CRIME Main Rittenhouse trial thread - NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS
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Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
If they don't have a decision today, I suspect he'll let them think about it over the weekend. Nobody, including the judge, wants to throw this thing out, and have the streets explode needlessly on a Friday afternoon. Often, if a jury whines at a judge that they are "hung" he'll give them a good lecture, and send them back for more time to think about it. Juries don't usually get to slide as "hung" all that easy.
I'm surprised the jury isn't sequestered...might have gotten them off the pot sooner, and also cut down on circus acts like MSNBC tried to pull the other day...but what do I know.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
Juries can deliberate for a long-time, even sometimes two or more weeks; sometimes the judge may send a "hung" jury back four or five times before giving up.
We just have to wait and see, at this point either a verdict will be very soon or they are going to go on over the weekend. Friday afternoon is usually when jurors want to go home (happened on the jury I was on) though the one woman saying: "I'm having a very important dinner party tonight and I simply can't be late" was really annoying - she kept repeating it.
We just have to wait and see, at this point either a verdict will be very soon or they are going to go on over the weekend. Friday afternoon is usually when jurors want to go home (happened on the jury I was on) though the one woman saying: "I'm having a very important dinner party tonight and I simply can't be late" was really annoying - she kept repeating it.
SouthernBreeze
Has No Life - Lives on TB
So, the jury could have all weekend to watch tv and read every news article they can find, before making up their minds? If that is where this is going, I hope the jury is sequestered.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
Nope, not if they follow the judge's orders - I was in a much less important or high profile trial but it was a civil case and there was some media reporting.
This was in the 1980s and we were instructed on the pain of jail not to watch TV, read newspapers, listen to the radio or talk to our family and neighbors about anything.
That said, in a situation like this I think the jury should be sequestered (and as far as I know they are not) because it is simply impossible these days to avoid hearing anything; the internet is everywhere, the news is sometimes streamed across the tops of banks and public buildings and many people have devices turned on streaming information that anyone can't help but hear.
I know they try to avoid full sequestering for an entire trial after what happened with the OJ Jury, but during deliberations, it is probably a good idea for high-profile cases like this.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
That'll make the "dinner-party" lady mad.
After all--what's more important--her dinner-party or the LIFE and FUTURE of a young man just starting out?
"Why, my dinner-party, of course!"
Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
If they follow their play book, they will blow the place up for the weekend....
Josie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
And it never had to be this way. If the full force of the law had come down on these ass clowns THE FIRST TIME and any repeat time after instead of giving them room "to vent", there would be no " peaceful protests". Whatever you allow encourages more of the same.
On another note, do you think ANYONE will take up arms in the future if they see this kid treated like this?
Nope and nope. I read somewhere that these thugs are recruited in prison. They are paid to create mayhem. Think a little further and wonder just who has the deep pockets to do this and who benefits. These clowns are tools.
Face it, there will be rioting no matter the outcome. A "Not guilty" verdict will bring about a "peaceful protest" complete with rioting and looting. They didn't get their way so now comes the temper tantrum. A "Guilty" verdict will bring rioting and looting to celebrate a win, just like a basketball championship does.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
The dinner party lady was on the jury I was on, but it also involved a young man and if he would get compensation (and how much) for something truly stupid the City and County of Denver did. The lawyers for the family made no suggestions as to what compensation should be given, at one point I threatened to look up the Code of Hammurabi in one of my archeology textbooks to see how many sheep a certain body part was worth - do the price of that many sheep in modern dollars, and provide that as the compensation.
Surprisingly no one else on the jury thought this was a good idea...lol (but it shows how frustrated we were).
You know, were I on a jury, I could read and listen to stories about the trial all day every day, and still make up my own mind based on trial evidence. I don't use the meeeeedia to tell me what to think.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
Yeah, but legally no one on a jury is supposed to do that, the judges give pretty strict orders about it on day one. I'm sure they have had to modify them somewhat in the days of internet media as in no Facebook, Twitter, maybe no e-mail, etc but the idea is the jury is only supposed to come to a verdict based on what is presented in court.
Of course, people are human, and the jury knows their bus was stalked and that there are people waiting outside, they probably got death threats on their phone and the like, but they are just supposed to report this to the bailiff or the judge.
There is a certain amount of playacting on all sides, at least from what I saw.
bw
Fringe Ranger
Yes. It would be best if the jury comes back with Not Guilty. But if they don't, he's got all he needs to kill the process here and now. Hope he has security.
bw
Fringe Ranger
Agree. They've got a hell of a lot invested in this jury. They don't want to discard all that time, blood and tears over a few hours of seeming stalemate. This judge is not in a rush and seems to be methodical and smart. He's going to move them along as best he can, and will be slow to give up on them.
I am surprised they were not sequestered for this trial. Both for personal safety and outside influence.
Hognutz
Has No Life - Lives on TB
You’re not a sheople…
Sicario
The Executor
That's why neither you nor I will ever be on a jury. Independent, critical thinkers need not apply.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
They really don't like Paramedics in that mix either.
Hogwrench
Senior Member
Jack prosbiac is on rekieta law and said that everyone is returning to courtroom. So might be.
end game
Veteran Member
Chamberlain, one of the attorneys on the stream said he didn't think the verdict was in because the jury ordered lunch and then one of the others said what you said. They pulled up the court feed and it was black (no feed) but just now came up with the seal.
Hogwrench
Senior Member
Families of dead are asked to go into court so looks like we got a verdict
any live streams?
I'll burn some data to watch this.
I'll burn some data to watch this.
end game
Veteran Member
Yep, beat me on that one.
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
jury is coming in
Sicario
The Executor
Would that be the same NG that could have prevented this whole thing if they had been asked to intervene?
end game
Veteran Member
Female attorney and Kyle just held hands for a moment, he looks scared.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
I think NG was referring to Not Guilty.