DEEP STATE Unless something dramatic is breaking soon I see Trump throwing in the sponge

wait-n-see

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Thank you for explaining, but most of us don't want right now, we have plans in place for either outcome.

It's not about right now, it's about how, I was asking what the path was, where the legal issues stood. So far not much has been presented and even Rush was talking about the big promises and then nothing being done.

Being strung along and then seeing failure hit you in the face would be a devastating blow to many conservatives. We made so much fun of the lib's crying and whining when Hillary lost, but I suspect you'll see plenty of that on our side too if Trump fails to pull it off.

I'm hoping every day that Trump pulls it off, there is no doubt the socialists engineered an election theft. But I have solid plans in place if it goes the other way too. One thing I learned in all my military years and during combat deployments, always have a different plan in case the plan goes wrong. It isn't defeatism, it is simply a second plan for success that employs different methods and thought processes. It is too difficult to make great plans when you are failing and realize you need to switch up, plan ahead and you'll probably pull ahead.

Conservatives are fracturing deeply, to ignore that it is true, is dangerous in it's own. Anyone who thinks differently is being attacked by their own, it's almost like living in a democrat neighborhood. Open discussion with an open mind will bring more to the table than pointing fingers and making accusations about what people are thinking.

Prepare yourself for a bumpy ride if this thing comes off the rails. All of those who are talking about guns and glory, I hope you never sleep at night with the dreams of a combat solider, it all sounds good until you live on a two way range, people you love and care about bleeding out on the battle field while hell on earth surrounds you. Even when you are winning a battle it doesn't feel like winning. I pray that we never again fight a war that is brother against brother, father against children and friends against friends. My wish would be that no one ever lives in the horrors of war again. Governments win wars, soldiers always lose. Jump up every morning and do 22 pushups, one for each warrior that takes his own life each and every day!

Actually I would bet most of, if not all of us, have plans for either outcome. As for Rush, last I heard he was not being invited to the sessions being held between Trump and his lawyers, nor Trump's allies meetings.

For me, I am keeping prayers and hopes, yes hopes, up to Trump's 2nd term and the correction of many of the other stolen races from this election. I don't expect it to be realistically attempted without involving the US Supreme Court as it needs to be a decision not constrained with several state boundaries, it needs to be across the complete country where fraud occurred. And it will take time, so I knew it could be even till Jan 20 before something can be finalized, at least for the presidential office. Other races cold take longer to correct in this scenario.

Now, on the other hand if fate rules that the communist will take over ..... then what is my plan? Well .....continue my life as it is now and learn to live under a socialist government as I believe the vast majority of the population will do. Living in Texas will protect me from some of the SJW crap coming down the pike.

I don't believe there will be CW2 or guerilla CW2, nor will the country balkanize.

Instead, this country will sadly morph into a socialist agenda life which we would be stuck with for some time due to crooked politicians and hoax elections.

I'm a vet as well (8 years in all), but not a wartime one, so I'm fully aware of that side of the equation.
 
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wvstuck

Only worry about what you can control!
Actually I would bet most of, if not all of us, have plans for either outcome. As for Rush, last I heard he was not being invited to the sessions being held between Trump and his lawyers, nor Trump's allies meetings.

For me, I am keeping prayers and hopes, yes hopes, up to Trump's 2nd term and the correction of many of the other stolen races from this election. I don't expect it to be realistically attempted without involving the US Supreme Court as it needs to be a decision not constrained with several state boundaries, it needs to be across the complete country where fraud occurred. And it will take time, so I knew it could be even till Jan 20 before something can be finalized, at least for the presidential office. Other races cold take longer to correct in this scenario.

Now, on the other hand if fate rules that the communist will take over ..... then what is my plan? Well .....continue my life as it is now and learn to live under a socialist government as I believe the vast majority of the population will do. Living in Texas will protect me from some of the SJW crap coming down the pike.

I don't believe there will be CW2 or guerilla CW2, nor will the country balkanize.

Instead, this country will sadly morph into a socialist agenda life which we would be stuck with for some time due to crooked politicians and hoax elections.

I'm a vet as well (8 years in all), but not a wartime one, so I'm fully aware of that side of the equation.
Thank you for your service! You're always welcome in my AO if the need arises!
 

The Cub

Behold, I am coming soon.
Its not looking good folks. I am not seeing shoes drop and people going into hiding. Yes servers were seized in Germany allegedly as smoking guns but nothing seems to be happening. Faint hints of lawsuits with no dramatic results. Thee certification of the election plodding on with no visible concessions for the good guys.

:shr: :shr: :shr: :shr: :shr: :shr: :shr:

Stay cool.

The Communists cheated every way imaginable. It took the Inventor of the Internet 37 days? to argue about pregnant chad in 1 State.

They have many that they are addressing....different State laws, crooked machines, crooked software (Hammer/Scorecard) officials on the take, foreign involvement, dead people voting, ballots with only Biden votes many of them in pristine shape never having been folded and the circle was perfectly filled in in each of them (lacking only the receipt from the copy shop); statistical analysis, obtaining sworn affidavits by an attorney with the aid of typists and notary publics, GOP being denied the opportunity to adequately monitor, workers being instructed by superiors to commit fraud, ballots with no signatures, ballots in which signatures do not match, flash drives that were not secured, ballots being run through multiple times, people voting in multiple States, destruction of certifying envelopes, etc......AND they have millions of the foregoing.

They will satisfy the requirement of a 'preponderance of evidence', and at a minimum an honest judge will order discovery.....I think that the population of ballots has been so tainted, that the only option is the 12th Amendment....WITHOUT BIDEN HARRIS BEING ON THE BALLOT AS THEY WILL BE INCARCERATED.

PS: They waltzed right into his EO trap.

Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption, Issued on: December 21, 2017
[Key provision is the designation of a “national emergency”, thus allowing Trump to employ the US Military in civilian affairs; including not only riot suppression, but arrests and prosecution of Black Hats via Military Tribunals and the UCMJ avoiding the corrupt civilian courts.]
www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election
Issued on: September 12, 2018

www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/

Presidential Executive Order on Protecting America Through Lawful Detention of Terrorists, Issued on: January 30, 2018
[Keeping U.S. Naval Station at Guantánamo Bay open, and later designating $500MM from the Budget to rebuild it.]
Presidential Executive Order on Protecting America Through Lawful Detention of Terrorists | The White House
 

ShyGirl

Veteran Member
Sheesh, I think I may take a break from all this drama and breathless doomism. Geez, who would have thought Doomer Doug would turn
out to be the patient one. :lkick: :vik:
I stopped watching the whore media, in fact I stopped watching tv at all
Ncis new orleans had a black lives matter show as were all of the cbs monday shows.
It is all lies. Move in the Spirit like I do and WAIT ON GOD.
This is a great time of year for the Christmas movies on Hallmark channel, with a box of wine.
We have to keep our cool and present a united front. Don't let the fretters and whinners get you down. I think many of these posts are disinformation meant to tear us apart. Remember they are still fighting a war while we are sitting here worrying.
 
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intowolves

Veteran Member
So why is the Trump legal team distancing themselves from Sidney Powell? Is Trumps legal team the problem or Sidney Powell?
combination of both. Trump has a track record of hiring bad political advisers. No reason to think his choice of hiring lawyers is any different......SADLY
I think sidney pow is alice in wonderland and is having trouble finding the right rabbit hole
 

somewherepress

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This whole idea that Trump has a play in 4D chess up his sleeve to play yet reminds me in WW2 when the German people where being closed in by Patton and the Allies in the West and Stalin's red army in the East and those people loyal to the Reich kept saying don't worry the Fruher has some super weapons ready to use against the enemy just when things look bleak and it will give us victory................

Somehow, I don't see any special play coming out of this for the Trump loyals.....................like the Germans in WW 2 I think its hope without substance............

You may want to consider this important and substantial report before counting out Trump.

"We further find that if these updates were only more extreme than 99% of all updates nationally in terms of their deviation from this generally-observed pattern, that, holding all else equal, Joe Biden may very well have lost the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia, and that he would have 42 fewer Electoral votes — putting Biden below the number required to win the Presidency. Either way, it is indisputable that his margin of victory in these three states relies on four most anomalous vote updates identified by the metric developed in this report. "

"It is our belief that the extraordinarily anomalous nature of the studied vote updates here, combined with the staggering political implications, demands immediate and thorough investigation. "

 
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PghPanther

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You may want to consider this important and substantial report before counting out Trump.

"We further find that if these updates were only more extreme than 99% of all updates nationally in terms of their deviation from this generally-observed pattern, that, holding all else equal, Joe Biden may very well have lost the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia, and that he would have 42 fewer Electoral votes — putting Biden below the number required to win the Presidency. Either way, it is indisputable that his margin of victory in these three states relies on four most anomalous vote updates identified by the metric developed in this report. "

"It is our belief that the extraordinarily anomalous nature of the studied vote updates here, combined with the staggering political implications, demands immediate and thorough investigation. "


I'd sure like to see something like this come through...............I just wonder how much the powers to be will try to PR all this away claiming trump is a megalomaniac through the media........they've already done a gone job already trying to push him aside..................look how they ruined Ross Perot's efforts......
 

somewherepress

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I'd sure like to see something like this come through...............I just wonder how much the powers to be will try to PR all this away claiming trump is a megalomaniac through the media........they've already done a gone job already trying to push him aside..................look how they ruined Ross Perot's efforts......
I agree completely They will undoubtedly attempt to bury this report and any other info that doesn't fit their narrative. But it isn't time to give up hope to recover the election.
 

Meadowlark

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Actually I would bet most of, if not all of us, have plans for either outcome. As for Rush, last I heard he was not being invited to the sessions being held between Trump and his lawyers, nor Trump's allies meetings.

For me, I am keeping prayers and hopes, yes hopes, up to Trump's 2nd term and the correction of many of the other stolen races from this election. I don't expect it to be realistically attempted without involving the US Supreme Court as it needs to be a decision not constrained with several state boundaries, it needs to be across the complete country where fraud occurred. And it will take time, so I knew it could be even till Jan 20 before something can be finalized, at least for the presidential office. Other races cold take longer to correct in this scenario.

Now, on the other hand if fate rules that the communist will take over ..... then what is my plan? Well .....continue my life as it is now and learn to live under a socialist government as I believe the vast majority of the population will do. Living in Texas will protect me from some of the SJW crap coming down the pike.

I don't believe there will be CW2 or guerilla CW2, nor will the country balkanize.

Instead, this country will sadly morph into a socialist agenda life which we would be stuck with for some time due to crooked politicians and hoax elections.

I'm a vet as well (8 years in all), but not a wartime one, so I'm fully aware of that side of the equation.
After four years of Trump, too many people have seen what life without encroaching socialism looks like and learned to enjoy it to simply drink the koolaid and go back to sleep.
 

etdeb

Veteran Member
If any of you haven't done so you really should watch "Trump Card". It's available on Amazon Prime and You Tube as well as other outlets. Well worth your time and an in depth look at what we are up against.
I watched it before election day and could see it play out just
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Bayou Renaissance Man: What electoral fraud? THIS electoral fraud!

Wednesday, November 25, 2020
What electoral fraud? THIS electoral fraud!


Two very interesting analyses - one statistical, one technical - have surfaced over the past couple of days. I think they show beyond reasonable doubt the extent of the electoral fraud that was perpetrated in the 2020 Presidential elections. I submit that the onus is now on those who say the election was legitimate to disprove these analyses - and I think that's going to be very, very difficult. If President Trump's legal team can arrange to get this sort of information before the Supreme Court, I can't see how SCOTUS can do otherwise but invalidate the results of the elections in at least the states discussed in these documents.
The first report is from a SubStack account calling itself "Vote Pattern Analysis". I don't know who's behind it, but it provides exhaustive detail about the raw data used and how they were analyzed - sufficient for any statistician to check and/or reproduce its findings. Here's a key excerpt. Bold print is emphasis in the original.


Our analysis finds that a few key vote updates in competitive states were unusually large in size and had an unusually high Biden-to-Trump ratio. We demonstrate the results differ enough from expected results to be cause for concern.
. . .

The four vote updates in question are:


  1. An update in Michigan listed as of 6:31AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 141,258 votes for Joe Biden and 5,968 votes for Donald Trump.
  2. An update in Wisconsin listed as 3:42AM Central Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 143,379 votes for Joe Biden and 25,163 votes for Donald Trump.
  3. A vote update in Georgia listed at 1:34AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 136,155 votes for Joe Biden and 29,115 votes for Donald Trump.
  4. An update in Michigan listed as of 3:50AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 54,497 votes for Joe Biden and 4,718 votes for Donald Trump.

This report predicts what these vote updates would have looked like, had they followed the same pattern as the vast majority of the 8,950 others. We find that the extents of the respective anomalies here are more than the margin of victory in all three states — Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia — which collectively represent forty-two electoral votes.


Go read the study in full for yourself.

The second analysis comes from a sworn affidavit by Russell James Ramsland Jr., who describes himself as "part of the management team of Allied Security Operations Group, LLC (ASOG)." The company has been involved in detailed analysis of the Dominion vote tabulation software used in over 30 states during the recent elections.

Mr. Ramsland's evaluation is damning in a number of respects. The online file has been set up so I can't directly copy text, but I can screenshot excerpts from it. Here are three. I urge you to read the affidavit in full to put them in context.







How anyone can read those two analyses and still claim, with a straight face, that no electoral fraud took place during the 2020 Presidential election, I absolutely do not understand.

Joe Biden was not elected President of the United States. The vote totals were manipulated to give that impression - but it's false. I can only hope and pray that the truth is recognized and enforced by the United States Supreme Court before it's too late.

Of course, if it does reach that high, then the possibilities for criminal investigation and charges become much greater. Don't forget that Rudy Giuliani, heading President Trump's legal team, was a US Attorney during the 1980's, and spearheaded the assault on the Mafia in New York City. He was instrumental in using the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act against organized crime. Look at what he said at a news conference last week. (Bold, underlined text is my emphasis.)


... what emerged very quickly is it’s not a single voter fraud in one state. This pattern repeats itself in a number of states. Almost exactly the same pattern, which to any experienced investigator, prosecutor would suggest that there was a plan from a centralized place to execute these various acts of voter fraud, specifically focused on big cities and specifically focused on, as you would imagine, big cities controlled by Democrats, and particularly focused on big cities that have a long history of corruption. The number of voter fraud cases in Philadelphia could fill a library. Just a few weeks ago, there was a conviction for voter fraud and one two weeks before that. And I’ve often said, I guess, sarcastically, but it’s true, the only surprise I would have found in this is that Philadelphia hadn’t cheated in this election, because, for the last 60 years, they’ve cheated in just about every single election. You could say the same thing about Detroit.
Each one of these cities are cities that are controlled by Democrats, which means they can get away with anything they want to do. It means they have a certain degree of control over… certainly control the election board completely. And they control law enforcement. And unfortunately, they have some friendly judges that will issue ridiculously irrational opinions just to come out in their favor.


Does that sound to you like a lawyer who's thinking hard about applying RICO's provisions to those responsible for electoral fraud? It sure does to me!

Pass the popcorn, please . . .

Peter


Posted by Peter at 11/25/2020 09:05:00 AM
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
After four years of Trump, too many people have seen what life without encroaching socialism looks like and learned to enjoy it to simply drink the koolaid and go back to sleep.

Won't matter how many people don't like it if the communistic soulless bastards take the WH. They will have the power of the government and "law" behind them:
  • There will be no more valid elections as in that case they will be able to implement the fraud voting system into the rest of the country.
  • Talk of Trump being elected in 2024 or any actual conservative being elected is a pipe dream as it will all be uniparty approved.
  • They don't even need our active participation in voting as they will just make up the numbers they see fit and the propaganda slaves will regurgitate that on demand.
  • The traitors will control all means of communications so any though of using electronic methods to organize any type of a resistance are a pipe dream as that will be censored as it is in Mainland China, who are their masters.
  • As that recent video of 8 cops taking down a single guy for curfew violation shows, there will be plenty of willing drones to enforce the dictates of the new masters.
However, I don't believe this will happen due to various reasons outlined on this board about the amount of fraud and fully expect Trump to win his 2nd term, with the result that something will be done to rid the voting system of the communistic soulless bastards and their instruments of fraud for good.

TRUMP 2020! :wvflg:
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
The globalist plans (Great Reset) go far beyond the fate of any one nation or leader. If DJT does not hold the White House in 2020, then any hope for the ZUSA surviving the globalist assault is fleeting. The fight is just beginning and will NOT be over with a Trump victory here and now. The Shire MUST be scoured, if Trump pulls out a success in this battle. There can be no half measures in that. The ZUSA must get its own house in order quickly and thoroughly now, or all that has happened before will be for naught.
 

Dozdoats

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Ace of Spades HQ (mu.nu)

The Morning Report - 11/25/20

Good morning, kids. Midweek and with the day before Thanksgiving upon us, the news seems to be getting more dispiriting and disheartening as time goes on. No, I'm not giving up hope that somehow Trump will prevail, but the direct political descendants of those who unleashed Kolyma, Birkenau and the Killing Fields are in the ascendancy right here regardless of who is sworn in this coming January 20th. We dodged a bullet to the neck and a tumble into the figurative (and perhaps literal) mass grave four years ago, and had history repeated itself, as it most certainly was going to until a water main break in an Atlanta basement somehow caused six states to vault Polident-Elect Biden into the lead, it only would have bought us maybe four more years of a reprieve. No doubt with double the impeachment hearings, double the foney-Phlu lockdowns and worst of all, double the duplicitousness of an alleged opposition party that is completely dead to me, but a reprieve nonetheless.

Let's face reality; Sinclair Lewis' It Can't Happen Here has happened here. America as founded, as we had imagined or perhaps deluded ourselves into thinking it was, was snuffed out on November 3rd. We can thank President Trump for that, and I'm not at all being sarcastic. In fact, it's probably the greatest achievement of his presidency. By being an outsider and refusing to be subsumed by a sea of corruption and criminality whose purpose was - is - the generational enterprise of dismantling this country and our society and delivering its corpse to a Globalist cabal with Communist China on top, he forced its agents to reveal themselves for who and what they are to a heretofore mostly unaware citizenry. The domestic and foreign policies that he was able to enact, with virtually zero help if not resistance from the late GOP, not only were triumphs but served to underscore what complete and disastrous failures the self-proclaimed Ivy League, Skull and Bones, internationalist "elites" had been strangling us with since the end of the Second World War. And he rubbed their faces in it on Twitter with exclamation points.

Yes, we are not just in a post-Constitutional America but we are on the verge of being in a post-America America. The question therefore is, Trump or no Trump, what are we going to do about it? With virtually every political, legal, academic and cultural institution now thoroughly corrupted, there's nowhere to turn. And as was made abundantly clear three weeks ago, we're not voting our way out of this. I'm sorry if I'm being depressive, especially on the eve of a day when we traditionally give thanks to G-d for both the blessings of our table and for the ability to live in freedom. Well, now that's all shot to hell, isn't it?

As Thomas Paine wrote, "THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.


Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.

What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated."


And finally, I'll leave you with Psalm 121: "I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help. My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth."

Stay strong, have faith and never give up hope. We're still here.
 

INVAR

Sword At-The-Ready
Yes, we are not just in a post-Constitutional America but we are on the verge of being in a post-America America. The question therefore is, Trump or no Trump, what are we going to do about it? With virtually every political, legal, academic and cultural institution now thoroughly corrupted, there's nowhere to turn. And as was made abundantly clear three weeks ago, we're not voting our way out of this.

And yet so many refuse to see this truth or accept it.

Bewilderment is going to be fatal to them and they will be of no use in resisting what comes next.
 

AlfaMan

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Why am I not surprised to find that Mrs. Alfaman just don't play? OTOH, I bet she's really, really worth it.

She is worth it. She's my buddy, my lover, my everything. And she puts up with me, that confers upon her sainthood as far as I'm concerned. And she for sure! don't play.
 

teneo

Always looking for details I may have missed.
After listening to Trump at the Pennsylvania hearing just now, I'd say he's not going to quit and neither will I. I truly hope this happens as peacefully as possible but those Marxists can be hard-headed.
 

NoDandy

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At my age, I do not fear for myself.

What I fear for is the future of our nation, and the future of my children, and grandchildren !!!

Damn all the commiecrats, and damn all the collaborating Rinos !!!!!!!!!

May they all burn in hell, forever & ever !!!!!
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
I truly hope this happens as peacefully as possible but those Marxists can be hard-headed.

While hope for peace is a wonderful sentiment, in the current situation I think it is forlorn.

“You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.”

― Robert A. Heinlein Quote by Robert A. Heinlein: “You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Do...” (goodreads.com)

I usually resize the text and undo the bolding in pastes like the above, but I am leaving this one on purpose. We are literally right up against it, as I see it. There will be a fight. We must win it when it comes. We must do the heavy lifting to scour all traces of the evils of communism out of our system or we will have no relief.

WE must do this. ALL of us. This is not a job for DJT alone, though he will of necessity be in the lead.
 
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