Burrito
Veteran Member
No, that's really good news. It's back to normal now.
DISASTER China's Three Gorge Dam in Danger
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Samuel Adams
Has No Life - Lives on TB
The official level is down and official input flow from last flood is down.
The floods from upstream are not static nor is the amount of discharge required. The important cities are downstream and if they can reduce flooding downstream they will.
As to the camera’s, the last front view seemed to be showing large cracks on the left hand section. From the size of the structure cracks if visible and true image would be large indeed. The pressure is being generated from the back side but any failure or structural issues will show or happen on the front side.
I have to wonder how sealed is the electrical generation and transmission equipment. Cracks that allow water to enter area’s of power generation and transmission is no fun.
Oh and isn’t there another super typhoon headed to China, maybe the path will head to northern China and give Yangtze a break and just destroy China’s wheat and corn crops.
The floods from upstream are not static nor is the amount of discharge required. The important cities are downstream and if they can reduce flooding downstream they will.
As to the camera’s, the last front view seemed to be showing large cracks on the left hand section. From the size of the structure cracks if visible and true image would be large indeed. The pressure is being generated from the back side but any failure or structural issues will show or happen on the front side.
I have to wonder how sealed is the electrical generation and transmission equipment. Cracks that allow water to enter area’s of power generation and transmission is no fun.
Oh and isn’t there another super typhoon headed to China, maybe the path will head to northern China and give Yangtze a break and just destroy China’s wheat and corn crops.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
See the SATELLITE PICTURE in post # 2026.
If the water has "partially submerged" the cranes---which are on TOP OF the dam---
Then---no, that is not good news.
That is VERY bad news.
The gates could have been shut because to keep them open would so destabilize the dam -- due to its being undermined below---that it could cause failure.
As per the idea that by some miracle all the water upstream has miraculously VANISHED----so that they can handle it by normal power-generation through the power houses---you need to go back and look at posts 2011, 2014, 2023, and 2024.
All that water just suddenly evaporated before it got to 3GD, huh?
Finally--they NEVER close down the live-stream unless something bad is happening.
Last time they did it was right after everyone noted increasing levels of brown water (indicating earth being dug up and discharged from under the dam) and what appeared to be sizable rocks being ejected through the flood gates.
Next thing ya know, the feed goes down for a long time, and when it comes up--voila! Suddenly instead of a close-up view we have a WAAAAAYYY far-back long-shot view, very zoomed out, so you can't reliably even gauge the amount of water flow coming out or see how many gates are open, much less see if any of the bedrock under-pinning the dam is being vomited out. Plus--the timestamp--which I had noted up to then had been EXACTLY in sync with my local Daylight Savings Time (except China's was 12 hours ahead)---was now ONE MINUTE BEHIND actual time.
Gives the CCP one full minute to scream "cut the video!" if anything happens.....
bw
Fringe Ranger
The only way to submerge what's on top of the dam is for water to be coming over the dam. And you'd see that in the outflow, because water would be coming down the downstream side, and the whitewater and turbulence would be unmistakeable. You can't see any such thing. The cranes on top of the dam are not getting their feet wet. The picture APPEARS to show water around cranes UNDER the dam, at the power houses, which suggests water is backing up from downriver.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Well, two weird things this morning.
If I go to the 3GD website (Three Gorges Dam Stream (side angle)) and click on the "SIDE" view---
the video is still stuck, at the same time as last night, at 09/05/2020 at 2:29;03 (AM, China time)
And--the floodgates are STILL showing SHUT, on this frozen-frame picture, which confirms the earlier posts # 2026 and 2027 that the floodgates are SHUT.
BUT---if you turn on the SOUND--
You will hear the SAME LOUD RUSHING NOISE OF WATER FLOWING THROUGH THE FLOODGATES as we have all heard for months.
Plus, I noticed at regular intervals the sounds seemed to "glitch"---like a repeating tape. I timed it, and this occurs at 50-second intervals.
So then, I went to look at the Spillway Angle View--which is NOT frozen, and which shows a current time of 22:28:04 as of this writing (which conforms to my timezone's current time, 12 hours behind China's, of 10:28 am.)
On that view, the gates are clearly SHUT---again, confirming the satellite pictures in the posts I cited above.
PLUS, you do NOT year the LOUD SOUND of any rushing water. Of course, the Spillway microphone is apparently UNDERWATER, based on the sounds, but it is NOT as loud as it was when the gates were open.
SO WILL ALL THE FOLKS WHO KEEP TELLING US CHINA'S ENGINEERS HAVE EVERYTHING WELL IN HAND PLEASE EXPLAIN:
1. The Satellite and frozen Side View live cam showing ALL FLOODGATES CLOSED---yet the (repeating?) SOUND TAPE is that of LOUD ROARING WATER THROUGH THE FLOODGATES???
2. The frozen Side Angle camera itself--now frozen over 8 hours? (bear in mind, last time the CCP shut down the Side View cam, it was after 3GD was visibly throwing rocks, and when they brought it back up it was a different angle and distance which made close observation of the dam much harder)
3. WHY THE CCP WOULD BE PLAYING A REPEATING SOUND TAPE OF LOUD RUSHING WATER THROUGH THE FLOODGATES--WHEN THE FLOODGATES ARE CLOSED????
We should all already know--from past history as well as watching the Damocrat Communists in our own country--that anyone who believes anything Communists tell them, is a fool.
If I go to the 3GD website (Three Gorges Dam Stream (side angle)) and click on the "SIDE" view---
the video is still stuck, at the same time as last night, at 09/05/2020 at 2:29;03 (AM, China time)
And--the floodgates are STILL showing SHUT, on this frozen-frame picture, which confirms the earlier posts # 2026 and 2027 that the floodgates are SHUT.
BUT---if you turn on the SOUND--
You will hear the SAME LOUD RUSHING NOISE OF WATER FLOWING THROUGH THE FLOODGATES as we have all heard for months.
Plus, I noticed at regular intervals the sounds seemed to "glitch"---like a repeating tape. I timed it, and this occurs at 50-second intervals.
So then, I went to look at the Spillway Angle View--which is NOT frozen, and which shows a current time of 22:28:04 as of this writing (which conforms to my timezone's current time, 12 hours behind China's, of 10:28 am.)
On that view, the gates are clearly SHUT---again, confirming the satellite pictures in the posts I cited above.
PLUS, you do NOT year the LOUD SOUND of any rushing water. Of course, the Spillway microphone is apparently UNDERWATER, based on the sounds, but it is NOT as loud as it was when the gates were open.
SO WILL ALL THE FOLKS WHO KEEP TELLING US CHINA'S ENGINEERS HAVE EVERYTHING WELL IN HAND PLEASE EXPLAIN:
1. The Satellite and frozen Side View live cam showing ALL FLOODGATES CLOSED---yet the (repeating?) SOUND TAPE is that of LOUD ROARING WATER THROUGH THE FLOODGATES???
2. The frozen Side Angle camera itself--now frozen over 8 hours? (bear in mind, last time the CCP shut down the Side View cam, it was after 3GD was visibly throwing rocks, and when they brought it back up it was a different angle and distance which made close observation of the dam much harder)
3. WHY THE CCP WOULD BE PLAYING A REPEATING SOUND TAPE OF LOUD RUSHING WATER THROUGH THE FLOODGATES--WHEN THE FLOODGATES ARE CLOSED????
We should all already know--from past history as well as watching the Damocrat Communists in our own country--that anyone who believes anything Communists tell them, is a fool.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Trivium Pursuit
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Anonymous IDwDVsrbL Wed 02 Sep 2020 19:16:58 No.275687792 Report
Quoted By: >>275688297
>>275687346
Is "accountability" coming?
At present, with high-level "recognition" and the continued drought this year, there is a wave of "accountability" reviewing the Three Gorges Dam from demonstration and approval to completion at home and abroad.
Wang Weiluo, a scholar living in Germany,
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
LucyT said:
Anonymous ID
Quoted By: >>275688297
>>275687346
Is "accountability" coming?
At present, with high-level "recognition" and the continued drought this year, there is a wave of "accountability" reviewing the Three Gorges Dam from demonstration and approval to completion at home and abroad.
Wang Weiluo, a scholar living in Germany,
Wait--let me get this straight---
We're seeing with our own eyes videos of a 100-year (some say a 1000-year) FLOOD---
and the CCP is saying China is having "the continued drought this year"?????
And some here are blithely believing what the CCP is putting out and telling us all is well?????
bw
Fringe Ranger
If the cranes on top of the dam were partially submerged, the water wouldn't stop at the crane feet, but would go on over the edge. So you'd see a frozen image of sheets of water cascading over the dam along with your frozen image of dam-top cranes partly under water. It's not there.
China is a huge land mass.
I can see a drought in one area and floods in another.
It happens in the US frequently.
just about anything could really be going on.
The Snack Artist
Membership Revoked
This thing could already be washed away for all we know. Splody dam.
"Ford's in His Fliver, and All's Right With The World..."
Bright Blessings,
OldArcher, Witch
Melodi
Disaster Cat
My understanding is that one part of China that grows a lot of their crops is having a drought and the other area, which grows most of the rest of the crops has been flooded - that is not a good thing.
I think the dam is anyone's guess at this point, if it is still standing in January it will probably stay standing unless or until it fails from hidden damage done during the floods; but that could be tomorrow or ten years from now.
It isn't a good sign if they have frozen or stopped the videos...
I think the dam is anyone's guess at this point, if it is still standing in January it will probably stay standing unless or until it fails from hidden damage done during the floods; but that could be tomorrow or ten years from now.
It isn't a good sign if they have frozen or stopped the videos...
xtreme_right
Veteran Member
THREE GORGES DAM POTENTIAL COLLAPSE - UNCONTROLLED DISCHARGES UNDER THE DAM
RT 12:29
View: https://youtu.be/cBSusXvBDF4
RT 12:29
Burrito
Veteran Member
Countrymouse.....You seriously need to unwind and walk away from the keyboard. Just because you see something on the internet (even a video) doesn't mean it is true.
With the size of this dam, there is no hiding a collapse. Most of the "google image shows" posts are pure bs. We normal folks don't have the money required to get live satellite images and companies that own sats that have those views don't give that access out for free much less without gov. approval.
DragonBurrow
Contributing Member
Posting image for LucyT:
Looking at the live dam feeds tonight, for the moment we have them, I think the cranes with wet feet is referring to the front side cranes. At the power plant there are smaller gate cranes. I think we may have missed them prior because the gate discharge obscured the view.
DragonBurrow
Contributing Member
Burrito: I appreciate your interest in what is happening and a different viewpoint is always appreciated.
Countrymouse has put a lot of energy and time into becoming informed and familiar with this topic.
If you read the thread there are several ways for this process to begin in slow subtle ways. Until it’s not. That is what those of us following along are trying to learn about and exchange ideas on. After all even the force of nature can only eat an elephant one bite at a time.
DragonBurrow
Contributing Member
bw
Fringe Ranger
Burrito's advice to Countrymouse is valid.
Those cranes are in a lower section much lower than the cranes on the top that are visible from most of the front side images, these have probably been submerged a bunch of times in the last 2 month's because of the height of the water on the discharge side because of the flooding.Posting image for LucyT:
They likely never expected the water on the discharge side to rise to that height. Kind of the best laid plans going awry.
coalcracker
Veteran Member
I'm thinking a tomahawk missile would cause a big splash...
China better no kicky sand in the eyes of other nations in the global sandbox.
War is a Pandora's Box. It's always best to avoid it if possible.
China better no kicky sand in the eyes of other nations in the global sandbox.
War is a Pandora's Box. It's always best to avoid it if possible.
From some of the photos I have seen of this dam if or when the water got high enough it will not spill over the top most see in the photos, but the dam has ports like scuppers on a boat built into it below the visible top of the dam and the water will spill of threw these ports and down the backside.
Once it gets to that point they have no control over how much water go's down stream and if the dam will hold up to that is unknown as it has never happened before.
Once it gets to that point they have no control over how much water go's down stream and if the dam will hold up to that is unknown as it has never happened before.
cyberiot
Rimtas žmogus
You are correct that "just because you see something on the internet . . . doesn't mean it is true." But it is also important to remember, especially in this case, that the spin is part of the story. The CCP reliably lipsticks its pigs, obfuscates, and outright lies when events don't fit the official narrative. Tech glitches of the nature Countrymouse and others here have learned to recognize are evidence of that behavior.
Paul Furber
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@paul_furber
Not 100% sure that this is our man taking a break from gold panning to give us an update but a few of us think it might be. "What is coming for China will make the Khmer Rouge experience in Cambodia look like a walk in the park." #BigDickAnon
Paul Furber
@paul_furber
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"Plague, cannibalism, the collapse of the three Gorges Dam.Millions of dead Chinese in the rivers floating from one city to another. The dead being fed on by maggots, fish and the birds and worms of the polluted rivers." #BigDickAnon
Paul Furber
@paul_furber
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1h
"And as starvation creeps in the Chinese themselves will be carting the dead off to eat to keep their children from starving. Xi will be hanged on National TV, and Taiwan will declare independence and be an American Ally. All before Christmas." #BigDickAnon
Paul Furber
@paul_furber
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1h
Takeways: - Nothing really new from him, just all in one post this time - his previous prediction was that the dam has until Sept 20. My personal opinion is that it will be collapsed on Friday because the Chinese financed 9/11 - retribution.
Not caring about getting flamed, I no longer put any stock in BDA. He's beginning to remind me of a hawker in a carnival show... Just enough to catch the imagination, to put down your money, to see what's inside the tent... Of course, the glimpses we've seen don't match the promises of the carny... But, HEY! It's all just good fun, isn't it?
QANON, however, has lots more grain than chaff, and doesn't mix religion for the desperate, to draw hungry crowds...
Bright Blessings,
OldArcher, Witch
QANON, however, has lots more grain than chaff, and doesn't mix religion for the desperate, to draw hungry crowds...
Bright Blessings,
OldArcher, Witch
Paul Furber
@paul_furber
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1h
Replying to
@paul_furber
Not 100% sure that this is our man taking a break from gold panning to give us an update but a few of us think it might be. "What is coming for China will make the Khmer Rouge experience in Cambodia look like a walk in the park." #BigDickAnon
Paul Furber
@paul_furber
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1h
"Plague, cannibalism, the collapse of the three Gorges Dam.Millions of dead Chinese in the rivers floating from one city to another. The dead being fed on by maggots, fish and the birds and worms of the polluted rivers." #BigDickAnon
Paul Furber
@paul_furber
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1h
"And as starvation creeps in the Chinese themselves will be carting the dead off to eat to keep their children from starving. Xi will be hanged on National TV, and Taiwan will declare independence and be an American Ally. All before Christmas." #BigDickAnon
Paul Furber
@paul_furber
·
1h
Takeways: - Nothing really new from him, just all in one post this time - his previous prediction was that the dam has until Sept 20. My personal opinion is that it will be collapsed on Friday because the Chinese financed 9/11 - retribution.
wow. all possible
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
I have no idea what you are talking about. I NEVER SAID any of the things you are (apparently) attributing to me above.
My last post mentioned the VIDEO being frozen--and that has NOTHING to DO with the earlier pictures of the cranes---THOSE were a GOOGLE EARTH capture, posted by a DIFFERENT member.
You know, if you're going to criticize me, you should at least actually READ My posts, to get straight WHAT you are criticizing.
I posted last--and am re-posting now (for anyone who wants to actually READ my post, and help me ANALYZE what MIGHT be going on)--several things that MAKE NO SENSE.
ONE---the video (v-i-d-e-o, folks--NOT the "still picture" of the cranes)--the V-I-D-E-O of the dam---appears to be FROZEN.
Now, as of right now, it is definitely showing a picture that bears NO relation to ACTUAL TIME right now in China.
See screen-shot attached below.
The picture looks like early dawn---but it's 1:46 AM here in GA, meaning 12 hours ahead of us, in China right now, it should be 1:46 PM.
AFTERNOON---not dawn.
TWO--the floodgates are STILL showing SHUT---NO WATER CASCADE CAN BE SEEN.
Leading to THREE_--WHY, then if the gates are SHUT---does the AUDIO have the LOUD, CONTINUOUS SOUND OF WATER ROARING---just exactly like we HEARD it roaring all the months they were letting out flow thru the floodgates?
Is ANYONE willing to stop having a "poke-fun fest" at me long enough to actually THINK through this---what it might mean?
WHY would they alter the video, so that the timestamps no longer match? (the side-angle view has to be HOURS off, because it has a timestamp of 12:32:04--but looks more like dawn or early evening, it's so dark. The Clock on this view, is STOPPED.
The time stamps on the SIDE angle and the SPILLWAY angle SHOULD match--but they do NOT.
The Spillway angle timestamp currently reads 13:51 and seconds--and the clock is RUNNING. But the picture is almost COMPLETELY dark.
Unless they're having an eclipse in China, it shouldn't be THAT dark at 1:51 pm in their AFTERNOON.
And again--I would REALLY like someone to tell me what's up with a loud AUDIO that has the sound we heard when all the floodgates were OPEN---when they are CLOSED and NO outflow can be "seen".
Any takers at actually addressing these questions?
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Would really like to hear a consdiered serious answer to these questions:
I would REALLY like someone to tell me what's up with a loud AUDIO that has the sound we heard when all the floodgates were OPEN---when they are CLOSED and NO outflow can be "seen".
Also, the time-stamps on the side-view and front-view don't match.
I would REALLY like someone to tell me what's up with a loud AUDIO that has the sound we heard when all the floodgates were OPEN---when they are CLOSED and NO outflow can be "seen".
Also, the time-stamps on the side-view and front-view don't match.
bw
Fringe Ranger
In post 2046 you said "If the water has "partially submerged" the cranes---which are on TOP OF the dam--- Then---no, that is not good news. That is VERY bad news."
And I replied in 2047 "The only way to submerge what's on top of the dam is for water to be coming over the dam. And you'd see that in the outflow, because water would be coming down the downstream side, and the whitewater and turbulence would be unmistakeable. You can't see any such thing. "
You tried to move the conversation to the question of whether it's a still shot or active video, but the my point remains the same. Go back and read the posts yourself, if you like.