CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

Mixin

Veteran Member
Since the bird flu days, I've wondered if mouth-breathers (allergy sufferers, etc) got more severe infections than nose-breathers. I've never found any discussion about it.

About gargling, my flubie friend and I had discussions about saltwater gargles. He didn't think the virus could attach in an area of the throat that would benefit from it. Apparently they do or scientists wouldn't be calling for research on mouthwashes.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
I think this is a very promising method to help, as I said in a previous post.
Hmmm! I thought I read somewhere that ingesting the virus does no harm. So I guess they are working on the theory that you might have a mouthful of virus from some source and you breathe it into your lungs?
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
Hmmm! I thought I read somewhere that ingesting the virus does no harm. So I guess they are working on the theory that you might have a mouthful of virus from some source and you breathe it into your lungs?
Not my thoughts, was thinking along the lines that the mouthwash may form an additional barrier to not passing on the virus from droplets in the mouth which may be neutralised by some kind of mouthwash.
 

inskanoot

Veteran Member
I posted about this a few days ago, here's more on the subject:


Scientists call for urgent research on potential for mouthwash to reduce SARS-CoV-2 transmission
14 May 2020

A group of scientists has called for urgent research into whether readily-available mouthwash could be effective in reducing SARS-CoV-2 transmission.

The group carried out a review of scientific research in this area, published today in the journal Function, to assess whether mouthwash could have the potential to reduce transmission in the early stages of infection.

The researchers from Cardiff University’s School of Medicine, along with the universities of Nottingham, Colorado, Ottawa, Barcelona and Cambridge’s Babraham Institute included virologists, lipid specialists, microbicide and healthcare experts, while industry partners provided global formulation information. The review was led by Professor Valerie O’Donnell who was made a Fellow of the Academy of Medical Sciences on Wednesday.

SARS-CoV-2 is an enveloped virus with an outer fatty (lipid) membrane - but the researchers said there had so far been “no discussion” about the potential role of damaging this membrane as a possible way to inactivate the virus in the throat.

It said previous studies had shown that agents commonly found in mouthwashes, such as low amounts of ethanol, povidone-iodine and cetylpyridinium, could disrupt the lipid membranes of several enveloped viruses. It is not yet known whether this could also be the case for this new coronavirus.

The researchers assessed existing mouthwash formulations for their potential ability to disrupt the SARS-CoV-2 lipid envelope - and suggested that several deserve clinical evaluation.

“We highlight that already published research on other enveloped viruses, including coronaviruses, directly supports the idea that further research is needed on whether oral rinsing could be considered as a potential way to reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2,” the authors said.

They said research to determine the potential of this approach could include evaluating existing - or specifically-tailored - formulations of mouthwash in the lab and then in clinical trials. Monitored population-based trials could be undertaken with appropriate commercially-available brands.

Lead author Professor O’Donnell, Co-Director of Cardiff University’s Systems Immunity Research Institute, said: “Safe use of mouthwash - as in gargling - has so far not been considered by public health bodies in the UK. In test tube experiments and limited clinical studies, some mouthwashes contain enough of known virucidal ingredients to effectively target lipids in similar enveloped viruses.

“What we don’t know yet is whether existing mouthwashes are active against the lipid membrane of SARS-CoV-2. Our review of the literature suggests that research is needed as a matter of urgency to determine its potential for use against this new virus.

“This is an under-researched area of major clinical need - and we hope that research projects will be quickly mobilised to further evaluate this.”

Professor O’Donnell added: “Mouthwash has not been tested against this new coronavirus yet. People should continue to follow the preventive measures issued by the UK government, including washing hands frequently and maintaining social distance. This study suggests further clinical studies could be worthwhile based on the theoretical evidence.”

Be careful with the mouthwash. It may be associated with higher susceptibility to mouth cancer.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Part 3 of 3
Would you be surprised if our Benevolent Benefactors heroically beat the deadline? Me too.

The Russiagate®, Ukrainegate®, and FISA Abuse® scandals were all just smoke and mirrors. They were like a murder mystery stage play held in a haunted house last Halloween. In truth, these Reality TV shows served as cover to what was actually going on behind the scenes. Even now, as headlines about Trump’s former National Security Advisor, Mike Flynn, and the presidential prescriptions of hydroxychloroquine take precedence over “two trailblazing COVID-19 researchers dead in a month”:








So when, then, does coincidence become conspiracy and correlation equal causation?

Would you be surprised either way? Me too.

What remains to be seen, however, is if The Cult has truly consolidated enough power and if more than enough people will have been awakened prior to the demise of their cellular communications and internet service.

In the end, however, no matter what happens, The Giant Vampire Squid Cult will only win the wind. They’re not near as smart as they think they are and they’re also realizing they haven’t fooled as many as they thought.

Regardless, the Cult is blinded by its own fear and survival instincts. With only one eye to see where it was going, it set its sight on the wrong destination. Like sand escaping through clenched fists, they failed to realize the best things in life are priceless.

Maybe their symbols will secure their demise after all. Until then, let their lies, tokens, and idols be smashed, at the very least, by online memes. Humor is a powerful force; and funny too.


Nevertheless, when considering recent judicial decisions in Texas and Wisconsin, it still appears the U.S. Constitution remains the most effective weapon in the people’s defense.

An encouraging example was found in Texas, recently, when a beauty salon owner named Shelley Luther was set free after making her stand against the “unconstitutional lockdown”:



Of course, the Benevolent Benefactors, and their minions, will continually express envy at China’s ability to lockdown their nation and “protect” their citizens slaves.

Here is what Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers had to say after his state’s supreme court overturned his recent unconstitutional Stay-at-Home® decree:


Wake up, America. Before it’s too late.
I hope this person gets the joys of getting it. Not bad enough to be o a vent. But one of the long drawn out cases where the writers can't walk to the mailbox without panting months later.

Because this level of denial stupidIty should hurt.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked

Feminist Theorist Wants to Use COVID-19 Crisis to 'Abolish the Family'
BY PAULA BOLYARD
MAY 07, 2020


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"The left has had the nuclear family in its sites for at least a century, blaming the God-ordained institution for every imaginable societal ill and, at various times over the years, waxing poetic about a utopian world without families. Most of the time they’ve merely flitted around the edges of destroying the nuclear family, but now, as the world is laboring under the weight of the coronavirus and mini-tyrants across the country are exulting in their newfound dictatorial powers, they’re not even trying to hide it anymore.



Sophie Lewis, a so-called feminist theorist who says she’s interested in “queer communism,” came right out and said it in an article published at openDemocracy: “In short, the pandemic is no time to forget about family abolition.” (Don’t bother clicking through to the article at that link. It’s a silly call for all of us to live in hippie communes.)

Lewis goes on to quote fellow traveler Madeline Lane-McKinley, who tweeted in March: “Households are capitalism’s pressure cookers. This crisis will see a surge in housework – cleaning, cooking, caretaking, but also child abuse, molestation, intimate partner rape, psychological torture, and more.” (In communes there’s no housework or something.)

Lewis’s thesis is basically that since we’ve been at home thanks to stay-at-home orders, it’s become crystal clear that the family needs to go.

“How can a zone defined by the power asymmetries of housework (reproductive labor being so gendered), of renting and mortgage debt, land and deed ownership, of patriarchal parenting and (often) the institution of marriage, benefit health?” she asks. “Such standard homes are where, after all, everyone secretly knows the majority of earthly violence goes down.” (These chicks really hate housework, don’t they.)

“Far from a time to acquiesce to ‘family values’ ideology, then, the pandemic is an acutely important time to provision, evacuate and generally empower survivors of – and refugees from – the nuclear household,” she opines.


Refugees? Yes, because China has reportedly seen a threefold increase in domestic violence “related to the Covid-19 epidemic.” She also quotes the CEO of a national domestic violence hotline in the U.S. who said, “Perpetrators are threatening to throw their victims out on the street so they get sick… We’ve heard of some withholding financial resources or medical assistance.”

Never mind that we are all living in a giant pressure-cooker right now and the nation’s stress levels are through the roof thanks to tyrannical governors who won’t let people earn a living. Also never mind that children in homes where the parents have chosen to cohabitate rather than get married or where there is no father present fare worse on nearly every indicator, even after controlling for factors like race, household income, and parental education.

Christians Beware: Biden Declares His #1 Priority Will Be the Anti-Christian LGBTQ ‘Equality Act’

The nuclear family is the problem and don’t you forget it. Housework too, we can’t forget that!

“We deserve better than the family,” Lewis declares. The coronavirus pandemic “is an excellent time to practice abolishing it,” she adds, echoing Obama wingman Rahm Emanuel who famously said, “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. I mean, it’s an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.” (Emanuel trotted that terrifying statement out again in a recent discussion about COVID-19.)


“We do not know yet if we will be able to wrench something better than capitalism from the wreckage of this Plague and the coming Depression,” says Lewis. “I would only posit with some certainty that, in 2020, the dialectic of families against the family, of real homes against the home, shall intensify.”

While it may seem unthinkable that the family could be abolished in any meaningful sense, if the last decade has taught us anything it’s that nothing is unthinkable. We are all witnesses to the ongoing denigration of marriage, the redefinition of the institution, and the rapid acceptance of any and every relationship as equivalent or even superior to the traditional nuclear family. While many of us warned a decade ago that the legalization of same-sex marriage would lead to a slippery slope that would bottom out at the acceptance of every bizarre proclivity imaginable (and were ridiculed for it), our worst fears have been realized in recent years. Now, thanks to moral revolutionaries like Lewis, we’re apparently incapable of even defining something as simple and immutable as male and female. Anyone who tries is branded a transphobe or worse by the anti-science left.

The traditional family is increasingly viewed as oppressive, a relic of the patriarchy that must be abolished to achieve a just (read: communist) society. What the American family will look like in another decade is anyone’s guess. No society in the history of civilization has ever experienced such a rapid, all-encompassing moral revolution. We’re all guinea pigs in an ongoing social experiment, the results of which will be rained down on our children and our children’s children.


God help us if people like Lewis ever get control of the levers of power."
 

joannita

Veteran Member

The Absurd (And Sometimes Creepy) Ways Businesses Are Enforcing Social-Distancing

Tue, 05/19/2020 - 16:25

Authored by Daisy Luther via The Organic Prepper blog,
2020 has been a disturbing year all the way around, what with a pandemic, fear of contagions, mandatory lockdowns, and economic devastation. We’ve had everything from a deadly virus to aliens to murder hornets. And just when you thought this year, couldn’t get any stranger, hang on to your halo.


Wait until you see some of the flabbergasting ways businesses are enforcing social distancing measures.

Mannequins, cardboard people, and sex dolls
Places that used to be bustling with human customers and spectators are now being populated with…mannequins, cardboard cut-outs, and sex dolls. It sounds like I’m making this up. I’m not.


Photo Credit: CNN

For example, Patrick O’Connell, the chef and proprietor of The Inn at Little Washington in Washington, Virginia, has teamed up with a local theater to dress mannequins in WW2 area finery to fill booths and make sure customers “maintain social distancing.”



I hate to be mean because I know the intentions are good. But sitting amongst a room full of mannequins sounds more like that episode of Bates Motel when Norman had dinner with the taxidermied corpse of his mother than like a comforting return to normalcy to me.

This isn’t a one-off, either.

Next on “Dining with Dummies,” Australian restaurant-goers can sit in a cafe with cardboard people, lulled by the buzz of taped conversations on the speakers.





I applaud the effort and the creativity, I really do. But is it just me or are these efforts to put fake humans in restaurants kind of creepy? I would much rather sit in a nearly empty restaurant than be surrounded by fake humans. If you’ll pardon the pop culture reference, anyone who has ever watched the show Supernatural knows what’s likely to happen next.

Then there are the sporting events.

Photo Credit: New York Times

A professional soccer league in South Korea made the befuddling choice to stud the bleachers with blow-up dolls holding up signs to cheer their teams along.



In Taiwan, a baseball game was played before a full stadium. The thing is, the stadium was full of cardboard cutouts and plastic mannequins holding signs. Oh, and a band of robot drummers.


Photo Credit: New York Times







I’m just going to present this without further commentary.

Then there are these ways to keep humans apart.
Bizarre social distancing methods don’t stop with the use of fake humans. Read on for the undignified methods other restaurants are keeping humans apart.

Photo Credit: USA Today
A restaurant in Ocean City, Maryland is putting patrons in individual “bumper boat” tables.


Oh good. You can walk around with your big, awkward bumper boat table. And who doesn’t want to stand the entire time they eat dinner or have a beer?

Heaven help you if there was some kind of attack or emergency and you needed to move quickly. I have a horrible mental image of a bunch of people in innertubes all trying to squeeze out of the exit at once.

If standing in a giant innertube for dinner isn’t your idea of fun, don’t despair. There are numerous other bizarre methods to have a socially distant dinner.
A restaurant in Schwerin, Germany is handing out pool noodle hats for their customers to don. That sentence just confused my editing software so much it had no suggestions for improving the clarity.



Photo Credit: Insider

But what if you don’t want to sit with fake humans, stand in an innertube, or wear a funny hat? Does that mean you can no longer go out to dinner?
Don’t despair.


Photo Credit: Reuters
A restaurant in Thailand has a cuddly approach to social distancing. Maison Saigon is using stuffed toys to keep diners company while they eat.
UMM; why not just remove chairs??????
 
Italy's coronavirus death numbers rise slightly as the country starts to reopen
From CNN's Richard Greene in London

The number of daily coronavirus deaths in Italy rose slightly Tuesday to 162, after four days of declining numbers, authorities said.

Italy has now recorded 32,169 Covid-19 deaths, the Italian Civil Protection Agency reported.

This comes as bars, restaurants, retail stores, hairdressers and museums reopened Monday in most Italian regions after nearly 10 weeks of lockdown.

Italy has the third largest number of deaths from the virus in the world, behind the United States and United Kingdom, according to a tally from Johns Hopkins University.

The total number of Covid-19 cases in Italy, including deaths and recoveries, is now over 226,000, according to the national agency.


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From yesterday. Looking to see how the numbers change in the coming weeks.

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Brazil sees record surge of coronavirus deaths and cases in one day
From CNN's Shasta Darlington in Sao Paulo


An aerial view of open graves amidst the coronavirus pandemic at Vila Formosa Cemetery on Monday, May 18, in Sao Paulo, Brazil. T

An aerial view of open graves amidst the coronavirus pandemic at Vila Formosa Cemetery on Monday, May 18, in Sao Paulo, Brazil. T Alexandre Schneider/Getty Images

Brazil recorded its highest number of coronavirus deaths and cases in one day, according to the country's Health Ministry Tuesday.

The numbers: From Monday to Tuesday, Brazil confirmed 1,179 more deaths, bringing the country's total to 17,971.
Brazil also recorded 17,408 more Covid-19 cases, bringing the country's total to 271,628.

The increase in cases and deaths are both the highest jump in numbers in a day for Brazil since it confirmed its first case in February.

Sao Paulo state alone reported a record number of deaths on Tuesday, with 324 deaths in the last 24 hours.

Yesterday, Brazil became the country with the third highest number of coronavirus cases in the world, behind the US and Russia.

President Trump said today he is considering a travel ban on Latin America, and Brazil in particular.

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Children with suspected Covid-related syndrome need immediate attention, doctors say
From CNN's Maggie Fox

Kids who may have multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children, or MIS-C, a troubling complication of Covid-19 infection, need immediate attention and will probably need to be hospitalized, doctors said Tuesday.

It's becoming clear that many of the children with the new syndrome have damage to their hearts and need immediate treatment, the doctors said during a meeting organized by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The doctors said they believe it's increasingly clear that Covid-19 is involved, even though many of the children test negative for the virus at first and never seemed to have had symptoms of infection.

What we know: The syndrome appears to develop two to six weeks after infection with Covid-19 and affects mostly children who were perfectly healthy beforehand.

Symptoms do not look like the classic symptoms of coronavirus and may mostly include stomach pain and vomiting, along with fever and perhaps a rash, the experts said.

The CDC issued a health alert last week warning pediatricians to be on the lookout, and at least 20 states plus Washington, DC have reported they are investigating possible cases.


Kids with suspected Covid-related syndrome need immediate attention, doctors say
RELATEDKids with suspected Covid-related syndrome need immediate attention, doctors say

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joannita

Veteran Member
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has updated its guidelines to stress that the coronavirus "does not spread easily" on contaminated surfaces.


Yahoo News noted the updates on Tuesday and said health officials had previously warned, “The virus could be transmitted through infected respiratory droplets and by touching infected surfaces and then touching your nose, mouth, and possibly your eyes.” The CDC guidelines now say, "The virus spreads easily between people" but not "from touching surfaces or objects," "from animals to people," or "from people to animals."

The change comes after a German virologist leading the response to the country’s worst-hit areas said in April that he hadn't found evidence the virus could live on surfaces. Dr. Hendrik Streeck reported that a team investigated the home of an infected family and found that it "did not have any live virus on any surface." He told German TV, "There are no proven infections while shopping or at the hairdresser.”

"The virus spreads in other places: the party in Ischgl, the club in Berlin, the football game in Bergamo," he said. "We know it's not a smear infection that is transmitted by touching objects, but that close dancing and exuberant celebrations have led to infections."

Despite the update from the CDC, the World Health Organization's website still indicates that "COVID-19 spreads primarily through close contact with someone who is infected, but it can also spread if you touch contaminated objects and surfaces. You can protect yourself: clean your hands and your surroundings frequently!"
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
I posted about this a few days ago, here's more on the subject:


Scientists call for urgent research on potential for mouthwash to reduce SARS-CoV-2 transmission
14 May 2020

A group of scientists has called for urgent research into whether readily-available mouthwash could be effective in reducing SARS-CoV-2 transmission.

The group carried out a review of scientific research in this area, published today in the journal Function, to assess whether mouthwash could have the potential to reduce transmission in the early stages of infection.

The researchers from Cardiff University’s School of Medicine, along with the universities of Nottingham, Colorado, Ottawa, Barcelona and Cambridge’s Babraham Institute included virologists, lipid specialists, microbicide and healthcare experts, while industry partners provided global formulation information. The review was led by Professor Valerie O’Donnell who was made a Fellow of the Academy of Medical Sciences on Wednesday.

SARS-CoV-2 is an enveloped virus with an outer fatty (lipid) membrane - but the researchers said there had so far been “no discussion” about the potential role of damaging this membrane as a possible way to inactivate the virus in the throat.

It said previous studies had shown that agents commonly found in mouthwashes, such as low amounts of ethanol, povidone-iodine and cetylpyridinium, could disrupt the lipid membranes of several enveloped viruses. It is not yet known whether this could also be the case for this new coronavirus.

The researchers assessed existing mouthwash formulations for their potential ability to disrupt the SARS-CoV-2 lipid envelope - and suggested that several deserve clinical evaluation.

“We highlight that already published research on other enveloped viruses, including coronaviruses, directly supports the idea that further research is needed on whether oral rinsing could be considered as a potential way to reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2,” the authors said.

They said research to determine the potential of this approach could include evaluating existing - or specifically-tailored - formulations of mouthwash in the lab and then in clinical trials. Monitored population-based trials could be undertaken with appropriate commercially-available brands.

Lead author Professor O’Donnell, Co-Director of Cardiff University’s Systems Immunity Research Institute, said: “Safe use of mouthwash - as in gargling - has so far not been considered by public health bodies in the UK. In test tube experiments and limited clinical studies, some mouthwashes contain enough of known virucidal ingredients to effectively target lipids in similar enveloped viruses.

“What we don’t know yet is whether existing mouthwashes are active against the lipid membrane of SARS-CoV-2. Our review of the literature suggests that research is needed as a matter of urgency to determine its potential for use against this new virus.

“This is an under-researched area of major clinical need - and we hope that research projects will be quickly mobilised to further evaluate this.”

Professor O’Donnell added: “Mouthwash has not been tested against this new coronavirus yet. People should continue to follow the preventive measures issued by the UK government, including washing hands frequently and maintaining social distance. This study suggests further clinical studies could be worthwhile based on the theoretical evidence.”
Reminds me of President Trump's comment about disinfecting inside the body. If effective on the coating of the virus, this could reduce the dosage of virus a person is exposed to as could the new viricide mask materials several universities are working on.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uATMbGK__Tg
23:48 min
Good News, Reinfection Unlikely
•May 20, 2020

Dr. John Campbell

Seriously good news today actually.

Reinfection https://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo... https://www.livescience.com/coronavir... http://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=... South Korea Testing positive again, China, Japan and Italy, as much 10 weeks later Recovered patients who tested positive for COVID-19 likely not reinfected Patients who appeared reinfected, false positives Probable long-term immunity Expert panel, dead virus fragments causing 290 to test positive after recovery Not caused by reinfection or reactivation Tests detected the ribonucleic acid of the dead virus PCR tests, cannot distinguish living or dead virus, leading to false positives Fragments of the virus can be detected for up to two months Respiratory epithelial cells have a half-life of up to three months Patients had developed antibodies The process in which Covid-19 produces a new virus takes place only in host cells and does not infiltrate the nucleus, (Dr Oh) This means it does not cause chronic infection or recurrence Virus stays outside of the host cell's nucleus, before quickly bursting out and infiltrating the next cell Unlike hepatitis B or human immunodeficiency viruses (HIV) The virus is currently undergoing very small genetic changes Even if antibody levels, memory cells (memory lymphocytes) The KCDC has not found a single case where such patients had passed the coronavirus to another person
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Rftnxbi6w
11:48 min
Coronavirus Pandemic Update 73: Relapse, Reinfections, & Re-Positives - The Likely Explanation
•May 20, 2020

MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY

COVID-19 Update 73 with Roger Seheult, MD. All coronavirus updates available free at https://www.medcram.com/courses/coron...

After several reports of COVID 19 reinfections or "re-positives" (a positive test, followed by a negative test, followed by a positive test), there have been lingering questions: Does a COVID-19 infection provide immunity? Is it possible to get the new coronavirus twice?

New data from the Korean CDC sheds light on this question and Dr. Seheult illustrates how RT-PCR COVID-19 testing works and what may be happening when a person appears to be reinfected. Also, the first SARS-CoV-2 antigen test has been approved by the FDA. (This video was recorded on May 20, 2020)

----------------------- Links referenced in this video: Johns Hopkins Tracker - https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html https://www.worldometers.info/coronav... Detailed Animation About How RT-PCR Works: https://youtu.be/ThG_02miq-4 FDA Press Release - https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press... Korean CDC Article - https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?... NBC - https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health... ------------------------------------------- Some previous videos from this series (visit MedCram.com for the full series):
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqG8XW51UJo
14:12 min
What Do We Need To Know About COVID-19 to Safely Reopen K-12 Schools in the Fall?
•May 20, 2020


Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Reopening schools is a crucial goal for the well-being of students and for parents to return to work. But there are gaps in what we know about kids and COVID-19 transmission. A new report from The Center for Health Security lays out the evidence schools would need to assess safety for kids, teachers, staff, and families. Co-authors Anita Cicero and Tara Kirk Sell talk with Stephanie Desmon about what questions need answering to safely set up schools for students to return. Read the full report on the Center for Health Security's website: https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.o...
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTxkpzpeRj0
58:38 min
War Room: Pandemic EP 185 - The Politics of Science (w/ Eric Edwards)
•Streamed live 6 hours ago

Bannon WarRoom - Citizens of the American Republic


Steve Bannon, Jack Maxey, Jason Miller, and Raheem Kassam discuss the latest on the coronavirus pandemic as the debate over the politicization of science rages with science journals now enter the arena of opinion pieces. Eric Edwards calls in to discuss his frontline experience bringing back the medicinal supply chain to America.

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdcpO7iVAf8
1:04:47 min
War Room: Pandemic EP 186 - American Crusade (w/ Pete Hegseth and Raynard Jackson)
•Streamed live 5 hours ago

Bannon WarRoom - Citizens of the American Republic


Steve Bannon, Jack Maxey, Jason Miller, and Raheem Kassam discuss the latest on the coronavirus pandemic as the latest polling shows Americans displeasure with China is on the rise. Calling in is Pete Hegseth to discuss his new book "American Crusade". Also calling in is Raynard Jackson to talk about NABJ acting like running dogs for the Chinese Communist Party.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHDcb7Z8Fc4
7:42 min
FIXING THE ECONOMY: How loans ENABLE COVID-19 lockdown & why federal spending MUST stop
•May 20, 2020

Glenn Beck

"It's like living in the Soviet Union." Each day of the COVID-19 pandemic, elected officials across the US continue to enact lockdown regulations that move Americans further and further away from the rights granted to them under the Constitution. However, the left's policies put not only our civil liberties at stake but the health of our economy too. Economist Stephen Moore -- Heritage Foundation fellow and economic advisor to the Trump administration -- is now part of a new coalition called "Save Our Country," a task force whose members share one common goal: doing everything possible to avoid further ruin of the American economy. Moore tells Glenn why federal loans granted to the states are NOT a good option, and how those loans ENABLE states to extend the coronavirus lockdown. Moore describes the terrifying reality of Nancy Pelosi's proposed three trillion dollar stimulus bill, and he shares the steps President Trump is taking to counteract the Orwellian policy moves by the left.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment

People with lung conditions should NOT wear face masks if it makes it hard to breathe, experts caution as hot air and tight fit can trigger symptoms
  • Experts say masks can cause breathing difficulties for people with weaker lungs
  • Asthma UK tells asthmatics 'if you are finding it hard, then don’t wear one'
  • One expert explained hot air can trigger asthma symptoms for some people
  • And tight-fitting masks can make it hard to breathe even for healthy people
  • UK Government now recommends masks when in close proximity to others
By SAM BLANCHARD SENIOR HEALTH REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 14:39 EDT, 18 May 2020 | UPDATED: 10:25 EDT, 19 May 2020

People who have asthma or other lung conditions should not wear a face mask if it makes it difficult for them to breathe, experts say.

The British Government is now advising people to wear face coverings if they are out in places where it is difficult to stay at least two metres (6'6") away from others.

This is because the coronavirus is a respiratory virus, meaning it infects people when it is breathed in and attaches to cells inside the airways and the lungs.
But people who have asthma or illnesses such as chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) or cystic fibrosis may find masks or face coverings make it hard for them to breathe.

Masks can make it more difficult to draw air into the lungs, may trigger asthma for some patients and can also cause anxiety which changes people's breathing patterns.

The patients are in a catch-22, however, because they are also at a higher risk of becoming seriously ill if they do catch the virus, and may be more likely to spread it when they're infectious.

Experts say people should wear a mask if they comfortably can, to protect themselves and others around them, but not risk their own health in the process.

Mask-wearing in certain situations in public is now mandatory in many countries in Europe, including France, Germany, Austria, Czech Republic and Slovakia (Pictured: Three staff members put on masks as they prepare to return to work at a bar in Berlin)


Mask-wearing in certain situations in public is now mandatory in many countries in Europe, including France, Germany, Austria, Czech Republic and Slovakia (Pictured: Three staff members put on masks as they prepare to return to work at a bar in Berlin)

In its official guidance, Britain's Cabinet Office now says: 'If you can, wear a face covering in an enclosed space where social distancing isn’t possible and where you will come into contact with people you do not normally meet. This is most relevant for short periods indoors in crowded areas, for example, on public transport or in some shops.'

But it adds: 'Face coverings should not be used by children under the age of 2 or those who may find it difficult to manage them correctly. For example, primary age children unassisted, or those with respiratory conditions.'

Respiratory conditions are illness that interfere with someone's breathing such as asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disorder (COPD), cystic fibrosis, chronic bronchitis, emphysema or lung cancer.


Wearing a mask, experts say, can make it harder to draw air into the lungs and make symptoms of those conditions worse.

Asthma UK says: 'For some people with asthma, wearing a face covering might not be easy. It could make it feel harder to breathe.

'The government has advised that people with respiratory conditions don’t need to wear face coverings, so if you are finding it hard, then don’t wear one.'

Dr Purvi Parikh, an allergist with the Allergy & Asthma Network non-profit, said people with lung conditions, those with skin abnormalities on their face or neck, or children or people with dementia may not be able to wear masks regularly.

Those with breathing problems may find they worsen because of the mouth and nose covering, she said.

Dr Parikh told MailOnline: 'Those with lung conditions are in a catch-22 because they probably need the mask more than the average person but it can be challenging to breathe.

'A tight mask on your face can make anyone have trouble breathing. I even get it when I'm treating my patients.

'We're approaching summer-time so it's hot outside, and when you're consistently breathing hot air on top of your own breath that can be quite uncomfortable.

The British Government has published a how-to guide to help people make face coverings out of t-shirts to protect themselves from the coronavirus
Boris Johnson: Facemasks useful when people go back to work


THE TRUTH ABOUT FACE MASKS: WHAT STUDIES HAVE SHOWN

Research on how well various types of masks and face coverings varies but, recently, and in light of the pandemic of COVID-19, experts are increasingly leaning toward the notion that something is better than nothing.

A University of Oxford study published on March 30 concluded that surgical masks are just as effective at preventing respiratory infections as N95 masks for doctors, nurses and other health care workers.

It's too early for their to be reliable data on how well they prevent infection with COVID-19, but the study found the thinner, cheaper masks do work in flu outbreaks.

The difference between surgical or face masks and N95 masks lies in the size of particles that can - and more importantly, can't - get though the materials.

N95 respirators are made of thick, tightly woven and molded material that fits tightly over the face and can stop 95 percent of all airborne particles, while surgical masks are thinner, fit more loosely, and more porous.

This makes surgical masks much more comfortable to breathe and work in, but less effective at stopping small particles from entering your mouth and nose.
Droplets of saliva and mucous from coughs and sneezes are very small, and viral particles themselves are particularly tiny - in fact, they're about 20-times smaller than bacteria.

For this reason, a JAMA study published this month still contended that people without symptoms should not wear surgical masks, because there is not proof the gear will protect them from infection - although they may keep people who are coughing and sneezing from infecting others.

But the Oxford analysis of past studies- which has not yet been peer reviewed - found that surgical masks were worth wearing and didn't provide statistically less protection than N95 for health care workers around flu patients.

However, any face mask is only as good as other health and hygiene practices. Experts universally agree that there's simply no replacement for thorough, frequent hand-washing for preventing disease transmission.

Some think the masks may also help to 'train' people not to touch their faces, while others argue that the unfamiliar garment will just make people do it more, actually raising infection risks.

If the CDC does instruct Americans to wear masks, it could create a second issue: Hospitals already face shortages of masks and other PPE.


'It's uncomfortable to breathe hot air because we're used to being in a temperate environment. For some asthmatics warm air is a trigger and can cause asthma attacks, so for them it's unfortunately a perfect storm.'

Dr Parikh said there is no evidence to suggest that the general public would use masks heavy duty enough - or wear them for long enough - that they would start to feel the effects of breathing back in carbon dioxide that they had just breathed out.

She said medical grade masks are not necessary for normal people to wear and should be reserved for medical professionals.

This lines up with the CDC's advice, which is for people to make their own face covering out of cloth rather than buying special ones.

The British Government, too, urges people to wear 'face coverings' rather than masks.

These may include scarves, bandanas, cloths, or it has even published a how-to guide for making a basic mask out of an old t-shirt.

Health Minister Jo Churchill said: 'We are advising people to consider wearing a face covering if they can in enclosed public spaces where social distancing is impossible, for example on public transport or in shops.

'This may help prevent you spreading the virus to others.

'You do not need a clinical mask which is prioritised for our healthcare workers. Instead a face covering is sufficient and we encourage people to make these at home with items they will already own.'

Countries around the world now require people to wear masks while in public to stop them spreading the disease.

While the practice was already widespread in East Asia, it has now spread to Western Europe and Germany, Czech Republic, Austria, Slovakia and last week France have required people to wear them in certain situations by law.

In the US it is not necessary but the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) advises people to wear a face covering of some sort while in public.

Although the scientific consensus is that a mask or face covering will not protect someone from the virus, it may stop them spouting virus-infected droplets into the air for people around them to breathe in.

This may be especially true for people with lung conditions which make them cough, sneeze or breathe more heavily than usual, Dr Parikh said.

The coronavirus spreads in droplets, which means they piggy-back on the water that people breathe out normally - that causes condensation when you breathe on a window.

A cough or sneeze can spread the virus considerably further than just breathing.
Dr Parikh added: '[Vulnerable] people should absolutely wear masks if they can. Not only will it protect them but people with asthma or COPD may actually spread more of the virus because they're coughing, sneezing and breathing harder than other people.'
 

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CDC: Coronavirus mainly spreads through person-to-person contact and 'does not spread easily' on contaminated surfaces
Korin Miller
May 19, 2020, 8:33 AM PDT
The CDC has updated guidelines on coronavirus' spread, saying that it's not likely to spread through surfaces.

The CDC has updated guidelines on coronavirus' spread, saying that it's "not likely" to spread through surfaces.

Even before COVID-19 officially had a name, public health officials said the virus could be transmitted through infected respiratory droplets and by touching infected surfaces and then touching your nose, mouth, and possibly your eyes. So, people began snatching up face masks, wearing gloves, and ramping up hand hygiene to try to protect themselves.

While touching infected surfaces has always been part of the messaging on how the virus spreads, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recently shifted its stance online. The CDC now says that COVID-19 spreads from person to person contact, and then lists touching infected surfaces under a section titled, "The virus does not spread easily in other ways." The CDC adds: “This is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads, but we are still learning more about this virus.” The language is a subtle change from the organization’s warning in early March, when it wrote simply that it “may be possible” to spread the virus through contaminated surfaces.

The CDC, which did not respond to Yahoo Life’s request for comment, still recommends that you wash your hands often with soap and water, and routinely clean and disinfect frequently touched surfaces to protect yourself and others from the virus.

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Doctors have many unanswered questions about how the coronavirus attacks the body. One potential treatment focuses on drugs that help regulate a patient's immune response to the virus, stopping it from causing the inflammation that can result in devastating consequences. CBS News senior medical correspondent Dr. Tara Narula looks at one arthritis drug and speaks to a patient who took it.

The CDC’s lesser emphasis on infected surfaces as part of the spread of COVID-19 is slightly different from that of the World Health Organization (WHO). The WHO states online that “COVID-19 spreads primarily from person to person,” but adds that, “it can also spread if you touch contaminated objects and surfaces.”

The WHO even breaks down for readers all of the commonly-touched surfaces to be wary of, like doorknobs, computers, elevator buttons, and pens, noting that “If you touch something contaminated and then touch your face… you might fall ill.”

So what does this mean, exactly?

Dr. Richard Watkins, an infectious disease physician in Akron, Ohio, and a professor of internal medicine at the Northeast Ohio Medical University, tells Yahoo Life that it’s important to keep in mind that COVID-19 is a new virus. “We are still learning about this new coronavirus —including how it spreads — and knowledge is increasing daily,” he says. With that, some guidance and information on the virus may change over time, he says.

There has been no new, major study to suggest that contaminated surfaces are less important in the spread of COVID-19, but epidemiological data (which is the method used to find the causes of health outcomes and diseases in populations) has simply found that person-to-person contact is more important, infectious disease expert Dr. Amesh A. Adalja, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, tells Yahoo Life.

“Based on the epidemiology, we know that the main way this virus is infecting people is from direct contact with other infected people,” Adalja says.

“Contaminated surfaces play some role, but it’s likely much smaller.” It also makes sense, too, he says: “This is a respiratory virus, and respiratory viruses largely spread through breathing in infected respiratory droplets.”

Concerns about contracting the virus from infected surfaces mostly stemmed from a study published in The New England Journal of Medicine in mid-March.

That study found that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, can last on a variety of surfaces for anywhere from four hours (copper) to three days (plastic and stainless steel). What the study didn’t find was whether people could actually become infected from touching those surfaces. But, since the study’s release, people have been nervous about handling mail, groceries, and other high-touch surfaces like doorknobs.

But the CDC’s shift in guidance doesn’t mean you should stop being cautious with those things, Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist and professor at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, tells Yahoo Life. “If I had to pick the things to pick an emphasis on to reduce the spread of COVID-19, it would still be social distancing, wearing masks, and practicing good hand hygiene,” he says. Schaffner compares the spread of COVID-19 to roadways.

“Person-to-person contact is a highway, and the inanimate environment is a byway. Touching infected surfaces are little paths, but they don’t carry the big viral traffic,” he says.

Watkins agrees. “It might be possible to become infected after touching a surface that has the virus, then touching one's face,” he says. “That is why handwashing and avoiding touching one's face are important. However, this isn't the main way the virus is spread.”
 

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Gov. Holcomb to sign executive order moving most of Indiana to State 3 of reopening plan starting Friday
Posted: May 20, 2020 / 12:33 PM EDT / Updated: May 20, 2020 / 04:32 PM EDT

INDIANAPOLIS — Gov. Eric Holcomb says most of Indiana can proceed to Stage 3 of his reopening plan starting Friday, May 22.

The move will not include Marion, Cass and Lake counties, which will move to Stage 3 on June 1, according to Holcomb.

Holcomb said Indiana had “earned the ability to continue to move forward” through social distancing, good hygiene and the wearing of masks.

“People have been, by and large, for the most part, I always say 99-percent, have been paying attention to wearing a mask when you’re in large crowds or close to folks, or that social… physical distancing, that six feet plus,” Holcomb said.

The governor said he made the decision with “comfort and confidence” because Hoosiers have been limiting contact and paying close attention to better hygiene.

The move means gyms, YMCAs, fitness studios may open with restrictions, along with community pools and campgrounds.

Recreational sports practices may begin, although contact sports are prohibited. Raceways can begin competition with no spectators, Holcomb said.

Basketball, tennis, soccer and baseball courts and field may open. Gatherings of up to 100 people are allowed.

Under Stage 3, facial coverings are still recommended, as are social distancing protocols. Working at home is also recommended if possible.

Movie theaters can open at 50% capacity, according to the guidelines.

Bars and clubs will remain closed, as will most entertainment and tourism venues. Retail stores and malls are allowed 75% capacity while mall food courts are allowed 50% capacity.

Holcomb said he’ll sign the executive order on Thursday. The order will extend the prohibition of evictions and turning off utilities during the pandemic.

The governor said to “pencil in” June 14 as the start date for Stage 4 of the reopening plan. It will all depend on the trends in COVID-19 cases and data, he said.

“Stage 2 is a very important stage that got us to Stage 3,” he said. “Stage 3 will be just as important to Stage 4, and it will determine if we get to Stage 4.”

On Wednesday, the Indiana State Department of Health (ISDH) reported 581 new cases of COVID-19 between May 8-19 and 38 new deaths between May 3-19, bringing the statewide totals to 29,274 and 1,716 respectively. Nearly 200,000 people in the state have been tested.

INDOT Commissioner Joe McGuinness also spoke during the briefing, saying 2020 construction work was taking advantage of reduced traffic, saving millions of dollars in the process.

Weekend traffic has increased of late, driven by improving weather and the slow reopening of the state economy.

McGuinness said the state’s 28 open rest areas are being monitored by staff and cleaned hourly with a focus on doors, handles, vending areas and fixtures. Travel brochures have been temporarily removed.

Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter said reduced traffic meant there have been 22,000 fewer crashes compared to this time last year and 25 fewer fatal accidents.


 
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