In the Clif High video earlier today he mentioned that this virus lived in the bats for life. That it was always with them and constantly probing for a weakness. When they get old or injured and stop producing Vitamin C then the virus takes over and they die. FWIW but there might be something to it. I sure hope not.
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In the Clif High video earlier today he mentioned that this virus lived in the bats for life. That it was always with them and constantly probing for a weakness. When they get old or injured and stop producing Vitamin C then the virus takes over and they die. FWIW but there might be something to it. I sure hope not.
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Millennials are the unseen leaders in the coronavirus crisis
This crisis is millennials’ opportunity to pick up the baton.
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Millennials are the unseen leaders in the coronavirus crisis
BY CLARE BRESNAHAN ENGLISH, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 04/05/20 06:00 PM EDT
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Dr. Deborah Brix, coordinator of the White House Coronavirus (COVID-19) Task Force, proclaimed millennials “are the core group that will stop this virus.” As the largest adult generation, currently ages 24 to 39 years old, she recognized Millennials' critical role in the nation’s efforts to slow the spread through physical distancing.
While some news commentators have maligned millennials, highlighting young adults blissfully partying as the outbreak spreads, the narrative about this generation’s response to the crisis is simply incorrect.
A generation forged by tragic events - including 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, and the Great Recession - millennials grew up to be helpers in crisis, with big hearts and big capacities to activate and organize. Their participation trophies taught them to embrace cooperation over competition. They know how to work together to get things done for the greater good. In the end, it won’t simply be millennials’ physical distancing efforts that will help alleviate this public health and financial crisis, it will be their values and leadership.
This crisis makes it clear, now more than ever, that strong millennial leaders will guide us through these times. Take Rep. Lauren Underwood (D-Ill.) who co-led an intergenerational effort to ensure costs will not be a barrier to COVID-19 testing, with Reps. Katie Porter (D-Calif.) and Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.).
At school boards, millennial leaders like Jennifer Bacon in Denver are ensuring students still have meals provided. State legislators, like Del. Jheanelle Wilkins in Maryland, are partnering on housing policies to protect renters and homeowners.
But they don't have to be elected officials to be the leaders our nation needs right now. There is an ecosystem of millennial leaders contributing to the well-being of our communities. They are the non-profit leaders serving their community’s growing needs with less funding. They are the small business owners and employees, struggling to stay afloat. They are the digital organizers providing social solidarity as we all adapt to physical distancing.
They are also the workers in industries hit hardest by this crisis. Millennials are 48 percent of workers in clothing stores, 49 percent of workers in restaurants and other food services, and 59 percent of workers in bars.
Millennials’ are putting in overtime to ensure we are all prepared. They are the thousands of doctors, nurses and health care professionals who are on the frontlines of this crisis. They are also 46 percent of the workers in pharmacies and drug stores.
As the nation and the world dive deeper into economic distress, millennials are dealing with the economic impacts of COVID-19 closing businesses and laying off workers, since more than one in three Americans in the labor force are millennials. As of 2016, 57 percent of millennial women were moms. Moreover, millennials make up one in four of the nation’s unpaid family caretakers. The real picture of a millennial during this crisis is someone not only dealing with economic strain, but working to balance homeschooling their kids, caring for their parents, all the while leading the transition to digital work.
Despite their portrayal as footloose and fancy-free, millennials are taking action to keep communities healthy and connected and will be there to rebuild what will be lost during this pandemic. These leaders will continue to focus on caring for and partnering with the generations who paved the way, as well as the generations that come after them.
Our grandparents came together during World War II to protect democracy.
Our parents led the civil rights, women's rights, LGTBQ rights, immigrant rights and peace movements for a better country. This crisis is millennials' opportunity to pick up the baton. We are ready.
Clare Bresnahan English is president and CEO of New Leaders Council (NLC), the nation’s largest training organization of progressive millennial leaders. With 50 state and city chapters and nearly 9,000 fellows and alumni representing the robust diversity of our nation, NLC provides a rising generation of leaders with the resources and community needed to protect our shared future.
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Quinn answered a request from the local hospitals for help with creating “ear guards” to help take the pressure off health care workers ears from wearing masks all day. He got busy on his 3D printer and has been turning out dozens of ear guards to donate.
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Edit: Due to the unbelievable response we have decide to post the link to the file we are using. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4249113
We need more volunteers to fire up their 3D printers and donate these ear guards to hospitals and medical professionals!
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We have a big public event here that's cancelled for the year. They're all looking forward to next year. I told them not to get too complacent.
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Leading Dutch doctor suggests they won't treat elderly patients during COVID-19 pandemic
Speaking of the different cultures between different countries, the doctor implied that senior citizens would essentially be left to die in the Netherlands.
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Leading Dutch doctor suggests they won’t treat elderly patients during COVID-19 pandemic
By Cassy Fiano-Chesser | April 4, 2020 , 09:10am
Fears of health care rationing due to the coronavirus pandemic appear to be well-founded. At Aleteia, Salvador Aragonese has raised the alarm with a report out of the Netherlands, where he says elderly people are being refused health care.
Dr. Frits Rosendaal is the head of clinical epidemiology at the Leiden University Medical Center, a member of the Royal Dutch Academy of Sciences and Art, a recipient of the Spinoza Award (the highest scientific prize in the Netherlands), and the author of nearly 500 papers published in international scientific journals. Yet in a recent interview with Spanish newspaper El Español, Rosendaal caused outrage when he insinuated that elderly people diagnosed with the coronavirus, or COVID-19, are not being treated in the Netherlands.
Speaking of the different cultures between Italy, Spain, and the Netherlands, Rosendaal said that because senior citizens are more respected in those countries, with a higher “cultural position,” they receive health care — but in the Netherlands, they would essentially be left to die. “In Italy, the capacity of ICUs is managed very differently,” he said. “They admit people that we would not include because they are too old. The elderly have a very different position in the Italian culture.”
In addition to this shocking statement from Rosendaal, Dutch finance minister Wopke Hoekstra caused international outrage when he called for Portugal and Spain to be investigated during a European Union summit, claiming they have wasted money in relating to the coronavirus pandemic. Hoekstra later apologized, but it has led to even more criticism from numerous European countries.
Furthermore, another report published in Il Giornale, an Italian newspaper, alleges that elderly people are being asked if they want to be ventilated long-term, or if they would rather let nature take its course — even if they haven’t been diagnosed with COVID-19. Il Giornale said this is happening to avoid overcrowding hospitals, but still criticized the measure, saying, “In short, we are faced with a sort of natural selection masked by selective euthanasia.”
Euthanasia has been legal for almost two decades in the Netherlands, and it has led to a clear devaluation of human life, especially those deemed not valuable enough — like the elderly, the disabled, and the ill. Rather than offering treatment or cures for people suffering from things like dementia, autism, depression, intellectual disabilities, and more, Dutch doctors have become comfortable with prescribing death. It’s not surprising, then, that in an emergency situation in which health care services are strained, it is these same vulnerable classes of people who are suffering the most. Rosendaal is right; there is a different culture in the Netherlands. And it’s an unfortunate one.
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Pennsylvania COVID-19 Numbers
Current number of positive results, age breakdowns, hospitalizations, and more.
www.health.pa.gov
COVID-19 Cases in Pennsylvania*
| Negative | Positive | Deaths |
| 66,261 | 11,510 | 150 |
Positive Cases by Age Range to Date
| Age Range | Percent of Cases |
| 0-4 | < 1% |
| 5-12 | < 1% |
| 13-18 | 1% |
| 19-24 | 8% |
| 25-49 | 42% |
| 50-64 | 29% |
| 65+ | 20% |
Hospitalizations by Age Range to Date
Total number of hospitalizations since 3/6/2020: 1072
| Age Range | Percent of Cases |
| 0-4 | < 1% |
| 5-12 | 0% |
| 13-18 | < 1% |
| 19-24 | 1% |
| 25-49 | 19% |
| 50-64 | 28% |
| 65+ | 51% |
County Case Counts to Date
| County | Number of Cases | Deaths |
| Adams | 22 | |
| Allegheny | 605 | 4 |
| Armstrong | 12 | |
| Beaver | 84 | 6 |
| Bedford | 4 | |
| Berks | 276 | 3 |
| Blair | 5 | |
| Bradford | 10 | |
| Bucks | 555 | 13 |
| Butler | 87 | 2 |
| Cambria | 7 | |
| Cameron | 1 | |
| Carbon | 50 | 1 |
| Centre | 43 | |
| Chester | 269 | 2 |
| Clarion | 5 | |
| Clearfield | 7 | |
| Clinton | 1 | |
| Columbia | 22 | |
| Crawford | 7 | |
| Cumberland | 58 | 2 |
| Dauphin | 118 | 1 |
| Delaware | 708 | 14 |
| Erie | 19 | |
| Fayette | 27 | 1 |
| Forest | 3 | |
| Franklin | 30 | |
| Fulton | 1 | |
| Greene | 12 | |
| Huntingdon | 4 | |
| Indiana | 13 | |
| Juniata | 7 | |
| Lackawanna | 172 | 6 |
| Lancaster | 371 | 8 |
| Lawrence | 23 | 2 |
| Lebanon | 106 | |
| Lehigh | 877 | 8 |
| Luzerne | 741 | 5 |
| Lycoming | 9 | |
| McKean | 1 | |
| Mercer | 18 | |
| Mifflin | 9 | |
| Monroe | 528 | 11 |
| Montgomery | 1111 | 18 |
| Montour | 37 | |
| Northampton | 636 | 11 |
| Northumberland | 14 | |
| Perry | 5 | 1 |
| Philadelphia | 3135 | 28 |
| Pike | 114 | 1 |
| Potter | 3 | |
| Schuylkill | 90 | |
| Snyder | 8 | 1 |
| Somerset | 4 | |
| Sullivan | 1 | |
| Susquehanna | 6 | |
| Tioga | 3 | |
| Union | 6 | |
| Venango | 3 | |
| Warren | 1 | |
| Washington | 50 | |
| Wayne | 33 | |
| Westmoreland | 147 | |
| Wyoming | 5 | |
| York | 171 | 1 |
Are you taking into account those who are financially unable to procure additional food and meds? Subsistance living is actual, here in the USA... I know people that have two regular jobs, as well as an additional part time job, in order to maintain in "good" times. What happens when their work places close, they are laid off, or they're fired? What about those with sudden, unexpected medical conditions, or those whose status must be upgraded?
Perhaps you need to have your eyes open, ask God for compassion, and be not so damned eager to judge... God news for you. You're NOT God!!!
Get over yourself...
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Trump raises prospect of lockdown lift knowing people will get virus
The president's, left, words during Saturday raise the prospect of reopening businesses soon. 'We have to get back to work. We don't want to be doing this for months and months', he said.
'Difficult decisions ahead': Donald Trump raises the prospect of LIFTING the lockdown knowing people will get infected because 'we can't go on like this' and 'the cure cannot be worse than the disease'
- The president's words during his daily briefing Saturday raises the prospect of reopening businesses soon
- 'We have to get back to work. We don't want to be doing this for months and months and months', he said
- Trump said that 'at a certain point some hard decisions are going to have to be made' in terms of lockdown
- He also reportedly told NFL commissioner Roger Goodell that the football season will still begin in September in a conference call on Saturday as the president claimed we 'have to open our country again'
- But Dr Birx warned to avoid going to the grocery store or the pharmacy unless it is essential for two weeks
- Cases of COVID-19 have increased by more than 100,000 in the past three days; the death toll tops 9,100
- 'This will be probably the toughest week. There will be a lot of death', Trump told reporters on Saturday
PUBLISHED: 08:23 EDT, 5 April 2020 | UPDATED: 17:19 EDT, 5 April 2020
Donald Trump has raised the prospect of lifting coronavirus lockdowns across the United States, arguing the nation cannot be 'destroyed' and 'we have to get back to work'.
The president's words during his daily briefing Saturday raise the prospect of reopening businesses and services knowing people will get infected.
Trump said: 'We have to get back to work. We don't want to be doing this for months and months and months.'
The president said reopening will be a 'big decision'. He has previously argued the 'cure cannot be worse than the problem.'
Speaking Saturday Trump added: 'Mitigation does work, but again we're not going to destroy our country. We have to get back. Because you know, at a certain point, you lose more people this way through all of the problems caused than you will with what we're doing right now.
'We went this extra period of time but I said it from the beginning the cure cannot be worse than the problem itself. At a certain point some hard decisions are going to have to be made.'
President Donald Trump answers questions in the press briefing room with members of the White House Coronavirus Task Force on April 4. The president has raised the prospect of lifting coronavirus lockdowns across the United States
Bodies are seen inside a makeshift morgue outside Wyckoff Hospital in Brooklyn, NYC on Saturday. Confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the US have increased by more than 100,000 in the past three days as the death toll topped 8,500 on Saturday.
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Fauci: China's 'Delay in Transparency' 'Likely' Prevented Other Countries from Restricting Travel
During an interview broadcast on Friday's "PBS NewsHour," Coronavirus Task Force member Dr. Anthony Fauci stated that without China's "delay in transparency" on the coronavirus, "other countries would have maybe been more quick on the trigger to try and inhibit travel from China to their...
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Fauci: China’s ‘Delay in Transparency’ ‘Likely’ Prevented Other Countries from Restricting Travel
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During an interview broadcast on Friday’s “PBS NewsHour,” Coronavirus Task Force member Dr. Anthony Fauci stated that without China’s “delay in transparency” on the coronavirus, “other countries would have maybe been more quick on the trigger to try and inhibit travel from China to their country.” Fauci also stated that nothing “would have prevented the spread of this virus.”
Fauci stated that in “early January…it became clear that what the Chinese had claimed originally, that this was just a virus that jumped from an animal reservoir to a human, and wasn’t being transmitted from human to human, well, it became very clear pretty quickly that that was not the case. … And when the numbers started coming in as to what the morbidity and the mortality was, it was during that period in early to mid-January that it became clear to me that this was not just another SARS, it wasn’t another MERS, or Middle East Respiratory Syndrome.”
He added, “I don’t think anything would have prevented the spread of this virus. Once it emerged into society, with its capability of efficient spread and morbidity and mortality, that was it. But what could have been different…is that, if we had known that this was highly transmissible early on, when it was just in China, I think other countries would have maybe been more quick on the trigger to try and inhibit travel from China to their country. … So, that delay in transparency, I think, likely had an impact on what I just said, the awareness that this could seed the rest of the world.”
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Video: Nurse demonstrates ease of cross contamination during coronavirus | Daily Mail Online
Ex nurse Molly Lixey of Michigan posted a coronavirus video about how easily germs are spread by cross contamination.
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It is arrogant beyond belief, to not even consider those who are already on the knife edge of existance... I know families where the bread winners, husband and wife, who combined, have three full time jobs, as well as one or two more part time jobs... Why? Unexpected medical bills, laid-off or business failing, bad crop yeild due to weather, down turn in international business, industry collapse, ect... The list goes on, as does the attendant misery...
Poverty, NOT the result of laziness or sloth, does exist, here, in the USA. When it happens, most often, there are no helping hands- either family, friends, charity, or government. In such a world as now affects us, vis-a-vis COVID-19, for many, there are NO safety nets...
People are going to die- lack of food and/or meds, as well as essential services themselves...
You can ignore the poor- Jesus, Himself, acknowledged that we would always have the poor... Does that mean that compassion should no longer exist? Even a kind word, or a non-pitying smile, can ease the pain of an overburdened heart...
Do any here, who have sufficiency, feel superior to those who do not? If so, you have my pity, and my disdain. Never, ever, feel smug, while others suffer...
Remember, many who do suffer, and do not have sufficiency, are, or were, hard working, dedicated, heads of families... Do they not agonize over the stress and need of their spouses and children?
We're not talking Charles Dickens here. We're talking here, now, in the USA as well as other First World nations...
The lack of kindness, compassion, love, and regard for others less fortunate, marks the end of a nation, society, or civilization.
To those who look down on those in need, physically, mentally, and/or spiritually, I have a simple message... God ain't happy...
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Report: Fired Navy Commander Brett Crozier Positive for Coronavirus
The ex-commander of the USS Theodore Roosevelt Navy Capt. Brett Crozier tested positive for coronavirus before he was removed from command.
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Report: Fired Commander of Aircraft Carrier Captain Crozier Tested Positive for Coronavirus
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The ex-commander of the USS Theodore Roosevelt, Navy Capt. Brett Crozier, tested positive for coronavirus, according to a report.
Crozier began exhibiting symptoms before he was removed from command on Thursday, the New York Times reported on Sunday morning, citing two of Crozier’s close friends.
Navy Secretary Thomas Modly fired Crozier on Thursday, after a memo he wrote urging Navy leaders to get sailors off the ship faster in Guam due to a coronavirus outbreak leaked to the San Francisco Chronicle, Crozier’s hometown paper.
Modly said Crozier was not fired for raising concerns, but for emailing the memo over an unsecured and unclassified system and cc’ing more than 20 people, including some outside the chain of command, and for not bringing his concerns to his direct superior, who lived on the ship down the hallway from him.
Videos emerged on Friday of Crozier exiting the ship, and hundreds of crew members gathered together cheering, “Captain Crozier!”
Until the Times‘ report on Sunday, there was no indication that Crozier himself had tested positive for coronavirus, or was exhibiting symptoms himself.
It is not clear whether he had those symptoms at the time of his writing the memo, which was dated Monday, March 30. The memo leaked to the Chronicle the next day, Tuesday, March 31. Crozier was fired on Thursday, April 2.
“It is unclear when he was first tested for Covid-19 or when he received his results,” according to the Times.
A Navy spokesman told the Times that Crozier has been reassigned to the headquarters of the Naval Air Forces Pacific command in San Diego, but that he must complete a quarantine period first in Guam.
Democrat leaders on the House Armed Services Committee criticized Crozier’s removal as an “overreaction,” although they conceded that he “clearly” went outside the chain of command and “did not handle the immense pressure appropriately.”
Joe Biden has called Crozier’s firing “close to criminal” and has blamed the “Trump admin” despite the decision being Modly’s own.
“I think he should have a commendation rather than be fired,” he said.
President Trump on Friday said he backed Modly’s decision, and said the ship should have never stopped on a port visit to Vietnam just several weeks ago.
Navy leaders have previously defended that decision, saying there were only 16 known cases of coronavirus further up north at the time.
This report has been updated.
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Dems Introduce Measure to Give Coronavirus Relief Check to Illegal Aliens
Democrats on Friday introduced a measure to amend the $2 trillion CARES Act, extending the cash payment benefit to non-citizens.
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Democrats Introduce Measure to Extend Coronavirus Relief Check to Illegal Aliens
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Democrats on Friday introduced a measure to amend the $2 trillion CARES Act, extending the cash payment benefit to non-citizens, including illegal aliens.
Three House Democrats, Reps. Lou Correa (CA), Judy Chu (CA), and Raúl Grijalva (AZ), introduced the Leave No Taxpayer Behind Act designed to amend the cash payment portion of the CARES Act — the $2 trillion emergency economic relief measure designed to help U.S. citizens who are facing economic hardship caused by the coronavirus pandemic — to extend to non-citizens.
Currently, the CARES Act requires recipients to have a Social Security number. ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers) taxpayers, which include foreign nationals and those residing in the country illegally, are not eligible and will not receive cash assistance. That is an “egregious error,” according to the Democrats’ press release.
“The Leave No Taxpayer Behind Act amends the CAREs Act to ensure that all taxpayers are eligible for their $1,200 relief check,” the release states:
“I was appalled to learn hardworking, taxpaying immigrants were left out of the $2 trillion CARES Act,” Correa said in a statement:
Chu agreed, proclaiming that the U.S. economy cannot survive the crisis by “excluding entire segments of the population” and added that the virus “does not care about immigration status.”
“Immigrants—regardless of their status—are taxpayers who are working in some of the most important jobs keeping our economy running during this difficult time. COVID-19 doesn’t discriminate,” Grijalva said, echoing his counterparts.
“Our relief programs shouldn’t discriminate against those who need help during this crisis, and this legislation ensures that immigrants with ITINs can get the economic relief they deserve,” he continued.
Cosponsors of the legislation include key members of the far-left “Squad” — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), and Ilhan Omar (D-MN).
Ocasio-Cortez was among the first to issue a public complaint on benefits failing to extend to non-citizens, whether lawful or unlawful.
“To clarify, $1200 checks are ONLY going to some w/social sec numbers, NOT immigrants w/ tax IDs (ITINs),” she wrote after the Senate unanimously passed the bipartisan bill. “Thanks to GOP, these checks will be cut off the backs of *taxpaying immigrants,* who get nothing”:
The bipartisan bill, which President Trump signed last week, will provide a $1,200 check to U.S. citizens making up to $75,000 annually. Families making $150,000 per year or less will be eligible for $2,400 in cash relief, with $500 per child.
Leading Dutch doctor suggests they won't treat elderly patients during COVID-19 pandemic
Speaking of the different cultures between different countries, the doctor implied that senior citizens would essentially be left to die in the Netherlands.
Leading Dutch doctor suggests they won’t treat elderly patients during COVID-19 pandemic
By Cassy Fiano-Chesser | April 4, 2020 , 09:10am
Fears of health care rationing due to the coronavirus pandemic appear to be well-founded. At Aleteia, Salvador Aragonese has raised the alarm with a report out of the Netherlands, where he says elderly people are being refused health care.
Dr. Frits Rosendaal is the head of clinical epidemiology at the Leiden University Medical Center, a member of the Royal Dutch Academy of Sciences and Art, a recipient of the Spinoza Award (the highest scientific prize in the Netherlands), and the author of nearly 500 papers published in international scientific journals. Yet in a recent interview with Spanish newspaper El Español, Rosendaal caused outrage when he insinuated that elderly people diagnosed with the coronavirus, or COVID-19, are not being treated in the Netherlands.
Speaking of the different cultures between Italy, Spain, and the Netherlands, Rosendaal said that because senior citizens are more respected in those countries, with a higher “cultural position,” they receive health care — but in the Netherlands, they would essentially be left to die. “In Italy, the capacity of ICUs is managed very differently,” he said. “They admit people that we would not include because they are too old. The elderly have a very different position in the Italian culture.”
In addition to this shocking statement from Rosendaal, Dutch finance minister Wopke Hoekstra caused international outrage when he called for Portugal and Spain to be investigated during a European Union summit, claiming they have wasted money in relating to the coronavirus pandemic. Hoekstra later apologized, but it has led to even more criticism from numerous European countries.
Furthermore, another report published in Il Giornale, an Italian newspaper, alleges that elderly people are being asked if they want to be ventilated long-term, or if they would rather let nature take its course — even if they haven’t been diagnosed with COVID-19. Il Giornale said this is happening to avoid overcrowding hospitals, but still criticized the measure, saying, “In short, we are faced with a sort of natural selection masked by selective euthanasia.”
Euthanasia has been legal for almost two decades in the Netherlands, and it has led to a clear devaluation of human life, especially those deemed not valuable enough — like the elderly, the disabled, and the ill. Rather than offering treatment or cures for people suffering from things like dementia, autism, depression, intellectual disabilities, and more, Dutch doctors have become comfortable with prescribing death. It’s not surprising, then, that in an emergency situation in which health care services are strained, it is these same vulnerable classes of people who are suffering the most. Rosendaal is right; there is a different culture in the Netherlands. And it’s an unfortunate one.
Note to DJT: Forget aid to Holland...
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Here's what it's like inside a New York ER during the coronavirus outbreak
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At one New York hospital emergency room, six patients went into cardiac arrest in a span of 40 minutes. Four died before they made it out of the ER. It's not chaos, but to an onlooker, it seems like hell.
"They're so sick you lose them in a heartbeat, they're that sick," respiratory therapist Julie Eason told CNN. "They're talking to you and then a few minutes later you're putting a tube down their throat and you're hoping that you can set the ventilator in such a way that it actually helps them."
This is the truth of what coronavirus is doing to thousands of Americans, and likely will to many thousand more. It has been largely unseen because visitors are not allowed to be in hospitals, and everyone else is staying home.
CNN was invited to witness the scenes inside the University Hospital of Brooklyn, New York, part of the SUNY Downstate Health Sciences University. All the patients the hospital treats now are suffering from coronavirus. The hospital is one of three in the state ordered by Gov. Andrew Cuomo to dedicate itself entirely to dealing with the pandemic.
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At one New York hospital emergency room, six patients went into cardiac arrest in a span of 40 minutes. Four died before they made it out of the ER. It's not chaos, but to an onlooker, it seems like hell.
"They're so sick you lose them in a heartbeat, they're that sick," respiratory therapist Julie Eason told CNN. "They're talking to you and then a few minutes later you're putting a tube down their throat and you're hoping that you can set the ventilator in such a way that it actually helps them."
This is the truth of what coronavirus is doing to thousands of Americans, and likely will to many thousand more. It has been largely unseen because visitors are not allowed to be in hospitals, and everyone else is staying home.
CNN was invited to witness the scenes inside the University Hospital of Brooklyn, New York, part of the SUNY Downstate Health Sciences University. All the patients the hospital treats now are suffering from coronavirus. The hospital is one of three in the state ordered by Gov. Andrew Cuomo to dedicate itself entirely to dealing with the pandemic.
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Send this notice around with a signup list and then forward on to ICE!Dems Introduce Measure to Give Coronavirus Relief Check to Illegal Aliens
Democrats on Friday introduced a measure to amend the $2 trillion CARES Act, extending the cash payment benefit to non-citizens.
Democrats Introduce Measure to Extend Coronavirus Relief Check to Illegal Aliens
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Democrats on Friday introduced a measure to amend the $2 trillion CARES Act, extending the cash payment benefit to non-citizens, including illegal aliens.
Three House Democrats, Reps. Lou Correa (CA), Judy Chu (CA), and Raúl Grijalva (AZ), introduced the Leave No Taxpayer Behind Act designed to amend the cash payment portion of the CARES Act — the $2 trillion emergency economic relief measure designed to help U.S. citizens who are facing economic hardship caused by the coronavirus pandemic — to extend to non-citizens.
Currently, the CARES Act requires recipients to have a Social Security number. ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers) taxpayers, which include foreign nationals and those residing in the country illegally, are not eligible and will not receive cash assistance. That is an “egregious error,” according to the Democrats’ press release.
“The Leave No Taxpayer Behind Act amends the CAREs Act to ensure that all taxpayers are eligible for their $1,200 relief check,” the release states:
“I was appalled to learn hardworking, taxpaying immigrants were left out of the $2 trillion CARES Act,” Correa said in a statement:
Chu agreed, proclaiming that the U.S. economy cannot survive the crisis by “excluding entire segments of the population” and added that the virus “does not care about immigration status.”
“Immigrants—regardless of their status—are taxpayers who are working in some of the most important jobs keeping our economy running during this difficult time. COVID-19 doesn’t discriminate,” Grijalva said, echoing his counterparts.
“Our relief programs shouldn’t discriminate against those who need help during this crisis, and this legislation ensures that immigrants with ITINs can get the economic relief they deserve,” he continued.
Cosponsors of the legislation include key members of the far-left “Squad” — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), and Ilhan Omar (D-MN).
Ocasio-Cortez was among the first to issue a public complaint on benefits failing to extend to non-citizens, whether lawful or unlawful.
“To clarify, $1200 checks are ONLY going to some w/social sec numbers, NOT immigrants w/ tax IDs (ITINs),” she wrote after the Senate unanimously passed the bipartisan bill. “Thanks to GOP, these checks will be cut off the backs of *taxpaying immigrants,* who get nothing”:
The bipartisan bill, which President Trump signed last week, will provide a $1,200 check to U.S. citizens making up to $75,000 annually. Families making $150,000 per year or less will be eligible for $2,400 in cash relief, with $500 per child.
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Dems Introduce Measure to Give Coronavirus Relief Check to Illegal Aliens
Democrats on Friday introduced a measure to amend the $2 trillion CARES Act, extending the cash payment benefit to non-citizens.
Democrats Introduce Measure to Extend Coronavirus Relief Check to Illegal Aliens
Yep, just what we knew they would do. IF you are here illegally you should get jack squat!
The demon-crats always come down on the side of those who break the laws and come in to this country, leach off the social programs --- yet always put down the working class citizens!
But their sheep will vote them into office in 2020 again... even with all they have done to do nothing for the people of this country for the last 3+ years!
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Dems Introduce Measure to Give Coronavirus Relief Check to Illegal Aliens
Democrats on Friday introduced a measure to amend the $2 trillion CARES Act, extending the cash payment benefit to non-citizens.
Democrats Introduce Measure to Extend Coronavirus Relief Check to Illegal Aliens
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Democrats on Friday introduced a measure to amend the $2 trillion CARES Act, extending the cash payment benefit to non-citizens, including illegal aliens.
Three House Democrats, Reps. Lou Correa (CA), Judy Chu (CA), and Raúl Grijalva (AZ), introduced the Leave No Taxpayer Behind Act designed to amend the cash payment portion of the CARES Act — the $2 trillion emergency economic relief measure designed to help U.S. citizens who are facing economic hardship caused by the coronavirus pandemic — to extend to non-citizens.
Currently, the CARES Act requires recipients to have a Social Security number. ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers) taxpayers, which include foreign nationals and those residing in the country illegally, are not eligible and will not receive cash assistance. That is an “egregious error,” according to the Democrats’ press release.
“The Leave No Taxpayer Behind Act amends the CAREs Act to ensure that all taxpayers are eligible for their $1,200 relief check,” the release states:
“I was appalled to learn hardworking, taxpaying immigrants were left out of the $2 trillion CARES Act,” Correa said in a statement:
Chu agreed, proclaiming that the U.S. economy cannot survive the crisis by “excluding entire segments of the population” and added that the virus “does not care about immigration status.”
“Immigrants—regardless of their status—are taxpayers who are working in some of the most important jobs keeping our economy running during this difficult time. COVID-19 doesn’t discriminate,” Grijalva said, echoing his counterparts.
“Our relief programs shouldn’t discriminate against those who need help during this crisis, and this legislation ensures that immigrants with ITINs can get the economic relief they deserve,” he continued.
Cosponsors of the legislation include key members of the far-left “Squad” — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), and Ilhan Omar (D-MN).
Ocasio-Cortez was among the first to issue a public complaint on benefits failing to extend to non-citizens, whether lawful or unlawful.
“To clarify, $1200 checks are ONLY going to some w/social sec numbers, NOT immigrants w/ tax IDs (ITINs),” she wrote after the Senate unanimously passed the bipartisan bill. “Thanks to GOP, these checks will be cut off the backs of *taxpaying immigrants,* who get nothing”:
The bipartisan bill, which President Trump signed last week, will provide a $1,200 check to U.S. citizens making up to $75,000 annually. Families making $150,000 per year or less will be eligible for $2,400 in cash relief, with $500 per child.
If you don't want illegals here with COVID-19, deport them- NOW!!! Don't go about caring for them, other than brief care necessary to return them to their nations... They are the fault of their nations, not the USA.
OA
bev
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jiHSg-Vw7U
12:21 min
Should We Do CPR for COVID-19 Patients? What is ECMO (Extracorporeal Membrane Oxygenation)?
•Premiered 44 minutes ago
Doctor Mike Hansen
The average length of mechanical ventilation for patients with COVID-19 who have ARDS is 17 days. For some patients, ECMO (Extracorporeal Membrane Oxygenation) is a last-ditch effort that involves taking blood out of the body, oxygenation that blood, and removing carbon dioxide from that blood, and returning that blood back to the body. Also, during this pandemic, when an Adult COVID-19 patient has a cardiac arrest (their heart stops), should health care workers perform CPR (ACLS) on them? This is a controversial topic that needs to be addressed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv2imTjQfGo
This is a really important video. We all need to think about what interventions we would want or not want if we were to get covid19 and need to go to the hospital. Dr. Hansen goes over the options very well. Don’t leave these choices up to healthcare providers, or even family members.
I will watch that one later tonight. Thanks.
Good Night, Everyone...
Too much D-O-O-M, to little compassion on the parts of some, and damned little hope going around.
Need to recharge my batteries, as I'm on the event horizon of total burnout...
God Bless, Guard, Keep, Preserve, and Guide You All...
OA
Too much D-O-O-M, to little compassion on the parts of some, and damned little hope going around.
Need to recharge my batteries, as I'm on the event horizon of total burnout...
God Bless, Guard, Keep, Preserve, and Guide You All...
OA
Trivium Pursuit
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Does not address the reinfections/
Definitively resolving whether some people are having a second infection or whether it's simply quasI dormant existing virus particles that are reawakening is, I think, critically important to Understanding what is going to be the longer term impacts of this disease. We may find a little further down the road that whatever this allegedly infection or reawakening of existing viruses actually is is something truly to be avoided.
The same could be said if a second wave trigger as the dengue style reaction. I think we want to keep ourselves from getting infected for as long as possible to give us as much time as possible to answer these 2 important questions. Quite simply, I think that everyone who can work at home, should work at home, for some time.
UPDATED TO ADD: I'm just catching up on the feed here, and I watched that little video from China it is post 41,855 on page 1047, 1:25 pm. The somebody being interviewed in Chinese and I'm just going to share the most relevant sentences right here: When asked if patients in China were really recovered, the voice on the other end said this: " According to front line doctors, this virus can't be cleared from the body. The virus remains dormant after treatment. The patient will relapse when the temperature or conditions are favorable for the virus. That means there is no State of recovery for the infected." This reinforces my conjectures here above, also something that someone else here said about this possibly remaining in the body life long like malaria that will have to be suppressed.
Sounds plausible, however.... Does not address the reinfections/resurgence for existing virii that seem to be occurring, nor the possibility of Dengue style ADE occurring during a second wave (in which your antibodies now guide the viruses straight to their targeted cells), which many are expecting.
Definitively resolving whether some people are having a second infection or whether it's simply quasI dormant existing virus particles that are reawakening is, I think, critically important to Understanding what is going to be the longer term impacts of this disease. We may find a little further down the road that whatever this allegedly infection or reawakening of existing viruses actually is is something truly to be avoided.
The same could be said if a second wave trigger as the dengue style reaction. I think we want to keep ourselves from getting infected for as long as possible to give us as much time as possible to answer these 2 important questions. Quite simply, I think that everyone who can work at home, should work at home, for some time.
UPDATED TO ADD: I'm just catching up on the feed here, and I watched that little video from China it is post 41,855 on page 1047, 1:25 pm. The somebody being interviewed in Chinese and I'm just going to share the most relevant sentences right here: When asked if patients in China were really recovered, the voice on the other end said this: " According to front line doctors, this virus can't be cleared from the body. The virus remains dormant after treatment. The patient will relapse when the temperature or conditions are favorable for the virus. That means there is no State of recovery for the infected." This reinforces my conjectures here above, also something that someone else here said about this possibly remaining in the body life long like malaria that will have to be suppressed.
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Doomer Doug
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I just got an email from my step brother forwarding some drivel from Harvard about leadership using Cuomo of New York and Whittaker of Michigan as prime examples of great leaders. Of course, Cuomo is now stealing from upstate New York. My whole family are mostly government workers who are uber liberals. etc Next I just saw an tv ad from unite the the country that savagely attacks Trump and his handling of the virus and makes so many lies it was hard for me to keep track
One of the many was they ignore Obama stripping the stockpiles to deal with Ebola back in 2014 and then not restocking. No mention of that but Trump's so called elimination of the pandemic agency prominently. Pelosi is all over this group, maybe soros and the sheeple will lap it up. Get ready. Arm up. Realize the democrats are demon possessed scum, intent on murdering us and prepare for the marxist dictatorship now being implemented on us. When Pelosi gets mail order voting in bill 4 they will just steal the 2020 election
One of the many was they ignore Obama stripping the stockpiles to deal with Ebola back in 2014 and then not restocking. No mention of that but Trump's so called elimination of the pandemic agency prominently. Pelosi is all over this group, maybe soros and the sheeple will lap it up. Get ready. Arm up. Realize the democrats are demon possessed scum, intent on murdering us and prepare for the marxist dictatorship now being implemented on us. When Pelosi gets mail order voting in bill 4 they will just steal the 2020 election
Doomer Doug
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Oh boy, I am on the family email list. I can look forward to 6 or more emails saying what a genius Cuomo is and Whittaker isn't really a corrupt sleazeball and Trump's orange hair will be the death of us all. I can barely stand to be with most of them anymore. 
Doomer Doug
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What a corrupt turd this fool is. Illinois wasted all its money so it is now BILLIONS IN DEBT FOR GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE PENSIONS. HE SPENDS HIS TIME ATTACKING TRUMP.View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj_0mrwTrQo
40:05 min
Illinois Gov. Pritzker Gives Update On Coronavirus
•Streamed live 3 hours ago
NBC News
Watch coronavirus livestream coverage of the outbreak as COVID-19 spreads, impacting markets and daily life across the U.S. and abroad.
Tristan
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I didn't watch the cam, just relied on the initial pic which had lots o' people; just tried to watch and it says unavailable... :/
3 in Times Square, yah that's pretty deserted.
desertvet2
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desertvet2
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Deleted: not a good rant. Suffice it to say.
I am disgusted.
I am disgusted.
And that attitude/decision will cause a whole new set of problems for them. Seriously, after a time I may get the vaccine if they get one developed and it isn't like the flu shot for their best guess, but I won't be going first. On the other hand if blackmail becomes their game I hope they understand that it goes both ways. I can't shop at your store because I don't have proof of a medical treatment, damn shame that store burnt down last night and now nobody can shop there. Can't get a job because you don't have their permission, sorry that your networks was hacked and after being ransacked was crashed. And that is before you even get to the wild west version when delivery trucks are hijacked in route, farm workers ran off and warehouses destroyed.
When someone has nothing left to lose they are at their most dangerous point and they really aren't concerned with the ending of the story.
et2
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Hmmm, So all this lockdown is a farse ....
desertvet2
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I have to go with some humor here after seeing the Democrats latest "predictable" move....I am so pissed, I will share some humor...
WARNING. EYE BLEACH MAY BE NECESSARY
WARNING. EYE BLEACH MAY BE NECESSARY
desertvet2
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...and one for the ladies..
