parsonswife
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Hi Tom do you have a link for this? Near my AO
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marsh
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2:04 min
Burials Delayed, Morgues Overwhelmed By NYC COVID-19 Death Rate | NBC New York
•Premiered Apr 2, 2020
NBC New York
Funeral home and cemetery directors in New York City suggest the COVID-19 crisis has burdened the "aftercare industry," resulting in the delay of some burials while a number of hospitals have a buildup of bodies that go days without aftercare. The number of coronavirus-related deaths - 1,562 in New York City as of Thursday - has resulted in burial delays longer than a week, some city funeral directors say. Some hospitals, News 4 New York has learned, are taking several days to release death certificates, and even more days to release bodies. One New York City cemetery director says she receives up to six calls about funerals and visitations "on a normal day." On Thursday, she had over 100 calls. Jonathan Dienst reports.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
6:17 min
Cruise ships on which people with Covid-19 died have docked in Florida - BBC News
•Apr 3, 2020
BBC News
Two cruise ships on which four people with Covid-19 have died have docked in Florida - after weeks of uncertainty at sea. The Zaandam and its sister ship the Rotterdam both arrived in Fort Lauderdale after they'd been barred from ports in South America. They'd also been told they couldn't dock in Florida - a decision later reversed. Passengers fit for travel will disembark and fly home. Several dozen with mild symptoms will stay on board for a quarantine period. The 14 people with severe symptoms will be treated in local hospitals. The Zaandam left Buenos Aires on 7 March and was meant to finish its trip in Chile two weeks later - but was barred from docking after a virus outbreak on board. It was then joined by the Rotterdam for supplies, and both ships found themselves in limbo with no port accepting their call. Another cruise ship, the Coral Princess - which also has confirmed cases on board - will arrive in Florida on Saturday.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
4:14 min
Analysis: Is the UK's coronavirus lockdown working?
•Apr 4, 2020
Sky News
Ed Conway crunches the latest COVID-19 data and asks: How long will the lockdown last and will it contain the crisis?
marsh
On TB every waking moment
[COMMENT: Germany manufactures medical equipment and some PPE. They have prohibited export of these for a couple of months.]
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQZ1FeSKyBo
7:33 min
Coronavirus: US accused of hijacking shipments of masks | DW News
•Apr 4, 2020
DW News (GERMANY)
Berlin's city government has accused the US of 'an act of modern day piracy' after a shipment of 200,000 protective face masks was hijacked on its way from China to Germany. The masks had been ordered by Berlin's police force from an American manufacturer producing in China. But, according to Berlin authorities, they were confiscated in Bangkok and diverted to the US. As the coronavirus pandemic worsens, demand for crucial medical supplies, such as masks and respirators, has surged worldwide, leading to unprecedented buying practices and countries outbidding each other. New York state had its largest single-day death toll in the pandemic so far. The state now accounts for nearly half of all virus-related fatalities in the country. As hospitals continue to face critical shortages of medical equipment, New York's governor, Andrew Cuomo, has issued an executive order to seize critically-needed supplies across the state and bring them to where they're needed most.
7:33 min
Coronavirus: US accused of hijacking shipments of masks | DW News
•Apr 4, 2020
DW News (GERMANY)
Berlin's city government has accused the US of 'an act of modern day piracy' after a shipment of 200,000 protective face masks was hijacked on its way from China to Germany. The masks had been ordered by Berlin's police force from an American manufacturer producing in China. But, according to Berlin authorities, they were confiscated in Bangkok and diverted to the US. As the coronavirus pandemic worsens, demand for crucial medical supplies, such as masks and respirators, has surged worldwide, leading to unprecedented buying practices and countries outbidding each other. New York state had its largest single-day death toll in the pandemic so far. The state now accounts for nearly half of all virus-related fatalities in the country. As hospitals continue to face critical shortages of medical equipment, New York's governor, Andrew Cuomo, has issued an executive order to seize critically-needed supplies across the state and bring them to where they're needed most.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
6:37 min
Coronavirus lockdown leaves India's poorest fearing hunger | DW News
•Apr 3, 2020
DW News [Germany]
More than a million people have now been infected with the coronavrius around the world. Fifty thousand are dead. One country which so far has had relatively low infection rates is India. With a population of 1,3 billion people the county has registered only 2,500 cases so far. In a video message broadcast Friday, Prime Minister Narendra Modi tried to bolster moral in the country by urging people to light candles. Last week the country introduced a nationwide lockdown to stem the spread of the virus.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
4:01 min
India lockdown: How the world's largest coronavirus lockdown is unfolding
•Apr 3, 2020
Global News
The largest coronavirus lockdown in the world is happening right now in India. The country’s 1.3 billion people are required to stay at home for 21 days. And just over a week in, reports of harsh police crackdowns, homeless people being left stranded and a surge in positive coronavirus cases, illustrate the difficulties the country faces in enforcing a nationwide lockdown. With such a dense population, how does India plan to curb the spread of COVID-19? Some experts say the country's most vulnerable are at risk. Emanuela Campanella explains.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
8:09 min
If U.S. blocks N95 mask exports, what does it mean for Canada?
•Apr 4, 2020
CBC News
U.S. President Donald Trump has ordered U.S.-based company 3M to stop exporting masks. Two experts explain what this means for Canada.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
[COMMENT: Note the Wuhan medical personal in the later stages wore full PPE for infectious disease, heavily protected - not just a mask, gloves and goggles]
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZkTsl3zObw
2:42 min
Why N95 masks are so important
•Apr 4, 2020
CBC News
The Trump administration is telling one of the world's leading manufacturers of N95 masks that it should stop exporting masks to Canada and Latin America.
2:42 min
Why N95 masks are so important
•Apr 4, 2020
CBC News
The Trump administration is telling one of the world's leading manufacturers of N95 masks that it should stop exporting masks to Canada and Latin America.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Dear Library Lady---
Do you remember ANOTHER fallen flag?
The 2012 summer Olympics, as the US tennis medals (the US had won the gold) were being awarded at Wimbledon---
just as the music came to the phrase "gave proof through the night that our flag was still there"-- AT THAT MOMENT---it fell and dropped to the ground.
You can hear the horrified gasps and "Oh!"s of the crowd.........
Video:
marsh
On TB every waking moment
4:22 min
US and China trade accusations over Covid-19
•Apr 3, 2020
TRT World
There’s a war of words between China and the US over the coronavirus outbreak. It's a fight to control the narrative - where did the pandemic begin? Who's to blame? And it's an opportunity to flex superpower muscle.
Tom McDowell
BAMN
orf8 = mild West Coast
Italian = Honey badger, New York.
Also explains a similar change occurred in original SARS.
To avoid all the TDS listen from 22:30 to 33:38
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Plain Jane
Just Plain Jane
Pennsylvania COVID-19 Numbers
Current number of positive results, age breakdowns, hospitalizations, and more.
www.health.pa.gov
COVID-19 Cases in Pennsylvania*
| Negative | Positive | Deaths |
| 60,013 | 10,017 | 136 |
Positive Cases by Age Range to Date
| Age Range | Percent of Cases |
| 0-4 | < 1% |
| 5-12 | < 1% |
| 13-18 | 1% |
| 19-24 | 8% |
| 25-49 | 41% |
| 50-64 | 29% |
| 65+ | 20% |
Hospitalizations by Age Range to Date
Total number of hospitalizations since 3/6/2020: 1004
| Age Range | Percent of Cases |
| 0-4 | < 1% |
| 5-12 | 0% |
| 13-18 | < 1% |
| 19-24 | 1% |
| 25-49 | 19% |
| 50-64 | 28% |
| 65+ | 51% |
County Case Counts to Date
| County | Number of Cases | Deaths |
| Adams | 21 | |
| Allegheny | 552 | 3 |
| Armstrong | 12 | |
| Beaver | 69 | 6 |
| Bedford | 4 | |
| Berks | 235 | 2 |
| Blair | 5 | |
| Bradford | 10 | |
| Bucks | 488 | 11 |
| Butler | 84 | 2 |
| Cambria | 6 | |
| Cameron | 1 | |
| Carbon | 46 | 1 |
| Centre | 39 | |
| Chester | 250 | 2 |
| Clarion | 4 | |
| Clearfield | 7 | |
| Clinton | 1 | |
| Columbia | 20 | |
| Crawford | 5 | |
| Cumberland | 54 | 2 |
| Dauphin | 99 | 1 |
| Delaware | 616 | 13 |
| Erie | 19 | |
| Fayette | 23 | 1 |
| Forest | 2 | |
| Franklin | 27 | |
| Greene | 12 | |
| Huntingdon | 4 | |
| Indiana | 9 | |
| Juniata | 7 | |
| Lackawanna | 146 | 6 |
| Lancaster | 291 | 5 |
| Lawrence | 22 | 2 |
| Lebanon | 87 | |
| Lehigh | 804 | 7 |
| Luzerne | 648 | 5 |
| Lycoming | 10 | |
| McKean | 1 | |
| Mercer | 14 | |
| Mifflin | 4 | |
| Monroe | 484 | 11 |
| Montgomery | 982 | 17 |
| Montour | 19 | |
| Northampton | 588 | 11 |
| Northumberland | 9 | |
| Perry | 5 | 1 |
| Philadelphia | 2610 | 24 |
| Pike | 97 | 1 |
| Potter | 3 | |
| Schuylkill | 77 | |
| Snyder | 6 | 1 |
| Somerset | 3 | |
| Sullivan | 1 | |
| Susquehanna | 5 | |
| Tioga | 3 | |
| Union | 5 | |
| Venango | 3 | |
| Warren | 1 | |
| Washington | 46 | |
| Wayne | 28 | |
| Westmoreland | 135 | |
| Wyoming | 5 | |
| York | 144 | 1 |
marsh
On TB every waking moment
2:04 min
US intelligence officials suspect China deliberately downplayed COVID-19 cases and deaths
•Apr 4, 2020
Sky News Australia
United States intelligence officials suspect China may have deliberately under-reported the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths in the country. They say the decision to downplay its numbers is having deadly consequences for the rest of the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhzF-5xELOE
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UpcnTEyHiQ
8:09 min
If U.S. blocks N95 mask exports, what does it mean for Canada?
•Apr 4, 2020
CBC News
U.S. President Donald Trump has ordered U.S.-based company 3M to stop exporting masks. Two experts explain what this means for Canada.
The US gains it's 51st state! After all, trying to buy Iceland didn't work out so well...
OA
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
Garbage barges in sealed body bags,weighted down and into the atlantic 50 miles off shore. Nuff saidView: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9HpxV_0CpQ
2:04 min
Burials Delayed, Morgues Overwhelmed By NYC COVID-19 Death Rate | NBC New York
•Premiered Apr 2, 2020
NBC New York
Funeral home and cemetery directors in New York City suggest the COVID-19 crisis has burdened the "aftercare industry," resulting in the delay of some burials while a number of hospitals have a buildup of bodies that go days without aftercare. The number of coronavirus-related deaths - 1,562 in New York City as of Thursday - has resulted in burial delays longer than a week, some city funeral directors say. Some hospitals, News 4 New York has learned, are taking several days to release death certificates, and even more days to release bodies. One New York City cemetery director says she receives up to six calls about funerals and visitations "on a normal day." On Thursday, she had over 100 calls. Jonathan Dienst reports.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
2:54 min
New York Hospital’s Cardiac Unit Pivots To Treat COVID-19 Patients | NBC News NOW
•Apr 3, 2020
NBC News
Dr. Umesh Gidwani takes NBC News behind the scenes as his cardiac unit adapts to respond to the coronavirus pandemic in New York, one of the hardest hit U.S. cities.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQFCcSI0pU
I Found The Source of the Coronavirus
1,115,028 views
•Apr 1, 2020
RT 12:00
laowhy86
441K subscribers
Hey Laowinners, After 2 weeks of painstaking searching, I refute the claim that the Coronavirus started outside of China.
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Links for proof at OP
=== Additional Coverage From Zero Hedge===
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 04/03/2020 - 19:00
That is how "laowhy86" begins this succinct video exploring the 'facts' - not conspiracies - behind the source of the coronavirus that is ravaging the earth.
Furthermore, he notes, the Chinese government layers are "broken and fragile" and so it didn't surprise him when he was able to follow breadcrumbs - as begun by our inquisition about the roles that certain individuals played in Wuhan - to discover the "very suspicious" fact that the Wuhan Bio lab had a job opening from November 18, 2019, asking for scientists to come and research the relationship between the coronavirus and bats.
However, after ZeroHedge was permanently suspended from Twitter for daring to suggest anything but the official narrative handed down, laowhy86 notes that another job opening appeared on December 24th (remember this is before any news broke of the virus publicly), which basically says 'we've discovered a new and terrible virus and would like to recruit people to come deal with it'...
So, he decided to dig a little bit more into the staff... and that's where it gets interesting... as he discovers silenced scientists, disappeared doctors, and constant propaganda...
As he concludes,
"Despite the CCP's all-powerful ability to hide everything it can, the truth usually finds its way out - the Chinese government should cover their tracks better next time if they're going to blame this on Italy or the US or whatever is convenient to your narrative."
"...the CCP's incompetence and its understanding of the danger of the virus on a pure scientific level - and then going on to silence those who wanted to warn the public... and letting the virus spread for months... is the reason the Chinese government must be held accountable!"
What is really fascinating, however, is that while this thread was dismissed and censored as utter nonsense just two months ago (and got many banned for even daring to mention it), none other than David Ignatius, The Washington Post's favorite establishment columnist, is now questioning China's narrative and raising his own doubts as to the origin of the virus, writing that ...as China dished wild, irresponsible allegations of its own.
On March 12, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Lijian Zhao charged in a tweet: “It might be [the] US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan.”
He retweeted an article that claimed, without evidence, that U.S. troops might have spread the virus when they attended the World Military Games in Wuhan in October 2019.
A competing theory has been gathering momentum - of an accidental lab release of bat coronavirus...
Less than 300 yards from the seafood market is the Wuhan branch of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention. Researchers from that facility and the nearby Wuhan Institute of Virology have posted articles about collecting bat coronaviruses from around China, for study to prevent future illness. Did one of those samples leak, or was hazardous waste deposited in a place where it could spread?
Richard Ebright, a Rutgers microbiologist and biosafety expert, told me in an email that “the first human infection could have occurred as a natural accident,” with the virus passing from bat to human, possibly through another animal. But Ebright cautioned that it “also could have occurred as a laboratory accident, with, for example, an accidental infection of a laboratory worker.” He noted that bat coronaviruses were studied in Wuhan at Biosafety Level 2, “which provides only minimal protection,” compared with the top BSL-4.
Ebright described a December video from the Wuhan CDC that shows staffers “collecting bat coronaviruses with inadequate [personal protective equipment] and unsafe operational practices.” Separately, I reviewed two Chinese articles, from 2017 and 2019, describing the heroics of Wuhan CDC researcher Tian Junhua, who while capturing bats in a cave “forgot to take protective measures” so that “bat urine dripped from the top of his head like raindrops.”
Ignatius unapologetically admits that what's increasingly clear is that the initial “origin story” - that the virus was spread by people who ate contaminated animals at the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan - is shaky.
"Shaky" indeed, David!
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"What is really fascinating, however, is that while this thread was dismissed and censored as utter nonsense just two months ago (and got many banned for even daring to mention it), none other than David Ignatius, The Washington Post's favorite establishment columnist, is now questioning China's narrative and raising his own doubts as to the origin of the virus, writing that ...as China dished wild, irresponsible allegations of its own."
You CANNOT ACCESS this link--the stupid paper puts up an ad over it requiring a $29 subscription to get access.. Does anyone here HAVE access, that could copy / paste the article mentioned?
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Do you have a LINK to that new CDC guideline (or was it anther agency?) allowing health workers to wear masks?
If so, please provide it, so I can post it on Facebook, and encourage ALL my friends who work in hospitals to print it off and stick it in the FACE of their idiot administrators!
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Trivium Pursuit
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Though it was JCAHO, not CDC...
marsh
On TB every waking moment
[COMMENT: Redfield has stated they just found evidence of asymptomatic infection - BS. He was also the one who told the public that this was like a bad flu. HERE is the March 5 German study on asymptomatic carriers https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468?query=featured_home]
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t.co
CDC DIRECTOR SAYS THERE MAY BE ANOTHER CORONAVIRUS WAVE IN LATE FALL AND A 'SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF AMERICANS' WILL BE SUSCEPTIBLE
BY KASHMIRA GANDER ON 4/1/20 AT 4:43 AM EDT
The head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has warned the country may be hit by a second wave of COVID-19 cases in late fall.
Speaking to NPR-affiliate WABE, Dr. Robert Redfield, CDC director and virologist, addressed a potential second wave of infections which may emerge after the spike in hospitalizations and deaths forecast for April or May in models used by the Trump administration.
The CDC is preparing "most likely, for another wave that we would anticipate in the late fall, early winter where there will still be a substantial portion of Americans that are susceptible," Redfield said.
"Hopefully, we'll aggressively re-embrace some of the mitigation strategies that we have determined had impact, particularly social distancing."
Although the nature of the new bug isn't clear, Redfield explained, most respiratory viruses are seasonal, giving experts time to work on countermeasures. This would involve "very aggressively" focusing on states with limited spread.
Redfield also said it appears the new coronavirus is more infectious than the flu, and can be passed by those without symptoms.
Asked what the CDC has learned about the COVID-19-causing virus in recent weeks, Redfield said: "This virus does have the ability to transmit far easier than flu. It's probably now about three times as infectious as flu. One of the [pieces of] information that we have pretty much confirmed now is that a significant number of individuals that are infected actually remain asymptomatic. That may be as many as 25 percent."
The CDC director also highlighted that those who develop COVID-19 may shed its virus in the oropharyngeal compartment (the soft palate, side and back walls of the throat, the tonsils, and the back of the tongue) "probably up to 48 hours before we show symptoms."
Redfield said: "This helps explain how rapidly this virus continues to spread across the country, because we have asymptomatic transmitters and we have individuals who are transmitting 48 hours before they become symptomatic."
According to Johns Hopkins University, the U.S. is the country with the most coronavirus cases, with over 189,600 of the more than 860,100 total confirmed since the virus emerged from China in late December 2019. More than 4,000 people have died in the U.S. compared to the 3,300 deaths reported in China.
As indicated in the Statista graphic below, the coronavirus has spread to every state, Washington, D.C., and four U.S. territories since the first case was reported on January 20.
Number of coronavirus cases in the U.S. as of April 1, 3 a.m. EST.STATISTA
Following a Washington Post report that the CDC is reviewing advice on whether people should wear masks amid the COVID-19 pandemic, Redfield said the agency is "always critically looking at new data." He said figures from Singapore, Hong Kong, and China suggest the issue can be considered both in terms of preventing people from spreading or catching the virus.
"Particularly with the new data, that there's significant asymptomatic transmission, this is being critically re-reviewed to see if there's potential additional value for individuals that are infected or individuals that may be asymptomatically infected," he said.
However, Redfield argued the situation is complex, as if a quarter of cases show no symptoms "the only way you would do it—if you then sort of went into areas that were high transmission zones and had a significant [proportion of] individuals then wearing masks, assuming that they were infected. I can tell you that the data and this issue of whether it's going to contribute [to prevention] is being aggressively reviewed as we speak."
Dr. Benjamin Linas, infectious diseases physician at Boston Medical Center and Associate Professor of medicine and epidemiology at the Boston University Schools of Medicine and Public Health, told Newsweek: "This virus will be with us until we discover a vaccine. However, that does not mean that we must have a second wave of infection. We will have a second wave of infection if we wait until we see cases drop and then emerge from physical distancing without a plan for containment.
"Containment includes very wide scale testing and aggressive contact tracing and isolation for exposed persons. We must be developing that infrastructure now so that we do not suffer a second wave of infections. It is essential that the U.S. response to COVID begin to look past April and May to think about how we will consolidate our progress made by physical distancing and prevent a second wave of infection."
Addressing the new coronavirus being more contagious than the flu, Dr. Joshua Barocas, infectious diseases physician at Boston Medical Center and assistant professor of medicine at Boston University School of Medicine, told Newsweek:
"It does appear that this novel coronavirus is more contagious than influenza. This is due, in part, to the longer period of time that it takes for symptoms to appear and the fact that symptoms may be mild.
"Mild and asymptomatic disease makes it harder for us to control the spread. This is why population-level stay-at-home orders are vital."
This article has been updated with comment from Dr. Benjamin Linas and Dr. Joshua Barocas.
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CDC Director Says There May Be Second Coronavirus Wave in Late Fall
Almost 200,000 COVID-19 cases have been confirmed in the U.S., according to Johns Hopkins University.
t.co
CDC DIRECTOR SAYS THERE MAY BE ANOTHER CORONAVIRUS WAVE IN LATE FALL AND A 'SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF AMERICANS' WILL BE SUSCEPTIBLE
BY KASHMIRA GANDER ON 4/1/20 AT 4:43 AM EDT
The head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has warned the country may be hit by a second wave of COVID-19 cases in late fall.
Speaking to NPR-affiliate WABE, Dr. Robert Redfield, CDC director and virologist, addressed a potential second wave of infections which may emerge after the spike in hospitalizations and deaths forecast for April or May in models used by the Trump administration.
The CDC is preparing "most likely, for another wave that we would anticipate in the late fall, early winter where there will still be a substantial portion of Americans that are susceptible," Redfield said.
"Hopefully, we'll aggressively re-embrace some of the mitigation strategies that we have determined had impact, particularly social distancing."
Although the nature of the new bug isn't clear, Redfield explained, most respiratory viruses are seasonal, giving experts time to work on countermeasures. This would involve "very aggressively" focusing on states with limited spread.
Redfield also said it appears the new coronavirus is more infectious than the flu, and can be passed by those without symptoms.
Asked what the CDC has learned about the COVID-19-causing virus in recent weeks, Redfield said: "This virus does have the ability to transmit far easier than flu. It's probably now about three times as infectious as flu. One of the [pieces of] information that we have pretty much confirmed now is that a significant number of individuals that are infected actually remain asymptomatic. That may be as many as 25 percent."
The CDC director also highlighted that those who develop COVID-19 may shed its virus in the oropharyngeal compartment (the soft palate, side and back walls of the throat, the tonsils, and the back of the tongue) "probably up to 48 hours before we show symptoms."
Redfield said: "This helps explain how rapidly this virus continues to spread across the country, because we have asymptomatic transmitters and we have individuals who are transmitting 48 hours before they become symptomatic."
According to Johns Hopkins University, the U.S. is the country with the most coronavirus cases, with over 189,600 of the more than 860,100 total confirmed since the virus emerged from China in late December 2019. More than 4,000 people have died in the U.S. compared to the 3,300 deaths reported in China.
As indicated in the Statista graphic below, the coronavirus has spread to every state, Washington, D.C., and four U.S. territories since the first case was reported on January 20.
Following a Washington Post report that the CDC is reviewing advice on whether people should wear masks amid the COVID-19 pandemic, Redfield said the agency is "always critically looking at new data." He said figures from Singapore, Hong Kong, and China suggest the issue can be considered both in terms of preventing people from spreading or catching the virus.
"Particularly with the new data, that there's significant asymptomatic transmission, this is being critically re-reviewed to see if there's potential additional value for individuals that are infected or individuals that may be asymptomatically infected," he said.
However, Redfield argued the situation is complex, as if a quarter of cases show no symptoms "the only way you would do it—if you then sort of went into areas that were high transmission zones and had a significant [proportion of] individuals then wearing masks, assuming that they were infected. I can tell you that the data and this issue of whether it's going to contribute [to prevention] is being aggressively reviewed as we speak."
Dr. Benjamin Linas, infectious diseases physician at Boston Medical Center and Associate Professor of medicine and epidemiology at the Boston University Schools of Medicine and Public Health, told Newsweek: "This virus will be with us until we discover a vaccine. However, that does not mean that we must have a second wave of infection. We will have a second wave of infection if we wait until we see cases drop and then emerge from physical distancing without a plan for containment.
"Containment includes very wide scale testing and aggressive contact tracing and isolation for exposed persons. We must be developing that infrastructure now so that we do not suffer a second wave of infections. It is essential that the U.S. response to COVID begin to look past April and May to think about how we will consolidate our progress made by physical distancing and prevent a second wave of infection."
Addressing the new coronavirus being more contagious than the flu, Dr. Joshua Barocas, infectious diseases physician at Boston Medical Center and assistant professor of medicine at Boston University School of Medicine, told Newsweek:
"It does appear that this novel coronavirus is more contagious than influenza. This is due, in part, to the longer period of time that it takes for symptoms to appear and the fact that symptoms may be mild.
"Mild and asymptomatic disease makes it harder for us to control the spread. This is why population-level stay-at-home orders are vital."
This article has been updated with comment from Dr. Benjamin Linas and Dr. Joshua Barocas.
Posted for fair use.....
www.mirror.co.uk
Coronavirus: People in 30s and 40s 'increasingly becoming severe victims of Covid-19'
Coronavirus has infected more than 38,000 people in the UK and killed more than 3,000 more, including a 13-year-old boy from Brixton, south London
By Bradley JollyDigital journalist
Some of these victims have no underlying health conditions and have needed intensive care.
Speaking at a press conference in Geneva yesterday, Dr Maria Van Kerkhove,....(rest behind paywall...HC)
More and more young people 'increasingly becoming severe victims of Covid-19'
Coronavirus has infected more than 38,000 people in the UK and killed more than 3,000 more, including a 13-year-old boy from Brixton, south London
www.mirror.co.uk
Coronavirus: People in 30s and 40s 'increasingly becoming severe victims of Covid-19'
Coronavirus has infected more than 38,000 people in the UK and killed more than 3,000 more, including a 13-year-old boy from Brixton, south London
By Bradley JollyDigital journalist
- 14:38, 4 APR 2020
- Updated14:53, 4 APR 2020
Some of these victims have no underlying health conditions and have needed intensive care.
Speaking at a press conference in Geneva yesterday, Dr Maria Van Kerkhove,....(rest behind paywall...HC)
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
PLEASE post a link to that directive! I'd like to PUBLICLY POST IT ON FACEBOOK for ALL my friends who are in the medical field to copy / print / shove in the face of their CLUELESS administrators!!!
Shooter
Veteran Member
Came across this poem written in 1869, reprinted during 1919 Pandemic.
It was written in 1869 by Kathleen O’Mara:
And people stayed at home
And read books
And listened
And they rested
And did exercises
And made art and played
And learned new ways of being
And stopped and listened
More deeply
Someone meditated, someone prayed
Someone met their shadow
And people began to think differently
And people healed.
And in the absence of people who
Lived in ignorant ways
Dangerous, meaningless and heartless,
The earth also began to heal
And when the danger ended and
People found themselves
They grieved for the dead
And made new choices
And dreamed of new visions
And created new ways of living
And completely healed the earth
Just as they were healed.
Reprinted during Spanish flu
Pandemic, 1919
Photo taken during Spanish flu
The Traveler
Veteran Member
Yeah, probably not gonna happen lol. It didnt work well at all when they did it in 1900 off of Galveston.
coalcracker
Veteran Member
Pennsylvania COVID-19 Numbers
Current number of positive results, age breakdowns, hospitalizations, and more.
COVID-19 Cases in Pennsylvania*
* Map, tables and case counts last updated at 12:00 p.m. on 4/4/2020
Negative Positive Deaths 60,013 10,017 136
Positive Cases by Age Range to Date
* Percentages may not total 100% due to rounding
Age Range Percent of Cases 0-4 < 1% 5-12 < 1% 13-18 1% 19-24 8% 25-49 41% 50-64 29% 65+ 20%
Hospitalizations by Age Range to Date
Total number of hospitalizations since 3/6/2020: 1004
* Percentages may not total 100% due to rounding
Age Range Percent of Cases 0-4 < 1% 5-12 0% 13-18 < 1% 19-24 1% 25-49 19% 50-64 28% 65+ 51%
County Case Counts to Date
County Number of Cases Deaths Adams 21 Allegheny 552 3 Armstrong 12 Beaver 69 6 Bedford 4 Berks 235 2 Blair 5 Bradford 10 Bucks 488 11 Butler 84 2 Cambria 6 Cameron 1 Carbon 46 1 Centre 39 Chester 250 2 Clarion 4 Clearfield 7 Clinton 1 Columbia 20 Crawford 5 Cumberland 54 2 Dauphin 99 1 Delaware 616 13 Erie 19 Fayette 23 1 Forest 2 Franklin 27 Greene 12 Huntingdon 4 Indiana 9 Juniata 7 Lackawanna 146 6 Lancaster 291 5 Lawrence 22 2 Lebanon 87 Lehigh 804 7 Luzerne 648 5 Lycoming 10 McKean 1 Mercer 14 Mifflin 4 Monroe 484 11 Montgomery 982 17 Montour 19 Northampton 588 11 Northumberland 9 Perry 5 1 Philadelphia 2610 24 Pike 97 1 Potter 3 Schuylkill 77 Snyder 6 1 Somerset 3 Sullivan 1 Susquehanna 5 Tioga 3 Union 5 Venango 3 Warren 1 Washington 46 Wayne 28 Westmoreland 135 Wyoming 5 York 144 1
I am now getting some first-hand texts and calls from people I know. We are now getting names to go with the infections, and one report of a rapid crash death (went to work yesterday, and dead today). PA is headed for trouble.
Here's a favorite song from the 60s. I'm dedicating it to you, my friends. I was 5 years old when this album came out, but I remember liking this:
marsh
On TB every waking moment
NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo orders National Guard to seize ventilators from upstate hospitals (#UpstateLivesMatter)
Cuomo calls this "sharing," but the mostly Republican and rural upstate region has a bitter history with Cuomo leaving deep suspicion, as Cuomo's plan would leave upstate hospitals with no excess capacity as the virus epicenter spreads out from NYC.
legalinsurrection.com
NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo orders National Guard to seize ventilators from upstate hospitals (#UpstateLivesMatter)
Posted by William A. Jacobson Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 4:00pm
Cuomo calls this “sharing,” but the mostly Republican and rural upstate region has a bitter history with Cuomo leaving deep suspicion, as Cuomo’s plan would leave upstate hospitals with no excess capacity as the virus epicenter spreads out from NYC.
If you don’t live in upstate NY, you may not realize how horrible a Governor Andrew Cuomo is.
Upstate, a huge region north and west of New York City, is Republican territory, and has been in revolt against Cuomo’s outrageous gun control SAFE Act for years. Almost every upstate county has, in an ultimately futile but symbolic act, rejected the SAFE Act.
Cuomo also banned fracking, which has left upstate stuck in economic decline as nearby Pennsylvania counties thrived. Upstate is shedding population and jobs, while downstate NYC and surroundings receives state government’s attention and majority of votes.
Radio host Bob Landsberry thinks the upstate (Republican) decline is part of Cuomo’s plan, Falling NY Population Is Part Of Cuomo’s Plan:
Cuomo’s “green” agenda continues to run roughshod over rural communities, Andrew Cuomo’s bid to ram industrial wind, solar plants down locals’ throats:
It’s no coincidence that Republican congressional candidates do well in upstate districts, particularly Tom Reed in NY-23 and Elise Stefanik in NY-21, who are national party leaders.
It is these bitter suspicions of Cuomo that have been brought to the surface with Cuomo’s announcement that the state has ordered the National Guard to seize ventilators from upstate NY hospitals for use downstate:
Cuomo reportedly also plans to use military helicopters to seize the ventilators:
Cuomo is not taking all the ventilators from upstate, reportedly he’s only taking 20%, but some hospitals upstate in rural areas already have only a handful to start.
Cuomo, implicitly comparing himself to FDR, says he’ll only be borrowing the ventilators and will return them when NYC no longer needs them.
That’s a dodge — what if small upstate hospitals need them soon, will Cuomo pull them from downstate hospitals? Those downstate hospitals don’t need them NOW, the worry is that they will need them in the future.
Upstate hospitals don’t have a lot of excess ventilator capacity, so Cuomo’s plan is dangerous even in large upstate cities like Buffalo:
Republican politicians have lead the charge opposing Cuomo’s plan, joined by some Democrats like Rep. Brian Higgins:
A hastag has started, #UpstateLivesMatter:
mzkitty
I give up.
With Brian Epstein:
As Tears Go By: 4:31 -- a slice from a long time ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBpUf-TcIcg
Shadow
Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
I think this is what you are looking for.
https://www.jointcommission.org/-/m...vid19/public_statement_on_masks_from_home.pdf
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parsonswife
Veteran Member
I wonder if they are getting
I am wondering if they are getting higher viral loads since they seem invincible and are hanging out with others who are infected
Posted for fair use.....
More and more young people 'increasingly becoming severe victims of Covid-19'
Coronavirus has infected more than 38,000 people in the UK and killed more than 3,000 more, including a 13-year-old boy from Brixton, south London
Coronavirus: People in 30s and 40s 'increasingly becoming severe victims of Covid-19'
Coronavirus has infected more than 38,000 people in the UK and killed more than 3,000 more, including a 13-year-old boy from Brixton, south London
By Bradley JollyDigital journalist
More and more young people are becoming critically ill after contracting coronavirus, the World Health Organisation (WHO) has warned.
- 14:38, 4 APR 2020
- Updated14:53, 4 APR 2020
Some of these victims have no underlying health conditions and have needed intensive care.
Speaking at a press conference in Geneva yesterday, Dr Maria Van Kerkhove,....(rest behind paywall...HC)
I am wondering if they are getting higher viral loads since they seem invincible and are hanging out with others who are infected
parsonswife
Veteran Member
I wonder if they are getting
Posted for fair use.....
More and more young people 'increasingly becoming severe victims of Covid-19'
Coronavirus has infected more than 38,000 people in the UK and killed more than 3,000 more, including a 13-year-old boy from Brixton, south London
Coronavirus: People in 30s and 40s 'increasingly becoming severe victims of Covid-19'
Coronavirus has infected more than 38,000 people in the UK and killed more than 3,000 more, including a 13-year-old boy from Brixton, south
Countrymouse
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parsonswife
Veteran Member
DuDup
Yeah a week or two, thats what i consider almost done. OK HF please check back in 2-3 weeks and let me know then, if the rate is still skyrocketing or beginning to descend.
mourningdove
Pura Vida in my garden
Texas is blowing up
library lady
Veteran Member
Yes, now that you mention it I do recall. So, many omens ignored.
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Tristan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
We have a theory that a lower viral load may attenuate the onset of the virus, but as far as I know we have no data regarding this particular, product enhanced (novel) version.
They're invincible until they ain't. I'm wondering how many friends and family they're taking out with themselves...
marsh
On TB every waking moment
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nb...cC7Sy1-JSgIkDVX7wEnnNkveVLeIhcdMHI9anUktf89KY
SAN ANTONIO — President Trump has used emergency powers during the coronavirus pandemic to implement the kind of strict enforcement regime at the U.S. southern border he has long wanted, suspending laws that protect minors and asylum seekers so that the U.S. government can immediately deport them or turn them away.
Citing the threat of “mass, uncontrolled cross-border movement,” the president has shelved safeguards intended to protect trafficking victims and persecuted groups, implementing an expulsion order that sends migrants of all ages back to Mexico in an average of 96 minutes. U.S. Border Patrol agents do not perform medical checks when they encounter people crossing into the country.
Homeland Security officials say the measures are necessary to protect U.S. agents, health-care workers and the general public from the coronavirus. Tightening controls at the border and preventing potentially infected populations from streaming into the United States minimizes the number of detainees in U.S. immigration jails and border holding cells.
At a time when much of the nation is locked down, they say, strict border controls are an essential public health response, as each unmonitored crossing potentially exposes U.S. communities to what Trump has called an “invisible enemy.”
“Our nation’s top health-care officials are extremely concerned about the grave public health consequences of mass uncontrolled cross-border movement,” Trump said last month in announcing new immigration restrictions.
The border with Mexico and the huge steel barrier the president is building there — still under constant construction during the crisis — remain key campaign issues for the president. During White House briefings on the pandemic, Trump has repeatedly brought up his border wall project, unprompted, and has touted construction progress, overstating the number of miles crews have completed as he says he is fulfilling his 2016 campaign promise.
Trump has for years assailed U.S. immigration laws as too lenient, and the global pandemic has allowed the president to drop many of the policies and legal protections he calls the “worst immigration laws ever.” In their place, he has created a pilot test for the impact of the more draconian measures he has long advocated.
The most immediate impacts are that migrants who illegally cross the U.S. border are no longer taken to border stations where they would have the chance to file a claim for humanitarian protection and access to U.S. immigration courts, and some unaccompanied minors who typically would receive protection and shelter also are being turned away.
“We are appalled at the way things are being handled,” said Linda Rivas, director of the Las Americas Immigrant Advocacy Center in El Paso.
Some migrant advocates say they worry Trump will be slow to lift the emergency measures once the coronavirus outbreak is no longer a crisis.
“The border has always been a symbol in his larger worldview about dangers coming from the outside,” said Andrew Selee, director of the Migration Policy Institute in Washington. “The coronavirus may go away, but there’s a chance you could see these measures stay in place long after epidemic begins to recede.”
Illegal crossings plunge
In the past 10 days, illegal crossings along the Mexico border have plunged nearly 40 percent, returning to the lowest levels of Trump’s presidency, according to preliminary tallies by senior Customs and Border Protection officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the trends publicly.
Citing the emergency declaration from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Homeland Security officials have bypassed court-ordered due process protections for minors, asylum seekers and others as they return border-crossers to Mexico as quickly as possible. The migrants taken into custody now are tallied as “encounters” rather than “apprehensions,” and they are “expelled” from the country rather than formally deported.
CBP officials say their marching orders are to turn migrants around as fast as possible to minimize the risk of exposure to the virus. After running quick background checks on criminal records, agents gather the migrants’ biometric info at open-air field stations before loading them into vans and taking them to Mexico.
Under normal circumstances, underage migrants who arrive without a parent receive protection under U.S. anti-trafficking laws; they are typically routed to Department of Health and Human Services shelters until they can be safely placed with family members or guardians. Under Trump’s emergency orders, minors are being swiftly removed from the country, some of them flown back to Central America. Those who arrive with a grandparent or adult sibling are deported as part of a family group, despite the U.S. government’s insisting for years on a strict definition of family that is limited to biological parents and their minor children.
On Thursday, CBP did not refer any children to shelters overseen by HHS’s Office of Refugee Resettlement, the first time in recent memory that has occurred, according to the ORR.
Asylum seekers — those who say they are fleeing persecution in other countries — would normally get to make their case in court. Some of them would be allowed to stay in the United States, some would wait in Mexico, and some would be sent to other countries to claim asylum there. It was this category of migrants that drove a historic surge at the border last year, and there is now an even greater likelihood that these migrants will be deported back to the countries they are fleeing, or turned away without due process.
Asked to clarify the circumstances under which the emergency health orders — known as Title 42 — are applied, CBP declined to respond, saying the information would be used to bypass the nation’s immigration enforcement efforts.
“If specific circumstances guaranteeing exemptions from Title 42 expulsion were to be made public, they would be exploited by human smugglers,” said Matthew Dyman, a CBP spokesman.
According to an internal memo obtained by ProPublica, migrants would be ineligible for the expulsion orders if they “make an affirmative, spontaneous and reasonably believable claim they fear being tortured in the country they are sent back to.”
In those instances, agents must seek the approval of their supervisors before taking an asylum seeker back to a Border Patrol facility, according to the new rules, dubbed “Operation Capio.”
“This is an anomaly,” said one CBP official who was not authorized to speak publicly about the measures. “The norm is not applicable in this environment under these circumstances.”
© Matt Rourke/AP Protesters call for officials to release people from jails, prisons and immigration detention centers in response to the coronavirus, as they block traffic outside City Hall in Philadelphia on Monday.
Selee said the administration might be slow to lift the emergency measures even after the pandemic subsides. Governments around the world that have struggled with a surge of asylum claims could use the pandemic as a “back door” to toughen immigration laws and implement other restrictions, he said, “because it’s harder to question a health rationale.”
When he announced the new restrictions last month, Trump cited the threat of “mass global migration that would badly deplete the health-care resources needed for our people.” Mexico has confirmed fewer than 1,500 positive cases of the virus so far, less than 1 percent of the number in the United States, but testing there is not widely available. Many countries have seen major spikes in coronavirus cases just weeks after discovering their first few, as has happened in the United States.
“Every week, our border agents encounter thousands of unscreened, unvetted and unauthorized entries from dozens of countries. And we’ve had this problem for decades,” Trump said. “In normal times, these massive flows place a vast burden on our health-care system, but during a global pandemic, they threaten to create a perfect storm that would spread the infection to our border agents, migrants and to the public at large. Left unchecked, this would cripple our immigration system, overwhelm our health-care system, and severely damage our national security.”
Despite the recent drop in crossings, CBP officials and border agents say they fear a rush on the border if Mexican hospitals are overwhelmed, especially in the large border cities such as Ciudad Juárez and Tijuana that are home to millions of people, many of whom work in cramped assembly plants. The economic damage from the pandemic is likely to trigger millions of layoffs in Mexico and Central America, potentially creating new emigration pressures.
Encouraged to leave
U.S. and Mexican authorities say they are cooperating closely to secure the border. In an extraordinary step, Mexico is accepting the return of adults and families from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador who are “expelled.”
The Mexican government said it will accept those returns on a case-by-case basis, but in practice, it is taking back virtually everyone from those three nations in addition to Mexican nationals, CBP officials say. The four countries account for more than 85 percent of unlawful border-crossers into the United States.
U.S. and Mexican border authorities also have limited the traffic at the international bridges to essential travelers and commerce. Humanitarian groups have been urging migrants to leave border camps and relocate to areas with better sanitary and health conditions.
Mexican nationals and those expelled from the United States in recent days have been quickly loaded onto buses and taken to other Mexican states, advocates and attorneys say. It is unclear whether the people were encouraged or forced to board the buses, but Sister Norma Pimentel of Catholic Charities said it is part of a broader campaign by Mexican immigration officials to clear the border.
“There is an interest from the Mexican government to encourage people to leave and tell them it’s best they go,” Pimentel said.
Migrants said they are worried about the coronavirus outbreak but do not feel like they have many options. They do not want to leave the border area and miss appointments once U.S. immigration courts resume operations — whenever that happens. They said they fear Mexican authorities will coerce primarily Central American migrants to board buses without knowing where they are headed.
In Ciudad Juárez, migrants enrolled in the Migrant Protection Protocols program — known as “Remain in Mexico” — are continuing to arrive at U.S. ports of entry in the wee hours of the morning, unaware that their hearing dates have been rescheduled because court has been suspended.
Rivas, of El Paso’s Las Americas Immigrant Advocacy Center, said migrants are risking exposure waiting on bridges, where social distancing is impossible. Asylum seekers cannot be assured of a new hearing without walking to the bridge because authorities have not collected addresses or created a system to serve legal documents or notices to migrants waiting in Mexico, she said.
“That’s absurd,” Rivas said. “They’re given a piece of paper and told to go away.”
Everyone — sick children, asylum seekers with disabilities, and migrants in protected groups who are entitled to relief — is being rejected at ports of entry after the federal government effectively shut down the border to immigrants, Rivas said.
“We are going in blindfolded as we try to advocate because Border Patrol is unclear about their criteria,” Rivas said.
Physician Hannah Janeway of the Refugee Health Alliance has been working closely with shelters to prepare for the virus, but the conditions and tight quarters will make stopping the spread nearly impossible. The shelter spaces are difficult to keep clean, residents might not have regular access to showers, and space for quarantining high-risk migrants is limited. The local Mexican health system also is taxed.
"We created this situation at the border where there are thousands of people in these shelters waiting for their numbers to be called,” she said. “If people get sick in the shelters, their deaths are going to be our faults. They are in these conditions that will ultimately lead them to their deaths or severe disability. And why? Because they were scared enough to leave the only country they knew, to seek refuge.
Juárez’s shelters are at high risk for spreading the coronavirus, she said, and attorneys are having to navigate life-or-death decisions with their clients.
“We are going in blindfolded as we try to advocate because Border Patrol is unclear about their criteria,” Rivas said.
Physician Hannah Janeway of the Refugee Health Alliance has been working closely with shelters to prepare for the virus, but the conditions and tight quarters will make stopping the spread nearly impossible. The shelter spaces are difficult to keep clean, residents might not have regular access to showers, and space for quarantining high-risk migrants is limited. The local Mexican health system also is taxed.
"We created this situation at the border where there are thousands of people in these shelters waiting for their numbers to be called,” she said. “If people get sick in the shelters, their deaths are going to be our faults. They are in these conditions that will ultimately lead them to their deaths or severe disability. And why? Because they were scared enough to leave the only country they knew, to seek refuge.”