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CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Mississippi COVID-19 Case Map
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An interactive version of this case map is also available: View interactive Mississippi case map

About our case count: We currently update our map and statistics each morning with test results from the previous day. Outside laboratories also report positive test results to us, which are included our totals.

Mississippi COVID-19 Cases as of 6 p.m. March 24, 2020
New cases reported: 57

All Mississippi cases

CountyCasesDeaths
Adams20
Amite10
Attala40
Bolivar40
Calhoun10
Chickasaw60
Choctaw30
Clay10
Coahoma110
Copiah60
De Soto360
Forrest150
Franklin30
George10
Grenada20
Hancock51
Harrison250
Hinds380
Holmes71
Humphreys10
Itawamba30
Jackson120
Jones10
Lafayette80
Lamar20
Lawrence30
Leake30
Lee140
Leflore130
Lincoln40
Lowndes60
Madison170
Marion10
Marshall40
Monroe30
Montgomery40
Newton10
Noxubee10
Oktibbeha70
Panola20
Pearl River130
Perry10
Pike100
Pontotoc20
Prentiss10
Rankin200
Scott30
Simpson10
Smith10
Sunflower30
Tallahatchie20
Tate20
Tippah110
Tunica30
Union20
Walthall30
Washington50
Webster20
Wilkinson50
Winston30
Yazoo30
Total3772
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Los Angeles County Sheriff suspends efforts to close gun stores

Sheriff’s deputies in Los Angeles county are not forcing gun stores to close and “efforts to close non-essential businesses have been suspended,” according to a tweet from LASD Sheriff Alex Villanueva.

The department is requesting voluntary compliance with the public.

“CA Gov. Gavin Newsom to determine what qualifies as a non-essential business,” continued Sheriff Villanueva’s tweet.

Last week, he said buying guns in this climate is a bad idea and encouraged current gun owners to lock up their weapons properly.
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like I said, once business discovers that there is money to be made, they will stay open and reopen. And there goes shelter in place. Did not take long.
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I would not go cold turkey and just stop taking it, but if you have the home machine to monitor your BP numbers (not expensive), and if you started to wean off the ace inhibitor bit by bit while constantly monitoring BP.....

well, I'm not a medical guy, and I would never give anyone medical advice other than consult with your doctor....

but maybe there is a dosage that would keep BP down (a pill every 2 or 3 days?) and not overly raise the complications from virus risk? (which we are not even sure about, but data suggests a correlation).

No health professionals would ever tell us to do this, of course.

Just pondering possibilities. None of this is advice. My doctorate is not in medicine. Nor is it in anything else. :)
You could be right--that said, instructions say not to miss a day. Not sure how problematic refills are going to be, given expected sourcing.
 

bsharp

Veteran Member
Fauci (and Trump) keep talking about the areas of the country that are not like New York, and that it's possible those areas that aren't hot spots can go about normal activities. Fauci said, "We need to look at the areas of the country that don't have obvious outbreaks and consider that those aren't going to be like New York." Call me simple, but maybe they're just lagging behind because they don't have as many international travelers as New York??
Iowa’s governor does her press conferences live on Facebook. Listeners are commenting and begging her to formally close down and shelter in place. Fauci mentioned iowa as one with fewer cases, but thought I would share what Iowans are asking.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Is Lulu reading the Bill? She's pissed:

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New York & NYC, read here:

 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Poor guy was probably just trying to find dinner for his family. The river is the grocery store for many native peoples across the world. Runaway shopping carts aren't the only danger "shoppers" face.
 
In one Italian town, we showed mass testing could eradicate the coronavirus

By identifying and isolating clusters of infected people, we wiped out Covid-19 in Vò
Andrea Crisanti and Antonio Cassone
Fri 20 Mar 2020 03.00 EDT Last modified on Fri 20 Mar 2020 08.05 EDT

People line up to undergo a voluntary test for coronavirus in Vò, Italy, 8 March 2020.
People line up to undergo a voluntary test for coronavirus in Vò, Italy, 8 March 2020. Photograph: Andrea Casalis/AP

It’s now about one month since Covid-19 began to sweep across Italy. With more than total cases topping 40,000 as of 19 March, it is now the worst-affected country outside of China.

But in the last two weeks, a promising pilot study here has produced results that may be instructive for other countries trying to control coronavirus.

Beginning on 6 March , along with researchers at the University of Padua and the Red Cross, we tested all residents of Vò, a town of 3,000 inhabitants near Venice – including those who did not have symptoms.

This allowed us to quarantine people before they showed signs of infection and stop the further spread of coronavirus. In this way, we eradicated coronavirus in under 14 days.


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Scientists say mass tests in Italian town have halted Covid-19 there

While we believe it is too late to enact this approach in a city such as Milan, where infections are out of control, there could still be time to do this in the UK before the crisis gets even worse: the government could identify and isolate clusters, quarantine everyone affected, trace their recent contacts, and quarantine and isolate them, too – whether they had symptoms or not.

Our experiment came to be by chance. The Italian authorities had a strong emotional reaction to news of the country’s first death – which was in Vò. The whole town was put into quarantine and every inhabitant was tested. The tests were processed by us at the University of Padua. It became clear that this was a unique epidemiological setting – and an application was put in to keep the town in lockdown and run a second round of tests after nine days.

In the first round of testing, 89 people tested positive. In the second round, the number had dropped to six, who remained in isolation. In this way, we managed to eradicate coronavirus from Vò, achieving a 100% recovery rate for those previously infected while recording no further cases of transmission.

We made an interesting finding: at the time the first symptomatic case was diagnosed, a significant proportion of the population, about 3%, had already been infected – yet most of them were completely asymptomatic. Our study established a valuable principle: testing of all citizens, whether or not they have symptoms, provides a way to control this pandemic.

The nature of this crisis means that establishing a structured response like this is key, while widespread testing is crucial in telling an accurate story of how many people are affected, and what the mortality rate of the virus actually is. In Italy, we have struggled with a rampant rise of mortality (the number of casualties divided by the number of infected people), which has reached an apparent value of 8% – far higher than the mortality rate in China and grimly close to that during the 2002-2003 Sars outbreak.

This high rate is misleading, though. After the first few days of the initial outbreak, cases were classed as all of those found to be infected by the virus. Yet since then, only the obviously symptomatic subjects – those needing medical care – have been tested for the virus and thus counted as cases.

The decision to only test those who presented for treatment with symptoms of the virus was taken by major Italian public health experts, apparently in line with World Health Organization (WHO) suggestions. The consequence has been that people who haven’t asked for medical attention have only been tested very occasionally in Italy. Nonetheless, asymptomatic or quasi-symptomatic subjects represent a good 70% of all virus-infected people and, still worse, an unknown, yet impossible to ignore portion of them can transmit the virus to others. Full testing would give us a clearer picture of how many people actually have the virus, and how many pass it on.

If the fact that only those presenting with the virus were being tested was accounted for, the mortality percentage would fall to more “normal” levels. This is shown by the mortality in the Veneto region, which is steadily around 2.5-3%, still high but threefold less than the ones in Lombardy and Emilia-Romagna.

Why this marked difference? Veneto is comparable to the other two northern regions for education, general lifestyle, personal income and age of the population – all factors, particularly the last one, believed to influence Covid-19 mortality.

Although a non-homogeneous data collection and other variables could explain the difference, there is one main factor that is likely playing a role. In Veneto, the virus was more actively sought out through testing, a programme that included part of the asymptomatic population. Official numbers speak of roughly eight in every 100 people tested in Veneto, against about half and one-third of that proportion in Lombardy and Emila-Romagna, respectively.

Unfortunately, it would be near impossible to repeat this model in a large city, due to the number of people who would need to be tested. However, our findings warrant careful consideration by health policymakers in Italy and around the world. They invite researchers to eradicate the virus through extensive testing of both symptomatic individuals and all of their social contacts – including relatives, friends and neighbours. In this way, we catch out the disease before it has the chance to spread – and, most importantly, before the carrier has the chance to unwittingly pass it on to other people.

In the absence of specific therapies or a vaccine, quarantine, distancing and identification of asymptomatic carriers remain the only real measures to control this epidemic. In the UK, authorities could still identify and isolate clusters, and test everyone who has come into contact with those infected. Wisely, though probably belatedly, WHO has just this week recommended what we have found in our research to be the best line of defence: testing, testing, testing.

• Andrea Crisanti is professor of microbiology at the University of Padua; Antonio Cassone is a former director of the department of infectious diseases at the Italian institute of health

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LSV

Contributing Member
3 sailors aboard aircraft carrier test positive for coronavirus while at sea for 15 days
From CNN's Barbara Starr and Ryan Browne


The USS Theodore Roosevelt anchors off the coast of Gosport, England on March 23, 2015.

The USS Theodore Roosevelt anchors off the coast of Gosport, England on March 23, 2015. Dan Kitwood/Getty Images/FILE

Three sailors aboard the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt have tested positive for coronavirus and have been flown to a military medical facility for treatment, the acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly said Tuesday.

“Three cases of COVID19 have been identified among personnel currently deployed and underway on the USS Theodore Roosevelt, these are our first three cases of COVID19 on a ship that is deployed,“ Modly said.
my future son in law is on that ship, my daughter (also in the Navy) Is worried sick :(
Lisa
 

jward

passin' thru

bw

Fringe Ranger
You could be right--that said, instructions say not to miss a day. Not sure how problematic refills are going to be, given expected sourcing.

Taking a drug requires that you have medical support, either a doctor and/or a pharmacy able to supply. If you lack those, you have to consider the effect of cold-turkey withdrawal. When to taper (so as to minimize the system shock) is a personal decision. NOT to taper may be suicidal, depending on the drug. People need to study the situation and make their own decisions.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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LOL, It looks like all of you Lithuanians and Eskimos are on your own.

Fair Use Cited
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Milwaukee health officials target ‘mainly the African American community’ to stop COVID-19

Posted 4:59 pm, March 24, 2020, by Hannah Jewell, Updated at 06:00PM, March 24, 2020

MILWAUKEE -- Milwaukee health officials on Monday, March 23 said a majority of the positive COVID-19 cases live on Milwaukee's north side, and that they planned on sending outreach teams into neighborhoods to ask people to go home in an effort to stop the spread.

"I wanna make sure that our residents, particularly on the northern part of the city, are listening to what I'm saying," said Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett. "Please, please, please do everything you can to keep your distance, literally, from other individuals. I know it's very difficult when you say, don't touch your face, not to touch your face, but please understand that there's very basic things we can do to prevent disease."

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Milwaukee Health Commissioner Jeanette Kowalik announced the start of educational outreach efforts in areas with the highest number of COVID-19 cases reported -- Milwaukee's north and south side.

"The Health Department has created outreach that will go out to those communities, mainly the African American community, which is where we are seeing the most cases right now in the City of Milwaukee," said Kowalik.

Health officials noted the quicker everyone follows the guidelines set forth by the CDC and other officials -- frequent hand washing, social distancing, and simply staying home, the quicker we can get back to enjoying barbecues, sports gatherings, and socializing without a screen. Officials said it will take the help of every individual.

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Milwaukee Mayor: Tom "Seldom Seen" Barrett

"You're going to see that people in their 20s, 30s, 40s, are the ones that are the age groups that are having the highest prevalence of COVID-19 positive testing," said Kowalik. "That means they are the carriers."

Mayor Barrett noted those not following government orders and CDC guidelines pose a huge risk to others.

"Staying at home will be our best path forward," said Barrett.

Kowalik said the outreach workers would be talking with residents about social distancing and hygiene.

 
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adgal

Veteran Member
LOL, It looks like all of you Lithuanians and Eskimos are on your own.

Fair Use Cited
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Milwaukee health officials target ‘mainly the African American community’ to stop COVID-19

Posted 4:59 pm, March 24, 2020, by Hannah Jewell, Updated at 06:00PM, March 24, 2020

MILWAUKEE -- Milwaukee health officials on Monday, March 23 said a majority of the positive COVID-19 cases live on Milwaukee's north side, and that they planned on sending outreach teams into neighborhoods to ask people to go home in an effort to stop the spread.

"I wanna make sure that our residents, particularly on the northern part of the city, are listening to what I'm saying," said Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett. "Please, please, please do everything you can to keep your distance, literally, from other individuals. I know it's very difficult when you say, don't touch your face, not to touch your face, but please understand that there's very basic things we can do to prevent disease."

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Milwaukee Health Commissioner Jeanette Kowalik announced the start of educational outreach efforts in areas with the highest number of COVID-19 cases reported -- Milwaukee's north and south side.

"The Health Department has created outreach that will go out to those communities, mainly the African American community, which is where we are seeing the most cases right now in the City of Milwaukee," said Kowalik.

Health officials noted the quicker everyone follows the guidelines set forth by the CDC and other officials -- frequent hand washing, social distancing, and simply staying home, the quicker we can get back to enjoying barbecues, sports gatherings, and socializing without a screen. Officials said it will take the help of every individual.

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Milwaukee Mayor: Tom "Seldom Seen" Barrett

"You're going to see that people in their 20s, 30s, 40s, are the ones that are the age groups that are having the highest prevalence of COVID-19 positive testing," said Kowalik. "That means they are the carriers."

Mayor Barrett noted those not following government orders and CDC guidelines pose a huge risk to others.

"Staying at home will be our best path forward," said Barrett.

Kowalik said the outreach workers would be talking with residents about social distancing and hygiene.

Isn't this racist?!?!? :D :eek::groucho:
 

mzkitty

I give up.
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Breaking: USPS Priority Mail Guarantee Suspensions
March 24, 2020/in Reducing Transportation Costs /by Tony Nuzio

Priority Mail Express International Guarantee Suspension to Certain European Countries beginning March 23, 2020
Effective March 23, 2020, the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) will be temporarily suspending the guarantee on Priority Mail Express International due to airline travel restrictions and widespread airline cancellations destined for the following countries:
  • France
  • Great Britain
  • Spain
  • Sweden
  • Switzerland
In addition, the temporary suspension of the guarantee on Priority Mail Express International destined for China and Hong Kong, which has been effective since Monday, Feb. 10, 2020, is still in effect.

These suspensions will be in effect until further notice. The Postal Service is undertaking all reasonable measures to minimize the impact to our customers.

Please contact: Ashok Parasuram (Ashok.Parasuram@usps.gov) if you have questions.

 

forpetesake

Senior Member
Does anyone have the link to the study that showed effectiveness of a home made mask made out of t shirts? How many layers was it? Thanks everyone!

fps
 

goosebeans

Veteran Member
I started taking Lisinopril last month, also a low dose, after months of trying to convince my primary care MD that it was just stress and anxiety due to a seriously ill family member. It is, at least most of it, but that doesn't lessen the damage HBP can do. Do not stop taking your meds without speaking with your MD!!

I've read articles that say it can negatively and positively affect the nasties with coronavirus - they don't really seem to know. You do know, though, what HBP can and often does do. Not a good time to be having a stroke...no time is a good time.

I know this is anecdotal, but a friend of a friend was managing to stay off BP meds by taking Hawthorn Extract.

 

DragonBurrow

Contributing Member
If they are using the FEMA structure, Colorado needs to declare a state emergency to access assistance. Just like Katrina and Louisiana, this means detailing from the local level up exactly what resources in what quantity are needed. They also must justify that they have exhausted local resources. (In floods and fire, that is exceeding a certain dollar damage/expenditure minimum.)
Part of what is crazy is that Trump actually lifted the use local rule. So it is literally just get it together and ask.
We actually did get federal PPE and the Governor has done nothing but complain about it. Not enough blah blah blah. We are at the beginning of our curve so not in the top 5, so what. Our actions have boiled down to don’t sit down to eat at restaurants. The end. Why should they help more if all we do is whine about what we do get and don’t do anything to help ourselves?
Our governor is making things worse and that we just don’t need.
 

DragonBurrow

Contributing Member
I know we've re-hashed this to death, but with all the news coming out of Italy, and some of the other hot zones in the US, I just can't figure those people out. How they still think flu is worse. Do they just not watch or read any news? Or do they know, but it doesn't serve their agenda? I like Rush Limbaugh and I've always thought he was an astute person, but he is one of those people who think it's a nothingberger and is just some vast left-wing conspiracy to bring down Trump. I know some really intelligent, conservative, liberty loving people in the the meat world who are blowing this off. I find it most perplexing. Mind boggling actually.
People want to compare the end of the flu season to the beginning of the COVID season and until you can get them to compare evenly nothing is going to change this talk track.
 

Bubble Head

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Part of what is crazy is that Trump actually lifted the use local rule. So it is literally just get it together and ask.
We actually did get federal PPE and the Governor has done nothing but complain about it. Not enough blah blah blah. We are at the beginning of our curve so not in the top 5, so what. Our actions have boiled down to don’t sit down to eat at restaurants. The end. Why should they help more if all we do is whine about what we do get and don’t do anything to help ourselves?
Our governor is making things worse and that we just don’t need.

Understatement. He acts like it is his personnel pity party. He does not lead but a picture of him in his office look like he is actually sucking his thumb. What a poor choice for a governor Colorado made. He is a total do nothing. He is not coordinating with CU Medical or National Jewish. Two of the best groups of Doctors in the world. The head of CU Emergency Medical came out today and said the next 72 hours will determine our next 18 months. I had to dig through a bunch of Public Radio garbage to find that. Why the Governor was not informing and leading while this is being discussed in the Medical Community leaves me with two conclusions. He never had it to be a leader and he was deliberately placed in his position for the current circumstances. He doesn't even have the gumption to pick up the phone and call CU Medical to find out how to get more doses of Hydroxycloroquine made if necessary. It just shows him walking out of his office hanging his head. Like I am suppose to feel sorry for this wantabe POS.
 
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