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Rebel_Yell

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Oxford Study: Coronavirus May Have Already Infected Half of U.K. Population

By Matt Stieb




Because testing regimens across the world have varied tremendously, the actual mortality and hospitalization rates of COVID-19 have been hard to pin down. But modeling by researchers at the University of Oxford could provide some welcome good news, even if the initial takeaway doesn’t seem so promising. According to a team from Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease lab, half of the population of the United Kingdom may have already been infected with the coronavirus. If this modeling is confirmed in follow-up studies, that would mean that fewer than .01 percent of those infected require hospital treatment, with a majority showing very minor symptoms, or none at all.


According to the modeling, the coronavirus arrived in mid-January at the latest, and spread undetected for over a month before the first cases were confirmed. Based on a susceptibility-infected-recovery model — a commonly used estimate in epidemiology — with data from case and death reports in the U.K. and Italy, the researchers determined that the initial “herd immunity” strategy of the U.K. government could have been sound. “I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model,” said lead researcher Sunetra Gupta, referring to an academic report predicting that up to 250,000 could be killed if the government maintained its plan to suppress the virus “but not get rid of it completely,” as the country’s chief scientific adviser put it. As of Monday, 87 people in the United Kingdom had died from the coronavirus; out of a total of 90,436 tests, 8,077 were positive.


To see if their math checks out, the Oxford team is now working with researchers at the Universities of Cambridge and Kent to begin antibody testing as soon as this week. “We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys — antibody testing — to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now,” Gupta told the Financial Times.


In an interview with New York’s James Walsh, Pulitzer-winning infectious disease reporter Laurie Garrett explained the public-health necessity of antibody tests:



The most important thing is that that test can be a public-health tool. If we had this antibody test, we can go around randomly selecting people in New York City and find out how many New Yorkers, including right now, have had this virus in their bodies. Since we know the virus has never been in human beings before, anybody who has antibodies against it has been exposed since January.

If we can get this antibody test mass-produced — and I know they’re working on it right now — and put it into commercialization really quickly, this could be a game-changer for the whole pandemic. One of the things we would love to know right now is how many people who have had pneumonia since January were actually COVID cases? Having answers to that question would make a difference on a policy level. If we were suddenly seeing a surge in hidden pneumonia cases since mid-February, that would tell us we’re in deep, deep doo-doo; that this thing is like Italy; that we’re going to suddenly skyrocket and our hospitals are going to be overwhelmed. But if, by contrast, the same number of cases are found in the historic samples going back to the first of January, that would tell us, “Okay, it’s gradually unfolding, we don’t have to go down to lockdown every single person in New York, we may be able to flatten the curve.” And that makes a big difference in terms of how drastic our policies need to be.

Though the Oxford modeling seems promising, like all academic studies reckoning with the coronavirus, it should be read by the public with caution. If antibody tests did not prove the epidemiologists’ findings, the modeling could undercut the success of social distancing measures that public-health experts consider vital to stopping the spread of the virus. It does, in all likelihood, reveal the Trump administration’s errors in making trillion-dollar stimulus decisions without having the epidemiological understanding that proper rates of testing would provide.
 

Bubble Head

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the most interesting thing about the map? it was mostly empty 30 days ago
So was Colorado and the I-70 Corona alley. Same thing happened here as Italy. Actually first ID case flew from northern Italy through DIA to Summit County to ski. Northern Italy has a huge influx of people to ski the Alps. It spread. Italy came to Colorado to ski and it spread. Don't do I-80 and especially I-70. Not safe to use the facilities.
 

marsh

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OPINION

Republicans want a lifeline; Democrats want to remake the country
By David Harsanyi
March 23, 2020 | 4:28pm | Updated
US Capitol

SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images

The cynical partisan opportunism of Democrats exhibited during the coronavirus economic crisis has been breathtaking.

Rather than move forward with a quick, no-frills, massive $1.8 trillion rescue plan, Democrats decided to hold the country hostage by trying to cram through a slew of lefty goodies that have absolutely nothing to do with the pending economic crisis.

As corporate boards struggle to figure out ways to keep their companies afloat, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is demanding that they spend time filling gender and racial quotas, down to “subcommittee assignments.”

As the transportation sector wrestles with a once-in-a-century economic disaster, Democrats are trying to compel airlines — which have seen a 90 percent drop in customers — to cut greenhouse gas emissions every year until they hit a 50 percent reduction.

If Pelosi keeps this up, airlines are going to see a 100 percent reduction soon enough.

As small businesses lay off workers, Democrats held up a federal loan program so they can pass more wind and solar tax credits, fund NASA’s environmental restoration group and study climate mitigation efforts. How is any of that going to save jobs? What does this have to do with coronavirus shutdowns?

As millions of Americans are filing for unemployment benefits, crushing state government budgets, Democrats held up a rescue bill so that they can give government employee unions extraordinary collective bargaining power.

As millions of Americans wonder how they’re going to make their next mortgage payments, Pelosi demands that the Senate offer free internet, fund community newspapers and set up minority-run banks.

As hospitals wait for funding, Pelosi is worried about national minority and gender pay equity — an age-old liberal hobbyhorse. By prioritizing affirmative action over rescue funds, she is ensuring that more Americans of all races, genders and creeds will be unemployed.

Rather than move quickly, Pelosi is demanding that the Senate federalize elections, setting up same-day voter registrations and provisions for conducting audits of elections.
Dr. Anthony Fauci will ‘keep pushing’ with Trump despite disagreements
The GOP Senate bill was 500 pages. The Pelosi bill I read was 1,120 pages. Reportedly, there is another version of the rescue bill circulating that is 1,400 pages. Who knows how many more political pet projects will be stuffed into this iteration of the bill.

“This is a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision,” Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-SC) reportedly told his colleagues this week, echoing President Barack Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel’s famous 2008 assertion that Democrats should never let a serious crisis go to waste.

The Senate bill that Democrats stopped would have given nearly every American $1,200, with $500 for every child. It would have allocated $250 billion for unemployment insurance, $350 billion for a small business loan program, more than $100 billion to hospitals, $11 billion toward vaccines, $4.5 billion more to the CDC, $20 billion to veterans’ health care, $12 billion for public education, another $10 billion to airports, and $5 billion to FEMA.

This debate isn’t over a bailout package, it’s over a rescue mission.

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The coronavirus pandemic was an unexpected existential event, not a normal economic downturn. And yet Democrats have calculated that it was worth using this emergency to try to shove through an agenda that would never normally pass. It is ugly, partisan and opportunistic.
 

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I apologize if this has already been posted, but I quit trying to keep up weeks ago because there was too much.



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#Alabama NICU nurse tests positive for #coronavirus. Now a baby is in isolation. Emmarie was taken to a different room after a nurse tested positive for coronavirus & is being isolated as a precaution. #covid19 #CoronaVirusUpdate

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Prayers for Emmarie
 

Bubble Head

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This is my area and all we are hearing right now is that Trump hates Colorado and refuses to help, or won't help enough and that there really isn't anything to see here. There is some kind of media muzzle too, because we had a lot of almost hourly updates and now we are doing well to get a couple a day and they just say the same things again. That is probably the spookiest part and we being the Shelter In Place orders all over the metro area.

I to noticed how dark we went. The NG has been positioned all over the state to help with test but no test results are being given to the media. News has come to a crawl compared to last Saturday. I think the numbers are well over a thousand and Governor BendOver is about to pull some kind of block the main roads with the Guard. You can not trust that commie and his Boulder commies. They run this state for themselves and damn the rest of us.
 

Silverfox

TWTFS
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AToF8O5T86s
about 5 min in to 10:30 min video previously posted
Coronavirus Pandemic Update 39: Rapid COVID-19 Spread with Mild or No Symptoms, More on Treatment - Medcram

Oh, I see you want to "MEDCRAM" me. Been watching since January something, along with Peak Prosperity. How do you like me now- MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained Clearly

btw, you will have to sign up with MEDCRAM to view all the lessons on Ventilator Operations IT'S FREE, for this course.

But why bother, whose gonna manage to stumble across a Ventilator, Oxygen tanks, and the pressure regulator to connect to the machine. Oh, I know, MillRight, how bout we just use some Oxygen tanks from a welding set? Not! But if there's a diver in the house maybe. . . . With a tig welded stainless steel adapter.

None the less, this is a great video series for techies like my self, HFCOMMS, and other technocrats to feed our appetite for data while it's still available.

Fox.
 

Silverfox

TWTFS
Did the Chinks sacrifice a city (Wuhan) and several million inhabitants to weaken and depopulate a large portion of the rest of the world while appearing innocent or inept?

Flame on
No. Never attempt to use a weapon you're unfamiliar with. They had a Level 4 bio weapons lab that was copied from stolen diagrams. No experience to construct, so in 9 days they built a facility that was leaky as a Russian Sub with a screen door on it.

TWTFS.
 

Bubble Head

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Can anyone tell me how the Governor of Nevada can Ban a drug prescribed by a Medical Doctor. That turd don't float but he looks like he could. He is not an MD and not licensed to practice medicine.

On a brighter note National Jewish in Denver has developed its own test with near immediate results for the virus. They told the Politburo to stick it and did what Doctors do. They are administering to themselves first and all their patients They will then begin to offer it to the Public and other Hospitals. I know one of the key Doctors on critical pulmonary care staff. I doubt she has rested and she is like a bull in a china closet with bureaucrats. She did not become a top Doctor to listen to some elected yahoo try to tell her what to do.
 

Bubble Head

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No. Never attempt to use a weapon you're unfamiliar with. They had a Level 4 bio weapons lab that was copied from stolen diagrams. No experience to construct, so in 9 days they built a facility that was leaky as a Russian Sub with a screen door on it.

TWTFS.

Pretty much sums up the state of Chinese Communist affairs and our greed.
 

marsh

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HSU Sent Buses to Pick Up Students From L.A. and S.F., Where COVID-19 is Spreading, and Brought Them Back to Campus
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Screenshot from a website tracking global cases of COVID-19, maintained by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University.
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This past Saturday, March 21, a bus chartered by Humboldt State University picked up 31 students in Los Angeles and San Francisco and brought them back to campus in Arcata.

Both of those metropolitan areas have seen alarming outbreaks of COVID-19 in recent weeks, with more than 500 confirmed cases and eight deaths in Los Angeles County and more than 900 cases and 16 deaths in the Bay Area.
Health officials in both regions — and indeed across the country — say the actual number of cases is almost certainly much higher; the limited number of tests available in the United States has prevented more comprehensive detection. (That’s a problem in Humboldt County, too.)

These bus trips were part of the university’s Homeward Bound program, which offers students discounted round-trip tickets each year during breaks in the spring, fall and winter.

According to HSU Communications Specialist Grant Scott-Goforth, two buses carrying 89 students left for San Francisco and Los Angeles back on March 14, two days after administrators suspended face-to-face instruction and three days before President Tom Jackson closed the campus to the public and encouraged students living in the dorms to return to their off-campus homes. [Disclosure: Scott-Goforth is a former coworker and personal friend of mine.]

While many of those students chose to remain in either San Francisco or L.A., more than a third of them returned on Saturday’s bus ride back to Humboldt.
While they were gone, the state of the coronavirus outbreak in California changed dramatically. Shelter-in-place orders were implemented in a number of individual counties, including Humboldt, before Gov. Gavin Newsom announced a statewide order on Thursday.

With new local cases of COVID-19 being confirmed amid the exponential spread around the globe, the public is on edge. At least one HSU employee was scared when he heard that students were being brought back to campus from COVID-19 hotspots.

“Are they trying to infect us up here? I mean really?” the employee said in a message to the Outpost. “Our tiny health system can’t handle this if one student were to come back and infect the local area.” [This person asked to remain anonymous to avoid repercussions at work.]

In an email to the Outpost, Scott-Goforth said government and community responses to the COVID-19 outbreak have evolved quickly, and these students were offered rides before state and local health agencies implemented stricter guidelines.

“So we had a responsibility to offer them return trips — though we encouraged them, as we have all students, to stay out of the area/off campus if possible,” Scott-Goforth said. “For many students, Humboldt County is their home. We cannot simply evict them from the county or the campus.”

On Monday, the university posted a list of health and travel-related guidelines based on information from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The guidelines say, in part, that any student returning from an area with community-level spread of COVID-19 should stay off-campus for 14 days and self-isolate at home.

Students returning to the dorms are encouraged to contact the university’s housing office before they get back to campus so staff can provide separate housing for their roommates.

But the guidelines are just advisory; the university isn’t enforcing them, according to Scott-Goforth: “UPD [the University Police Department] could potentially enforce social distancing guidelines in public spaces per the county order. But most of our students are adults who we are expecting to follow state and local guidelines.”

He added that the university is prepared to accommodate students who request separate housing. Due to privacy issues, he said, the university can’t say whether any of the students on the bus returned to the dorms, or whether any have requested separate housing.

The university is still encouraging students to return home and stay there, if possible. Three more buses left for San Francisco or L.A. this morning, and this time the tickets were one-way, Scott-Goforth said. Twenty-eight students were aboard.
 

marsh

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Dem Rep. Told Colleagues Coronavirus Bill Is ‘Tremendous Opportunity to Restructure Things to Fit Our Vision’

Tobias Hoonhout
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National ReviewMarch 23, 2020


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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) worked to scupper the phase-three coronavirus relief package on Sunday after Majority Whip James Clyburn (D., S.C.) told caucus members last week that the bill was “a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.”

Clyburn’s comments came on a Thursday call featuring more than 200 House Democrats, during which caucus members laid out a list of provisions they wanted to be included in the Senate’s trillion-dollar package.

Republicans have said that Democrats have reportedly demanded increased bargaining powers for unions, as well as environmental regulations for airlines and more wind and solar tax credits.

A bit of a clap back from republicans. pic.twitter.com/8iiwtHs4HC
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) March 23, 2020

Pelosi flew into Washington, D.C. over the weekend to add demands to negotiations, a move that Senate Republicans have cited as the reason why the procedural vote to fast-track the legislation fell by a party-line vote on Sunday night.

Speaking after the vote, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) slammed Democrats for playing politics in a time of crisis.

“All of a sudden, the Democratic leader and the speaker of the House shows up and we’re back to square one,” McConnell said, saying the shift amounted to “obstruction.”

“We’re fiddling here, fiddling with the emotions of the American people, fiddling with the markets, fiddling with our health care. The American people expect us to act tomorrow,” McConnell said. “And I want everybody to fully understand if we aren’t able to act, it’ll be because of our colleagues on the other side continuing to dicker when the country expects us to come together and address this problem.
 

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Peeps manufacturer shutting down production amid coronavirus outbreak

Alexandra Deabler

By Alexandra Deabler | Fox News

Not a Peep will be made beginning March 25.

Just Born, the candy manufacturer that makes Peeps among other candies, announced that it is temporarily suspending production in Philadelphia and Bethlehem, Pa., due to the “rapidly evolving COVID-19 situation.”
Just Born, the candy manufacturer that makes Peeps, among other candies, announced that it is temporarily suspending production.

Just Born, the candy manufacturer that makes Peeps, among other candies, announced that it is temporarily suspending production. (Photo by Stephen Lovekin/WireImag

The classic Easter candy will halt production beginning 6:30 a.m. Wednesday, and the suspension will be in effect until at least April 7, the brand shared in a press release.

However, there is a silver pastel-colored lining to the announcement — the marshmallow treats earmarked for this season have already been made.
“All of our PEEPS® have been produced and shipped to retailers for this upcoming Easter season.”

“We do have inventory of MIKE AND IKE®, HOT TAMALES® and GOLDENBERG’S® PEANUT CHEWS® for the short term but may experience [out-of-stocks] on several individual items," the statement continued. "We will continue to work with our retail partners to ensure that the fans of our brands can continue to enjoy them during this challenging time,” the statement read.
 

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Los Angeles Times and Bloomberg News: Federal stockpile of N95 masks was depleted under Obama and never restocked
by Emma Colton
| March 23, 2020 10:23 AM

The national shortage of N95 respirator masks can be traced back to 2009 after the H1N1 swine flu pandemic, when the Obama administration was advised to replenish a national stockpile but did not, according to reports from Bloomberg News and the Los Angeles Times.

The Trump administration is scrambling to replenish a stockpile of protective medical gear for healthcare workers and patients as the coronavirus sweeps across the nation. N95 respirator masks are one of the most needed medical supplies amid the outbreak.

The George W. Bush administration published the National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza plan in 2005, which called on the federal government to distribute medical supplies from the Strategic National Stockpile governed by the Health and Human Services Department in the event of an outbreak.

In 2009, the H1N1 outbreak hit the United States, leading to 274,304 hospitalizations, 12,469 deaths, and a depletion of N95 respirator masks.
A federally backed task force and a safety equipment organization both recommended to the Obama administration that the stockpile be replenished with the 100 million masks used after the H1N1 outbreak.

Charles Johnson, president of the International Safety Equipment Association, said that advice was never heeded.

“Our association is unaware of any major effort to restore the stockpile to cover that drawdown,” he said.

HHS Secretary Alex Azar reported last month that only 12 million N95 masks were available in the stockpile, “a tiny fraction of the 3.5 billion masks one of Azar’s deputies later testified the nation’s healthcare system would need,” the Los Angeles Times noted.

Bloomberg News reported similar findings last week, noting, "After the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog [of] orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply.”

Bloomberg reported that the Trump administration had asked construction companies to "donate their inventory of N95 masks to your local hospital and forgo additional orders of those industrial masks” and the Defense Department would provide 5 million N95 masks and 2,000 ventilators to help bridge the gap.
Johns Hopkins University’s coronavirus tracker reported 35,225 confirmed COVID-19 cases in the U.S. as of Monday.

Vice President Mike Pence, who heads the administration’s coronavirus task force, said on Sunday that a quarter-million people had been tested for the virus, with 9 out of 10 people testing negative.

"The FDA is working with manufacturers around the company to come up with faster, more innovative tests," he said.
 

LoupGarou

Ancient Fuzzball
Did the Chinks sacrifice a city (Wuhan) and several million inhabitants to weaken and depopulate a large portion of the rest of the world while appearing innocent or inept?

Flame on

Yes.

I'm betting that they are getting tired of holding our debt, have realized that they are getting to the point of needing more room (more land) or less people (especially the pesky protesting ones), have realized that their takeover of South and Central America as well as Africa is not going as fast as they planned and have hoped to get most of this taken care of by the virus release. After all, if they can cripple us (the west) hard enough while leaving both South/Central America and Africa relatively healthy, they can then use those groups as "external force assistance" when the west looks like it is about to plunge into darkness.

Ask yourself why they are heavy into most South/Central American countries, and why arms production down there is at an all time high, while the people aren't there to use those arms locally (you don't see those AK47/103's (and other playtoys) going to the public in Venezuela...). How much do you want to bet that we have some group (like Antifa) that gets bent because they don't get "their guy" on the platform, and they start rioting in the streets of certain mid-america towns. Get enough started there, and few will notice the upsurge flying across the border or the activity around the Cuba to Florida area. Any idea where those Chinese subs are at the moment? How about the Kanyon/Status-6 units (any of the dozen or so of them that were made)? Or how about they don't hand deliver the hundreds of thousands of AKs one at a time as they cross the boarder, but instead ship them up via one of the routes, and hand them out to "forces" already inside the country.

All sorts of possibilities, and they have had a lot of time to plan, and a LOT of help from the inside via the swamp.

Loup
 
People who suffer from hypertension appear to be very susceptible to the coronavirus, according to figures from Italy’s epidemiology institute.

The institute is releasing details about who is dying from the disease in Italy, which has seen the most fatalities of any country. One of the interesting details refers to the victims’ underlying health conditions, so-called comorbidities.

The data up to 20 March shows that almost 75% of people who died suffered from hypertension, or high blood pressure. Almost 34% had diabetes. Only 1.2 % of cases had no comorbidities.


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Photograph: Epicentro ISS
The data shows the vast majority are aged over 70.


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Employees eat their lunch while staying 2 meters away from each other at the Dongfeng Fengshen plant in Wuhan, Hubei province, China where the coronavirus outbreak started. Wuhan has allowed car producers and auto part suppliers to resume work recently. Photograph: Getty Images

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marsh

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‘This Is Not A Game’: Perdue Farms Workers Walk Out Over Coronavirus Concerns
March 24, 2020 at 12:58 pm

KATHLEEN, Ga. (CBS Local) — Approximately 50 workers at the Perdue Farms plant in Kathleen, Georgia, walked off the job Monday morning, saying they don’t feel safe working there during the coronavirus pandemic.

Kendaliyn Granville told CBS affiliate WMAZ some workers on the production line were in contact with people who tested positive for COVID-19 and the company should do more to protect workers.

“We’re not getting nothing — no type of compensation, no nothing, not even no cleanliness, no extra pay — no nothing. We’re up here risking our life for chicken,” she said.

Perdue says it is doing “everything we can to take good care of our Associates while continuing to produce safe and reliable food.”
'This is not a playing matter': Perdue plant employees walk out over COVID-19 concerns 'This is not a game': Perdue plant employees walk out over COVID-19 concerns
— 13WMAZ News (@13wmaznews) March 24, 2020
“We’ve stepped up a number of our protocols to help ensure the health and wellness of our Associates,” the company said in a statement, including “increased cleaning protocols in all of our offices and facilities, not only for sanitation but also in common areas, cafeterias, and locker rooms.”

But Granville says when she comes in every morning, there is food on the floor from the night before and the bathrooms are still dirty.

“All we’re asking now is just to sanitize the building. Sanitize the building. Everybody that’s been exposed to it, they need to go home. These folks are still on the floor,” she said.

Houston County sheriff’s deputies were called to the scene and the group dispersed. Granville said most of the workers went home.

“You want us to go back on the floor to work? No, first sanitize the line, something, because this is not a playing matter. This is not a game.”
 

Steve308

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I to noticed how dark we went. The NG has been positioned all over the state to help with test but no test results are being given to the media. News has come to a crawl compared to last Saturday. I think the numbers are well over a thousand and Governor BendOver is about to pull some kind of block the main roads with the Guard. You can not trust that commie and his Boulder commies. They run this state for themselves and damn the rest of us.

I'm also in Colorado, north of Denver, and there is a national guard installation about a mile from my house. I have been making a point of walking past it on my daily dog walk, just to get a heads up if the guard is starting to prepare for deployment. As of today, place is still quiet, no lights on, no vehicles in the parking lot. I'll post a note if that changes.

Steve308
 
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Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Yes.

I'm betting that they are getting tired of holding our debt, have realized that they are getting to the point of needing more room (more land) or less people (especially the pesky protesting ones), have realized that their takeover of South and Central America as well as Africa is not going as fast as they planned and have hoped to get most of this taken care of by the virus release. After all, if they can cripple us (the west) hard enough while leaving both South/Central America and Africa relatively healthy, they can then use those groups as "external force assistance" when the west looks like it is about to plunge into darkness.

Ask yourself why they are heavy into most South/Central American countries, and why arms production down there is at an all time high, while the people aren't there to use those arms locally (you don't see those AK47/103's (and other playtoys) going to the public in Venezuela...). How much do you want to bet that we have some group (like Antifa) that gets bent because they don't get "their guy" on the platform, and they start rioting in the streets of certain mid-america towns. Get enough started there, and few will notice the upsurge flying across the border or the activity around the Cuba to Florida area. Any idea where those Chinese subs are at the moment? How about the Kanyon/Status-6 units (any of the dozen or so of them that were made)? Or how about they don't hand deliver the hundreds of thousands of AKs one at a time as they cross the boarder, but instead ship them up via one of the routes, and hand them out to "forces" already inside the country.

All sorts of possibilities, and they have had a lot of time to plan, and a LOT of help from the inside via the swamp.

Loup
I do remember an article was out some ten years or so ago....Obama's years...that our military had a small arms depot with all kinds of 7-62, rather than .223 or .308. Huge amount, enough to arm an army. I figured it was to resupply the invaders, Obama's team, a forward operating location given they likely couldn't carry enough crossing the border to continue the fight...just enough to get them into Texas a ways. Any one else remember that? I suspect it's still there....be a good thing to locate and expose to Trump.
 
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Fighting Coronavirus: Medical Students Near Graduation Pushing To Get On Frontlines

by Rick BooneMarch 23, 2020 at 10:43 pm

CALIFORNIA (CBS13) — As California fights the coronavirus, there’s another danger that’s fast approaching towards the state: a nursing and medical staffing shortage that could cripple the healthcare system just when we need it most.
Medical students near graduation day are pushing Governor Newsom to change the rules so they can get to the frontlines right now.

As many as 14,000 graduating nurses are waiting on the sidelines, pleading with the governor for their early certification now, versus next month.

“I’m so ready, I’ve been preparing for 19 months, I don’t want to do anything else with my life,” nursing student Ryane Panasewicz said.

Panasewicz, who’s just a few weeks from graduating as a nurse, is on a mission to change California’s medical requirements and save lives in this pandemic.
READ: Hospital Taking Donations Amid Nationwide Supply Shortage
She and a fellow student lobbied that change to lawmakers with an online petition, and so far she’s gotten 90,000 signatures.

“Because we want to graduate and get out there. So this is our way to kinda push back,” she said.

Right now, for a nurse to graduate in the state, they must have hours of on the ground hospital training, known as clinical rotations. But with the coronavirus surging, those rotations have been suspended while career medical professionals focus on the influx of COVID-19 patients.

Some hospital employees agree with the students. Some nurses were protesting Monday to highlight the fact that they’re running thin on everything from equipment to people.

“We’re afraid that too many people are going to start getting sick and there won’t be anyone to take care of the patients anymore,” registered nurse Diane McClure said.

Across the country, several states have waived clinical rotations for graduating nursing students, while others are considering the decision. On Monday, Governor Newsom said he’s now warming up to the idea.

“We believe the ability to get fourth-year medical students into the system… getting someone that’s almost finished getting their nursing degree, get them licensed earlier,” Newsom said.

If he rescinds the requirement, some 14,000 new medical professionals could flow into hospitals immediately. It’s a change students say could have a healing impact on us all.

“I’m very optimistic he’s going to make some changes this week,” Panasewicz said.

There’s also a push to call up retired and reserve doctors and nurses to help battle the virus.
 

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Fighting Coronavirus: Medical Students Near Graduation Pushing To Get On Frontlines

by Rick BooneMarch 23, 2020 at 10:43 pm

CALIFORNIA (CBS13) — As California fights the coronavirus, there’s another danger that’s fast approaching towards the state: a nursing and medical staffing shortage that could cripple the healthcare system just when we need it most.
Medical students near graduation day are pushing Governor Newsom to change the rules so they can get to the frontlines right now.

As many as 14,000 graduating nurses are waiting on the sidelines, pleading with the governor for their early certification now, versus next month.

“I’m so ready, I’ve been preparing for 19 months, I don’t want to do anything else with my life,” nursing student Ryane Panasewicz said.

Panasewicz, who’s just a few weeks from graduating as a nurse, is on a mission to change California’s medical requirements and save lives in this pandemic.
READ: Hospital Taking Donations Amid Nationwide Supply Shortage
She and a fellow student lobbied that change to lawmakers with an online petition, and so far she’s gotten 90,000 signatures.

“Because we want to graduate and get out there. So this is our way to kinda push back,” she said.

Right now, for a nurse to graduate in the state, they must have hours of on the ground hospital training, known as clinical rotations. But with the coronavirus surging, those rotations have been suspended while career medical professionals focus on the influx of COVID-19 patients.

Some hospital employees agree with the students. Some nurses were protesting Monday to highlight the fact that they’re running thin on everything from equipment to people.

“We’re afraid that too many people are going to start getting sick and there won’t be anyone to take care of the patients anymore,” registered nurse Diane McClure said.

Across the country, several states have waived clinical rotations for graduating nursing students, while others are considering the decision. On Monday, Governor Newsom said he’s now warming up to the idea.

“We believe the ability to get fourth-year medical students into the system… getting someone that’s almost finished getting their nursing degree, get them licensed earlier,” Newsom said.

If he rescinds the requirement, some 14,000 new medical professionals could flow into hospitals immediately. It’s a change students say could have a healing impact on us all.

“I’m very optimistic he’s going to make some changes this week,” Panasewicz said.

There’s also a push to call up retired and reserve doctors and nurses to help battle the virus.

I've got to get this screen fixed. It's kinda blurry...
 
Coronavirus in NY: 30 people in homeless shelters test positive

By Carl Campanile
March 24, 2020 | 2:35pm | Updated
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The number of homeless individuals in New York City’s crammed shelter system infected with the coronavirus exploded to 30 from just a single case reported last week – with one being referred from the equally stressed public hospital network.

One of the homeless people who tested positive was sent to a shelter by a public hospital because the person exhibited only mild symptoms and was not deemed sick enough to be admitted, a Department of Homeless official said.

The hospital referral was first reported by The City.

Anticipating a massive increase of infected shelter residents, DHS has identified 500 isolated units in the system that can be used to quarantine its clients. These units will be located in facilities separate from the regular homeless population, said spokesman Isaac McGinn.

The 30 COVID-19 cases were identified across 22 shelter locations. The sprawling shelter system serves 58,000 homeless individuals at 450 sites.

Eight of the infected shelter residents were ill enough to be hospitalized, 10 are quarantined in separate locations, seven are “self-isolating” in their own units and five have left the shelter system, McGinn said.

The individual Health and Hospitals case referred to the shelter system did not have a known address, McGinn said.

“As testing increases exponentially and thousands more positive cases are identified statewide, we have identified additional positive cases amongst the New Yorkers experiencing homelessness who we serve. We continue to work closely with our essential not-for-profit provider partners to keep our clients informed and to connect anyone who needs it to medical care or to isolation for monitoring and recovery,” McGinn said.

“Following the lead of our City’s health experts, we are working together across agencies to adapt and respond to this evolving situation in support of our most vulnerable City residents.”

Health and Hospitals had no immediate comment.


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Mouthwash or hand sani in the cup?

New York and the East Coast in general, have the Italy strain (clade) of the SARS-COV.

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Fighting Coronavirus: Medical Students Near Graduation Pushing To Get On Frontlines

by Rick BooneMarch 23, 2020 at 10:43 pm

CALIFORNIA (CBS13) — As California fights the coronavirus, there’s another danger that’s fast approaching towards the state: a nursing and medical staffing shortage that could cripple the healthcare system just when we need it most.
Medical students near graduation day are pushing Governor Newsom to change the rules so they can get to the frontlines right now.

As many as 14,000 graduating nurses are waiting on the sidelines, pleading with the governor for their early certification now, versus next month.

“I’m so ready, I’ve been preparing for 19 months, I don’t want to do anything else with my life,” nursing student Ryane Panasewicz said.

Panasewicz, who’s just a few weeks from graduating as a nurse, is on a mission to change California’s medical requirements and save lives in this pandemic.
READ: Hospital Taking Donations Amid Nationwide Supply Shortage
She and a fellow student lobbied that change to lawmakers with an online petition, and so far she’s gotten 90,000 signatures.

“Because we want to graduate and get out there. So this is our way to kinda push back,” she said.

Right now, for a nurse to graduate in the state, they must have hours of on the ground hospital training, known as clinical rotations. But with the coronavirus surging, those rotations have been suspended while career medical professionals focus on the influx of COVID-19 patients.

Some hospital employees agree with the students. Some nurses were protesting Monday to highlight the fact that they’re running thin on everything from equipment to people.

“We’re afraid that too many people are going to start getting sick and there won’t be anyone to take care of the patients anymore,” registered nurse Diane McClure said.

Across the country, several states have waived clinical rotations for graduating nursing students, while others are considering the decision. On Monday, Governor Newsom said he’s now warming up to the idea.

“We believe the ability to get fourth-year medical students into the system… getting someone that’s almost finished getting their nursing degree, get them licensed earlier,” Newsom said.

If he rescinds the requirement, some 14,000 new medical professionals could flow into hospitals immediately. It’s a change students say could have a healing impact on us all.

“I’m very optimistic he’s going to make some changes this week,” Panasewicz said.

There’s also a push to call up retired and reserve doctors and nurses to help battle the virus.
Aesop had good article on this subject a while back. ( I cannot resurrect it at the moment. Perhaps a Good Samaritan can.)

Basically, he said you can't jump into the saddle and start riding right out of school.

I tend to agree.
 
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