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20Gauge

TB Fanatic
No they've got ICBMs, both silo and mobile based, and SLBMs that are more than "good enough" to do the delivery job.
They keep missing the barn door.... many of them blow up on launch or shortly there after.... They would be very effective nuking themselves when invaded... beyond that the only people who have to really worry are China, S Korea and Japan....
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
CDC called me half hour ago, wanting to confirm my business
phone number was still good, then said; thank you, good bye.

I called the number back, got a recording that said it was for a
survey being done for the CDC by the University of Chicago.

Weird, as I was just about to announce to all we'll have masks
available to sell, that we'd just started selling to some doctors.

I'll be posting notice of it on the front page here at TB2K a little
later, was actually writing it up when I got that call.

Panic Early, Beat the Rush!
- Shane
I don't think they are planning to buy them...... take them sounds more probable.....
 

Leigh19717

Senior Member
Well, after visiting the Alldaychemist website this morning, and then WalMart this afternoon, I'd say it's already too late for many things. ADC has made huge changes in allowable amounts per order... last week, I bought 15 bottles liquid Amoxicillin and the same number of liquid Augmentin. Today., they're sold out of one, and the other is limited to 3 bottles... and the price is 80% higher than last week.

Walmart... I have NEVER seen that store in such disarray... not even during the holidays. I just had a few holes to fill in the preps... and that was a good thing! The OTC meds aisle was badly picked over... several things were only available in the (pricey) brand name. Hubby immediately noticed that many products (almost the entire shelf of eye care stuff, and pretty much all the OTC pain and fever reducers) had only one or two items... instead of a couple dozen. No one was hurriedly restocking, either.

When we got to the checkout, the cashier motioned to my few "healthcare" items and casually remarked, "good idea... better get them before we run out". The place was a zoo (hubby also remarked he's never seen them or Aldis so busy- and for a mid afternoon Thursday, he was right), so I didn't want to get into a discussion, so I just said, "I'd sure hate to be a manager here... they probably have no idea when or if they're going to be able to restock". She rolled her eyes and said, "you have no idea... I think they're all going to stroke out!"

Oh... there were NO elderberry products in the store! The entire section was as empty as the bread aisle before a blizzard.

In 30 days, if China isn't shipping, most of the store is going to look like that. If something happens to alert the herd... it won't last 24 hours.

Get any needed preps NOW!

Summerthyme
I ran over to dollar general earlier today and they had plenty of Advil generics as well as their NyQuil generic. I have been picking up one of each for the past three weeks every time I go. They seemed well supplied on that isle so if you aren’t finding stuff at Walmart, make sure to try dollar generals. The only thing that was completely out and leaving a long shelf was purex laundry soap. Might have been a sale though.
 

marsh

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Flutrackers How is the "false negative" of new coronary pneumonia caused? - FluTrackers News and Information
How is the "false negative" of new coronary pneumonia caused?
February 8th, 2020, 03:29 PM

Critical medical expert Wang Chen, academician of the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences, said in an interview with CCTV on February 5. The positive rate is 30% to 50%. There are still many false negatives by collecting suspected cases of throat swabs. "In other words, more than half of people who are truly infected with the new coronavirus may be" negative ".

"From the perspective of respiratory specimens, alveolar lavage fluid is more sensitive than sputum As a result, the result of sputum is higher than that of the pharynx. Therefore, the more critical patients are, the higher the diagnosis rate is because the alveolar lavage fluid can be collected.

Another key factor is the sensitivity of the kit. They believe that although the viral load will affect the positive rate of the test, it is ultimately the limitation of reagent sensitivity.

more... 新冠肺炎“假阴性”是怎样造成的? (in Chinese)
 

Jubilee on Earth

Veteran Member
Well, after visiting the Alldaychemist website this morning, and then WalMart this afternoon, I'd say it's already too late for many things. ADC has made huge changes in allowable amounts per order... last week, I bought 15 bottles liquid Amoxicillin and the same number of liquid Augmentin. Today., they're sold out of one, and the other is limited to 3 bottles... and the price is 80% higher than last week.

Walmart... I have NEVER seen that store in such disarray... not even during the holidays. I just had a few holes to fill in the preps... and that was a good thing! The OTC meds aisle was badly picked over... several things were only available in the (pricey) brand name. Hubby immediately noticed that many products (almost the entire shelf of eye care stuff, and pretty much all the OTC pain and fever reducers) had only one or two items... instead of a couple dozen. No one was hurriedly restocking, either.

When we got to the checkout, the cashier motioned to my few "healthcare" items and casually remarked, "good idea... better get them before we run out". The place was a zoo (hubby also remarked he's never seen them or Aldis so busy- and for a mid afternoon Thursday, he was right), so I didn't want to get into a discussion, so I just said, "I'd sure hate to be a manager here... they probably have no idea when or if they're going to be able to restock". She rolled her eyes and said, "you have no idea... I think they're all going to stroke out!"

Oh... there were NO elderberry products in the store! The entire section was as empty as the bread aisle before a blizzard.

In 30 days, if China isn't shipping, most of the store is going to look like that. If something happens to alert the herd... it won't last 24 hours.

Get any needed preps NOW!

Summerthyme

Summerthyme, I just today refilled our meds for the third time this month, to have extra on hand. We don’t have insurance and pay cash, so we can do that without the 30-day limitations that insurance companies typically impose. I got the Walmart pharmacy on the phone and asked if they could double this refill for us, since they were available. The pharmacist tech said to me, “I’m sorry. We’re limiting our refills at this time as we wait on some backorders to arrive. You’ll have to wait until next week.”

Maybe there is a warehouse of some sort for stockpiles of meds, or maybe there isn’t. I don’t know. But what I do know is that time will run out. Thankfully for us, they aren’t super critical. Thyroid and blood pressure meds. Yet I cannot even imagine what all of these people on antidepressants in our country are going to face when those lines of medications dry up. There are going to be a lot of messed up, mentally unstable people out there. My heart goes out to the elderly who aren’t going to be able to manage the chaos.
 
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Doomer Doug

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Trump didn't call anybody in China a liar himself. He sent in his first wave to express his views. Kudlow, who was pro china and no big deal last week, is now "disappointed in China" now. Several other Trump administration types are trashing China good. Even the whore, ie WHO, is coming down on them and the dike has been breached because there are a lot of stories, no longer being denied in the whore mainstream press. All of that began with Muir at ABC I watched him do the video of the Chinese chaos. The message is getting out now, as the DOMESTIC WESTERN THREAT GETS OUT.

The reason being the WAR CRIMINAL CHINESE COMMUNIST FREAKING MORONS HAVE SPEWED THE VIRUS EVERYWHERE NOW. Here is a link showing an INFECTED CHINESE WOMAN RAN THE LONDON UNDERGROUND TUBE, LIKELY EXPOSED HUNDREDS? TO THE VIRUS. Oh yeah, Trump and England got the hard ass for Junior Emperor Li and his morons in charge of China now. Really, you just can't make this S$%%^^ up at this point. "have a pint and take the tube home no doubt. Daniel and Housecarl are in the house now. :hof:


London Coronavirus Patient Took Uber To Hospital - Then They Sent Her Home
The UK's first coronavirus patient, a Chinese national who had recently been to China, took an Uber taxi to Lewisham hospital in South London after falling ill, according to The Guardian.

Then they sent her home to wait for her lab results.
Two staff who came into contact with the woman are currently in isolation.


Lewisham hospital on Thursday confirmed the unnamed patient had not followed public health officials’ advice and had simply “self-presented” at its A&E unit on Sunday afternoon.
She did not arrive by ambulance or her own private vehicle and went straight to the A&E reception desk to report her symptoms – both clear breaches of guidance aimed at stopping the spread of the virus. -The Guardian
After she tested positive, the patient was taken to another London hospital, St. Thomas, for treatment.
"We wanted to let you know that we have had a confirmed case of coronavirus from a patient who self-presented at the A&E department of University hospital Lewisham (UHL) last Sunday (9 February)," wrote Ben Travis, chief executive of the Lewisham and Greenwich NHS trust.
"The test result was confirmed as positive yesterday (Wednesday 12 February) and we have been in touch with all staff who came into contact with the patient. The patient went to [a specialist unit at] St Thomas’ yesterday evening, so we are now able to update all staff."

Travis also described the chain of events.
"In this case, the patient self-presented at our A&E. As soon as the patient did this, the patient was given a mask and then escorted to be tested in the dedicated area we have assigned for coronavirus testing outside the A&E building – while awaiting the installation of a purpose-built ‘pod’," he wrote, adding "As further assessment was required, the patient was then taken to a dedicated isolation room in the emergency department. In line with our protocols, throughout their care the patient was escorted and did not come into contact with other patients. The patient was later discharged and taken home by London ambulance service."
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Some staff were exposed to a risk of infection as a result of her walking straight into the A&E, rather than going to the ambulance bay to be met by trained doctors and nurses in hazmat suits, which is what happens with most other possible coronavirus cases.
Travis added: “All staff who had direct contact with the patient have been contacted, including two members of staff who are undergoing active surveillance at home for a 14-day period as a precautionary measure – following the advice of Public Health England.”
Contrary to previous media reports the woman did not ring the NHS 111 advice service before she went to the hospital. “If she had done that, things would have happened very differently when she got here. She wouldn’t have walked into A&E for a start and correct protocols would have been followed,” said a member of staff. -The Guardian
Not to worry, says England's Public health service! The woman was reportedly "taken to be tested by a route that avoided patients," while the Uber driver wasn't in contact with the woman very long.
"As the journey was less than 15 minutes the driver did not have close sustained contact with the individual and is not considered high risk." I mean I can't make this up, gang. "only 15 minutes, and they didn't even call an ambulance. So, lets see here, Doomer Doug thinks a nice round figure of 12,000 additional infected would be a good number for this woman and our ELITE NATIONALIZED BRITISH HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

Hopefully reports of contracting the hyper-virulent nCoV in just 15 seconds are false.


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Ragnarok

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China deploys 2,600 military medics to help fight coronavirus as Wuhan & Hubei party chiefs sacked

Hundreds of military medics will descend on coronavirus-stricken Wuhan to help tackle the epidemic as the number of confirmed cases worldwide surpasses 60,000, with the death toll leaping over 1,300.
The first installment of 1,400 military medical personnel touched down in the city in central China worst affected by the ongoing viral epidemic on Thursday, the Chinese Defense Ministry reported.
The medics represent several branches of the Chinese armed forces, including the Navy, Air Force, armed police, logistic and strategic support forces, and even the Rocket Force.
The current reinforcements are not the first the Chinese military has sent to the region. Extra medical staffers have been relocated to the city to man two makeshift hospitals that were built in mere days earlier this month.

Meanwhile, Chinese state media reported that Jiang Chaoliang, the head of the Communist Party in Hubei province, and Ma Guoqiang, the party chief in the provincial capital, Wuhan, were both removed from their posts. Shanghai Mayor Ying Yong will replace the provincial head, while Wang Zhonglin, the party chief in Jinan, will take on the mantle in Wuhan.

It was not immediately clear what prompted the ousters. Chinese state media tabloid Global Times reported that an “inspection” was carried out by the central government in Hubei and “a number of local officials have been questioned and punished for failing to fulfill their duties in the prevention and control work.”


I translate that to mean that civilian doctors are running out due to being infected or dead...
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment

EU health ministers boost preparations to fight new virus

By Samuel Petrequin, The Associated Press
Posted at 6:00 AMUpdated at 8:39 AM

BRUSSELS (AP) ” European Union health ministers agreed Thursday to boost preparations and organize a coordinated response to prevent the virus that emerged in China from further spreading across Europe.

At an emergency meeting in Brussels, officials from the bloc’s 27 nations said they need to plan more to avoid any possible shortages of medicine or protective equipment during the outbreak, which the World Health Organization has called a threat to global health.
According to Chinese health officials, the outbreak has infected at least 53,000 people worldwide and killed over 1,300 ” 99% of them in China. Experts believe the true scope of the outbreak may be much higher.

More people have now died from the new coronavirus than during the 2002-2003 SARS outbreak, but no deaths have been reported in Europe so far and the continent has less than 50 confirmed virus cases.

’We will remain vigilant and if the situation changes we will step up our work,” said European health commissioner Stella Kyriakides.

Ministers said early detection and uniform prevention measures ” notably at entry points like airports ” were key. Agnes Buzyn, the French minister for health, said the EU should also remain vigilant in case the outbreak hurts the production of pharmaceuticals in China, therefore leading to possible medical shortages. She urged the EU to start up a joint procurement plan for purchasing medical equipment.

’Fragmentation of effort will make us all collectively more vulnerable. Unity on our part would also support China’s efforts to contain the virus, and mitigate any further transmission within and into the EU,” Kyriakides said.

Asked whether the EU could close Europe’s visa-free Shenghen travel area if the epidemic escalates, Croatian Health Minister Vili Beros said the bloc could indeed undertake further action.

“If that means the closing of borders, we shall discuss it,″ he said.

Kyriakides, however, said the current outbreak does not call for such drastic measures.
COVID-19 is caused by a member of the coronavirus family that’s a close cousin to the severe acute respiratory syndrome and Middle East respiratory syndrome viruses.

The EU has so far repatriated around 500 of its citizens who were in China due to the virus.
Many countries have implemented travel restrictions on recent visitors to China but Dutch Health Minister Bruno Bruins encouraged EU members to avoid additional travel and trade restrictions.

Dr. Mike Ryan, the executive director of WHO’s emergencies program, joined the debate via video link and insisted on the importance of supporting third countries with less robust health systems to stop the virus.

’A week ago, only two labs in Africa could make this diagnosis,” he said. ’As I speak, over 30 labs can make this diagnosis. And by the end of the week, we hope all countries in Africa will have the capacity to at least make this diagnosis.
___
 

Squid

Veteran Member
From a strategic perspective the US may get a good hard kick in teeth of how reliant the globalists have made the US to China for either everything or a critical widget used to build everything.

Guess we could have found out as China slowed exports before attacking us or allies in Asia.

I am a little amused how we obsess over the ‘number’ of China. Some people think there is a hidden real number. Even the Chinese don’t have the real number. If you are a junior flunky who is asked by local big wig what is last weeks number, if its bad what do you say, most by experience will try to ascertain the desired number and that gets sent up but multiply by thousands of jr. flunkies reporting to hundreds of regional flunkies all reporting up to the Xi, nobody wanting to piss off the next higher person in the food chain.

By the time they will want real but private numbers many will be dust in the incinerator with no way of knowing. And that question will only be asked possibly if the CCP survives and is still in power and wants to know.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
I haven't talked about it much, but a large portion of South Africa's population is currently infected with the AIDS virus and isn't in very good shape already. Once the China Plague hits them it will be interesting to see just how sick they get, how fast they get sick, and how long they last before they die. Indonesia, South Africa and South America are in the crosshairs in my opinion.
 

Mama Ten Bears

Veteran Member
If dead bodies weren’t able to carry contagions then there would be no need for researchers to dig up corpses to recover live samples of the Spanish flu from 1918. Your “proclamation” is wrong.


From article link:

“In a mass grave in a remote Inuit village near the town of Brevig Mission, a large Inuit woman lay buried under more than six feet of ice and dirt for more than 75 years. The permafrost plus the woman's ample fat stores kept the virus in her lungs so well preserved that when a team of scientists exhumed her body in the late 1990s, they could recover enough viral RNA to sequence the 1918 strain in its entirety. This remarkable good fortune enabled these scientists to open a window onto a past pandemic--and perhaps gain a foothold for preventing a future one.”


I visited England this past year. One comment that stayed with me (not sure what tour I heard it on) was that some villages were abandoned during the plague, and no one has ever moved back there. There was fear for a long long time that there could be reinfection.
 

Matt

Veteran Member
Well, after visiting the Alldaychemist website this morning, and then WalMart this afternoon, I'd say it's already too late for many things. ADC has made huge changes in allowable amounts per order... last week, I bought 15 bottles liquid Amoxicillin and the same number of liquid Augmentin. Today., they're sold out of one, and the other is limited to 3 bottles... and the price is 80% higher than last week.

Walmart... I have NEVER seen that store in such disarray... not even during the holidays. I just had a few holes to fill in the preps... and that was a good thing! The OTC meds aisle was badly picked over... several things were only available in the (pricey) brand name. Hubby immediately noticed that many products (almost the entire shelf of eye care stuff, and pretty much all the OTC pain and fever reducers) had only one or two items... instead of a couple dozen. No one was hurriedly restocking, either.

When we got to the checkout, the cashier motioned to my few "healthcare" items and casually remarked, "good idea... better get them before we run out". The place was a zoo (hubby also remarked he's never seen them or Aldis so busy- and for a mid afternoon Thursday, he was right), so I didn't want to get into a discussion, so I just said, "I'd sure hate to be a manager here... they probably have no idea when or if they're going to be able to restock". She rolled her eyes and said, "you have no idea... I think they're all going to stroke out!"

Oh... there were NO elderberry products in the store! The entire section was as empty as the bread aisle before a blizzard.

In 30 days, if China isn't shipping, most of the store is going to look like that. If something happens to alert the herd... it won't last 24 hours.

Get any needed preps NOW!

Summerthyme

My local Sam's club is starting to have gaping holes in their stock. White rice is GONE! No 50 or 25 pound bags. Pinto beans are almost gone, maybe 20 of the 12 pound bags left. The second shelves that are reserved for restock have partial pallets instead of the normal full sized reloads. They are using pallets of water to fill in the holes as well, in the past all water was kept in the back of the store. The local Albertsons was almost out of flour today....it was fully stocked 2 days ago.....four corners area.
 

Jubilee on Earth

Veteran Member
Hmmm... that’s a good question. Not to be stereotyping here, but does most of the rice on our store shelves come from China? If so, might want to put that on the top of the food stores list.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Did I mention tensions are high? I can tell because we're sniping at each other over stuff that normally wouldn't be mentioned. Let's all take a breath, read what you like, skim or skip what you don't, and be kind to each other. Oh, and go outside and get a breath of fresh air, enjoy the sunshine if you've got it and smile at someone important in your lives. (Touching is optional these days. :D)

SCREW YOU, MAN!!!

AAAAAAAAUGH!!!!!

OOP, OOP, EEP, EEP....
 

marsh

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The Rate of Underascertainment of Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Infection: Estimation Using Japanese Passengers Data on Evacuation Flights

Journal of Clinical Medicine (JCM)

Abstract
From 29 to 31 January 2020, a total of 565 Japanese citizens were evacuated from Wuhan, China on three chartered flights. All passengers were screened upon arrival in Japan for symptoms consistent with novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) infection and tested for presence of the virus. Assuming that the mean detection window of the virus can be informed by the mean serial interval (estimated at 7.5 days), the ascertainment rate of infection was estimated at 9.2% (95% confidence interval: 5.0, 20.0). This indicates that the incidence of infection in Wuhan can be estimated at 20,767 infected individuals, including those with asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic infections. The infection fatality risk (IFR)—the actual risk of death among all infected individuals—is therefore 0.3% to 0.6%, which may be comparable to Asian influenza pandemic of 1957–1958.
 

Ragnarok

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GABBAR TALKS (News & Views) ‏ @GabbarTalksNews 22m22 minutes ago

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#Shanghai Has Banned People And Cars From Entering The City Starting At 00:00 On February 14

...wow...

That is a city of 24.25 million people...
 

rafter

Since 1999
Summerthyme, I just today refilled our meds for the third time this month, to have extra on hand. We don’t have insurance and pay cash, so we can do that without the 30-day limitations that insurance companies typically impose. I got the Walmart pharmacy on the phone and asked if they could double this refill for us, since they were available. The pharmacist tech said to me, “I’m sorry. We’re limiting our refills at this time as we wait on some backorders to arrive. You’ll have to wait until next week.”

Maybe there is a warehouse of some sort for stockpiles of meds, or maybe there isn’t. I don’t know. But what I do know is that time will run out. Thankfully for us, they aren’t super critical. Thyroid and blood pressure meds. Yet I cannot even imagine what all of these people on antidepressants in our country are going to face when those lines of medications dry up. There are going to be a lot of messed up, mentally unstable people out there. My heart goes out to the elderly who aren’t going to be able to manage the chaos.

I'm doing the same thing. I still had over 30 days of thyroid meds and told them I wanted to refill my 90 days. They told me that my insurance probably wouldn't pay for it. I said "I'll pay for it" ( generic so only $12 or so) The insurance kicked in and paid it. So now I have 4 months...and some others at different mg, so actually over 6. I don't have a thyroid due to Graves disease, so I 'have' to have it.

I'm doing the same with bp meds also.

When I told the pharmacist assistant, it is because of China....she looked at me like she had heard that remark before.

This was at Walmart.
 

northern watch

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Vincent Lee‏Verified account @Rover829 29s29 seconds ago

WASHINGTON, Feb 13 (Reuters) - The United States is "deeply concerned" about the possible impact of a coronavirus outbreak in North Korea and is prepared to help U.S. and international organizations contain the spread of the virus, the State Department said on Thursday.
 

marsh

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Nature: Remdesivir and chloroquine effectively inhibit the recently emerged novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in vitro
Today, 08:32 AM

Remdesivir and chloroquine effectively inhibit the recently emerged novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in vitro

Dear Editor,


In December 2019, a novel pneumonia caused by a previously unknown pathogen emerged in Wuhan, a city of 11 million people in central China. The initial cases were linked to exposures in a seafood market in Wuhan.1 As of January 27, 2020, the Chinese authorities reported 2835 confirmed cases in mainland China, including 81 deaths. Additionally, 19 confirmed cases were identified in Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan, and 39 imported cases were identified in Thailand, Japan, South Korea, United States, Vietnam, Singapore, Nepal, France, Australia and Canada. The pathogen was soon identified as a novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), which is closely related to sever acute respiratory syndrome CoV (SARS-CoV).2 Currently, there is no specific treatment against the new virus. Therefore, identifying effective antiviral agents to combat the disease is urgently needed.

An efficient approach to drug discovery is to test whether the existing antiviral drugs are effective in treating related viral infections. The 2019-nCoV belongs to Betacoronavirus which also contains SARS-CoV and Middle East respiratory syndrome CoV (MERS-CoV). Several drugs, such as ribavirin, interferon, lopinavir-ritonavir, corticosteroids, have been used in patients with SARS or MERS, although the efficacy of some drugs remains controversial.3 In this study, we evaluated the antiviral efficiency of five FAD-approved drugs including ribavirin, penciclovir, nitazoxanide, nafamostat, chloroquine and two well-known broad-spectrum antiviral drugs remdesivir (GS-5734) and favipiravir (T-705) against a clinical isolate of 2019-nCoV in vitro.
Standard assays were carried out to measure the effects of these compounds on the cytotoxicity, virus yield and infection rates of 2019-nCoVs. Firstly, the cytotoxicity of the candidate compounds in Vero E6 cells (ATCC-1586) was determined by the CCK8 assay. Then, Vero E6 cells were infected with nCoV-2019BetaCoV/Wuhan/WIV04/20192 at a multiplicity of infection (MOI) of 0.05 in the presence of varying concentrations of the test drugs. DMSO was used in the controls. Efficacies were evaluated by quantification of viral copy numbers in the cell supernatant via quantitative real-time RT-PCR (qRT-PCR) and confirmed with visualization of virus nucleoprotein (NP) expression through immunofluorescence microscopy at 48 h post infection (p.i.) (cytopathic effect was not obvious at this time point of infection). Among the seven tested drugs, high concentrations of three nucleoside analogs including ribavirin (half-maximal effective concentration (EC50) = 109.50 μM, half-cytotoxic concentration (CC50) > 400 μM, selectivity index (SI) > 3.65), penciclovir (EC50 = 95.96 μM, CC50 > 400 μM, SI > 4.17) and favipiravir (EC50 = 61.88 μM, CC50 > 400 μM, SI > 6.46) were required to reduce the viral infection (Fig. 1a and Supplementary information, Fig. S1). However, favipiravir has been shown to be 100% effective in protecting mice against Ebola virus challenge, although its EC50 value in Vero E6 cells was as high as 67 μM,4 suggesting further in vivo studies are recommended to evaluate this antiviral nucleoside. Nafamostat, a potent inhibitor of MERS-CoV, which prevents membrane fusion, was inhibitive against the 2019-nCoV infection (EC50 = 22.50 μM, CC50 > 100 μM, SI > 4.44). Nitazoxanide, a commercial antiprotozoal agent with an antiviral potential against a broad range of viruses including human and animal coronaviruses, inhibited the 2019-nCoV at a low-micromolar concentration (EC50 = 2.12 μM; CC50 > 35.53 μM; SI > 16.76). Further in vivo evaluation of this drug against 2019-nCoV infection is recommended. Notably, two compounds remdesivir (EC50 = 0.77 μM; CC50 > 100 μM; SI > 129.87) and chloroquine (EC50 = 1.13 μM; CC50 > 100 μM, SI > 88.50) potently blocked virus infection at low-micromolar concentration and showed high SI (Fig. 1a, b).

Fig. 1: The antiviral activities of the test drugs against 2019-nCoV in vitro.

a Vero E6 cells were infected with 2019-nCoV at an MOI of 0.05 in the treatment of different doses of the indicated antivirals for 48 h. The viral yield in the cell supernatant was then quantified by qRT-PCR. Cytotoxicity of these drugs to Vero E6 cells was measured by CCK-8 assays. The left and right Y-axis of the graphs represent mean % inhibition of virus yield and cytotoxicity of the drugs, respectively. The experiments were done in triplicates. b Immunofluorescence microscopy of virus infection upon treatment of remdesivir and chloroquine. Virus infection and drug treatment were performed as mentioned above. At 48 h p.i., the infected cells were fixed, and then probed with rabbit sera against the NP of a bat SARS-related CoV2 as the primary antibody and Alexa 488-labeled goat anti-rabbit IgG (1:500; Abcam) as the secondary antibody, respectively. The nuclei were stained with Hoechst dye. Bars, 100 μm. c and d Time-of-addition experiment of remdesivir and chloroquine. For “Full-time” treatment, Vero E6 cells were pre-treated with the drugs for 1 h, and virus was then added to allow attachment for 2 h. Afterwards, the virus–drug mixture was removed, and the cells were cultured with drug-containing medium until the end of the experiment. For “Entry” treatment, the drugs were added to the cells for 1 h before viral attachment, and at 2 h p.i., the virus–drug mixture was replaced with fresh culture medium and maintained till the end of the experiment. For “Post-entry” experiment, drugs were added at 2 h p.i., and maintained until the end of the experiment. For all the experimental groups, cells were infected with 2019-nCoV at an MOI of 0.05, and virus yield in the infected cell supernatants was quantified by qRT-PCR c and NP expression in infected cells was analyzed by Western blot d at 14 h p.i.

Remdesivir has been recently recognized as a promising antiviral drug against a wide array of RNA viruses (including SARS/MERS-CoV5) infection in cultured cells, mice and nonhuman primate (NHP) models. It is currently under clinical development for the treatment of Ebola virus infection.6 Remdesivir is an adenosine analogue, which incorporates into nascent viral RNA chains and results in pre-mature termination.7 Our time-of-addition assay showed remdesivir functioned at a stage post virus entry (Fig. 1c, d), which is in agreement with its putative anti-viral mechanism as a nucleotide analogue. Warren et al. showed that in NHP model, intravenous administration of 10 mg/kg dose of remdesivir resulted in concomitant persistent levels of its active form in the blood (10 μM) and conferred 100% protection against Ebola virus infection.7 Our data showed that EC90 value of remdesivir against 2019-nCoV in Vero E6 cells was 1.76 μM, suggesting its working concentration is likely to be achieved in NHP. Our preliminary data (Supplementary information, Fig. S2) showed that remdesivir also inhibited virus infection efficiently in a human cell line (human liver cancer Huh-7 cells), which is sensitive to 2019-nCoV.2

Chloroquine, a widely-used anti-malarial and autoimmune disease drug, has recently been reported as a potential broad-spectrum antiviral drug.8,9 Chloroquine is known to block virus infection by increasing endosomal pH required for virus/cell fusion, as well as interfering with the glycosylation of cellular receptors of SARS-CoV.10 Our time-of-addition assay demonstrated that chloroquine functioned at both entry, and at post-entry stages of the 2019-nCoV infection in Vero E6 cells (Fig. 1c, d). Besides its antiviral activity, chloroquine has an immune-modulating activity, which may synergistically enhance its antiviral effect in vivo. Chloroquine is widely distributed in the whole body, including lung, after oral administration. The EC90 value of chloroquine against the 2019-nCoV in Vero E6 cells was 6.90 μM, which can be clinically achievable as demonstrated in the plasma of rheumatoid arthritis patients who received 500 mg administration.11 Chloroquine is a cheap and a safe drug that has been used for more than 70 years and, therefore, it is potentially clinically applicable against the 2019-nCoV.

Our findings reveal that remdesivir and chloroquine are highly effective in the control of 2019-nCoV infection in vitro. Since these compounds have been used in human patients with a safety track record and shown to be effective against various ailments, we suggest that they should be assessed in human patients suffering from the novel coronavirus disease.

 

Optimus Prime

Senior Member
It's a numbers game folks.
There are roughly 931,000 inpatient hospital beds in the US, of those roughly 95,000 are critical care ICU beds. In those ICU's are roughly 62,200 ventilators. To attend patients there are roughly 56,000 ER docs, 48,000 radiologists, 12,400 Pulmonologists and 9800 Infectious Disease docs. These are finite numbers, the US won't produce any more rapidly for this pandemic. As i posted about a million posts back, a good friend who is an ER doc here in North Texas states his opinion is a critical case load of between 500-1000 patients is the breaking point for the DFW area. YMMV, your city may vary.
I'm in agreement with RondaBen, ER's will "treat and street" as many as possible. Honestly, ERs don't want a NCOV case, the disruption would be overwhelming. IF patient presents with flu complaint WITH NO travel/exposure to China no testing for NCOV will be done. Furthermore, the only sure test is a bronchial wash which requires bronchoscopy/intubation. How many facilities have time for that? Right this minute in North Texas most facilities are full and few are accepting transfers from outlier facilities.
 

rafter

Since 1999
My local Sam's club is starting to have gaping holes in their stock. White rice is GONE! No 50 or 25 pound bags. Pinto beans are almost gone, maybe 20 of the 12 pound bags left. The second shelves that are reserved for restock have partial pallets instead of the normal full sized reloads. They are using pallets of water to fill in the holes as well, in the past all water was kept in the back of the store. The local Albertsons was almost out of flour today....it was fully stocked 2 days ago.....four corners area.

I lived in Pagosa pre y2k. Folks around there know how to seriously prep. FYI.
 

jward

passin' thru
The tables below show confirmed cases of coronavirus (2019-nCoV, officially known as SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19) in China and other countries. To see a distribution map and a timeline, scroll down. There are currently XX,XXX confirmed cases worldwide [NUMBER UNDERGOING REVIEW], including 1,486 fatalities.



Last update: 13 February 2020 at 6:45 p.m. ET

MAINLAND CHINACasesDeathsNotesLinks
Hubei province
(including Wuhan)
XX,XXX1,4267,953 serious, 1,685 criticalSource
Other regions11,59857946 serious/criticalSource
TOTAL64,6271,48310,584 serious
6,601 recovered
13,435 suspected


REGIONSCasesDeathsNotesLinks
Hong Kong5314 critical, 2 serious, 1 recoveredSource
Taiwan1801 recoveredSource
Macau1001 recoveredSource
TOTAL8116 serious


INTERNATIONALCasesDeathsNotesLinks
Japan251*14 serious, 4 recoveredSource
Singapore5807 critical, 15 recoveredSource
Thailand3301 serious, 12 recoveredSource
South Korea2807 recoveredSource
Malaysia1903 recoveredSource
Australia1508 recoveredSource
Germany1601 recoveredSource
Vietnam1607 recoveredSource
United States1503 recoveredSource
France1101 serious, 2 recoveredSource
United Kingdom901 recoveredSource
Canada701 recoveredSource
UAE801 serious, 1 recovered Source
Philippines312 recoveredSource
India301 recoveredSource
Italy302 seriousSource
Russia202 recoveredSource
Spain20Source
Nepal101 recoveredSource
Cambodia101 recoveredSource
Sri Lanka101 recoveredSource
Finland101 recoveredSource
Sweden10Source
Belgium10Source
TOTAL505217 serious/critical
Notes

  • Hubei province, China: The numbers include clinically-diagnosed cases, which means they were not confirmed by laboratory testing.
  • Japan: The total includes 4 asymptomatic cases, which are not included in the government’s official count.
  • Japan: The total includes 218 people from the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship. They are not included in the government’s official count.
  • North Korea: Unconfirmed reports about 1, 5, or 7 cases in North Korea cannot be verified. If cases are confirmed by the North Korean government, they will be added to this list.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
Seems I've read on this thread something indicating that the virus is also now hitting a number of receptors in other organs. Not just the lungs. What I do not recall was whether the receptors in these organs were Ace2 or something else.

Oh, really? Really???? Every cell of the body has receptors for iodine, and most people are deficient. I am wondering if there is a correlation? I am being serious about this. Thank you for posting this nugget.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
EID: Risk for Transportation of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Disease from Wuhan to Other Cities in China Volume 26, Number 5—May 2020 Research Letter

Abstract
On January 23, 2020, China quarantined Wuhan to contain 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19). We estimated the probability of transportation of COVID-19 from Wuhan to 369 other cities in China before the quarantine. Expected COVID-19 risk is >50% in 130 (95% CI 89–190) cities and >99% in the 4 largest metropolitan areas.
 

Shooter

Veteran Member
I wentto walmart today, Doc gave me 3 month of meds, had to get that filled. I asked about masks and got a dirty look, said they been out a week, and have no idea IF they will be getting any more in, not WHEN, food isles looked pretty good. didnt buy any food, get SS on the 19th, big shopping day then,

I have 3 tables at the Fremont Ne, gun show this weekend, well see how that area is faring, also talk with people and see what they are thinking,

I need to get a list of OTC meds to stock, dont really have much of that .
 

jward

passin' thru
part two

conus has added the 15th case, and is still reporting 3 recovered. As you all know by this point, they've begun to let clinical diagnosis of cases be included in their official tally, thus the #s of infected and dead should reflect more than those comparatively few who were tested and traced. Yeah. #s. We're just reporting what is being said...

Timeline (GMT)
13 February

  • 23:45: 4,823 new cases and 116 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 14:50: 3 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 15:10: 1 new case in the United States. First in Texas. (Source)
  • 12:40: 1 new case in Japan. (Source)
  • 11:55: 1 new case, a fatality, in Japan. This is the first death in Japan. (Source 1)
  • 11:36: 8 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
  • 11:15: 1 new case in Japan. (Source)
  • 10:13: 1 new case in Malaysia. (Source)
  • 09:05: 1 new case in Japan. (Source)
  • 08:15: China’s National Health Commission reports 312 new cases and 12 new deaths on the mainland, excluding Hubei province. (Source)
  • 05:15: 1 new case in Vietnam. (Source)
  • 03:10: 44 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 218. (Source)
  • 00:25: 1 new case in California, United States. (Source)
12 February

  • 23:48: 14,840 new cases, including clinically diagnosed cases, and 242 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 18:53: 1 new case in the United Kingdom. (Source)
  • 08:24: 1 new case in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 07:00: 3 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
  • 02:53: 1 new case in Japan. It is one of the quarantine officers who was working on board the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama. This case is not included in the total for the ship’s passengers and crew. (Source)
  • 02:14: China’s National Health Commission reports 377 new cases and 3 new deaths across the mainland, excluding Hubei province. The deaths were in Henan province, Hunan province, and Chongqing. (Source)
11 February

  • 23:55: 39 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 174. (Source)
  • 22:17: 1,638 new cases and 94 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 21:01: 1 new case in Thailand. (Source)
  • 19:25: 2 new cases in Germany. (Source)
  • 16:10: 7 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 14:59: 2 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
  • 06:57: 2 new cases in Japan. (Source)
  • 02:37: 1 new case in Vietnam. (Source)
  • 01:14: 1 new case in California, United States. (Source)
  • 01:00: 1 new case in South Korea. (Source)
  • 00:13: China’s National Health Commission reports 370 new cases and 5 new deaths on the mainland. Of the deaths, one each in: Beijing, Tianjin, Heilongjiang province, Anhui province, and Henan province. (Source)
10 February

  • 22:10: 2,097 new cases and 103 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 17:56: 1 new case in the United Arab Emirates. (Source)
  • 16:00: 4 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 14:20: 2 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 12:30: 2 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
  • 09:46: 4 new cases in the United Kingdom. (Source)
  • 05:13: 65 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 135. (Source)
  • 01:01: 1 new case in Malaysia. (Source)
9 February

  • 23:53: China’s National Health Commission reports 419 new cases and 6 new deaths. Their locations have not yet been disclosed, except for the fatalities: 2 in Anhui province and 1 each in Anhui, Heilongjiang, Jiangxi, Hainan, and Gansu provinces. (Source)
  • 22:15: 2,531 new cases and 91 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 19:01: 3 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
  • 19:00: 7 new cases in Hong Kong. The other new cases mentioned in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
  • 11:56: 3 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 11:40: 1 new case in the United Kingdom. (Source)
  • 09:28: 1 new case in Spain. (Source)
  • 08:06: 1 new case in Malaysia. (Source)
  • 08:02: 2 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
  • 07:45: 9 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
  • 07:44: 1 new case om Yunnan province, China. (Source)
  • 07:18: 6 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 70. (Source)
  • 06:26: 1 new case in Taiwan. (Source)
  • 06:19: 1 new case in Vietnam. (Source)
  • 05:00: 2 new cases in Tianjin, China. (Source)
  • 03:33: 1 new case in Shanghai. (Source)
  • 03:25: 11 new cases in Beijing. (Source)
  • 03:19: 11 new cases in Fujian province, China. (Source)
  • 03:06: 1 new case in Japan. (Source)
  • 02:07: 13 new cases in Shaanxi province, China. (Source)
  • 02:04: 2 new cases in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
  • 01:55: 19 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
  • 01:26: 25 new cases in Guangdong province, China. The other cases mentioned in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
  • 01:25: 4 new cases in Hainan province, China. The other case mentioned in the press release was previously reported. (Source)
  • 01:22: 42 new cases in Jiangxi province, China. (Source)
  • 01:07: 3 new cases in Xinjiang Region, China. (Source)
  • 01:05: 46 new cases and 1 new death in Anhui province, China. The death was previously announced by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 01:02: 1 new case in South Korea. (Source)
  • 01:00: 27 new cases in Zhejiang province, China. (Source)
  • 00:45: 7 new cases in Guizhou province, China. (Source)
  • 00:44: 29 new cases in Jiangsu province, China. (Source)
  • 00:36: 35 new cases in Hunan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:41: 53 new cases and 2 new deaths in Henan province, China. One previous case was discarded. The deaths were previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 00:33: 23 new cases in Sichuan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:25: 26 new cases and 1 new death in Heilongjiang province, China. One previous case was discarded and 13 asymptomatic cases were deducted from the government’s official count. Those 13, however, are still included in our total. The death was previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 00:20: 12 new cases and 1 new death in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, China. The death was previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 00:18: 9 new cases in Jilin province, China. (Source)
  • 00:17: 2 new cases in Yunnan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:16: 11 new cases and 1 new death in Hebei province, China. The death was previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 00:15: China’s National Health Commission reports 441 new cases and 7 new deaths across the mainland. Their locations have not yet been disclosed, except for the fatalities: 2 in Henan province, 1 in Hebei province, 1 in Heilongjiang province, 1 in Anhui province, 1 in Shandong province, and 1 in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region. (Source)
8 February

  • 23:51: 6 new cases in Shanghai. (Source)
  • 23:08: 18 new cases in Chongqing, China. (Source)
  • 22:10: 2,147 new cases and 81 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 19:56: 12 new cases in Shanxi province, China. One previous case was discarded. (Source)
  • 19:40: 7 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
  • 14:50: 8 new cases in Gansu province, China. (Source)
  • 10:50: 1 new death in Hunan province, China. (Source)
  • 10:46: 1 new case in Malaysia. (Source)
  • 09:36: 5 new cases in France. (Source)
  • 08:05: 20 new cases in Guangdong province, China. (Source)
  • 07:53: 2 new cases in Chongqing, China. (Source)
  • 07:09: 9 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
  • 06:51: 4 new cases in Liaoning province, China. (Source)
  • 05:59: 5 new cases in Shanghai. (Source)
  • 05:58: 7 new cases in Thailand. (Source)
  • 03:28: 1 new case in Taiwan. (Source)
  • 03:27: 1 new death in Gansu province, China. This death was previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 03:26: 3 new cases in Xinjiang Region, China. (Source)
  • 03:14: 15 new cases in Fujian province, China. (Source)
  • 03:08: 2 new cases in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
  • 03:07: 18 new cases and 1 new death in Beijing. The death was earlier reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 03:01: 7 new cases in Tianjin, China. (Source)
  • 02:22: 11 new cases in Shaanxi province, China. (Source)
  • 02:10: 2 new cases in Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
  • 02:03: 9 new cases in Hainan province, China. (Source)
  • 02:00: 41 new cases in Guangdong province, China. The other cases mentioned in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
  • 01:43: 8 new cases in Guizhou province, China. (Source)
  • 01:05: 37 new cases in Jiangxi province, China. (Source)
  • 01:03: 42 new cases in Zhejiang province, China. (Source)
  • 01:00: 67 new cases and 1 new death in Henan province, China. The fatality was earlier reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 00:58: 18 new cases and 2 new deaths in Heilongjiang province, China. The number of new cases reported here is lower than the number mentioned in the press release, because the total did not match with the previous update. The fatalities in this update were earlier reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 00:54: 68 new cases in Anhui province, China. (Source)
  • 00:53: 31 new cases in Hunan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:46: 31 new cases in Jiangsu province, China. (Source)
  • 00:45: 19 new cases in Sichuan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:33: 21 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
  • 00:32: 3 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 64. (Source)
  • 00:21: 4 new cases in Jilin province, China. (Source)
  • 00:20: 11 new cases in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
  • 00:19: 24 new cases in Hebei province, China. (Source)
  • 00:05: China’s National Health Commission reports 498 new cases of coronavirus and 5 new deaths. Their locations have not yet been disclosed, except for the fatalities: 2 in Heilongjiang province, 1 in Beijing, 1 in Henan province, and 1 in Gansu province. (Source)
For the full timeline, click here.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My local Sam's club is starting to have gaping holes in their stock. White rice is GONE! No 50 or 25 pound bags. Pinto beans are almost gone, maybe 20 of the 12 pound bags left. The second shelves that are reserved for restock have partial pallets instead of the normal full sized reloads. They are using pallets of water to fill in the holes as well, in the past all water was kept in the back of the store. The local Albertsons was almost out of flour today....it was fully stocked 2 days ago.....four corners area.
Walmart online has 20# bags of white rice in stock and ready to ship for free if you order $35 worth of stuff. $8.48 for 20#
 

Shadow

Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
Honestly, I doubt there are any true chemicals in it...probably just water vapor and something to make it fog or smell. It’s likely theater to seem like the gov is doing “something”
I agree. With transportation shut down how did they determine what would be effective and acquire the amount of it to spray the entire city with trucks and these portable machines?

Shadow
 
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marsh

On TB every waking moment
As I have stated, I am late looking at today's posts so please excuse if these are duplicates.

<div data-xf-p="1"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">US announces 15th virus case, this one in Texas evacuee</div>
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US announces 15th virus case, this one in Texas evacuee
By MIKE STOBBEyesterday


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FILE - This Feb. 2, 2020, file photo provided by the Department of Defense shows empty lodging facilities at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland, Texas. The Department of Defense says it is providing temporary lodging support for up to 1,000 passengers being evacuated from China to the U.S. in response to the coronavirus outbreak there. The virus outbreak that began in China and has spread to more than 20 countries is stretching already-strained public health systems in Asia and beyond, raising questions over whether everyone can get equal access to treatment. (Todd Holly/U.S. Air Force via AP, File)

NEW YORK (AP) — U.S. officials on Thursday announced the country’s 15th confirmed case of the new coronavirus — an evacuee from China who had been under quarantine in Texas.

The patient, who had been flown to Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio last week, is now in isolation at a hospital and was reported in stable condition. The infection was confirmed through a Wednesday night lab test , making the person the first coronavirus patient in Texas.
“There may be additional cases we identify. I do want to prepare you for that,” said Dr. Jennifer McQuiston, deputy director of the Centers for Disease Control’s division of high consequence pathogens and pathology.

Two earlier U.S. cases were found among evacuees flown to Marine Corps Air Station Miramar in Southern California.

Hundreds of people, including U.S. State Department employees and their families, were brought to military bases in Texas, California and Nebraska aboard chartered flights from Wuhan, a city of 11 million that is at the center of the outbreak.

There are 57 evacuees being held in quarantine at the Nebraska National Guard’s Camp Ashland southwest of Omaha, Nebraska, none of whom have shown any signs of the virus, Nebraska Medicine spokesman Taylor Wilson said. He said the Omaha hospital prepared to treat any of the evacuees if needed.

Tens of thousands of cases of the illness, known as COVID-19, have been reported globally, the vast majority of them in China.

The virus can cause fever, coughing, wheezing and pneumonia. Health officials think it spreads mainly from droplets when an infected person coughs or sneezes, similar to how the flu spreads.
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Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Yes, there is a little preliminary studied here which surveyed 59 patients and I think something like 35 to 60% of them had unpleasant lab readings for the kidneys. It was stressed at the beginning that this has not been peer reviewed and should not be used as clinical guidance. That said, rondaben, does N=59 seem like enough of a size sample to draw conclusions from?

Kidney Dysfunctions of 2019-nCoV Patients
The computerized tomography (CT) scan showed radiographic abnormalities of the kidneys in 100% of the patients
Caution on Kidney Dysfunctions of 2019-nCoV Patients
 
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