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packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
look up your local Walmart webpage - it is under find a store - scroll down about half way - there is a chart that displays the busiest hours and busiest days. Shop accordingly

Thanks, just looked that up and didn't realize that they are no longer open 24/7. Ours is now open only from 6am to 1am.
 

Trivium Pursuit

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ACE2 is in a number of other tissues like the heart, kidneys. in fact the kidney damage is pretty severe in many cases.
Yes, there is a little preliminary studied here which surveyed 59 patients and I think something like 35 to 60% of them had unpleasant lab readings for the kidneys. It was stressed at the beginning that this has not been peer reviewed and should not be used as clinical guidance. That said, rondaben, does N=59 seem like enough of a size sample to draw conclusions from?
 

northern watch

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Holger Zschaepitz‏ @Schuldensuehner 12h12 hours ago

Ouch! Passenger car sales in #China slumped by about 20% YoY in Jan. The lockdown of Wuhan city on 23 January 2020 seems to be the main reason for this weakness. This will also affect the German auto manufacturers for whom China is an important market. (via Commerzbank)

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northern watch

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Holger Zschaepitz‏ @Schuldensuehner 14h14 hours ago

#China ousts Officials as new cases jump by 15,000 after data revision (just 2 days after the advance team of WHO arrived). Change will raise number of those infected globally by 1/3 to 60,000, dashing hope that the epidemic was showing signs of easing

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Jubilee on Earth

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sorry if a dupe ... too many pages


California lab says it discovered coronavirus vaccine in 3 hours
fair use Published 7 hours ago By Evie FordhamFOXBusiness

An American biotech company says it created a coronavirus vaccine three hours after getting access to the virus' genetic sequence in mid-January, and now scientists are racing to get the vaccine on the market in record time.
Inovio Pharmaceuticals is based in Pennsylvania, but scientists in its laboratory in San Diego made the discovery.

NEW CORONAVIRUS CASES SOAR, DEATHS RISE
"We were able to rapidly construct our vaccine in a matter of about three hours once we had the DNA sequence from the virus available because of the power of our DNA medicine platform," Dr. J. Joseph Kim, Inovio's president and CEO, told FOX Business. "Our goal is to start phase one human testing in the U.S. early this summer."

China has reported 254 new daily deaths and a spike in new daily virus cases of 15,152, after new methodology was applied in the hardest-hit province of Hubei as to how cases are categorized.

CORONAVIRUS TREATMENT MAY COME FROM AN UNEXPECTED PLACE
Inovio's stock jumped to $5.32 a share a few days after the company announced it was selected to work on a coronavirus vaccine.
The American company is partnering with Beijing Advaccine, a Chinese company, to work on the vaccine. Inovio also received $9 million to work on the vaccine from the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, which is backed by billionaire Bill Gates.

TickerSecurityLastChangeChange %
INOINOVIO PHARMACEUTICALS3.98+0.64+19.16%
CORONAVIRUS LIKELY TO HIT US GROWTH



"We’ve done this many, many times before. The most relevant was building our vaccine against MERS virus, which is a coronavirus in the same family as COVID-19," Kim said.
Inovio took a vaccine for Zika virus from construct design to human testing in the U.S. in less than seven months, Kim said.
"We’re planning to beat our own record," he said. "Maybe we could do that in close to half that time."
Inovio is building a coalition for the "war" against COVID-19 that will require scaling up to thousands upon thousands of doses, Kim said.
Another U.S. company, Maryland-based Novavax, is aiming to make a coronavirus vaccine in as little as three months, although such vaccines can take years to develop. The company made an Ebola vaccine in 90 days.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

I call B.S. on this. If they were able to construct a fully functional vaccine in three hours that can begin testing, then that tells me they already had a vaccine and was well aware of this specific strain of coronavirus.

And that scares me more than anything I’ve read on this thread so far.
 
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20Gauge

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Holger Zschaepitz‏ @Schuldensuehner 14h14 hours ago

#China ousts Officials as new cases jump by 15,000 after data revision (just 2 days after the advance team of WHO arrived). Change will raise number of those infected globally by 1/3 to 60,000, dashing hope that the epidemic was showing signs of easing

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The only place where the virus was shown to be easing was in the official Chinese reports.....
 

20Gauge

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I call B.S. on this. If they were able to construct a fully functional vaccine in three hours that can begin testing, then that tell me they already had a vaccine and was well aware of this specific strain of coronavirus.

And that scares me more than anything I’ve read on this thread so far.
No need. India did that 3 days ago.......

Did you buy your Cow Urine?
 

Squid

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I have never felt badly of OA. I don't think he meant any offense to anyone. His posts were just annoying. I read posts here, everyday, that are annoying, but I don't think they are trying to be offensive.
Let’s be honest we all post things that annoy someone, some of us just happen to annoy more than others. The only thing I do not like to see is personal attacks, especially bringing up my past record and involvement with... err I may drifting here.
 

Housecarl

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Probably should assume that the dead and infected numbers are still off by a factor of ten from the CCP government's actions.
 

GammaRat

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The only place where the virus was shown to be easing was in the official Chinese reports.....

For the rate of infection to decrease there needs to be a change in one of the following:

The virus
The host
The environment

The virus could mutate in multiple ways to be less effective. However, the original strain would continue to exist. Meaning the less effective strain would have to compete with the original, and most likely die out.

The host could become vaccinated.

The environment could mean less available hosts, or it could become less effective at transmission in certain temperatures.

I don't see any of this realistically happening...

The only way the rate of infection will slow down is if it runs out of hosts to infect. China still has plenty of healthy people to infect. So I don't see a slowdown anytime soon.
 

rondaben

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Yes, there is a little preliminary studied here which surveyed 59 patients and I think something like 35 to 60% of them had unpleasant lab readings for the kidneys. It was stressed at the beginning that this has not been peer reviewed and should not be used as clinical guidance. That said, rondaben, does N=59 seem like enough of a size sample to draw conclusions from?
the lancet and NEJM have case studies that indicate the same. proteinuria in 100% of cases, elevated BUN and Creat.

I would imagine this it is legit clinically. we know the effects of angiotensin and renal damage in hypertension. this sounds similar but is due to immune destruction in the glomerulus.
 

northern watch

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China Has Ground To A Halt: "On The Ground" Indicators Confirm Worst-Case Scenario

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by Tyler Durden
Zero Hedge
Thursday, 02/13/2020 - 15:05



Back on Monday, when analysts and investors were desperately seeking clues whether China has managed to reboot its economy from the 2-week long hiatus following the Lunar New Year/Coronavirus pandemic amid the information blackout unleashed by the communist party in the already opaque country, we pointed out some alternative ways to keep tabs of what is really taking place "on the ground" in China, where Xi Jinping has been urging local businesses and workers to reopen and resume output, while ignoring the risk the viral pandemic poses to them (with potentially catastrophic consequences).

Specifically, Morgan Stanley suggested that real time measurements of Chinese pollution levels would provide a "quick and dirty" (no pun intended) way of observing if any of China's major metropolises had returned back to normal. What it found was that among some of the top Chinese cities including Guangzhou, Shanghai and Chengdu, a clear pattern was evident – air pollution was only 20-50% of the historical average. As Morgan Stanley concluded, "This could imply that human activities such as traffic and industrial production within/close to those cities are running 50-80% below their potential capacity."



As a reminder, all this is (or technically, isn't) taking place as President Xi Jinping on Wednesday sought to send a message that progress had been made in bringing the coronavirus outbreak under control and, for most parts of the country, the focus should be on getting back to business.


According to state television, Xi chaired a meeting of the Politburo Standing Committee, China’s supreme political body, on the latest developments on the crisis and future policy responses, concluding that there had been “positive changes” with “positive results”.

Xi also reiterated that all levels of local government and Communist Party committees must strive to achieve China’s social and development goals this year, indicating that he did not want the public health crisis to hinder progress.

Most importantly, Xi urged local authorities to refrain from taking excessive measures to curb contagion, and yet clip after clip from China...

Once upon a time, somebody goes out shopping, and then...
At Tianmen in #Hubei, One of the many scenes in #China during #CoronavirusOutbreak.
湖北天门:从前,有个人,出门买个菜,就回不了家了。 #COVID2019 #Coronavirus #coronaviruschina #武汉肺炎 #武漢肺炎 #新冠肺炎 #新冠病毒 pic.twitter.com/Ji7b4o4Pii
— 曾錚 Jennifer Zeng (@jenniferatntd) February 13, 2020

Game over, man. It's #COVID2019's time, not yours.
聚众打麻将犯法。#Coronavirus #CoronavirusOutbreak #coronaviruschina #武汉肺炎 #武漢肺炎 #新冠肺炎 #新冠病毒 pic.twitter.com/r4Lgcjhups
— 曾錚 Jennifer Zeng (@jenniferatntd) February 13, 2020

In Xiaogan ,Hubei , young men forced to kneel on the street because they should not go out, one of the many scenes in #China during #CoronavirusOutbreak #COVID19 湖北孝感,出门乱跑当街罚跪。#武汉肺炎 #新冠肺炎 #新冠病毒 pic.twitter.com/FfFzOVp4Cm
— 曾錚 Jennifer Zeng (@jenniferatntd) February 13, 2020

... shows that the measures being taken are far beyond merely "excessive" when it comes to limiting the potential spread of the virus, which probably makes sense considering the unexpected surge in infected cases in Wuhan, which have sent the total for China just shy of 60,000.

Add to this the ongoing uncertainty that Beijing is far behind the curve in containing the virus, and one can see why most businesses are reluctant to "get back to normal."

In the latest confirmation of just that, several other indicators have emerged showing that despite Xi's stark demands for 1.4 billion Chinese to ignore the global pandemic which may very well have been started by one of China's own experimental labs...

“There are plenty of theories out there because Wuhan does have a P4 lab … maybe this was man-made and there’s a theory that this could have been part of a bioweapons program. But that’s just a theory,” says @onlyyoontv on the #coronavirus. pic.twitter.com/1svCAHi0jN
— Squawk Box (@SquawkCNBC) February 13, 2020

... virtually all of China - and all those critical supply chains that keep companies across the globe humming and stocked with critical inventory - remain on lockdown.

As confirmation, while we wait for an update from Morgan Stanley on the latest Chinese pollution data (at least until Beijing's definition of "pollution" is also revised) here is JPMorgan showing that while traditionally daily coal consumption - the primary commodity used to keep China electrified - rebounds in the days following the Lunar New Year collapse when China hibernates for one week, this year there hasn't been even a modest uptick higher, indicating that so far there hasn't been even a modest uptick in output.



Yet electricity is just one core indicator of real-time economic activity. Perhaps an even more critical one is human transit across the 1.4 billion person strong nation. Conveniently there is a way to track rudimentary traffic patterns across some of China's key metro areas, and they show that - in a confirmation of the worst-case scenario - activity, as measured by travel, across most of China appears to have ground to a halt.

The charts below show TomTom's traffic congestion data across key Chinese cities such as Beijing, Shanghai and Wuhan as compared to the average measurement for 2019. What they show is that virtually nobody appears to be driving in China!

Here is Beijing's congestion level over the past 48 hours (a 7 day average is also available) compared to 2019. The data indicates that travel is about 70% below its 2019 peak.



Similarly, Shanghai is about 60% below its peak:



Wuhan, of course, is even worse, with barely any congestion - or traffic - registering.



Amazingly, the industrial hub of Guanghzhou also appears to have ground to a crawl:



And as mainland China grinds to a literal halt, traffic in Hong Kong is also starting to slide...



... and surprisingly, even such major hubs of commerce as Singapore are starting to see a traffic impact.



By comparison, here is what Los Angeles traffic looks like over the past 48 hours vs 2019 average.



While not perfect, and certainly not a comprehensive view of what is really taking place "on the ground", the above data is a useful real-time indicator of how the people in China perceive the threat of the coronavirus pandemic, and one thing is abundantly clear: as the pandemic spreads further without containment, and as the charts above flatline, so will China's economy, which means that while Goldman's draconian view of what happens to Q1 GDP is spot on, the expectation for a V-shaped recovery in Q2 and onward will vaporize faster than a vial of ultra-biohazardaous viruses in a Wuhan virology lab.



 

20Gauge

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For the rate of infection to decrease there needs to be a change in one of the following:

The virus
The host
The environment

The virus could mutate in multiple ways to be less effective. However, the original strain would continue to exist. Meaning the less effective strain would have to compete with the original, and most likely die out.

The host could become vaccinated.

The environment could mean less available hosts, or it could become less effective at transmission in certain temperatures.

I don't see any of this realistically happening...

The only way the rate of infection will slow down is if it runs out of hosts to infect. China still has plenty of healthy people to infect. So I don't see a slowdown anytime soon.
You missed one.......
The China Government reports the problem solved....
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Crazy night for me personally regarding possible P.U.I. /suspected W.A.R.S. Coronavirus case!

I currently live in a "extended stay" hotel less than 5 miles from the Seattle airport (SeaTac), right on the Pacific Coast Highway (long story). Not really the most wholesome of areas, but it is cheap and has a stove.

Tonight, when my girlfriend arrived "home" from work, she was stopped while trying to board the elevator by an EMT wearing personal protection gear who was accompning an older man wearing what she described as a "complicated respirator mask".

She was told that she would have to use the stairs, as the old guy was under QUARANTINE and couldn't be on the elevator with anyone else. That was all she was told so no specific illness was mentioned, however since she is a elementary school teacher she has been getting alerts regarding the Coronavirus from the state at work, as well as news I tell her about it, so that is what she immediately suspected.

After she told me about it I went outside to investigate and sure enough there was an ambulance with 2 EMTs in personal protection gear (pics below) getting in and out of the back of the ambulance BEHIND the building! I couldn't tell what they were doing.

After they spotted me, I took the only possible course of action, which was to return to my room in order to open an IPA (VooDoo Ranger, by New Belgium Breweries) and confirm/discuss the event with my girlfriend.

After about 30 minutes of that, I went back outside and the ambulance was gone so I started walking to the store. Suddenly, a SECOND AMBULANCE pulls into the hotel parking lot (behind building again) with only one EMT, no mask. The driver parks, walks around the ambulance the gets back in and sits there. I continued on to the store and upon returning after about 30 minutes, all ambulances were gone

I can't get more information until the front desk clerk gets in tomorrow, but we are rattled and somewhat angry!

Therefore my question to you, is "am I freaking out or jumping to too many conclusions?" Maybe he just has T.B. or something.

What do you think, internet?

-DMT


DrunkenMonk:

YOU MAY BE RIGHT.

Watch this video:

King County health officials have sent suspected coronavirus cases to local motels
Feb 12, 2020
KING 5
3min 25 sec
The top county public health doctor says for decades, they've used motels to isolate patients who have nowhere to go.

 

Zagdid

Veteran Member
Ha ha ha ....Bullshit! This is an obvious pump and dump stock scam...straight out of the movie Contagion..... go rent this movie and compare to this claim.....
Hope investors don't invest before testing. It will still take 6 months before it can be clinically tested. Some more months before approved.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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This is a google translated article. (I take it on faith that the original article is a real article and not from a fake news source but as I don't Chinese I have no way to verify that.)

Original link: 北京市疾控中心党委发布战时状态令

Translated link: Google Translate

Beijing CDC Party Committee Issues Wartime Status Order

2020-02-13 18:38:07

Wartime Status Order

Party Committee of Beijing Centers for Disease Control

In order to further discipline, compact responsibility, and ensure that all prevention and control work is carried out in an efficient and standardized manner, the Party Committee of the Beijing Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a wartime state order, requiring its party members and employees to fully recognize the "critical period", "critical moment", and "key points". The urgency and importance of the moment, consciously established a "very conscious" and entered a "wartime state."

The first is to insist on using "state of war" to lead the thinking.

The center not only fulfills the city's epidemic prevention and control duties, provides professional technical support duties for government decision-making, but also implements the "unit responsibility" of the "quartet responsibility" to protect the safety and health of all employees, both of which are equally important and cannot be sidelined. Under the unified leadership of the Party Committee, it unconditionally obeys the decision-making and deployment of the Party Committee in the wartime state and serves the current prevention and control work. It resonates at the same frequency, obeys unified orders, unified commands, and acts.

The second is to insist on strengthening implementation with "wartime standards."

All party members and cadres must take overall consideration into account and resolutely put an end to work mistakes caused by this mistake. All employees must unconditionally obey work scheduling and consciously obey management. Strengthen the work style and achieve "the end of the day and the end of the day"; adhere to the problem-oriented, responsibility-oriented, sensitive matters in the prevention and control, unexplained events and the work of leaders at all levels, to understand the situation at the grassroots level and guide commence to work.


The third is to strictly control contact with "wartime thinking."

Minimize "cross-contact". During the epidemic, all staff members are strictly prohibited from leaving Beijing, strictly commuting to work, eating out, and consciously doing good health management after work. The Security Section should strengthen the access control of the three courtyards, and strictly control the entrance and exit of the gates and all foreign personnel. All personnel enter the hospital area for temperature monitoring and must enter the hospital with work cards to reduce unnecessary travel during work. Non-work must not be connected to the department, try to use the phone or WeChat, SMS and other means of communication. Try to have as few meetings and short meetings as possible to control the number of participants.

The fourth is to insist on strict management with "wartime thinking."

Highlight political security, ideological security, network information security, security of confidential work, laboratory biological security, food security, etc. The epidemic data collection, statistics and reporting will be done well, and information security and confidentiality security incidents will be resolutely prevented. Front-line personnel engaged in flow regulation, pathogen inspection, and close management should strictly implement prevention and control guidelines and operating specifications, do a good job of personal protection requirements, and ensure personal safety. Strengthen laboratory management and resolutely put an end to the theft, leakage, and loss of pathogenic bacteria (poisons) and various samples.

Fifth, we must adhere to the "wartime need" service guarantee.

The equipment and material security department shall fully protect the front line, make plans in advance in accordance with the needs of the prevention and control of the flow of returning adults in Beijing, and evaluate and reserve and manage protective materials daily. Implement the "precision arrangement of materials" requirements, timely grasp the material inventory and daily consumption, and carry out scientific and efficient deployment, not only to implement a convenient procurement process to meet the needs of prevention and control, but also to seriously fulfill the "three major and one big" and internal control requirements. All employees should implement self-protection requirements, and non-epidemic personnel should not wear medical N95 masks, including N95 masks purchased by themselves.

Sixth, we must adhere to "war discipline" and take it seriously.

The current situation of epidemic prevention and control is extremely severe, and the responsibility for prevention and control is more important than Mount Tai. The big battle is coming. All party branches must mobilize their thoughts and gather the masses to give full play to the role of battle fortress; cadres at all levels must lead by example, dare to take the lead and give full play to the leading role; each party member must advance, take on the burden and give full play to the vanguard Exemplary role. All party branches, departments, and cadres at all levels must earnestly perform their main responsibilities, and disciplinary commissions must perform their supervisory responsibilities to ensure the smooth flow of government orders and prohibitions.

All middle-level cadres and branch secretaries who violated the disciplinary requirements in the entire epidemic prevention and control work and caused significant adverse effects and serious consequences to the center and the city's prevention and control work were all suspended or dismissed in advance; timely public notification of typical problems investigated and dealt with.
 

northern watch

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The Latest: Hong Kong Catholics suspend Masses over virus
The Catholic diocese in Hong Kong is announcing that Masses will be suspended for two weeks amid the spread of the new virus

By The Associated Press
13 February 2020

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Customers have lunch with a transparent plastic panel setup on the table to isolate customers from spreading the coronavirus in Hong Kong, Wednesday, Feb. 12, 2020. China's ruling Communist Party needs to make a politically fraught decision: Admit a viral outbreak isn't under control and cancel this year's highest-profile official event. Or bring 3,000 legislators to Beijing next month and risk fueling public anger at the government's handling of the disease. (AP Photo/Kin Cheung)The Associated Press

BEIJING -- The Latest on a new virus that originated in China (all times local):

7:30 p.m.

The Catholic diocese in Hong Kong has announced that Masses will be suspended for two weeks amid the spread of the new virus.

In a brief video announcement, Cardinal John Hon Tong wore a surgical mask as he urged the city’s 400,000-member Catholic community not to panic.

He said Masses will be halted from February 15 to February 28 to avoid large gatherings because the next two weeks will be crucial for suppressing the epidemic. He urged members to participate in online Mass, share anti-epidemic materials and pray for each other
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Hong Kong has reported 51 cases, including one death.

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7 p.m.

China’s Hainan Airlines has canceled the last direct flight connection between Beijing and Berlin because of the new virus. The German news agency dpa reported that Hainan would no longer operate any flights between the two cities starting Thursday. The flights will be halted until March 28.

The Lufthansa Group of airlines announced early last week that it would cancel flights to China, including those by its subsidiaries Swiss and Austrian Airlines.

The group said there would be no flights to Beijing or Shanghai until Feb. 29 and that other destinations -- Nanjing, Shenyang and Qingdao -- would be struck until the end of the winter schedule on March 28.

The 19 flights weekly to Hong Kong are to continue as scheduled as the company keeps a close eye on the situation, Lufthansa said.

Hundreds of flights to and from mainland China have been canceled, including those run by Air Canada, British Airways Turkish Airlines, United, American Airlines, KLM, Air France, Qantas and Delta.

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6 p.m.

A Philippine businesswoman is selling bouquets of Valentine’s Day flowers packed with hand sanitizers in a unique offer to help romantics fight the deadly viral outbreak.

Flower shop owner Mary Jane Villegas said Thursday that her bouquets can better express one’s love than traditional flowers with chocolates because they address widespread alarm over the virus.

Villegas says that aside from sanitizers, the bouquets also contain a protective face mask, soap, toothpaste and a bottle of alcohol neatly arranged with red roses, tulips and other popular flowers.

“I am scared of the virus, of course, we don't know if the people we mingle with are sick," she said. "We want to live longer, that is why I made this."

A customer, Mark Richard Gigantone, says the slightly more expensive flowers will delight his wife.

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5:15 p.m.

Vietnamese news media say a community northwest of the capital Hanoi has been locked down due to a cluster of cases of COVID-19 confirmed there.

The village of Son Lai in Vinh Phuc province was quarantined after Vietnam's 16th case was confirmed in a 50-year-old man. According to the Health Ministry, the quarantine will last 20 days.

The online newspaper VN Express says the latest case has a daughter who was infected. She was part of a group of eight Vietnamese workers for a Japanese company who had been training in Wuhan, the epicentre of the outbreak.

The workers returned to Vietnam on January 17, and six have so far tested positive for the virus.

Vinh Phuc province has 11 of the country's 16 cases, with the man bringing Son Lai's total to eight.

Provincial authorities have established mobile shops and provided food and free masks to over 10,600 people.

Authorities have also set up a field hospital with 300 beds and a 200-bed facility at a military school.

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12:55 p.m.

Hong Kong has extended the closure of schools because of a viral outbreak to March 16.

The city's Education Secretary Kelvin Yeung says the decision to delay the reopening of schools after the Lunar New Year holiday took into account the advice of health experts, readiness of schools and the supply of epidemic preventive materials.

Students were supposed to return to classes on February 17, then were told it's been delayed to March 2.

Yeung says “social distancing and avoiding the mass movement of people” are key to preventing and controlling the outbreak.

Hong Kong has confirmed 50 cases and one death.

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12:25 p.m.

China’s U.N. ambassador says the government “is confident that it is capable of winning the fight” against the new virus, saying its efforts “are achieving positive results.”

Zhang Jun told a U.N. meeting Wednesday evening in New York that China’s confidence has been further boosted by the decline of new confirmed cases in regions beyond the epicenter in Hubei province for eight consecutive days, and the significant rise in cured cases to more than 5,000.

He called on the international community to maintain solidarity, increase sharing of information, experience and technology, “and work with the Chinese government and people to jointly meet the challenges.”

Zhang also called on the international community “to remain rational,” base actions on evidence, respect the World Health Organization’s guidance, “evaluate the epidemic objectively and impartially, and take proper measures to avoid overreaction that would cause greater negative effects.”

The Chinese ambassador stressed the need for mutual trust, saying people everywhere must “oppose politicization of health issues and leave no breeding ground or space for any racist comments, discrimination or stigma.”

He says: “Led by President Xi Jinping, China has mobilized itself and adopted the most comprehensive and rigorous preventive and control measures, which have fully demonstrated the power and advantages of our system whereby all resources are pooled together to cope with major challenges.”

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12:15 p.m.

Tokyo Olympic organizers have reiterated their message at the start of two days of meetings with the International Olympic Committee: the Summer Games will not be waylaid by the virus spreading from neighboring China.

Yoshiro Mori, the president of the organizing committee, says "we are not considering a cancellation or postponement of the games. Let me make that clear.”

The Olympics open in just over five months, and the torch relay begins next month in Japan — a clear signal the games are almost here.

Although there have been no deaths in Japan attributed to the virus, Tokyo and IOC officials are clearly jittery. Sitting among the officials in Tokyo was Dr. Richard Budgett, the IOC’s medical and scientific director
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Last week Toshiro Muto, the CEO of the Tokyo organizing committee, said he was “seriously worried that the spread of the infectious disease could throw cold water on the momentum toward the games.” He backed down a day later and said he was confident the games would go forward.

The virus on Wednesday forced the cancellation of a popular Formula One race set for April in Shanghai, which draws more than 100,000 over a race weekend.

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12 p.m.

A Singapore official says the number of infections in the city-state is likely to rise after 50 people have been confirmed ill.

Lawrence Wong, a co-chairman of Singapore’s task force fighting the outbreak, says the virus is clearly circulating within the population and it's too early to tell how things will unfold.

He says, “We really cannot say whether it will get better, whether it will get worse, what sort of situation is going to unfold.”

He says “we don't know how successful we will be in all of these containment measures that we have put in place.”

Wong says additional measures may involve "social distancing in order to try and reduce the chance of the virus spreading further.”

Among the 50 cases confirmed so far, 15 had fully recovered while eight are in critical condition. A bank employee, a 62-year-old man, was the most recent case. The city has found several clusters of cases, including a church, a traditional Chinese medicine store, a business meeting held last month and a construction site.

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11:45 a.m.

North Korea has announced it will impose a monthlong quarantine for all foreign visitors and others suspected to have a new virus.

The official Korean Central News Agency says the decision to extend the quarantine period to 30 days was based on researches suggesting that the incubation period of the virus could be as long as 24 days.

The report didn’t confirm the country’s previous quarantine period, but the Russian Embassy in Pyongyang said in a Facebook post earlier this month that North Korea was putting foreign visitors under a 15-day quarantine.

KCNA says: "All the institutions and fields of the state and foreigners staying in the DPRK should obey it unconditionally."

North Korea has yet to report a case of the virus, but state media reports have hinted that an uncertain number of people have been quarantined after showing symptoms. Experts say an epidemic in North Korea could be dire because of its chronic lack of medical supplies and poor health care infrastructure.

The Latest: Hong Kong Catholics suspend Masses over virus
 

rafter

Since 1999
smith357 said:
If dead bodies weren’t able to carry contagions then there would be no need for researchers to dig up corpses to recover live samples of the Spanish flu from 1918. Your “proclamation” is wrong.

Scientists Describe How 1918 Influenza Virus Sample Was Exhumed In Alaska
In an article in the journal Antiviral Therapy, scientists at NIAID narrate the story of how scientists discovered samples of the 1918 strain in fixed autopsy tissues and in the body of a woman buried in the Alaskan permafrost. The article places this discovery in the context of decades of...
www.sciencedaily.com
From article link:

“In a mass grave in a remote Inuit village near the town of Brevig Mission, a large Inuit woman lay buried under more than six feet of ice and dirt for more than 75 years. The permafrost plus the woman's ample fat stores kept the virus in her lungs so well preserved that when a team of scientists exhumed her body in the late 1990s, they could recover enough viral RNA to sequence the 1918 strain in its entirety. This remarkable good fortune enabled these scientists to open a window onto a past pandemic--and perhaps gain a foothold for preventing a future one.”
and possibly start a brand new one in error..... that should have been added

We once owned property with Indian mounds on it....in other words Indian burial grounds. After talking to many people we were told ...whatever we do...don't open them up. Many Archaeologists have gotten diseases from opening up grave sites. I even remember reading about some that died from whatever they caught working in the pyramids in Egypt.
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Years ago, I was discussing prepping with a Christian acquaintance who has five adult Christian children, along with several young grandchildren, within the context of having to defend one's own home from neighbors and friends wishing to take what you have, at the point of a gun.

They ALL live on a large acreage family compound, in a cluster of homes - one for each of them and their families - with Grandma/Great Grandma living amongst them, nearby on the compound.

I asked him, point-blank - could your girls, specifically, pull the trigger on an invading horde/individual wishing to steal what they had, or worse, if it became necessary? It took him a moment to think through the emotional and religious doctrinal ramifications of my question - he replied in a lowered voice - "I don't know . . . "

All of the five adult children were taught gun-everything 101, and each were given a firearm for their mid-teen birthday - so, they are familiar with firearms, have cared for and fired firearms, own firearms as adults, and intellectually understand and embrace the 2A and the U.S. Constitution/BOR.

I mentioned to him that as their patriarchal leader, he should have this specific discussion with all of his adult children.

Will be having lunch with him in the near future - time to revisit my question to him.

The ugly part of this world.


intothegoodnight
I don't know that anyone can answer this question until they are faced with the reality of having a weapon in their hand and a person with bad intentions in front of them. There's also a difference in the mindset of shooting someone attacking you with intent to immediately murder or rape you, or just protecting your stuff, no matter how dire that consequence might be. Having made the decision in advance to defend yourself at all costs will help, but reality . . . that's a different animal. Just ask anyone who's had buck fever. It's a discussion worth having though.

I pray none of our family and friends have to find out, for real.
 
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Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
MOO. MOO. MOO. THE SHEEPLE HERD IS IN MOTION. RED RIVER. JOHN WAYNE AND MONTGOMERY CLIFT AND THE KID THAT BANGS THE SUGAR LID.

PREPARE. PREPARE. PREPARE. THE SHEEPLE ARE MOVING IN THEIR BOVINE WAY.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
So, Trump has gone and done called the Chinese liars. Good for him, and us. Now he can come talk to the people and explain the dire situation and the coming consequnces of this virus that is spreading unseen through out the land.

He has to come out and tell it like it is. Stressing that orderly shopping is wise, now. That a very serious hit is coming to many businesses, so plan now for the coming shutdowns. Plan now to isolate rather soon. No panic necessary, we are ahead of the curve at this point, but we will not be able to stay there. We have plans that are being implemented around the clock. We have initiated our military and they are building very large containment camps that will have first rate medical supplies to work our way thru the wave that is sure to hit. If we all do our part now, we can minimize the risks, and the deaths by cooperating in an orderly fashion. Prioritize your purchases, food being key. Think hygiene, and cleaning supplies, disinfectants, soaps, toilet paper. Get your house in order.

He should state he will be initiating banking rules and regulations that will make sure no foreclosures will accrue. That this act of Evil, will not destroy the average Americans holdings. That each American will recieve a stipend that will cover basic expenses. This money will come from the money we were sending to other nations, hehehehe. Obviously all he has to do is create it out of thin air. He must assure the people, their property will be safe from foreclosure and they will have their basic needs covered, for the good of the nations people. The very backbone of this nation. Illegal foreigners will be mandated to go to camps and be provided for. Any illegals caught on the street will be sent to special camps with less amenities. It is time to put American citizens first, with banks coming in towards the last........

No need to push war on China, as they have an enemy that is proving to be the worst one possible, of there own making...or so it seems. I pray our CIA was not involved with this. Trump must find the truth here. If the deep state is behind this, he needs to bring this out to the light of day as well. If so, he needs to hang some folks publicly, soon. Which would be a nice lead into all the other swamp creatures that have been exposed. Thinking out loud.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
What if the ghost cities of China were the result of this happening before, and they didn't tell anybody?
What if the ghost cities were built knowing this might happen, and the day would come they needed to get out of dodge and setup a new shop, without any virus. I never beleived the idea that they could afford to build these ghost cities and leave them empty. I hear tell there is at least one in Africa they built..... Perhaps they do think way ahead.
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
So we’re looking to Trump to save us?

Never worked out so well for those who fell upon the mercy of Pharoah....or Caesar.

They all ended up slaves.

I’ll take my “chances” with Providence..
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
I fear Trump will do none of this, and will ride the bomb/Stock Market down just like Slim Pickens did in Dr. Strangelove. Trump has enraged the elite, and he has outlasted them, out foxed them, and out gamed them, so "they" have one final, lethal, end of the world Tplay to finally, completely take him down, and that is to collapse the entire economic system on his orange haired head. Oh yes, and then they will blame him for everything and Trump will eat his okay by April mantra and crash and burn. I hope I am wrong, but the 50 percent that loathes him, will hate him to the end of everything.
The 50 percent, and their masters, will destroy the USA, and all of us down to the last atom if that is what it takes for them to keep control.
 
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