By pulling the cart from the end instead of pushing from the front will help limit the contamination you encounter from the dozen other people who used the cart that day.
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By pulling the cart from the end instead of pushing from the front will help limit the contamination you encounter from the dozen other people who used the cart that day.
Oh that pisses me off. I hope he catches the virus. At he could have used a bullet instead of beating.This is nasty. Dog being beaten to death. But then when you go to get the video to post it, suddenly she's gone..
I saw most of it, could only take so much..... poor little guy.
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vector7
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Does This Satellite Image Show The Scale Of China's Coronavirus Cremations? Sulphur Dioxide Emissions Which Are Produced When Bodies Are Burned Reach Alarming Levels In Wuhan
High sulphur dioxide levels at the centre of the coronavirus outbreak could be a sign of mass cremations, it has been claimed.
Satellite maps in recent days have shown alarming levels of SO2 around Wuhan, the Chinese city where the outbreak began.
In addition, there were high sulphur dioxide levels in the city of Chongqing which is also under quarantine.
Scientists say that sulphur dioxide is produced when bodies are cremated, and also when medical waste is incinerated.
But social media users who investigated the maps have suggested that dead bodies could be being burned on the outskirts of the city.
This satellite map which was captured at the weekend shows very high levels of sulphur dioxide (SO2) in the city of Wuhan at the centre of the coronavirus outbreak
China has decreed that the bodies of coronavirus victims should be cremated in low-key funerals to prevent large public gatherings.
The country's National Health Commission said earlier this month that bodies should be 'cremated close by and immediately'.
On top of that, there have been repeated claims - albeit unverified - that officials are concealing a higher-than-reported death toll with mass cremations.
The high sulphur dioxide levels in Wuhan would be consistent with a high number of cremations in the city.
One map from Czech-based weather service Windy.com showed sulphur dioxide levels in Wuhan at a staggering 1,350 micrograms per cubic metre (µg/m3) over the weekend.
For comparison, the World Health Organisation (WHO) says that a dosage of 500 µg/m3 should not be exceeded for more than 10 minutes.
The UK government considers a 15-minute concentration of 533 µg/m3 to be 'high'.
According to the map, the SO2 levels were lower today but Wuhan and Chongqing still stood out compared to much of China.
Parts of Wuhan still showed concentrations above 500 µg/m3 on Monday, the map suggested.
Scientists say that cremating bodies releases SO2 along with other pollutants including nitrogen oxides.
Health workers in protective suits stand by the body of a man wearing a face mask who died in Wuhan. China has decreed that virus victims be quickly cremated
The US Environmental Protection Agency says that burning medical waste can also cause sulphur dioxide emissions.
However, it is not certain that the high SO2 levels are related to the coronavirus crisis. The colourless gas is also produced by the burning of fossil fuels and other chemical processes.
The areas around Beijing and Shanghai, which are not in lockdown, also displayed high levels of SO2 today, although they were not as high over the weekend.
Wuhan remains in lockdown with 11million people in quarantine, meaning reports from the city are hard to verify.
The World Health Organisation says that high or prolonged exposure to sulphur dioxide can cause 'serious risks to health'.
The gas can play a role in health problems such as asthma, lung inflammation and reduced lung function, experts say.
'SO2 can affect the respiratory system and the functions of the lungs, and causes irritation of the eyes,' the WHO says.
'Inflammation of the respiratory tract causes coughing, mucus secretion, aggravation of asthma and chronic bronchitis and makes people more prone to infections of the respiratory tract.
'Hospital admissions for cardiac disease and mortality increase on days with higher SO2 levels.
'When SO2 combines with water, it forms sulphuric acid; this is the main component of acid rain which is a cause of deforestation.'
The virus-hit cities of Wuhan and Chongqing both showed high levels of sulphur dioxide, which is produced in the incineration of bodies and medical waste
The death toll from the virus rose by 97 yesterday, the deadliest day since the outbreak began.
Another 3,062 cases were reported in China yesterday - an increase of 15 per cent compared to Saturday which put an end to a series of daily declines.
The latest surge in figures has dampened hopes that China's public health response might be working.
The rise in China's death toll comes as millions of people return to work today after an extended Lunar New Year holiday.
Roads in Beijing and Shanghai had significantly more traffic than in recent days and the city of Guangzhou was resuming normal public transport today.
However, the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai said 60 per cent of its member companies were planning mandatory work-from-home policies.
Tens of millions of people in Hubei province were not returning to work, as the province at the centre of the outbreak remained under lockdown.
China has built two hospitals for virus patients in Wuhan and sent thousands of extra doctors, nurses and other health care workers to the city of 1 million people.
Most access to Wuhan was suspended on January 23 and restrictions have expanded since then to cities with a total of 60million people.
China said today that 27 foreigners had been infected with the virus in the country, including two of the country's 908 deaths.
Two people have died outside mainland China, one in Hong Kong and the other in the Philippines, taking the global toll to 910.
More than 360 cases of the virus have been confirmed outside China, bringing the total to at least 40,531.
The fatality toll has passed the 774 people believed to have died in the 2002-03 SARS outbreak, another viral outbreak that originated in China.
The total of more than 40,000 confirmed cases of the new virus vastly exceeds the 8,098 sickened by SARS.
High sulphur dioxide levels at the centre of the coronavirus outbreak could be a sign of mass cremations, it has been claimed.
Satellite maps in recent days have shown alarming levels of SO2 around Wuhan, the Chinese city where the outbreak began.
In addition, there were high sulphur dioxide levels in the city of Chongqing which is also under quarantine.
Scientists say that sulphur dioxide is produced when bodies are cremated, and also when medical waste is incinerated.
But social media users who investigated the maps have suggested that dead bodies could be being burned on the outskirts of the city.
This satellite map which was captured at the weekend shows very high levels of sulphur dioxide (SO2) in the city of Wuhan at the centre of the coronavirus outbreak
China has decreed that the bodies of coronavirus victims should be cremated in low-key funerals to prevent large public gatherings.
The country's National Health Commission said earlier this month that bodies should be 'cremated close by and immediately'.
On top of that, there have been repeated claims - albeit unverified - that officials are concealing a higher-than-reported death toll with mass cremations.
The high sulphur dioxide levels in Wuhan would be consistent with a high number of cremations in the city.
One map from Czech-based weather service Windy.com showed sulphur dioxide levels in Wuhan at a staggering 1,350 micrograms per cubic metre (µg/m3) over the weekend.
For comparison, the World Health Organisation (WHO) says that a dosage of 500 µg/m3 should not be exceeded for more than 10 minutes.
The UK government considers a 15-minute concentration of 533 µg/m3 to be 'high'.
According to the map, the SO2 levels were lower today but Wuhan and Chongqing still stood out compared to much of China.
Parts of Wuhan still showed concentrations above 500 µg/m3 on Monday, the map suggested.
Scientists say that cremating bodies releases SO2 along with other pollutants including nitrogen oxides.
Health workers in protective suits stand by the body of a man wearing a face mask who died in Wuhan. China has decreed that virus victims be quickly cremated
The US Environmental Protection Agency says that burning medical waste can also cause sulphur dioxide emissions.
However, it is not certain that the high SO2 levels are related to the coronavirus crisis. The colourless gas is also produced by the burning of fossil fuels and other chemical processes.
The areas around Beijing and Shanghai, which are not in lockdown, also displayed high levels of SO2 today, although they were not as high over the weekend.
Wuhan remains in lockdown with 11million people in quarantine, meaning reports from the city are hard to verify.
The World Health Organisation says that high or prolonged exposure to sulphur dioxide can cause 'serious risks to health'.
The gas can play a role in health problems such as asthma, lung inflammation and reduced lung function, experts say.
'SO2 can affect the respiratory system and the functions of the lungs, and causes irritation of the eyes,' the WHO says.
'Inflammation of the respiratory tract causes coughing, mucus secretion, aggravation of asthma and chronic bronchitis and makes people more prone to infections of the respiratory tract.
'Hospital admissions for cardiac disease and mortality increase on days with higher SO2 levels.
'When SO2 combines with water, it forms sulphuric acid; this is the main component of acid rain which is a cause of deforestation.'
The virus-hit cities of Wuhan and Chongqing both showed high levels of sulphur dioxide, which is produced in the incineration of bodies and medical waste
The death toll from the virus rose by 97 yesterday, the deadliest day since the outbreak began.
Another 3,062 cases were reported in China yesterday - an increase of 15 per cent compared to Saturday which put an end to a series of daily declines.
The latest surge in figures has dampened hopes that China's public health response might be working.
The rise in China's death toll comes as millions of people return to work today after an extended Lunar New Year holiday.
Roads in Beijing and Shanghai had significantly more traffic than in recent days and the city of Guangzhou was resuming normal public transport today.
However, the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai said 60 per cent of its member companies were planning mandatory work-from-home policies.
Tens of millions of people in Hubei province were not returning to work, as the province at the centre of the outbreak remained under lockdown.
China has built two hospitals for virus patients in Wuhan and sent thousands of extra doctors, nurses and other health care workers to the city of 1 million people.
Most access to Wuhan was suspended on January 23 and restrictions have expanded since then to cities with a total of 60million people.
China said today that 27 foreigners had been infected with the virus in the country, including two of the country's 908 deaths.
Two people have died outside mainland China, one in Hong Kong and the other in the Philippines, taking the global toll to 910.
More than 360 cases of the virus have been confirmed outside China, bringing the total to at least 40,531.
The fatality toll has passed the 774 people believed to have died in the 2002-03 SARS outbreak, another viral outbreak that originated in China.
The total of more than 40,000 confirmed cases of the new virus vastly exceeds the 8,098 sickened by SARS.
bcingu
Senior Member
Many of us have consistently said China has to be lying about the numbers. As Tristan argues here their actions speak louder than words. Couple that with the lack of evidence they are supplying those left in quarantine. Either they have abandoned those quarantined or the number of dead is considerably more than even we have estimated.
danielboon
TB Fanatic
looks that way
danielboon
TB Fanatic
Beijing CDC Party Committee Issues Wartime Status Order
2020-02-13 18:38:07
Wartime Status Order
Party Committee of Beijing Centers for Disease Control
In order to further discipline, compact responsibility, and ensure that all prevention and control work is carried out in an efficient and standardized manner, the Party Committee of the Beijing Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a wartime state order, requiring its party members and employees to fully recognize the "critical period", "critical moment", and "keys" The urgency and importance of the moment, consciously established a "very conscious" and entered a "wartime state."
The first is to insist on using "state of war" to lead the thinking.
The center not only fulfills the city's epidemic prevention and control duties, provides professional technical support duties for government decision-making, but also implements the "unit responsibility" of the "quartet responsibility" to protect the safety and health of all employees, both of which are equally important and cannot be sidelined. Under the unified leadership of the Party Committee, it unconditionally obeys the decision-making and deployment of the Party Committee in the wartime state and serves the current prevention and control work. It resonates at the same frequency, obeys unified orders, unified commands, and acts.
The second is to insist on strengthening implementation with "wartime standards."
All party members and cadres must take overall consideration into account and resolutely put an end to work mistakes caused by this mistake. All employees must unconditionally obey work scheduling and consciously obey management. Strengthen the work style and achieve "the end of the day and the end of the day"; adhere to the problem-oriented, responsibility-oriented, sensitive matters in the prevention and control, unexplained events and the work of leaders at all levels, to understand the situation at the grassroots level and guide commence to work.
The third is to strictly control contact with "wartime thinking."
Minimize "cross-contact". During the epidemic, all staff members are strictly prohibited from leaving Beijing, strictly commuting to work, eating out, and consciously doing good health management after work. The Security Section should strengthen the access control of the three courtyards, and strictly control the entrance and exit of the gates and all foreign personnel. All personnel enter the hospital area for temperature monitoring and must enter the hospital with work cards to reduce unnecessary travel during work. Non-work must not be connected to the department, try to use the phone or WeChat, SMS and other means of communication. Try to have as few meetings and short meetings as possible to control the number of participants.
The fourth is to insist on strict management with "wartime thinking."
Highlight political security, ideological security, network information security, security of confidential work, laboratory biological security, food security, etc. The epidemic data collection, statistics and reporting will be done well, and information security and confidentiality security incidents will be resolutely prevented. Front-line personnel engaged in flow regulation, pathogen inspection, and close management should strictly implement prevention and control guidelines and operating specifications, do a good job of personal protection requirements, and ensure personal safety. Strengthen laboratory management and resolutely put an end to the theft, leakage, and loss of pathogenic bacteria (poisons) and various samples.
Fifth, we must adhere to the "wartime need" service guarantee.
The equipment and material security department shall fully protect the front line, make plans in advance in accordance with the needs of the prevention and control of the flow of returning adults in Beijing, and evaluate and reserve and manage protective materials daily. Implement the "precision arrangement of materials" requirements, timely grasp the material inventory and daily consumption, and carry out scientific and efficient deployment, not only to implement a convenient procurement process to meet the needs of prevention and control, but also to seriously fulfill the "three major and one big" and internal control requirements. All employees should implement self-protection requirements, and non-epidemic personnel should not wear medical N95 masks, including N95 masks purchased by themselves.
Sixth, we must adhere to "war discipline" and take it seriously.
The current situation of epidemic prevention and control is extremely severe, and the responsibility for prevention and control is more important than Mount Tai. The big battle is coming. All party branches must mobilize their thoughts and gather the masses to give full play to the role of battle fortress; cadres at all levels must lead by example, dare to take the lead and give full play to the leading role; each party member must advance, take on the burden and give full play to the vanguard Exemplary role. All party branches, departments, and cadres at all levels must earnestly perform their main responsibilities, and disciplinary commissions must perform their supervisory responsibilities to ensure the smooth flow of government orders and prohibitions.
All middle-level cadres and branch secretaries who violated the disciplinary requirements in the entire epidemic prevention and control work and caused significant adverse effects and serious consequences to the center and the city's prevention and control work were all suspended or dismissed in advance; timely public notification of typical problems investigated and dealt with.
www.yangtse.com
2020-02-13 18:38:07
Wartime Status Order
Party Committee of Beijing Centers for Disease Control
In order to further discipline, compact responsibility, and ensure that all prevention and control work is carried out in an efficient and standardized manner, the Party Committee of the Beijing Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a wartime state order, requiring its party members and employees to fully recognize the "critical period", "critical moment", and "keys" The urgency and importance of the moment, consciously established a "very conscious" and entered a "wartime state."
The first is to insist on using "state of war" to lead the thinking.
The center not only fulfills the city's epidemic prevention and control duties, provides professional technical support duties for government decision-making, but also implements the "unit responsibility" of the "quartet responsibility" to protect the safety and health of all employees, both of which are equally important and cannot be sidelined. Under the unified leadership of the Party Committee, it unconditionally obeys the decision-making and deployment of the Party Committee in the wartime state and serves the current prevention and control work. It resonates at the same frequency, obeys unified orders, unified commands, and acts.
The second is to insist on strengthening implementation with "wartime standards."
All party members and cadres must take overall consideration into account and resolutely put an end to work mistakes caused by this mistake. All employees must unconditionally obey work scheduling and consciously obey management. Strengthen the work style and achieve "the end of the day and the end of the day"; adhere to the problem-oriented, responsibility-oriented, sensitive matters in the prevention and control, unexplained events and the work of leaders at all levels, to understand the situation at the grassroots level and guide commence to work.
The third is to strictly control contact with "wartime thinking."
Minimize "cross-contact". During the epidemic, all staff members are strictly prohibited from leaving Beijing, strictly commuting to work, eating out, and consciously doing good health management after work. The Security Section should strengthen the access control of the three courtyards, and strictly control the entrance and exit of the gates and all foreign personnel. All personnel enter the hospital area for temperature monitoring and must enter the hospital with work cards to reduce unnecessary travel during work. Non-work must not be connected to the department, try to use the phone or WeChat, SMS and other means of communication. Try to have as few meetings and short meetings as possible to control the number of participants.
The fourth is to insist on strict management with "wartime thinking."
Highlight political security, ideological security, network information security, security of confidential work, laboratory biological security, food security, etc. The epidemic data collection, statistics and reporting will be done well, and information security and confidentiality security incidents will be resolutely prevented. Front-line personnel engaged in flow regulation, pathogen inspection, and close management should strictly implement prevention and control guidelines and operating specifications, do a good job of personal protection requirements, and ensure personal safety. Strengthen laboratory management and resolutely put an end to the theft, leakage, and loss of pathogenic bacteria (poisons) and various samples.
Fifth, we must adhere to the "wartime need" service guarantee.
The equipment and material security department shall fully protect the front line, make plans in advance in accordance with the needs of the prevention and control of the flow of returning adults in Beijing, and evaluate and reserve and manage protective materials daily. Implement the "precision arrangement of materials" requirements, timely grasp the material inventory and daily consumption, and carry out scientific and efficient deployment, not only to implement a convenient procurement process to meet the needs of prevention and control, but also to seriously fulfill the "three major and one big" and internal control requirements. All employees should implement self-protection requirements, and non-epidemic personnel should not wear medical N95 masks, including N95 masks purchased by themselves.
Sixth, we must adhere to "war discipline" and take it seriously.
The current situation of epidemic prevention and control is extremely severe, and the responsibility for prevention and control is more important than Mount Tai. The big battle is coming. All party branches must mobilize their thoughts and gather the masses to give full play to the role of battle fortress; cadres at all levels must lead by example, dare to take the lead and give full play to the leading role; each party member must advance, take on the burden and give full play to the vanguard Exemplary role. All party branches, departments, and cadres at all levels must earnestly perform their main responsibilities, and disciplinary commissions must perform their supervisory responsibilities to ensure the smooth flow of government orders and prohibitions.
All middle-level cadres and branch secretaries who violated the disciplinary requirements in the entire epidemic prevention and control work and caused significant adverse effects and serious consequences to the center and the city's prevention and control work were all suspended or dismissed in advance; timely public notification of typical problems investigated and dealt with.
北京市疾控中心党委发布战时状态令
Profit of Doom
Dismember
Try Sambucol.
Shadow
Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
There may be others in various countries which are not attributed to the virus because of an apparent pneumonia or something. If they are not looking for it diligently it will not be found. And why check the dead, unless you really want information?
Shadow
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No I can't... I watched the meeting yesterday on youtube it has now been scrubbed from all media sources it was apparently too scary...
Zahra
Veteran Member
I came across this discussion while trying to catch up on this thread, and I have to agree that it would take intentional effort to craft posts like those! Sorry OA, I've always liked you, but this recent posting style strikes me as an attempt to come across as a caricature of the stereotypical "country bumpkin".
Since I seem to recall that you were an educator at one time, this comes across as denigrating and condescending as Hillary or Joe's attempt to pander to blacks by using fake Southern accents while reciting the "I've come too far" spiel...
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
Someone else gets a Sherlock award?
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
They would try to use the National Guard and the military to do the deliveries..... still won't work, but they will try...
SusieSunshine
Veteran Member
Less than 45 miles from me. Too close....
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
The irony of all ironies......
Chinese make a bioweapon aimed at the west, but screw it up and it targets Asians as a primary vector..... it's like someone wrote a book on it.....
bw
Fringe Ranger
Agree. But you want the ABILITY to stay home for a month or three in aggregate, so that any time it seems appropriate you can do an intermittent hunker down for the appropriate time segment. You also need to cut loose from the supply chain in the effect of a food panic, like a pre-hurricane rush.
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Melodi
Disaster Cat
The article is much longer than I realized with many tweets that don't copy etc -so best read at the link.
www.zerohedge.com
White House Doubts China's Numbers: 100,000 Coronavirus Cases Unreported
by Tyler Durden
Thu, 02/13/2020 - 12:53
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Summary:
Update(1250ET): Not long after reports claimed the White House is widely skeptical of Chinese numbers, Trump's top economic advisor Larry Kudlow appeared on television to say the US is "disappointed" in how China has handled the virus response, and that the Trump administration wishes there was more clarity.
Specifically, the US was most hurt by China's refusal to accept an American team of experts from the CDC, who offered to help.
The US economy would be at 3% growth if not for the virus, he added.
* * *
Update (1230ET): As Beijing insists that it's safe for foreign nations to soon lift their travel restrictions on China, CNN reports that the European Union is considering closing its borders if the outbreak really escalates.
They cite a Croatian health official, who said the plan is in the works, though he strongly suspects that it won't be necessary.
The WHO has said that level of restriction isn't necessary, but that' hasn't stopped Russia from closing part of its border and other countries restricting travel by Chinese.
* * *
Update (1215ET): For the second day in a row, the CDC has warned that more confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the US are inevitable, especially as the testing of ~800 evacuees from Wuhan continues.
After confirming the US's 15th case at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, officials warned that "there may be additional cases" identified during this period.
The 15th patient was a "solo traveler" from China who has been quarantined "since arriving at Lackland Air Force Base from Wuhan.
They remain in isolation at a local hospital.
Officials assured the public that there's no risk to the local community, according to CNN.
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
by Tyler Durden
Thu, 02/13/2020 - 12:53
TwitterFacebookRedditEmailPrint
Summary:
- Japan reports first virus death
- President Xi says China will minimize impact from virus
- Chinese leadership scapegoats local officials
- Death toll and case count soared last night: There are more than 60k cases worldwide, and more than 1300 deaths
- EIA joins OPEC in warning about upcoming drop in oil use, the first in a decade.
- HHS Secretary says CDC will announce another confirmed COVID-19 case in US on Thursday
- 21 people in Spain released from quarantine
- US admin reportedly questioning China's reporting
- White House reportedly "doubts" China's coronavirus numbers
- CDC warns more infections possible after first US case confirmed in Texas (15th overall)
- 2 Russian women attempt escape from quarantine
- EU could close border if outbreak worsens
- Kudlow says US "disappointed" in China virus response
Update(1250ET): Not long after reports claimed the White House is widely skeptical of Chinese numbers, Trump's top economic advisor Larry Kudlow appeared on television to say the US is "disappointed" in how China has handled the virus response, and that the Trump administration wishes there was more clarity.
Specifically, the US was most hurt by China's refusal to accept an American team of experts from the CDC, who offered to help.
The US economy would be at 3% growth if not for the virus, he added.
* * *
Update (1230ET): As Beijing insists that it's safe for foreign nations to soon lift their travel restrictions on China, CNN reports that the European Union is considering closing its borders if the outbreak really escalates.
They cite a Croatian health official, who said the plan is in the works, though he strongly suspects that it won't be necessary.
The WHO has said that level of restriction isn't necessary, but that' hasn't stopped Russia from closing part of its border and other countries restricting travel by Chinese.
* * *
Update (1215ET): For the second day in a row, the CDC has warned that more confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the US are inevitable, especially as the testing of ~800 evacuees from Wuhan continues.
After confirming the US's 15th case at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, officials warned that "there may be additional cases" identified during this period.
The 15th patient was a "solo traveler" from China who has been quarantined "since arriving at Lackland Air Force Base from Wuhan.
They remain in isolation at a local hospital.
Officials assured the public that there's no risk to the local community, according to CNN.
adgal
Veteran Member
This is from MIT Medical -
FAQ: COVID-19 | MIT Medical
medical.mit.edu
Is a person with 2019-nCoV contagious before symptoms appear?
New evidence indicates that people who are infected with 2019-nCoV may become contagious before symptoms are noticeable. That is also true for the seasonal flu, but was not the case for SARS, a coronavirus that is closely related to 2019-nCoV. To date, neither the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) nor WHO (World Health Organization) have changed their recommendations regarding the treatment of asymptomatic individuals who may have been exposed to 2019 n-CoV while traveling.
January 31, 2020
The doctor from CDC was stating that people were not contagious unless they had a fever.
Well, we had the Super Bowl and there were some predicting disaster. I think the Mardi Gras has a better chance but not by much.
I am not a believer that there are thousands of carriers wandering around the country infecting guh-zillions of citizens.
intothatgoodnight
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jward - would you kindly double-check when you post, that you have a direct link to the actual Twitter posting, so that we may read further of that particular Twitter message and reader responses?Aw shucks... bet taxi drivers do a fair bit o' minglin' eh?
Hesitate to even begin to do the math on how many passangers, per how many trips, per how many days of exchanging how many fares and breathing how much air...
9.273 million (2015) Tokyo population
(8.5xx million New York)
BNO Newsroom
@BNODesk
NEW: Taxi driver in Tokyo diagnosed with coronavirus - NHK
Thanks for keeping us all informed - good work.
intothegoodnight
SouthernBreeze
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I agree. As a true Southerner with a very accentuated southern drawl, it's very annoying to see someone try and mimic, or poke fun of, what I see is our common language down here. I've begun passing over all his posts.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
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Shadow
Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
There is the possibility of them having flu and corona virus. If not tested for it is not a definite negative for corona virus. If they have corona virus, die and are handled as a flu death the risk of spreading corona virus is greatly increased.
It may not be realistic, or too expensive, to do all that testing but that does not change the risk of the infectious dead being handled as a normal death.
I normally like to solve problems. I do no have an answer.
Shadow
Tristan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Control & Diversion. Classic.
Hfcomms
EN66iq
Personally I’m not as concerned about the virus spread in the U.S. as I am about supply chain issues. We certainly have the potential for rapid ramp up of disease numbers but as a whole I attribute a lot of Chinese infections being caught thru fecal contamination. They have squat toilets and wipe their ass with their hands a lot of the time and they are not in the habit of using soap and hot water.
We are not yet seeing exponential case loads in Western nations or in Japan whose hygiene practices are similar to ours. I do expect localized intense outbreaks in San Fran and other big cities that have a lot of homeless crapping in the streets and high drug use. Although the virus is airborne as well as surface contact these vectors don’t seem to be as virulent as of yet. The longer we go without seeing our numbers spike way up the more I think good hygiene plays the largest role in transmission.
However....we are screwed due to supply chain issues and just in time inventory. While we might dodge a huge virus outbreak this may and probably will be the tipping point to bring on economic and fiscal collapse. If it was just us we would be o.k. But way too much of what we need for normalcy is sourced from China and India as well if it takes off there.
Source what you need as quickly as possible before the herd awakes. First it was masks and other PPE and now the concern is awaking for medications and soon it will be everyday items that people need and expect to be on the shelves. Don’t let down your guard and efforts if you don’t see the case count quickly rise here. This is an iceberg and the part above the surface is the virus. It’s what is below the surface that will rip the guts out of the ship of State.
We are not yet seeing exponential case loads in Western nations or in Japan whose hygiene practices are similar to ours. I do expect localized intense outbreaks in San Fran and other big cities that have a lot of homeless crapping in the streets and high drug use. Although the virus is airborne as well as surface contact these vectors don’t seem to be as virulent as of yet. The longer we go without seeing our numbers spike way up the more I think good hygiene plays the largest role in transmission.
However....we are screwed due to supply chain issues and just in time inventory. While we might dodge a huge virus outbreak this may and probably will be the tipping point to bring on economic and fiscal collapse. If it was just us we would be o.k. But way too much of what we need for normalcy is sourced from China and India as well if it takes off there.
Source what you need as quickly as possible before the herd awakes. First it was masks and other PPE and now the concern is awaking for medications and soon it will be everyday items that people need and expect to be on the shelves. Don’t let down your guard and efforts if you don’t see the case count quickly rise here. This is an iceberg and the part above the surface is the virus. It’s what is below the surface that will rip the guts out of the ship of State.
Profit of Doom
Dismember
I don’t know why not. I doubt if one blocks the other.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
First, the new software is making it difficult for me to post. The reply box just opens out of nowhere and I have to erase the entire replies using the back space key
Anyway, I am calling my Valentine's Day prediction since the Chinese version of the virus reality had just collapsed on itself. The White House just redefined the entire virus context because they openly called the Chinese liars and frauds and there is no going back from that. I said you multiply by 10 or 100 and that is now out there and that is the "defining event" I was aiming at. The Global Pandemic is now game on.
Anyway, I am calling my Valentine's Day prediction since the Chinese version of the virus reality had just collapsed on itself. The White House just redefined the entire virus context because they openly called the Chinese liars and frauds and there is no going back from that. I said you multiply by 10 or 100 and that is now out there and that is the "defining event" I was aiming at. The Global Pandemic is now game on.
if you say war often enough while the resources needed to feed your population dwindle at some point the mind will turn to actual war.
China deploys 2,600 military medics to help fight coronavirus as Wuhan & Hubei party chiefs sacked
Hundreds of military medics will descend on coronavirus-stricken Wuhan to help tackle the epidemic as the number of confirmed cases worldwide surpasses 60,000, with the death toll leaping over 1,300.
The first installment of 1,400 military medical personnel touched down in the city in central China worst affected by the ongoing viral epidemic on Thursday, the Chinese Defense Ministry reported.
The medics represent several branches of the Chinese armed forces, including the Navy, Air Force, armed police, logistic and strategic support forces, and even the Rocket Force.
The current reinforcements are not the first the Chinese military has sent to the region. Extra medical staffers have been relocated to the city to man two makeshift hospitals that were built in mere days earlier this month.
Meanwhile, Chinese state media reported that Jiang Chaoliang, the head of the Communist Party in Hubei province, and Ma Guoqiang, the party chief in the provincial capital, Wuhan, were both removed from their posts. Shanghai Mayor Ying Yong will replace the provincial head, while Wang Zhonglin, the party chief in Jinan, will take on the mantle in Wuhan.
It was not immediately clear what prompted the ousters. Chinese state media tabloid Global Times reported that an “inspection” was carried out by the central government in Hubei and “a number of local officials have been questioned and punished for failing to fulfill their duties in the prevention and control work.”
www.rt.com
Hundreds of military medics will descend on coronavirus-stricken Wuhan to help tackle the epidemic as the number of confirmed cases worldwide surpasses 60,000, with the death toll leaping over 1,300.
The first installment of 1,400 military medical personnel touched down in the city in central China worst affected by the ongoing viral epidemic on Thursday, the Chinese Defense Ministry reported.
The medics represent several branches of the Chinese armed forces, including the Navy, Air Force, armed police, logistic and strategic support forces, and even the Rocket Force.
The current reinforcements are not the first the Chinese military has sent to the region. Extra medical staffers have been relocated to the city to man two makeshift hospitals that were built in mere days earlier this month.
Meanwhile, Chinese state media reported that Jiang Chaoliang, the head of the Communist Party in Hubei province, and Ma Guoqiang, the party chief in the provincial capital, Wuhan, were both removed from their posts. Shanghai Mayor Ying Yong will replace the provincial head, while Wang Zhonglin, the party chief in Jinan, will take on the mantle in Wuhan.
It was not immediately clear what prompted the ousters. Chinese state media tabloid Global Times reported that an “inspection” was carried out by the central government in Hubei and “a number of local officials have been questioned and punished for failing to fulfill their duties in the prevention and control work.”
China deploys 2,600 military medics to help fight coronavirus as Wuhan & Hubei party chiefs sacked
Hundreds of military medics will descend on coronavirus-stricken Wuhan to help tackle the epidemic as the number of confirmed cases worldwide surpasses 60,000, with the death toll leaping over 1,300.
This did not give me a warm, fuzzy feeling.Beijing CDC Party Committee Issues Wartime Status Order
2020-02-13 18:38:07
Wartime Status Order
Party Committee of Beijing Centers for Disease Control
In order to further discipline, compact responsibility, and ensure that all prevention and control work is carried out in an efficient and standardized manner, the Party Committee of the Beijing Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a wartime state order, requiring its party members and employees to fully recognize the "critical period", "critical moment", and "keys" The urgency and importance of the moment, consciously established a "very conscious" and entered a "wartime state."
The first is to insist on using "state of war" to lead the thinking.
The center not only fulfills the city's epidemic prevention and control duties, provides professional technical support duties for government decision-making, but also implements the "unit responsibility" of the "quartet responsibility" to protect the safety and health of all employees, both of which are equally important and cannot be sidelined. Under the unified leadership of the Party Committee, it unconditionally obeys the decision-making and deployment of the Party Committee in the wartime state and serves the current prevention and control work. It resonates at the same frequency, obeys unified orders, unified commands, and acts.
The second is to insist on strengthening implementation with "wartime standards."
All party members and cadres must take overall consideration into account and resolutely put an end to work mistakes caused by this mistake. All employees must unconditionally obey work scheduling and consciously obey management. Strengthen the work style and achieve "the end of the day and the end of the day"; adhere to the problem-oriented, responsibility-oriented, sensitive matters in the prevention and control, unexplained events and the work of leaders at all levels, to understand the situation at the grassroots level and guide commence to work.
The third is to strictly control contact with "wartime thinking."
Minimize "cross-contact". During the epidemic, all staff members are strictly prohibited from leaving Beijing, strictly commuting to work, eating out, and consciously doing good health management after work. The Security Section should strengthen the access control of the three courtyards, and strictly control the entrance and exit of the gates and all foreign personnel. All personnel enter the hospital area for temperature monitoring and must enter the hospital with work cards to reduce unnecessary travel during work. Non-work must not be connected to the department, try to use the phone or WeChat, SMS and other means of communication. Try to have as few meetings and short meetings as possible to control the number of participants.
The fourth is to insist on strict management with "wartime thinking."
Highlight political security, ideological security, network information security, security of confidential work, laboratory biological security, food security, etc. The epidemic data collection, statistics and reporting will be done well, and information security and confidentiality security incidents will be resolutely prevented. Front-line personnel engaged in flow regulation, pathogen inspection, and close management should strictly implement prevention and control guidelines and operating specifications, do a good job of personal protection requirements, and ensure personal safety. Strengthen laboratory management and resolutely put an end to the theft, leakage, and loss of pathogenic bacteria (poisons) and various samples.
Fifth, we must adhere to the "wartime need" service guarantee.
The equipment and material security department shall fully protect the front line, make plans in advance in accordance with the needs of the prevention and control of the flow of returning adults in Beijing, and evaluate and reserve and manage protective materials daily. Implement the "precision arrangement of materials" requirements, timely grasp the material inventory and daily consumption, and carry out scientific and efficient deployment, not only to implement a convenient procurement process to meet the needs of prevention and control, but also to seriously fulfill the "three major and one big" and internal control requirements. All employees should implement self-protection requirements, and non-epidemic personnel should not wear medical N95 masks, including N95 masks purchased by themselves.
Sixth, we must adhere to "war discipline" and take it seriously.
The current situation of epidemic prevention and control is extremely severe, and the responsibility for prevention and control is more important than Mount Tai. The big battle is coming. All party branches must mobilize their thoughts and gather the masses to give full play to the role of battle fortress; cadres at all levels must lead by example, dare to take the lead and give full play to the leading role; each party member must advance, take on the burden and give full play to the vanguard Exemplary role. All party branches, departments, and cadres at all levels must earnestly perform their main responsibilities, and disciplinary commissions must perform their supervisory responsibilities to ensure the smooth flow of government orders and prohibitions.
All middle-level cadres and branch secretaries who violated the disciplinary requirements in the entire epidemic prevention and control work and caused significant adverse effects and serious consequences to the center and the city's prevention and control work were all suspended or dismissed in advance; timely public notification of typical problems investigated and dealt with.
北京市疾控中心党委发布战时状态令
I was listening on ksat local news, a reporter asked about self isolating in San Antonio and then the followup question was about a college prof (here in Texas?) and his wife was in isolation and he was iving with her and still teaching???? answer was that we don't know about that? so what are the rules of home isolation???
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
WE HAVE A MINIMUM OF 500,000 INFECTED AND A MINIMUM OF 50,000 DEAD AND ALL OF THEM: THE CHINESE WAR CRIMINALS AND THE WHO FRAUDS AND THE MEDIA WHORES ARE NOW OUTED AND SHOWN TO BE EVEN MORE FAKE NEWS. TRUMP, WELL HE DECIDED HE NEEDED TO GET IUT IN FRONT OF THE CHASM I MENTONED
GAME CHANGER WITH ACCURATE NUMBERS COMING FROM THE WEST NOW.
GAME CHANGER WITH ACCURATE NUMBERS COMING FROM THE WEST NOW.
vector7
Dot Collector
Watch the interesting nervous questions and answers from the reporter on the ground...
China Reports a Sharp 15k Spike now over 60k in New Coronavirus Cases and Deaths (7:32)
View: https://youtu.be/cmwYbarOqsk
China Reports a Sharp 15k Spike now over 60k in New Coronavirus Cases and Deaths (7:32)
Marthanoir
TB Fanatic
Rumour is they were forced to 'pinky promise'
There ain't no backsies on a pinky promise
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TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
ME neither.