ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

Knoxville's Joker

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There are a myriad of free resources avail that can tell you how to build shelter for nothing. All you need is a shovel and some hand tools. Blood and sweat.
But some people think they are made of sugar and will melt to nothing if they have to lift a finger and sweat. I say they are made of something stinky and they become foul when they have to sweat...
 

jward

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uhoh. She knew. I got a tyvm assortment o' goodies conveyed in a yellow n blue gift bag this morn, and "i" knew.
..hope that scarf can double as a parachute if/when she falls outta da window :whistle:



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The wife of Russia's ambassador to Germany voted in Berlin wearing a blue and yellow scarf

As soon as attention was drawn to it on social networks, the Foreign Ministry hurried to justify itself - the scarf had not only yellow and blue shades, but also black and white.
View: https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1769390424702038140?s=20
 

Knoxville's Joker

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uhoh. She knew. I got a tyvm assortment o' goodies conveyed in a yellow n blue gift bag this morn, and "i" knew.
..hope that scarf can double as a parachute if/when she falls outta da window :whistle:



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The wife of Russia's ambassador to Germany voted in Berlin wearing a blue and yellow scarf

As soon as attention was drawn to it on social networks, the Foreign Ministry hurried to justify itself - the scarf had not only yellow and blue shades, but also black and white.
View: https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1769390424702038140?s=20
Good, Europe is learning they need their own permanent military...
 

jward

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I hope that is why they've increased their defense budgets almost across the board, and been reworking their war doctrines; I'd feared it meant we were already hip dip in ww3.

Much nicer to "just" be easing into a multi-polar world than groups to be actively planning nuclear strikes that they're committed to carrying out :eek:
Good, Europe is learning they need their own permanent military...
 

jward

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:hmm:

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BREAKING:

The China Defense Ministry says that China is ready to intervene militarily anywhere if the United States or NATO decides to attack Russia.
 

Tristan

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Plus protections from nuclear war are NOT cheap. With half the population unable to raise $400 in an emergency (they have to either sell something or borrow), preparations are a fantasy for most folks.

I've known folks that didn't have two quarters to rub together, that had full sleeve tats and more, who ate at mid-grade resturants ($$$) at least a couple times a month or more and takeout most nights, had one or more Starbucks daily, leased a really nice vehicle, and had lots of jewelry or 'toys'.

Life's full of choices.

Some who don't have a $400 emergency fund have made the best choices given their situation, some haven't.
 

Tristan

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Plus protections from nuclear war are NOT cheap. With half the population unable to raise $400 in an emergency (they have to either sell something or borrow), preparations are a fantasy for most folks.


And the US apparently no longer has a grain reserve, no longer has a USDA food bank (Government 'cheese'), and really no plans to deal with the contingency that they are driving us to.

Is any further evidence necessary to judge the intent and orientation of our 'Leaders'?
 

Knoxville's Joker

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I hope that is why they've increased their defense budgets almost across the board, and been reworking their war doctrines; I'd feared it meant we were already hip dip in ww3.

Much nicer to "just" be easing into a multi-polar world than groups to be actively planning nuclear strikes that they're committed to carrying out :eek:
Trump warned them and was rebuffed, and they FAFO'd after Ukraine forced them to relearn why they need massive logistic military stockpiles. And they regret selling off stocks after the end of the cold war now, but we all sure don't...
 

von Koehler

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:hmm:

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BREAKING:

The China Defense Ministry says that China is ready to intervene militarily anywhere if the United States or NATO decides to attack Russia.

The navy will impose a blockage of China and hundreds of millions will be starved out in months. China needs to import fuel, fertilizer, and food from overseas.

Chinese imports must travel through a number of narrow choke points.
 

Tristan

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Knoxville's Joker

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Let's hope!
China Observer, China Uncensored, spotlightonchina all basically say the same thing CCP is real toasty right now. Internal economy is being collapsed just to save the CCP. All foreign investment is pulling out after evergrande and covid. Belt and Road initiative funding is starting to default as well. All the corruption is so deeply rooted the citizenry is saying come in USA help us kick out CCP we want capitalism, not that capitalism can be any less corrupt...
 

Old Greek

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China Observer, China Uncensored, spotlightonchina all basically say the same thing CCP is real toasty right now. Internal economy is being collapsed just to save the CCP. All foreign investment is pulling out after evergrande and covid. Belt and Road initiative funding is starting to default as well. All the corruption is so deeply rooted the citizenry is saying come in USA help us kick out CCP we want capitalism, not that capitalism can be any less corrupt...
Good - I hope they collapse! (CCP)
 

mecoastie

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The navy will impose a blockage of China and hundreds of millions will be starved out in months. China needs to import fuel, fertilizer, and food from overseas.

Chinese imports must travel through a number of narrow choke points.
In the short term maybe. Our Navy is short of everything needed to stay in the fight long term. China will throw everything they have at our Navy if they try to impose a blockade. Those same choke points control a lot of the world’s trade. How would the US impose a blockade? How do they make sure they are targeting the right ships?
 

jed turtle

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Seems like adrenochrome addicts (the elite) need an extreme diversion world-wide, too much attention has been given to the object of their addiction (tortured children- sources of the adrenochrome), and too many peasants are suggesting/ demanding the old fashioned “hanging from a lamp post” solution.
for the WEF group, a world wide massive die-off is necessary. The COVID vaccine was supposed to provide that ”non-violent” solution but Trump invoked the “only by voluntary mandate” which really screwed up The plan.

the “living on the edge of famine for centuries“ population of China is an easy target environment for starting the next juicy WW. they are also a great feedstock nation for providing an invasion force to also cause the collapse North America via terrorism and pandemic-inducing disease vectors.

do not think I enjoy writing the “captain obvious“ lines above, but I have noticed that most of my national compatriots, having been raised on television news and entertainment, have absolutely no clue to what their immediate future holds for them - and us as well…. I have a liberal family member who actually thinks that all these illegal aliens are going to be just fine additions to the population of North America, and that I was simply wrong about their sinister intentions. I advised her that it will not give me any satisfaction when that moment arrives that I will be able to say “told you so”…
 

Abert

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The navy will impose a blockage of China and hundreds of millions will be starved out in months. China needs to import fuel, fertilizer, and food from overseas.

Chinese imports must travel through a number of narrow choke points.
Where do you get this stuff???
China and Russia have rail lines - Russia is one of the worlds largest producer of grains - zero problem providing food to China.
And BTW how long would it take China to "remove" the blocking ships - not to mention a blockade would be considered an act of war.
 

Abert

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Can NATO Survive a Loss in Ukraine?​

Can NATO Survive a Loss in Ukraine?

17 March 2024 by Larry Johnson 2 Comments

Killing off a bureaucracy — whether civilian or military — is nigh impossible. But the impending defeat of Ukraine on the battlefield by Russia presents one of those watershed moments in history where the raison d’etre of NATO will be exposed as a fraud. Much has been made in recent months about NATO’s supposed growing strength by citing the addition of Sweden and Finland as new NATO members. But this is illusory.

NATO’s problems go beyond its inadequate military resources. The very political consensus binding NATO together is coming apart. The recent verbal sniping between the French and the Germans over whether to commit NATO troops to Ukraine is emblematic of a much deeper rift.

NATO is a mess yet Western leaders and NATO commanders continue to indulge the fantasy that they are ready and capable of carrying out a combined arms military conflict with Russia. They are not.

Russia sent a deadly reminder of this fact in the form of an Iskander missile that hit a site in Odessa filled with French, Poles and Georgians. U.K. Defense Secretary Grant Shapps cancelled a planned visit to Odessa in the wake of this strike.
 

mecoastie

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Where do you get this stuff???
China and Russia have rail lines - Russia is one of the worlds largest producer of grains - zero problem providing food to China.
And BTW how long would it take China to "remove" the blocking ships - not to mention a blockade would be considered an act of war.
Those rail lines cant handle near the amount of grain/food that China needs. Most of the Russian grain is still imported by sea. Same with the Russian oil and pipelines. Not enough capacity. Both countries are working on it but are years away from making a dent in the amount shipped via the sea.

A blockade is a fantasy. Act of war aside the logistics make it impossible.
 

Abert

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Those rail lines cant handle near the amount of grain/food that China needs. Most of the Russian grain is still imported by sea. Same with the Russian oil and pipelines. Not enough capacity. Both countries are working on it but are years away from making a dent in the amount shipped via the sea.

A blockade is a fantasy. Act of war aside the logistics make it impossible.
True - more rail lines and roads are in the works and as noted if this "sea blockade" was ever attempted we would trigger WW3.

What it find disturbing is this general view among a section of the population and even government leaders that the US can do (and has) whatever it wants to another nation to enforce US policies. For the last 50+ years - no problem overthrowing governments, seizing ships both private and commercial, invading, bombing, blocking financial transactions, SANCTIONS - the list goes on - effectively anything they want to do. By and large this has been the core of US diplomatic policies in its relations to other nations for decades.

Post WW2 and more so after the fall of the Soviet Union in the 90's the US was viewed as the worlds only Super Power with the largest economy and military that could enforce its world views. Dozens - of mostly smaller nations - have experienced this form of US diplomacy. But that is changing.

The US on its 50+ year Power High - is now attempting to use these same policies - not on some backwater 3rd world nation - but on two other major world powers.

This is why the outcome of this Ukraine war is so critical - the world is watching as the US attempts to break Russia - to have it submit to the US - to accept US dominance. Failure to win against these vodka drinking potato farmers and this illusion of US Omnipotent Power collapses world wide.

The current unipolar US dominated "world order" will be no more - replaced by a "diverse" multipolar group of nations FREE of US dominance. The outcome (one way or another) of this conflict will be an historic turning point in world history.
 

Abert

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Putin warns the West a Russia-NATO conflict is just one step from World War Three​

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ato-conflict-is-just-one-step-ww3-2024-03-17/
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  • Putin says NATO personnel already in Ukraine
  • Russia may take buffer zone out of Ukraine regions
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  • Putin says the world is laughing at U.S. election
MOSCOW, March 18 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin warned the West on Monday that a direct conflict between Russia and the U.S.-led NATO military alliance would mean the planet was one step away from World War Three but said hardly anyone wanted such a scenario.

The Ukraine war has triggered the deepest crisis in Moscow's relations with the West since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. Putin has often warned of the risks of nuclear war but says he has never felt the need to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
 

Abert

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Putin Won The Presidential Election. Ukraine Is Preparing For Escalation.​

As expected - while in support of democracy Zelensky has cancel elections in Ukraine
Also as expected - Joe Biden has not congratulated Putin on his win
Latest updates (12 min)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpNOIKXsp3k

Update:
 
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jward

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russia won this one eh. . .


US military operations across the Sahel are at risk after Niger ends cooperation​


Updated 9:41 AM CDT, March 17, 2024
DAKAR, Senegal (AP) — The United States scrambled on Sunday to assess the future of its counterterrorism operations in the Sahel after Niger’s junta said it was ending its yearslong military cooperation with Washington following a visit by top U.S. officials.
The U.S. military has hundreds of troops stationed at a major airbase in northern Niger that deploys flights over the vast Sahel region — south of the Sahara Desert — where jihadi groups linked to al-Qaida and the Islamic State group operate.

Top U.S. envoy Molly Phee returned to the capital, Niamey, this week to meet with senior government officials, accompanied by Marine Gen. Michael Langley, head of the U.S. military’s African Command. She had previously visited in December, while acting Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland traveled to the country in August.
The State Department said Sunday in a post on X, formerly Twitter, that talks were frank and that it was in touch with the junta. It wasn’t clear whether the U.S. has any leeway left to negotiate a deal to stay in the country.

Niger had been seen as one of the last nations in the restive region that Western nations could partner with to beat back growing jihadi insurgencies. The U.S. and France had more than 2,500 military personnel in the region until recently, and together with other European countries had invested hundreds of millions of dollars in military assistance and training.
But that changed in July when mutinous soldiers ousted the country’s democratically elected president and months later asked French forces to leave.

The U.S. military still had some 650 personnel working in Niger in December, according to a White House report to Congress. The Niger base is used for both manned and unmanned surveillance operations. In the Sahel the U.S. also supports ground troops, including accompanying them on missions. However, such accompanied missions have been scaled back since U.S. troops were killed in a joint operation in Niger in 2017.

It’s unclear what prompted the junta’s decision to suspend military ties. On Saturday, the junta’s spokesperson, Col. Maj. Amadou Abdramane, said U.S. flights over Niger’s territory in recent weeks were illegal. Meanwhile, Insa Garba Saidou, a local activist who assists Niger’s military rulers with their communications, criticized U.S. efforts to force the junta to pick between strategic partners.
“The American bases and civilian personnel cannot stay on Nigerien soil any longer,” he told The Associated Press.
After her trip in December, Phee, the top U.S. envoy, told reporters she had “good discussions” with junta leaders and called on them to set a timeline for elections in return for restoring military and aid ties. But she also said the U.S. had warned Niamey against forging closer ties with Russia.
Neighboring Mali and Burkina Faso, which have experienced two coups each since 2020, have turned to Moscow for security support. After the coup in Niger, the military also turned to the Russian mercenary group Wagner for help.

Cameron Hudson, who served with the Central Intelligence Agency and State Department in Africa, said the incident shows the diminution of U.S. leverage in the region and that Niger was angered by Washington’s attempt to pressure the junta to steer clear of Russia. “This is ironic since one mantra of the Biden Administration has been that Africans are free to choose their partners,” he said.
The U.S. delegation visit coincided with the start of Ramadan, a month of dawn-to-dusk fasting and intense prayer for Muslims. Niger’s junta leader, Gen. Abdourahmane Tchiani, refused to meet them. A U.S. press conference at the embassy in Niger was canceled.

The junta spokesperson, speaking on state television, said junta leaders met the U.S. delegation only out of courtesy and described their tone as condescending.
Aneliese Bernard, a former U.S. State Department official who specialized in African affairs and director of Strategic Stabilization Advisors, a risk advisory group, said the recent visit had failed and the U.S. needs to take a critical look at how it’s doing diplomacy not just in Niger but in the whole region.

“What’s going on in Niger and the Sahel cannot be looked at continuously in a vacuum as we always do,” she said. “The United States government tends to operate with blinders on. We can’t deny that our deteriorating relationships in other parts of the world: the Gulf, Israel and others, all have an influential impact on our bilateral relations in countries in West Africa.”

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Mednick reported from Jerusalem. AP diplomatic correspondent Matthew Lee contributed from Frankfurt, Germany.





What the media hides.
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Niger terminated the agreement with the US military and demanded it leaves the country immediately

Americans just lost their main base in the Sahel, where they have MQ-9 Reaper drones, C-17 planes and special forces
View: https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1769184250895409262?s=20
 

jward

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North Korea has shipped around 7,000 containers of arms to Russia to use in its war with Ukraine since the transfers began around last July, South Korea says. - AFP
 

Abert

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“What’s going on in Niger and the Sahel cannot be looked at continuously in a vacuum as we always do,” she said. “The United States government tends to operate with blinders on. We can’t deny that our deteriorating relationships in other parts of the world: the Gulf, Israel and others, all have an influential impact on our bilateral relations in countries in West Africa.”
A New World Order is taking form - and it not good for the US

“What’s going on in Niger and the Sahel cannot be looked at continuously in a vacuum as we always do,” she said. “The United States government tends to operate with blinders on. We can’t deny that our deteriorating relationships in other parts of the world: the Gulf, Israel and others, all have an influential impact on our bilateral relations in countries in West Africa.”

Not only West Africa but relations around the world - NOT FEELING the LOVE
 

Walrus

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Top U.S. envoy Molly Phee returned to the capital, Niamey, this week to meet with senior government officials, accompanied by Marine Gen. Michael Langley, head of the U.S. military’s African Command. She had previously visited in December, while acting Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland traveled to the country in August.

The junta spokesperson, speaking on state television, said junta leaders met the U.S. delegation only out of courtesy and described their tone as condescending.
Aneliese Bernard, a former U.S. State Department official who specialized in African affairs and director of Strategic Stabilization Advisors, a risk advisory group, said the recent visit had failed and the U.S. needs to take a critical look at how it’s doing diplomacy not just in Niger but in the whole region.
Good golly, Miss Molly! Face plant!
 

smokin

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US Senator calls for Ukraine's accession to NATO​

Story by European Pravda

US Republican Senator Lindsey Graham has backed Ukraine's NATO membership as the country with the most combat experience.

Source: Graham during his visit to Kyiv, as reported by European Pravda

Quote: "Ukraine should join NATO.

My message to NATO is this: I respect you, allies, but none of you understand how to fight a war like Ukraine."


Details: He emphasised that Ukraine now has the best combat experience and can use the most advanced weapons to exceed expectations.

"If I had to choose people to go to war with, you would be at the top of the list! And this is not a slap in the face of our allies with whom we were in Iraq or Afghanistan; you simply now have the best combat experience and are able to use the latest weapons that you have been provided with, at a level that exceeds our expectations," said the senator.

As reported previously, Lindsey Graham will also ask the administration of President Joe Biden to recognise Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism.

In addition, Graham, who sparked a debate about Ukraine's elections last year, agreed that holding them during a war was problematic.
 

Housecarl

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Putin’s Nuclear Theatrics​

The Kremlin continues its clumsy nuclear games with threats to send Russian weapons to Belarus.
By Tom Nichols
MARCH 18, 2024, 6:19 PM ET

Cold War Games

Last week, Foreign Policy reported that Putin was in the process of making good on his announcement from last spring to station Russian nuclear arms in Belarus, thus putting Russia’s nuclear-strike forces that much closer to both Ukraine and NATO. Foreign Policy attributed the news to “Western officials,” but so far, only Lithuania’s defense minister has offered a public confirmation. Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko claimed in December that weapons had arrived in his country, but no public evidence confirmed that assertion, and so far, no Western governments or intelligence services have commented on this news.

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