INTL Zimbabwe on brink of collapse as outbreak of cholera spreads

Altura Ct.

Veteran Member
It is almost unfathomable that this youtube video was Rhodesia a little over 30 years ago. The "breadbasket" of Africa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYDg3ofh7dM

Beware the do-gooders manipulated by the socialist/globalist agenda.

Enemies both foreign and domestic.

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• Hundreds flee to South Africa seeking treatment
• Crisis much worse than thought, Elders group says

Tuesday November 25 2008

The situation in Zimbabwe may soon "implode" as a cholera outbreak spreads and basic services collapse, South African leaders and a group of international statesmen warned yesterday.

On the eve of talks in South Africa between Robert Mugabe's Zanu-PF party and opposition rivals, South African leaders sharply upgraded their crisis assessment and warned of Zimbabwe's imminent collapse if urgent action was not taken.

About 6,000 people have contracted cholera in recent weeks, according to the UN, and almost 300 have died. A chronic shortage of medicine has sent hundreds of people south to seek treatment in South Africa.

"Unless this root cause of the political absence of a legitimate government is solved, the situation will get worse and may implode and collapse ... It is now an urgent matter, because people are dying," said South Africa's caretaker president, Kgalema Motlanthe.

Three eminent statesmen representing a group called the Elders, which was established last year to tackle international issues, said Zimbabwe was in a far worse position than previously thought.

The team - the former UN secretary general Kofi Annan, former US president Jimmy Carter and Graça Machel, the rights activist and wife of Nelson Mandela - had planned to visit Zimbabwe last weekend to assess the humanitarian situation but were refused visas by the government. Instead they remained in South Africa talking to aid groups, refugees and civil society leaders.

Carter told reporters yesterday: "The entire basic structure ... is broken down. These are all indications that the crisis in Zimbabwe is much greater, much worse than we ever could have imagined."

The country has been locked in political stalemate since presidential elections in March when Morgan Tsvangirai, the leader of Zimbabwe's opposition Movement for Democratic Change, defeated Mugabe in the first round of voting. Tsvangirai pulled out of the June run-off however due to violence and intimidation of his supporters, allowing Mugabe to claim victory.

Attempts to agree a power sharing arrangement have foundered as Mugabe insisted on keeping most of the ministries for his Zanu-PF party.

In the meantime, the economy has disintegrated and the health system is close to breakdown. Four big hospitals, including two in Harare, have effectively closed their doors to new patients owing to a shortage of basic supplies and running water, the Elders said. Even women needing caesarean sections are being turned away.

Machel said it was clear that the state could no longer offer basic services and was failing its people.

"We have a sense that either the leadership doesn't have a clear picture of how deep the suffering is of their own people, or they don't care," she said.

The African National Congress leader, Jacob Zuma, who is likely to become South Africa's president next year, expressed concern about the cholera outbreak and said the ANC would send a delegation to Zimbabwe to assess the situation.

"We are dealing with a situation that is affecting the lives of people," he said.

South Africa has already threatened to withhold £18m in food aid to Zimbabwe unless a political solution is found.

Zuma and Motlanthe tried to increase the pressure on Mugabe and Tsvangirai to implement a power-sharing agreement and address the growing humanitarian crisis.

But unless Mugabe makes concessions, Tsvangirai will be left in a difficult position, forced to choose between accepting a weak position in government and holding out, leaving the country's dire socioeconomic situation to worsen.

Annan said that leaders of the Southern African Development Community had not yet put enough pressure on Zimbabwe to find a political solution.
"I think it is clear that SADC should have done more," he said after meeting Zuma and Motlanthe yesterday.

The Elders said they were shocked by the stories they had heard coming out of Zimbabwe.

"It is not just the extent of Zimbabwe's humanitarian crisis, but the speed of deterioration in the past few weeks that is most worrying," said Annan.

"The scale, depth and urgency of the situation are under-reported."

The cholera epidemic has been caused by the collapse in the water and sanitation infrastructure. Cases have been reported in nine of the country's 10 provinces. Fatality rates are well above the international emergency rate of 1% due to a lack of drugs and medical assistance.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/25/zimbabwe-internationalaidanddevelopment
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Good thing

Good thing they got rid of that oppressive, evil White government! Starvation and Cholera'll show the world what African Marxists can do! Yeah...that'll show 'em.

Best regards
Doc
 

lgsracer

Veteran Member
I see Corporal Morbus has once again reared his ugly head. As the toast in the old British officer's mess went "here's to a bloody war or a sickly season".
 
isn't

that one of the places where they hack all the white farmers to death while raping the wives and daughters before they are slaughtered too?

Hmmm., shame about the cholera.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Good thing they got rid of that oppressive, evil White government! Starvation and Cholera'll show the world what African Marxists can do! Yeah...that'll show 'em.

Best regards
Doc

For as long as documentation has existed- chimps and gorillas have shown their ability to abstractly and creatively use sticks as tools. One of the most common methods employed is to poke a stick into a termite mound- pull out a stick full of termites and enjoy the delicacy of 'termite on a stick'

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enrich_chimp_termite9_small.jpg

The chimps use sticks which they find in the exhibit to dip into the holes and like termites, the mixture adheres to their sticks. Sometimes they will modify a stick that is not doing a good enough job.

http://www.honoluluzoo.org/enrichment_chimps_forage.htm

Now after generations of abundance and prosperity once the hard working and intelligent White man tamed Zimbabwe- the negros decided that they were oppressed and they overthrew White rule.

In spite of their training on the farms- the intact infrastructure and the experience of civilization- in a few short months- look what the negro has reverted back to....


Hungry in Zimbabwe: `If You Rest, You Starve'

`If you rest, you starve': Finding food in rural Zimbabwe is an endless scavenger hunt


By ANGUS SHAW Associated Press Writer
MHANGURA, Zimbabwe November 19, 2008 (AP)
The Associated Press


Katy Phiri, who is in her 70s, picks up single corn kernels spilled from trucks that ferry the harvest to market. She says she hasn't eaten for three days.

Rebecca Chipika, a child of 9, prods a stick into a termite mound to draw out insects. She sweeps them into a bag for her family's evening meal.

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Children prodding sticks into a termite mound to draw out insects to eat near Murehwa, Zimbabwe, Sunday, Nov. 16, 2008.

These scenes from a food catastrophe are unfolding in Doma, a district of rural Zimbabwe where journalists rarely venture. It's a stronghold of President Robert Mugabe's party and his enforcers and informants are everywhere.

At a school for villagers visited by The Associated Press, enrollment is down to four pupils from 20. The teachers still willing to work in this once-thriving farming and mining district 160 miles northeast of Harare, the capital, say parents pay them in corn, cooking oil, goats or chickens. One trip by bus to the nearest bank to draw their government salaries costs more than teachers earn in a month.

Meanwhile, the country is in political paralysis following disputed elections in March. A power-sharing deal signed two months ago has stalled over the allocation of ministries between President Robert Mugabe's party and opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai's Movement for Democratic Change.

Shingirayi Chiyamite is a trader from Harare who brings household goods to the countryside to barter for crops. He says a 12-inch bar of laundry soap exchanges for 22 pounds of corn. He crisscrosses the land in search of the few villages that have corn to spare, hauls his purchases to the highway and hitchhikes back to the city. Some of the corn will feed his family; the rest he sells. He is constantly on the move.

"If you rest, you starve," he says.

Information is almost as scarce as food. Survival is the obsession.

Cell phones operate only sporadically. State radio has not been received since the district relay beacon broke down eight months ago.

Mhangura, a town of about 3,000 people, has had no running water for months. Power outages happen daily because of a lack of cash to maintain utilities. People walk about three miles to a dam to fill pails or gasoline cans.

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A child shows termites caught to eat near Murehwa, Zimbabwe, Sunday, Nov. 16, 2008.

Full AP article here...

http://abcnews.go.com/International/WireStory?id=6286920&page=3
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
Zimbabwe Health Crisis "A Disaster of Unimaginable Proportions"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com

Jirair Ratevosian
Posted November 24, 2008
Imagine for just a moment hospitals shutting down in downtown Los Angeles,
dead bodies sprinkled over Sunset Boulevard, free-flowing water and
electricity a figment of the imagination and Governor Schwarzenegger
intentionally blocking humanitarian relief and food aid into the crumbling
state. Something so unimaginable can never happen in this day and age,
right? Wrong.

Zimbabwe, a county of 13 million people in southern Africa has been on the
brink of collapse for some time now. However, just over the last two weeks,
a complete collapse of the health system and sanitation infrastructure has
given way to a major cholera epidemic spreading throughout the country, and
a breakdown in delivery of medications for HIV-AIDS, TB, malaria and chronic
illness.

The government's obstructionism is speeding up the massive loss of life.
Just this weekend, a group including former U.N. chief Kofi Annan and former
U.S. President Carter had to cancel a humanitarian assessment visit to
Zimbabwe when the Mugabe government refused them visas, making travel to the
country impossible. The New York Times reported that "Mr. Mugabe's decision
to forbid a visit by (the group), was a measure of the Zimbabwean leader's
disdain for international opinion at a time when deepening hunger, raging
hyperinflation and the collapse of health, sanitation and education services
have crippled Zimbabwe".

The situation is so out of hand that health workers from Harare Central and
Parirenyatwa Hospitals took the courageous step of publicly protesting this
week against the state of the public health system. They gathered in the
street, calling for an urgent response to the situation. However, riot
police forcefully dispersed the hundreds of doctors, nurses and other health
workers who had assembled to protest poor salaries and working conditions.
In fact, according to this BBC report, riot police sealed the exits of the
country's main referral hospital, Parirenyatwa, to prevent staff including
doctors, specialists, nurses and engineers from marching into the city
center. "Undeterred by such threats, we continued marching but we were
thoroughly beaten by the members of the police force which effectively ended
the demonstration, but we believe our voices were heard!" said one
Information Officer for the Zimbabwe Health Students' Network.

The health situation in Zimbabwe, which has been declining for years, is now
untenable. Public health workers in Harare report that due to lack of
medicine, equipment, services, and staff, public hospitals and clinics are
essentially closed, resulting in preventable deaths. There is no access to
care for those who cannot afford private clinics. The only maternity
hospital in the capital is also closed. Patients with fractures, meningitis
and other acute and dangerous conditions are being sent home, according to
another medical source.

According to the Zimbabwe Association of Doctors for Human Rights, a
non-partisan and non-political professional association for doctors and
other health professionals in Zimbabwe, authorities closed indefinitely the
country's most prominent medical school and sent students away. Essential
medicines are unavailable to treat the very diseases that the government's
gross negligence has exacerbated. Anti-retroviral therapy for HIV/AIDS
patients and TB treatment for chronically ill patients has been severely
disrupted.

U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs, Jendayi Frazer,
reproached the Harare government for failing to maintain the health
infrastructure. The deteriorating water and sanitation system has led to a
cholera epidemic spreading throughout the country and daily death tolls are
on the rise. Nearly 300 people have died in Zimbabwe in recent weeks in the
cholera outbreak which has hit about 6,000 people, the The World Health
Organization told the BBC last Friday.

Fresh water is no longer pumped into urban areas, which will only exacerbate
the spread of this infectious disease caused by contaminated water. One
doctor at Harare hospital described the situation as a "disaster of
unimaginable proportions."

Physicians for Human Rights (PHR), in a press release issued on November 19
stated, "Given the continued gross negligence of the government of Zimbabwe
and the callous disregard for the safety and wellbeing of its citizens,
together with the dire signs of impending lethal epidemic disease, the
Zimbabwe government must admit its failure to manage the national health
system and seek assistance from the international community." The
organization is calling on governments of the world to act with the utmost
urgency. PHR is circulating a petition this week to urge Secretary of State
Condoleezza Rice to take decisive action immediately.

Diplomatic isolation and economic sanctions against the Mugabe regime have
thus far failed to curtail widespread and systematic human rights violations
including willful denial of health care and obstruction of humanitarian aid
as well as mass killing, forced displacement, torture and arbitrary arrest.
The current government has acted with impunity and must be held to account.
"We have been left uncertain of our future which we have sweated for all
these years and hopes of emancipating ourselves have been shattered," stated
the Information Officer for Zimbabwe Health Students' Network.
 

Binkerthebear

Veteran Member
Good thing they got rid of that oppressive, evil White government! Starvation and Cholera'll show the world what African Marxists can do! Yeah...that'll show 'em.

Best regards
Doc

Wait until we see what the new American Marxists can do. :shkr:
 

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Altura Ct.;3140808 ...has sent hundreds of people south to seek treatment in South Africa. [/QUOTE said:
This is a communicable disease, so they are potentially spreading the disease even farther.:shkr:
 
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prepgirl44

Veteran Member
World Health Organization (WHO)
Fact sheet N°107
November 2008

Cholera

Cholera is an acute diarrhoeal infection caused by ingestion of the bacterium Vibrio cholerae. Transmission occurs through direct faecal-oral contamination or through ingestion of contaminated water and food. The disease is characterized in its most severe form by a sudden onset of acute watery diarrhoea that can lead to death by severe dehydration and kidney failure. The extremely short incubation period - two hours to five days - enhances the potentially explosive pattern of outbreaks, as the number of cases can rise very quickly. About 75% of people infected with cholera do not develop any symptoms. However, the pathogens stay in their faeces for 7 to 14 days and are shed back into the environment, potentially infecting other individuals. Cholera is an extremely virulent disease that affects both children and adults. Unlike other diarrhoeal diseases, it can kill healthy adults within hours. Individuals with lower immunity, such as malnourished children or people living with HIV, are at greater risk of death if infected by cholera.


Background

During the 19th century, cholera spread repeatedly from its original reservoir or source in the Ganges delta in India to the rest of the world, before receding to South Asia. Six pandemics were recorded that killed millions of people across Europe, Africa and the Americas. The seventh pandemic, which is still ongoing, started in 1961 in South Asia, reached Africa in 1971 and the Americas in 1991. The disease is now considered to be endemic in many countries and the pathogen causing cholera cannot currently be eliminated from the environment.

Two serogroups of V. cholerae - O1 and O139 - can cause outbreaks. The main reservoirs are human beings and aquatic sources such as brackish water and estuaries, often associated with algal blooms (plankton). Recent studies indicate that global warming might create a favourable environment for V. cholerae and increase the incidence of the disease in vulnerable areas. V. cholerae O1 causes the majority of outbreaks worldwide. The serogroup O139, first identified in Bangladesh in 1992, possesses the same virulence factors as O1, and creates a similar clinical picture. Currently, the presence of O139 has been detected only in South-East and East Asia, but it is still unclear whether V. cholerae O139 will extend to other regions. Careful epidemiological monitoring of the situation is recommended and should be reinforced. Other strains of V. cholerae apart from O1 and O139 can cause mild diarrhoea but do not develop into epidemics.


Risk factors and vulnerable populations

Cholera is mainly transmitted through contaminated water and food and is closely linked to inadequate environmental management. The absence or shortage of safe water and sufficient sanitation combined with a generally poor environmental status are the main causes of spread of the disease. Typical at-risk areas include peri-urban slums, where basic infrastructure is not available, as well as camps for internally displaced people or refugees, where minimum requirements of clean water and sanitation are not met. However, it is important to stress that the belief that cholera epidemics are caused by dead bodies after disasters, whether natural or man-made, is false. Nonetheless, rumours and panic are often rife in the aftermath of a disaster. On the other hand, the consequences of a disaster -- such as disruption of water and sanitation systems or massive displacement of population to inadequate and overcrowded camps -- can increase the risk of transmission, should the pathogen be present or introduced.

Since 2005, the re-emergence of cholera has been noted in parallel with the ever-increasing size of vulnerable populations living in unsanitary conditions. Cholera remains a global threat to public health and one of the key indicators of social development. While the disease is no longer an issue in countries where minimum hygiene standards are met, it remains a threat in almost every developing country. The number of cholera cases reported to WHO during 2006 rose dramatically, reaching the level of the late 1990s. A total of 236 896 cases were notified from 52 countries, including 6311 deaths, an overall increase of 79% compared with the number of cases reported in 2005. This increased number of cases is the result of several major outbreaks that occurred in countries where cases have not been reported for several years. It is estimated that only a small proportion of cases - less than 10% - are reported to WHO. The true burden of disease is therefore grossly underestimated.


Prevention and control of Cholera outbreaks

Among people developing symptoms, 80% of episodes are of mild or moderate severity. Among the remaining cases, 10%-20% develop severe watery diarrhoea with signs of dehydration. If untreated, as many as one in two people may die. With proper treatment, the fatality rate should stay below 1%.

Measures for the prevention of cholera have not changed much in recent decades, and mostly consist of providing clean water and proper sanitation to populations potentially affected. Health education and good food hygiene are equally important. In particular, systematic hand washing should be taught. Once an outbreak is detected, the usual intervention strategy is to reduce mortality by ensuring prompt access to treatment and controlling the spread of the disease.

The majority of patients - up to 80% - can be treated adequately through the administration of oral rehydration salts (WHO/UNICEF ORS standard sachet). Very severely dehydrated patients are treated through the administration of intravenous fluids, preferably Ringer lactate. Appropriate antibiotics can be given to severe cases to diminish the duration of diarrhoea, reduce the volume of rehydration fluids needed and shorten the duration of vibrio excretion. Routine treatment of a community with antibiotics, or "mass chemoprophylaxis", has no effect on the spread of cholera and can have adverse effects by increasing antimicrobial resistance. In order to ensure timely access to treatment, cholera treatment centres should be set up among the affected populations whenever feasible.

The provision of safe water and sanitation is a formidable challenge but remains the critical factor in reducing the impact of cholera outbreaks. Recommended control methods, including standardized case management, have proven effective in reducing the case-fatality rate. Comprehensive surveillance data are of paramount importance to guide the interventions and adapt them to each specific situation. In addition, cholera prevention and control is not an issue to be dealt by the health sector alone. Water, sanitation, education and communication are among the other sectors usually involved. A comprehensive multidisciplinary approach should be adopted for dealing with a potential cholera outbreak.


Oral cholera vaccines

The use of the parenteral cholera vaccine has never been recommended by WHO due to its low protective efficacy and the high occurrence of severe adverse reactions. An internationally licensed oral cholera vaccine (OCV) is currently available on the market and is suitable for travellers. This vaccine was proven safe and effective (85–90% after six months in all age groups, declining to 62% at one year among adults) and is available for individuals aged two years and above. It is administered in two doses 10-15 days apart and given in 150 ml of safe water. Its public health use in mass vaccination campaigns is relatively recent. Within the past few years several immunization campaigns were carried out with WHO support. In 2006, WHO published official recommendations for OCV use in complex emergencies.


Travel and trade

Today, no country requires proof of cholera vaccination as a condition for entry and the International Certificate of Vaccination no longer provides a specific space for recording cholera vaccinations.

Past experience clearly showed that quarantine measures and embargoes on movements of people and goods - especially food products - are unnecessary. At present, WHO has no information that food commercially imported from affected countries has been implicated in outbreaks of cholera in importing countries. The isolated cases of cholera that have been related to imported food have been associated with food which had been in the possession of individual travellers. Therefore, it may be concluded that food produced under good manufacturing practices poses only a negligible risk for cholera transmission. Consequently, WHO believes that food import restrictions, based on the sole fact that cholera is epidemic or endemic in a country, are not justified.


Related links

- The Global Task Force on Cholera Control

- Prevention and control of cholera outbreaks: WHO policy and recommendations [pdf 55kb]

- Cholera vaccine in complex emergencies [pdf 3.26Mb]
Oral cholera vaccine use in complex emergencies: what's next? Report of WHO meeting, 14-16 December 2005, Cairo, Egypt



For more information contact:

WHO Media centre
Telephone: +41 22 791 2222
E-mail: mediainquiries@who.int

http://www.cdc.gov/nczved/dfbmd/disease_listing/cholera_ai.html
 

Oldotaku

Veteran Member
Someone really needs to grab Dim Jimmy by the ear, haul him to one of the South African border crossings, and scream into that ear:

THIS IS A DIRECT RESULT OF YOUR POLICIES, IDIOT!

If cholera is loose in Zimbabwe, and there is no modern health care, why are they claiming 6000 infections and only 300 deaths? Something isn't right there. People with cholera aren't walking any distances either. They might run (to a latrine), but not very far. Could it be they have lots of disentery with a few cholera cases mixed in?
 

Monkeywrench

Land Owner
And now we have Mr. Brzezinski back whispering "wisdom" in Mr. Obama's ear, like he did Carter. He and Carter supported Mugabe into power.

Pray for ALL the innocents, GOD's children of both races persecuted by this mad man. He is another one who has hitler has a role model.

This is coming...take oil
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
One would expect that after taking over these productive farms in a fertile country that there would be food for all.

I guess for some TSHHTfork- but you've got to wonder why they aren't eating the cow?

Zimbabweans eating cow dung as hunger deepens

Caritas staff in rural Zimbabwe are reporting that families are mixing their dwindling food supplies with cow dung to stave off hunger.

Caritas Internationalis Secretary General Lesley-Anne Knight said, “Our staff say that people in Zimbabwe are dropping dead on the streets from Cholera. They’ve witnessed people mixing cow dung with what’s left of their food to make it go further. This is poverty at its most dehumanising.”

Caritas aid operations are planning to ramp up across the country with hunger likely to increase after poor harvests.

A Caritas survey in the areas it works in October found 70 to 90 percent of households going hungry depending on the area and the rest on the brink of starving. At least 5.1 million people are facing starvation out of a population of 13 million people. Nearly 14,000 cases of Cholera have been reported.

It’s unknown how people living with HIV and AIDS are surviving without either the necessary medicines or the necessary level of nutrition that is key to the effectiveness of anti-retroviral treatment.

The country’s economy, agriculture, its education and healthcare systems have virtually collapsed. There is a vacuum in political leadership necessary to address the crisis. Power-sharing has been stalled for months when urgent action was needed.

Caritas members continue to provide direct food aid to over 600,000 people and indirectly help many more. They’re taking steps to address the cholera outbreak by increasing access to safe water and sanitation. These include the drilling of new wells and the distribution of hygiene kits.

Lesley-Anne Knight said, “Zimbabwe’s political impasse can continue no longer. An effective government that can rectify the policies that have put the country into this position must be established.

“The international community must maintain the pressure on Zimbabwe for an end to this crisis. We must also prepare ourselves for the implosion of the country and the catastrophe that will mean in terms of human suffering across the region. Zimbabwe’s neighbours must address the xenophobia directed at Zimbabwean refugees in their own countries.

“These are very challenging conditions for aid agencies to operate, but Caritas remains committed to delivering aid to the country in its hour of need.”

Please call Patrick Nicholson on +39 06 698 79 725 or +39 334 359 0700 or email nicholson@caritas.va with any requests

http://www.caritas.org/newsroom/press_releases/PressRelease10_12_09.html
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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I guess for some TSHHTfork- but you've got to wonder why they aren't eating the cow?

Imaginative- they probably don't OWN the cow. This is likely not "fresh from the beast"... "stuff". And as horrible as it sounds, IF the cow was somehow consuming whole grains, there would probably be enough undigested stuff in the feces to provide a few calories. That seems unlikely in the extreme, as any whole grains the animals could get access to would seem to be accessible to the humans.

There isn't "food for all", because of a combination of incredible greed and ignorance (farming is NOT just "stick a seed in the ground and then harvest in a few months"), plus the credit crisis (hit there long before we've seen it start) and the total collapse of their currency. Even the farmers who DO know what they're doing can't find funds to buy seed, fertilizer, etc. Plus, if they try to work their gardens or fields, Mugabe's thugs attack them.

Some of the people tried to establish roadside gardens... the government creeps destroyed them.

It's truly a rogue government at it's worst, and I do wonder what the difference is between that and Iraq. Oh... that's right! Zimbabwe doesn't have oil. Sigh...

Summerthyme
 

Bushcamp

Contributing Member
A couple of observations (from my close perspective in South Africa)

Only one border post between Zim and RSA - Beit Bridge. The border is a river, the Limpopo, which is actually fairly strong this time of year. However, cholera has been detected in this river (around last week monday or so) and it supplies both SA and Zim of drinking water. Keep in mind that 'rura' lAfrica does not get most of it's water from taps, they get it from streams, rivers, wells etc by bucket. This water is seldom, if ever, boiled.

They still get milk from the cow, that's why it's not eaten. There is no such thing as "not your cow" when you're hungry, a little desperate and willing in Africa.

The 'roadside' gardens and farms are not destroyed by the police (goverment creeps) - they are 'raided for insurgents' - iow, they are harvested by these armed guys.

There was NO credit crisis in Zim, their monetary collapse has nothing to do with credit. It was brought on by wrong (marxist) policies 'redistributing' white owned and operated farms to blacks. The 'beneficiaries' of these farms were not commercial, in other words they occupied the farms, did a little gardening for themselves, and left the rest of the farm to whomever wants to squat there. There is almost no commercial farming left in Zim, meaning that almost all food (from being a net exporter in early 80's) are imported or received from aid agencies. This caused untold damage to exchange rates.

The next thing that's going to strike is Malaria - the anophilis mosquito likes 'dirty' water, and people with less than ideal imune systems are very susceptible to Malaria, much more so than healthy individuals. Problem #2 regarding Malaria is that the medication to treat it (ie Norolol, which I've taken a few times, works wonders and used to be dirt cheap, around 1US$ for the complete course) is now not available anymore, due to manufacturing costs - ingredients needs to be imported.

Saddest thing is I see the same fate for us here in South Africa - we've already seen the 'liberation' of white owned farms, albeit being done on a paid basis (ie the white farmers got paid for their land) it is also leaving us with the problem of 'sustenance' versus 'commercial' farming. If you farm only for yourself, how is your Policeman/Doctor/IT guy etc going to eat?
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
That nation has ALREADY COLLAPSED. The international "powers that be" only await the death of most of it's occupants in engineered famine to re-seize the diamond, gold, oil and other precious resources that nation possesses. Once they are reduced to a sufficiently humbled and desperate remnant they will accept ANY "hope" ANY nation offers them even if they know it to be indistinguishable from the modern day equivalent of slavery. (An offer YOU won't be able to refuse when it comes around to the same engineered collapse and deliberate planned famine in America)

It is the MIDDLE CLASS that has been targeted to be TOAST.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Imaginative- they probably don't OWN the cow. This is likely not "fresh from the beast"... "stuff". And as horrible as it sounds, IF the cow was somehow consuming whole grains, there would probably be enough undigested stuff in the feces to provide a few calories. That seems unlikely in the extreme, as any whole grains the animals could get access to would seem to be accessible to the humans.

There isn't "food for all", because of a combination of incredible greed and ignorance (farming is NOT just "stick a seed in the ground and then harvest in a few months"), plus the credit crisis (hit there long before we've seen it start) and the total collapse of their currency. Even the farmers who DO know what they're doing can't find funds to buy seed, fertilizer, etc. Plus, if they try to work their gardens or fields, Mugabe's thugs attack them.

Some of the people tried to establish roadside gardens... the government creeps destroyed them.

It's truly a rogue government at it's worst, and I do wonder what the difference is between that and Iraq. Oh... that's right! Zimbabwe doesn't have oil. Sigh...

Summerthyme

Until "Land Reform" (euphemism for White Genocide) became the policy- Zimbabwe enjoyed increasing food (and other commodities) production nearly every year since 1980 and was known as "the breadbasket of Africa".

There was 'food for all' Zimbabweans along with medical care and clothing.

While farming there is certainly more than just putting a seed in the ground- the farms that were taken over were fully operational at the time of take over. The experienced farm workers were still there- and , in spite of Mugabe's thugs- the transition should have been relatively smooth.

While I do of course blame Mugabe- I was one of a few here who called for some type of intervention into Zimbabwe before we attacked Iraq; Iraq was, at least, stable. Zimbabwe- as several of us have been posting- is ripe for a easy Chinese takeover and the African natives are hardly sophisticated enough to engage in any intelligent or strategic diplomatic or military maneuvering. Tribal, warring, starving and backward is the history of all of Africa.

Why would the West would allow a positive and prosperous nation to fall into genocide and failure?
 
Until "Land Reform" (euphemism for White Genocide) became the policy- Zimbabwe enjoyed increasing food (and other commodities) production nearly every year since 1980 and was known as "the breadbasket of Africa".

There was 'food for all' Zimbabweans along with medical care and clothing.

While farming there is certainly more than just putting a seed in the ground- the farms that were taken over were fully operational at the time of take over. The experienced farm workers were still there- and , in spite of Mugabe's thugs- the transition should have been relatively smooth.

While I do of course blame Mugabe- I was one of a few here who called for some type of intervention into Zimbabwe before we attacked Iraq; Iraq was, at least, stable. Zimbabwe- as several of us have been posting- is ripe for a easy Chinese takeover and the African natives are hardly sophisticated enough to engage in any intelligent or strategic diplomatic or military maneuvering. Tribal, warring, starving and backward is the history of all of Africa.

Why would the West would allow a positive and prosperous nation to fall into genocide and failure?

because they're black and have no oil.
 

Richard

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While farming there is certainly more than just putting a seed in the ground- the farms that were taken over were fully operational at the time of take over. The experienced farm workers were still there- and , in spite of Mugabe's thugs- the transition should have been relatively smooth.


there may have been farm workers but no blacks capable of running the farms, if there were they would have done so
 
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