COMMUNISM Yuri Bezmenov Explains How to Brainwash an Entire Nation

marymonde

Veteran Member
Run time 8:55. I’m sure many of you have seen this before. I revisited and realised the last phase of implementing communism is normalisation. Is it any wonder we keep hearing “this is the new normal”? Decide for yourself where you think we are.

“In 1984, Soviet defector and KGB operative, Yuri Bezmenov, specializing in the fields of Marxist-Leninist propaganda and ideological subversion; warned us about the silent war being waged against America as part of a long term plan to take over and destroy the American system and way of life. YOUR way of life.

As you watch this clip, you'll realize he is describing EXACTLY what's happening in America TODAY, where by Obama and his gang of Marxist usurpers were just the culmination of a very long term plan, but are the ones who are about to bring it into fruition. Stay wise my friends... nothing is a coincidence.”

View: https://youtu.be/pgCnpCBORyM
 

Grumphau

Veteran Member
I think we are still in the Destabilization stage right now. I also think the Russians have changed the playbook slightly since the 1960's when Yuri was an agent. I would imagine that the Russians are trying to use home grown Leftist groups in the US as pawns or weapons. I think their strategic goal is the balkanize the US into smaller, weaker factions like the USSR when it broke up, so that we stay out of their sphere in their own strategic area. The more we fight each other, the better it is for them. The Russians don't want us to be communist anymore, they don't want us "Normalized" per say. They want us crippled and "Neutralized".
 

Meadowlark

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I don't think the ruskies have anything to do with this. What is happening is entirely domestic in origin. The DNC establishment made a faustian pact with the left, hoping to gain more votes and maintain their power. Problem is they have lost control of the situation trying to appease the far left. The establishment DNC is in danger of being eaten by the left who have effectively taken control of the democratic party.

Life time democrats who have always pulled the D lever are slowly starting to understand its not the party of their fathers day.
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
I don’t believe Russia is per say behind this either. However, those behind the scenes, whether you call them Illuminati, communists, banker elites, etc are. They took the playbook that Russia developed and ran with it. The idea and plan can be traced back to Russia, but the implementation has most likely exchanged a few hands, several times.
 
I think we are still in the Destabilization stage right now. I also think the Russians have changed the playbook slightly since the 1960's when Yuri was an agent. I would imagine that the Russians are trying to use home grown Leftist groups in the US as pawns or weapons. I think their strategic goal is the balkanize the US into smaller, weaker factions like the USSR when it broke up, so that we stay out of their sphere in their own strategic area. The more we fight each other, the better it is for them. The Russians don't want us to be communist anymore, they don't want us "Normalized" per say. They want us crippled and "Neutralized".
Substitute communists/marxists for "Russians" in your above comment, and you would be much closer to today's truth.

Recall who the Bolsheviks were/are, how western interests/Wall Street/City of London funded them through the 1917 overthrow of the Russian Tsar Nicholas II of Russia along with the forced substitution of atheism for Russian Christianity, as compared to today's Russian culture/government/economy/renewal and embrace of Russian Orthodox Christianity.


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I don’t believe Russia is per say behind this either. However, those behind the scenes, whether you call them Illuminati, communists, banker elites, etc are. They took the playbook that Russia developed and ran with it. The idea and plan can be traced back to Russia, but the implementation has most likely exchanged a few hands, several times.
My estimation is that modern Russia has had more than enough of communists and marxist running their affairs. Modern far-left politics are an internationally sponsored and planned effort, much as yesterday's Bolsheviks were - the communists/marxists never went away, just regrouped to cause trouble in the west.


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Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
I think that Russia wouldn't mind seeing a weakening US, especially if it took us out of the Middle East, but a chaotic US could be more of a problem to Russia than not. Both the neocons and the left want war with Russia in the worst way. Not China.
 
I think that Russia wouldn't mind seeing a weakening US, especially if it took us out of the Middle East, but a chaotic US could be more of a problem to Russia than not. Both the neocons and the left want war with Russia in the worst way. Not China.
Russia views the west, and the U.S. in particular, as an "ally" against the rise of out-of-control communism - particularly the flavor practiced by today's China.

Not suggesting that Russia does NOT have their own interests involved in all of this, nor are they "pure."


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Grumphau

Veteran Member
Substitute communists/marxists for "Russians" in your above comment, and you would be much closer to today's truth.

Recall who the Bolsheviks were/are, how western interests/Wall Street/City of London funded them through the 1917 overthrow of the Russian Tsar Nicholas II of Russia along with the forced substitution of atheism for Russian Christianity, as compared to today's Russian culture/government/economy/renewal and embrace of Russian Orthodox Christianity.

intothegoodnight

The communists and marxists are there for sure, and some of them are probably a by-product of the KGB's old programs in the US. I do think the Russians are still our enemy. Personally I like Russia and the Russian people and wish it were not so.

I do *not* recall the West supporting or funding Bolshevism at any point. I *do* recall American and British support for the White Army during the Russian Civil War and interventionist activity in Arkhangelsk. If you have information on Western support of Bolshevism I would be interested in seeing it.

And yes the Russians may be embracing Orthodox Christianity as a state religion, but I do not see evidence of faith coming from the nation's leadership. I would say that it is being used more as a tool by the state to give its people a cohesive national identity. If some find faith through it, then that's great. I mistrust their intentions.
 
The communists and marxists are there for sure, and some of them are probably a by-product of the KGB's old programs in the US. I do think the Russians are still our enemy. Personally I like Russia and the Russian people and wish it were not so.

I do *not* recall the West supporting or funding Bolshevism at any point. I *do* recall American and British support for the White Army during the Russian Civil War and interventionist activity in Arkhangelsk. If you have information on Western support of Bolshevism I would be interested in seeing it.

Several instances of such past conversations on this TB2K board - don't have the references at my fingertips, but this is old news to aware westerners of communism/marxism. Both NYC and City of London donors - some were avowed Zionists and wealthy Jews (as was Marx, the father of "modern" communism) - organized and managed this effort over a couple of decades prior to the 1917 Bolshevik revolution.

And yes the Russians may be embracing Orthodox Christianity as a state religion, but I do not see evidence of faith coming from the nation's leadership. I would say that it is being used more as a tool by the state to give its people a cohesive national identity. If some find faith through it, then that's great. I mistrust their intentions.
Has there EVER been a time in all of written history where governments, general trouble-makers and power-mongers did NOT utilize the cover of organized religion for their own purposes and ends? Catholic Church? Church of England? Islam? Militant hard-fisted Zionism prior to the formation of Israel? Recent "Catholic Charities" sponsorship/injection of muslim "refugees" into American society?


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JF&P

Deceased
I read J. Edgar Hoover's "Masters of Deceit" when I was in the eighth grade...so I have been an enthusiastic anti-communist all my life.

I have some theories as to where this is all heading and how it all ends for America...but I'm not in the mood to get flamed today.
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
“Masters of Deceit” and “The Naked Communist” were two books my homeschooled children read in their junior year. Must reads.
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
I read J. Edgar Hoover's "Masters of Deceit" when I was in the eighth grade...so I have been an enthusiastic anti-communist all my life.

I have some theories as to where this is all heading and how it all ends for America...but I'm not in the mood to get flamed today.

I promise not to flame. I’d like to hear.
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
“Masters of Deceit” and “The Naked Communist” were two books my homeschooled children read in their junior year. Must reads.

The Naked Communist comes up two books with separate authors. Is yours by Bowers or Vegso? Thanks.
 

marymonde

Veteran Member

vector7

Dot Collector
The KGB/GRU are Masters of subversion and are still in control (Putin).

The fall of the Soviet Union (Perestroika) was a deception to reorganize Russia's leadership underground.

Watch Russia's military developments and war preparations like submarines and nuclear weapons.

Here's a few articles that comes to mind...

Flashbacks:
Russian Subs hunting down Tridents returning to Cold War tactics not seen in 25 years


Obama agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets

President Obama seeks Russia deal to slash nuclear weapons

The Obama Administration gives both
Russia and China access to our nuclear sites

However: U.S. treaty inspections are to end at Russian missile sites

Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

The Obama administration Declares Size of Nuclear Arsenal

However: Russia still reserves pre-emptive nuclear strike rights

Russia: We’ll Nuke ‘Aggressors’ First

Obama loosens missile technology controls to China

Obama removes China as top priority for spies

Obama Administration approves G.E. and Boeing to transfer technology to China

Boeing technology heading to Russia

Obama and Gates on a path to Gut the Military

The Obama Administration Obama Betrays Poland On 70th Anniversary Of Soviet Invasion.

Pro West Polish Government Leadership All Killed in Crash and not a question raised out of the Obama Administration

Obama opens the door for Russia to join NATO

Obama says U.S. will support Russia's WTO bid

Obama Administration allows State-‘Controlled’ Russian Company Set to Take Over Wyoming Uranium Mines

Pentagon Loses Control of Bombs to China's Metal Monopoly

Russia scrambles to build 5,000 new bomb shelters by 2012 for strategic nuclear attack

Their reason...they're unprepared.

Russia scrambles to build 20 new military bases around 40 garrison towns on Russia's western front before the end of 2017

Military & Defense
June 21, 15:50 UTC+3

Around 40 garrison towns are currently being built, according to Defense Minister Army General Sergei Shoigu...



Leader: World War 3 Will Start With Alaska Invasion

October 15, 2016
Norman Byrd

At least one harbinger of doom is now saying that when the Russians invade the United States, they will start World War 3 by breaching American sovereignty via Alaska, according to a former military official. In what reads like a World War 3 conspiracy theory, this scenario suggests that President Barack Obama has left the United States’ northernmost state militarily defenseless against an imminent Russian exploitative attack.

The Daily Star reported this week that a high-ranking former U.S. Navy official has claimed to have evidence that a Russian invasion of the United States is imminent and will begin in, of all places, the small village of Wasilla, Alaska.

~snip~

According to the official, who offered the information on condition of anonymity, Wasilla will become the jump-off for a more protracted invasion of North America. “Our feeling in the Navy was that Obama had turned Alaska into a defenseless area that will serve as a forward base of operations when World War III begins,” he said.

“We are the verge of being invaded from Alaska all the way down into Canada and eventually the Northwest.”...

US Spox John Kirby threatens Russia with “more body bags, attacks on Russian cities"

Published on Sep 29, 2016


‘Russia will continue to send troops home [from Syria] in body bags’ – US State Dept (6min)
View: https://youtu.be/6wRXncGsktE


U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry threatens to cut off all cooperation with Moscow over Syria, unless attacks on Aleppo are stopped and the ceasefire is restored. That's as his spokesperson warns of even worse consequences...

In a veiled threat against the Russians, US State Department spokesman John Kirby warns Russia of ‘more body bags” and “attacks on Russian cities” if the Russians will not cooperate with them in Syria...

MOE Conducts Mock War Training Civil Defense With 40 Million Participants Across Russia October 4-7 2016

02.10.2016 | 13:25

Russian Emergency Situations Ministry will hold the All-Russian exercise of civil defense, in which more than 40 million people will be involved, reports RIA "Novosti" .

This was told the director of the Emergency Situations Ministry of Civil Defence Department Sergey Manuilov.

"Training will be held from 4 to 7 October. It will bring together more than 40 million people, more than 200 thousand professionals rescue units, about 50 thousand units. The full force of the Russian Emergencies Ministry are utilized, including military units EMERCOM rescue, emergency rescue units, rescue units of paramilitary units and the State Inspectorate for Small Boats, a division of the State Fire Service of EMERCOM of Russia, aircraft, "- said Manuilov.

According to him, the action will be worked on evacuation, issuance of personal protective equipment, sanitary, deployment obmyvochnyh points...


Is a remote naval center near Seattle in Russia’s nuclear crosshairs?

Sat., March 2, 2019
By Hal Bernton Seattle Times


A Russian state television broadcaster asserts that one of his country’s top targets for attack in the event of nuclear war would be a 4,700-acre site east of Arlington that encompasses a key transmission center for the Pacific submarine fleet and a forested recreational area for military personnel. (Mark Nowlin/Seattle Times)

SEATTLE – A Russian state television broadcaster asserts that one of his country’s top targets for attack in the event of nuclear war would be a 4,700-acre site east of Arlington that encompasses a key transmission center for the Pacific submarine fleet and a forested recreational area for military personnel.

Naval Radio Station Jim Creek is a forested expanse of land near Arlington that hosts a major communications hub for the Pacific submarine fleet that a Russian broadcaster asserts would be among the top U.S. targets in event of nuclear war.

In a Sunday evening broadcast, Dmitry Kiselyov featured a map of the United States that listed Jim Creek along with the Pentagon and the presidential retreat at Camp David as initial strike targets Russian would want to hit, according to a report from Reuters.

Kiselyov is a high-profile journalist tapped by the Russian government to head a weekly news show called “Vesti Nedeli.” But Kiselyov’s credentials as a Kremlin insider appear to be diminished by his inclusion on the map aired Sunday of Fort Ritchie, a military training center in Maryland that closed in 1998, and McClellan Air Force Base in California, which was shuttered in 2001.

Kiselyov claimed that hypersonic missiles Russia is developing could hit the U.S. targets within five minutes of launch. The Reuters news report described Kiselyov’s segment as “unusual even by the bellicose standards of Russian state TV.” Asked to comment Monday, a Kremlin spokesperson said it did not interfere with state TV editorial policy, according to Reuters.

Kiselyov remarks come amid concerns about a renewed nuclear arms race. The Trump administration earlier this year announced the U.S. withdrawal from the Intermediate-range Nuclear Force Treaty, which could open the door to eventually deploying such missiles in Europe. Putin has said that could lead to Russia placing hypersonic missiles on Russian nuclear submarines that could strike U.S. targets.

Jim Creek, the Washington state target spotlighted in Kiselyov’s Sunday broadcast, is a relatively obscure U.S. military site, located about 60 miles from Seattle.

Jim Creek is currently under the command of Naval Station Everett, and a spokeswoman for the naval station declined to comment Monday on the Russian television broadcast. She referred a reporter to the Defense Department for comment...





RUSSIA BACKS CHINA'S 5th GENERATION JET DEVELOPMENTS
Russian Officials Reveal J-31 Engine and Describe Sales to China


AIN Defense Perspective » November 23, 2012
by Vladimir Karnozov

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The second Chinese stealth fighter was displayed in model form at Airshow China last week

November 23, 2012, 8:00 AM

China’s recently flown second stealth fighter is powered by a pair of Russian-supplied Klimov RD-93 turbofans, AIN has learned. A large model of the design, which has been dubbed the J-31 in unofficial reports, was on display at Airshow China in Zhuhai last week, labeled as “an advanced multi-role fighter for the international defense market.” Russian officials at the show described the supply of military turbofans to China in some detail.


China's alliance strategy aims to contain U.S. before war

Beijing to press for wide-ranging ties with NATO members

Published: 03/26/2012 at 8:45 PM

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“China must change its non-alliance policy,” he said. “We must consider forming alliances. Otherwise, in a future war with the U.S., we will not be able to politically or militarily counter America’s global alliance network just by ourselves.

“Without an alliance system of our own,” he said, “we will never be able to win.”
 

vector7

Dot Collector
Flashbacks continued...

RUSSIA'S TAKE ON AMERICA
The Americans will not give China Asia


08:09 20.07.2011.

Washington discovered that the Chinese consider it probable opponent ``

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Head of the Chinese Foreign Minister said Russia believes that Beijing "reliable hinterland against the background of confrontation with Washington" the only way to stop the U.S. empire is that China and Russia understand the danger they are in, and to form an unbreakable alliance that ensures India separates Germany from NATO and protects Iran.

HEAD Pentagon Robert Gates admitted that U.S. allies in the region - the security conference in Singapore - that two simultaneous wars that lasted much longer than the original predictions, and Avnagnistanu in Iraq, Washington has faced "a harsh political and economic realities." Yet he explained: "Participation in the war two such prenapreglo our ground forces and patience of Americans spend their uspremnost for similar interventions in the future."

Gates, of course, would not be the Minister of Defense to immediately below is said: "Despite all this, the U.S. will not leave you alone with China and its growing military power. Though President Obama ordered that military expenditures by 2023. Reduced by $ 400 billion dollars, America will keep all the military bases and military presence in the region. So: not removed from the obligations to protect their allies. contrary, will further strengthen the cooperation with Tokyo, Seoul, Canberra and Singapore. continue to send its troops to outposts ` positions tends to further expand military presence in Southeast Asia and the Indian Ocean. "

SUPERIORITY IN THE AIR AND SEAS

Turning to Obama's spending cuts, Gates was unequivocal: "The Pentagon will find the money needed to keep American supremacy in the air and on the seas and applied to strike distant targets. Worrying about its potential for curbing nulkearno, espionage capabilities from space and in cyberspace. '

Gates refused to answer a reporter's question: against whom is facing all the impressive military power in Asia? Maybe because it's next to him, naistoj press conference, the Chinese defense minister sat Lian Guan. However, immediately after the meeting in Singapore, "New York Times" wrote that China is the only country in Asia with the armed forces would be able to prevent American ships access to the most important maritime trade routes.

NUCLEAR WAR WITH INDIA?

For all this, Guan reacted as tactically, so typically Chinese. He said his country by weapons far behind the West, even for two generations, and that China is not a threat to anyone. It is still, perhaps, is indicative Gejtsov Chinese counterpart said that Russia considers "reliable hinterland against the background of confrontation with Washington." All in all, Gates is marked `` probable opponents in Asia, Beijing announced that it would do whatever it takes to strengthen its 'strategic partnership' with Moscow. In his meeting with Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov, he announced that the cooperation and coordination between the two countries in the international arena "to be brought to a new level '.

China in 2011. increased its military spending by 12 percent. A `to this` brawls occurred only days after the most recent territorial tensions between China and Vietnam and China and the Philippines, on the occasion of islands in the South China Sea. I should point out that the U.S. is in such disputes take the side of the Chinese competitors and opponents?

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What is the solution to Washington for the growing power of China? - Attempted (Gates open than the New York Times) that the answers influential and well informed Paul Craig Roberts (the Global Research). He did not hide that the answer may be - drawing China into a nuclear war with India.

BEIJING DEFEND PAKISTAN

Neoconservatives, and increasingly the U.S. military leaders, considered the Taliban can not be conquered unless NATO does not expand the battlefield to Pakistan, where the Taliban are believed to have shelter under the protection of the Pakistani government, which takes American money but does not execute the commands of Washington - suggests Roberts. Liquidation of Osama Bin Laden, Pakistan has received a threatening message and ran to China. As soon as he arrived in Beijing 17th May, Prime Minister of Pakistan Jusaf Raza Gilani announced that China would be "the best and most loyal friend" of Pakistan. And China has built a port in Pakistan Geadar, which is near the entrance to Ormuski Strait (Strait), which might become a Chinese naval base in the Arabian Sea.

Roberts also recalls that in 'Pakistan Tribune' (June 4) that was published in a recent lecture at Pakistan's National Defense University, Pakistan Ambassador to the U.S. Hussain Haqqani Pakistani officers asked whether the biggest threat to Pakistan came from within, from India, or from USA. Most of the officers replied that the U.S. is the biggest threat to Pakistan.

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China, concerned over India as well as other Asian giant whose power is growing, ready for alliance with Pakistan. In addition, China does not want Americans on its border, which would happen if the Americans would expand the battlefield and in Pakistan.

Therefore, China showed its displeasure with the U.S. threat to Pakistan, and advised Washington to respect Pakistan's sovereignty, adding that any attack on Pakistan could be considered an attack on China.

That's why the U.S. - continues Roberts - widely courting India, podilazeći her the most shameful ways, including the sacrifice of American jobs. For the same reason, the last time there was a massive U.S. arms sale to India, signing of agreements on military cooperation, and joint military exercises.

RUSSIA ONLY REMAINS

Roberts thoughts concluded as follows:

"By eliminating China and India, the only thing left is Russia, which is already surrounded by U.S. missile bases and isolated from Europe by NATO, which now includes former constituent parts of the Soviet empire.

A large percentage of young and reckless Russians loves the United States because of their "freedom" (eh if they only knew), and hates "authoritarian" Russian state, which is considered the continuation of the old Soviet state. These "internationalized Russians" will take the side of Washington, more or less forcing Moscow to surrender.

As the rest of the world, with the exception of some parts of South America, but part of the American empire, handing Russia would allow the United States to concentrate its military might on South America. Chavez will be overthrown, and if others do not obey, there will be more examples.

The only way to stop the U.S. empire is that China and Russia understand the danger they are in and form an unbreakable alliance. That ensures India separates Germany from NATO and protects Iran. Otherwise, the American Empire rule in the whole world. "


Russia develops...
Underwater strategic destroyer "Dolgoruky" carries 16 ballistic missile "Bulava 30"


01/10/2013 15:51.

Russian Navy receives the first of 8 new atomic submarines


"Yuri Dolgoruky"
  • "Underwater destroyer" of the same class and generation, "Alexander Nevsky" is currently undergoing the necessary tests and the Russian Navy will have it available during 2013
  • On the last day of the 2012 it was lowered in the water with its "twin brother" - "Vladimir Mono" which, as the najavbljuje, be najbešumniji
  • Military shipyard "Sevmaš" already started construction, and the fourth "Boreas" - "Prince Vladimir", but perfected by the project - 955A
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Russian Navy substantially increased its striking power: in Severodvinsk - in the presence of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu - the more solemnly, after raising the flag over her Andrejevske, strategic nuclear submarines launched the fourth generation "Yuri Dolgoruky".


It is the newest and most modern submarine Project 955 class "Boreas" by Russian admirals considered strategic missile submarine destroyer.

These "underwater destroyers" should become the strong arm of Russia's naval strategic nuclear forces in the 21st century.


The ceremony was held at the famous military shipyard "Sevmaš," Shoigu and then - using a secure connection - everything about informed the Head of State and Chief of the Armed Forces of the RF Vladimir Putin.

"Dolgoruky" is about 170 meters long, width - 13.5 meters. Carries 16 ballistic missiles strategic "Bulava-30" (according to Western classification SS-NM-30) and nasjavremenija torpedoes.

Russia has completed the construction of two submarines of this class.

"Underwater destroyer" of the same class and generation, "Alexander Nevsky" is currently undergoing testing and teophodna Russian Navy will have it available during the 2013 year.

On the last day of the 2012th the water was lowered its "twin brother" - "Vladimir Mono" which, as the najavbljuje, be najbešumniji.

"Sevmaš" has already started construction, and the fourth "Boreas" - "Prince Vladimir", but perfected by the project - 955A.

Russia planned to build eight strategic "submarine destroyer" - three and five 955 - 955A.

The completion of this test was first submarines said deputy defense minister for armaments, Yuri Borisov at a briefing for reporters the military.


Russia’s Newest Ballistic Missile Sub Something Something Red October


Andrew Tarantola

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While Russia's submarine fleet remains a formidable force in the 21st Century, the country still relies on craft built before the Iron Curtain lifted. Today, a lot of the subs are getting long in the tooth. However, the new SSBN Yury Dolgoruky will provide Mother Russia with a fresh set of nuclear fangs.

Russia to Load 16 Missiles on New Subs

April 15, 2013

Russia intends to load 16 Bulava ballistic missiles on each of its new Borei-class submarines, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty reported on Sunday.

The vessels were initially intended to be installed with 20 missiles, Interfax reported. However, that was found to demand changes including a longer hull that could undermine the submarines' capacity to make rapid changes in direction.

"Sixteen missiles are enough to deliver a nuclear strike," according to one unidentified private defense sector insider told Interfax. "What is more important is to be able to clandestinely reach an attack position and launch missiles on designated targets."

The first of eight anticipated Borei-class submarines, the Yuri Dolgoruky, has entered active naval service. The Bulava missile, which had a troubled development, are designed to fly up to 5,000 miles and to carry as many as 10 warheads.

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Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S.

By MARK MAZZETTI and THOM SHANKER
Published: August 4, 2009

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WASHINGTON — A pair of nuclear-powered Russian attack submarines has been patrolling off the eastern seaboard of the United States over recent days, a rare mission that has raised concerns inside the Pentagon and intelligence agencies about a more assertive stance by the Russian military.

The episode has echoes of the cold war era, when the United States and the Soviet Union regularly parked submarines off each other’s coasts to steal military secrets, track the movements of their underwater fleets — and be poised for war.

But the collapse of the Soviet Union all but eliminated the ability of the Russian Navy to operate far from home ports, making the current submarine patrols thousands of miles from Russia even more surprising for military officials and defense policy experts.

“I don’t think they’ve put two first-line nuclear subs off the U.S. coast in about 15 years,” said Norman Polmar, a naval historian and expert on submarine warfare.

The submarines are of the Akula class, a counterpart to the Los Angeles class attack subs of the United States Navy, and not one of the larger submarines that can launch intercontinental nuclear missiles.


According to Defense Department officials, one of the Russian submarines remained in international waters on Tuesday about 200 miles off the coast of the United States. The second submarine traveled south in recent days to make a port call in Cuba, according to a senior Defense Department official.


Will Russia Drill Off Florida's Coast?

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Wednesday, August 05, 2009 4:20 PM PT

Energy: As Russian attack submarines patrol our eastern seaboard, Moscow signs a deal to help Castro's Cuba drill for oil off the Florida coast. In Moscow and Havana, the cry is "Drill, Comrade, Drill!"

Two Russian nuclear attack submarines have taken up positions along our East Coast in recent days, another sign of renewed assertiveness by the former communist giant. The move comes as Moscow inks a deal with the communist relic of Cuba to drill for oil we refuse to go after.

The submarines are of the Akula class, a counterpart to the Los Angeles class attack subs of the U.S. Navy. "I don't think they've put two first-line nuclear subs off the U.S. coast in about 15 years," said Norman Polmar, a naval historian and submarine warfare expert.


Russian Sub Skirts East Coast
Russian attack sub detected near East Coast

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BY: Bill Gertz
November 5, 2012 5:05 pm

A Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine cruised within 200 miles of the East Coast recently in the latest sign Russia is continuing to flex its naval and aerial power against the United States, defense officials said.

The submarine was identified by its NATO designation as a Russian Seirra-2 class submarine believed to be based with Russia’s Northern Fleet. It was the first time that class of Russian submarine had been detected near a U.S. coast, said officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of anti-submarine warfare efforts.

One defense official said the submarine was believed to have been conducting anti-submarine warfare efforts against U.S. ballistic and cruise missile submarines based at Kings Bay, Georgia.

A second official said the submarine did not sail close to Kings Bay and also did not threaten a U.S. aircraft carrier strike group that was conducting exercises in the eastern Atlantic.


Russian attack submarine sailed in Gulf of Mexico undetected for weeks, U.S. officials say

BY: Bill Gertz

August 14, 2012 5:00 am

A Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine armed with long-range cruise missiles operated undetected in the Gulf of Mexico for several weeks and its travel in strategic U.S. waters was only confirmed after it left the region, the Washington Free Beacon has learned.

It is only the second time since 2009 that a Russian attack submarine has patrolled so close to U.S. shores.

The stealth underwater incursion in the Gulf took place at the same time Russian strategic bombers made incursions into restricted U.S. airspace near Alaska and California in June and July, and highlights a growing military assertiveness by Moscow.

The submarine patrol also exposed what U.S. officials said were deficiencies in U.S. anti-submarine warfare capabilities—forces that are facing cuts under the Obama administration’s plan to reduce defense spending by $487 billion over the next 10 years.

The Navy is in charge of detecting submarines, especially those that sail near U.S. nuclear missile submarines, and uses undersea sensors and satellites to locate and track them.

The fact that the Akula was not detected in the Gulf is cause for concern, U.S. officials said.

The officials who are familiar with reports of the submarine patrol in the Gulf of Mexico said the vessel was a nuclear-powered Akula-class attack submarine, one of Russia’s quietest submarines.

A Navy spokeswoman declined to comment.


Russian Tu-160 strategic bombers complete Venezuela and Nicaragua flight

1 November 2013, 01:29

Under the framework of the Long-Range Aviation and Operational Training programs of the Russian Air Force, two supersonic Tu-160 strategic bombers completed a flight from the Maiquetia Airfield in Venezuela to the Managua airfield in Nicaragua.



 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
vector7, it must have taken you hours to put the above post together. You could (and probably should) teach a college course on those posts. Seeing all of that together is sobering. Thanks much for posting.
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
Run time 8:55. I’m sure many of you have seen this before. I revisited and realised the last phase of implementing communism is normalisation. Is it any wonder we keep hearing “this is the new normal”? Decide for yourself where you think we are.

“In 1984, Soviet defector and KGB operative, Yuri Bezmenov, specializing in the fields of Marxist-Leninist propaganda and ideological subversion; warned us about the silent war being waged against America as part of a long term plan to take over and destroy the American system and way of life. YOUR way of life.

As you watch this clip, you'll realize he is describing EXACTLY what's happening in America TODAY, where by Obama and his gang of Marxist usurpers were just the culmination of a very long term plan, but are the ones who are about to bring it into fruition. Stay wise my friends... nothing is a coincidence.”

View: https://youtu.be/pgCnpCBORyM

This video was scary and plausible.

I can see the results of the four phases played out now.

Brilliant, but sucks for us
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
vector7, it must have taken you hours to put the above post together. You could (and probably should) teach a college course on those posts. Seeing all of that together is sobering. Thanks much for posting.

It was an excellent compilation. I’m going to re read later. Thanks Vector.
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
I think we are so distracted with everything else right now, it’s quite possible Russia is waiting for the West to have a weak moment. It’s like the perfect storm is coming for them to take advantage of the situation.
 

mikeabn

Finally not a lurker!
I don't think the ruskies have anything to do with this. What is happening is entirely domestic in origin. The DNC establishment made a faustian pact with the left, hoping to gain more votes and maintain their power. Problem is they have lost control of the situation trying to appease the far left. The establishment DNC is in danger of being eaten by the left who have effectively taken control of the democratic party.

Life time democrats who have always pulled the D lever are slowly starting to understand its not the party of their fathers day.
Better they realize late than never, let's all hope not too late.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov's warning to America | Man From Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War (36min)

Subversion = 15-20 Year Process
  1. Religion = Erode, Destroy and Replace with Hate Organizations.
  2. Education = Distract people from learning, teach Leftist Ideology.
  3. Social Life = Replace traditional relationships and substitute with Social Workers Institutions Bureaucracy.
  4. Power Structure = Replace elected Leaders and substitute with artificial bodies that no one elected. (MSM/BT/DS)
  5. Labor Relations = Destroy establish links of natural bargaining and labor. Redistribution. (Essential vs Non Essential)
  6. Law & Order = Demonize Law Enforcement.
Demoralization
  • Violence for the sake of Social Justice is Justified introduced by Marxist and Leninist.
Destabilization
  • Economic = Radicalization of human relations, teachers vs students, workers vs employers, family members.
  • Law & Order = Pushed into areas of violence against LEOs.
  • Power Structure = MSM is in the opposition of all things conservative.
  • Law & Order = Pushed into the area of violence.
  • Sleepers = A generation later students become public figures being radicalized, rise up politically in the Revolutionary struggle.

Crisis = Legitimate bodies of power and the power social structure collapses
  • Non elected Committees or Entities take power like ShadowGov and DS/NGOs.
  • Social Workers empowered to replace Law & Order.
  • Leftist MSM optics to block and tackle opposition.
If power is denied to them they take it back by force. Trump Coup.

At this point it does not take Military action, but strong CIA covert involvement to topple and collapse bodies of power. Escalating the crisis, making things so bad people start looking for a savior to trade independence (freedom) for security. (In the video Yuri stated this is what the CIA was supposed to stop, now after the Obama Admin weaponized the FBI, CIA and Pentagon (removing 200 officers) with high ranking leftist, they are agents of the Leftist coup Crisis.)

The planned outcome is another nation or multinational body (UN) is invited in to stabilize the crisis.

The End Result: Civil War or Invasion

Normalization

  • Once a nation has fallen to another nation/force and the self-appointed rulers no longer need Radicalization or Revolution/Violence.
  • Society needs to be stabilized by force. All the Sleeper, Activists, Liberals, Professors, Marxist/Leninist (Useful Idiots) are re-educated or eliminated. The 'Useful Idiots' have done their job, at this point no Other force is used but military to bring stability.
View: https://youtu.be/2kkv7SHxofY
 
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