VIDEO You Need 2 Years of Food – Martin Armstrong

fi103r

Veteran Member
Even a garden isn’t going to be enough. You need to be able to grow staple crops that make calories. Grains, potatoes etc.

Those with animals. How much of their food do you or can you produce?
Winner
exactly this is the point vs food storage
yes you can store (can/preserve) some of your production
but you need the ability to
PRODUCE food
before you worry about storage
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Kathy in FL

Administrator
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They are vegetarian - made to feed any religion or ethnic group I suppose. Cheap enough. There's 5 complete days worth per case. Peas in tomato sauce, lentil stew, beans and rice - plus crackers and such. 2200 calories each - it would fill the hole in your gut and a lot better than nothing, but probably the same stuff the Palestinians were bitching about in Gaza.

You get what you pay for.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Definitely a renewable resource. We have 6 sheep, 13 ducks, and so far 1/8 acre veggie garden that can easily expand. No more ducks though. There are 10 dozen eggs in the frig, we're getting about 10 a day, and outside demand has dropped off. I'm starting to freeze them. Not sure why, as we have no shortage even in winter.
There's a great recipe video for making shelf stable egg noodles on YouTube... former Mennonite woman does really good, practical videos. She uses duck eggs...

Summerthyme
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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I can't give you the particulars but remember reading that there is an enzyme? in eggs that prevents dogs from absorbing the nutrients unless cooked.
Feeding raw eggs to dogs is a waste....
Not exactly. However, raw egg whites will bind biotin (an important B vitamin) so it can't be absorbed. An occasional raw egg won't hurt anything, but when we have lots of extras to use up, I scramble a couple dozen at a time and use them to extend their kibble for a couple of days.

Summerthyme
 

paul bunyan

Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
We've been doing it for 35 years. Family is all incredibly healthy, except for the one who did some internal damage to nerves while on some crazy exercise routine.

That's the grossly undeserved reputation powdered milk has. I've stored powdered milk for 35 years and admittedly threw away quite a bit the first 20 years. However, the past seven years have included a lot of research on this topic.

Taste varies by manufacturer.

There are many tweaks for improving the flavor. The best flavor varies from one person to the next, even within families. We did several blind taste tests with various manufacturers and various tweaks. In a family of eight (including in-laws now), most everyone had a different favorite. DH liked one that used honey. I loved the one using powdered (pasteurized!) eggs. (Yeah, that was a shocker.) Just as shocking--that nonfat powdered milk was made to taste just like whole milk to me.

Even if you don't want to use it for drinking, that powdered milk can be used to make cream of chicken/mushroom/celery/tomato soups. It makes fantastic yogurt, even Greek yogurt, and cream cheese. Pudding. No-bake cheesecake. Sweetened condensed milk. Evaporated milk. Use it in baking bread. Hot chocolate mix. The list goes on.

I use it to feed my family every day. And I have among my children both the King and the Queen of the Picky Eaters. And their dad.

You can read all about it on my blog for free (use the search bar on the right) or in my book on the topic (where everything is nicely organized).

Prep School Daily
Good Eats at the TEOTWAWKI Cafe, Using Powdered Milk
Hello: Your family my have tested this milk substitute which I find just as tasty as pasturized whole cow's milk.

The product is "Morning Moos".

Please try it! You may be pleasantly surprised. It comes in #10 cans and big like 25lbs plastic tubs.
It is extremely popular and you need to search the internet for the best deals.
Just recently, there was a major price reduction which I was lucky to catch.

Amazon and Walmart are good places to start.

Good luck and enjoy.
 

West

Senior
Goats will always have food. The large land owners in my AO would love to feed my goats all of the weeds like poison sumac (that they love), and ivy. Many weeds they don't like, and only eat the grasses cows eat when that's all there is. But their browsers like deer.

Sure I could also feed them from the no man's dirt road banks. Where the county would welcome the goats efforts.

There's also ways to make chicken feed. Maggots are easy to grow and harvest. But the stinch of rotten zombies on top of the chicken coop may be a bit strong.

:D
 
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tnphil

Don't screw with an engineer
but what got my attention were the group of 4 Mexican men. They were strong and healthy. They were either family or friends. They always are in groups like that. The men will come in the grocery store in groups. They do not buy chips and snack food. They buy a lot of vegetables and grain in big sacks. They buy ingredients that you have to cook from scratch.

I have also noticed people in the grocery store that are speaking other languages and I look in their carts and the same. they are buying food to cook from scratch. They look so different than other people in the grocery store.
American culture of the last couple or three decades has produced a lazy, uneducated youth section of the populace.
They had/have no idea where their food comes from and now have even lost the will/knowledge to prepare it properly. Much less make it palatable. They have no inkling how to make a full dinner for $1-$2/person with raw ingredients-they just buy the unhealthy processed crap at inflated prices. People coming from other countries grew up understanding the basics better than the spoiled brats raised here.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
American culture of the last couple or three decades has produced a lazy, uneducated youth section of the populace.
They had/have no idea where their food comes from and now have even lost the will/knowledge to prepare it properly. Much less make it palatable. They have no inkling how to make a full dinner for $1-$2/person with raw ingredients-they just buy the unhealthy processed crap at inflated prices. People coming from other countries grew up understanding the basics better than the spoiled brats raised here.
The exceptions like us and others, stick out cooking from scratch. Even more that have severe food allergies/sensitivities have to cook from scratch as well.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
Speaking of can openers, I have several. My mother had an electric can opener and I always swore I would never have one and I didn't. I'm just thinking maybe I was a little hard on her, oh well. Manual can openers back then were probably crap.

I can still open a can with a butcher knife and I still have the knife I use to use.
 

hd5574

Veteran Member
And also study how many of those old russians were forced out of their homes, apartments, etc., by the soviets, and death marched to the gulags, or turned into forced labor on various farms to feed the proliat (sp?) or whatever they called themselves... aka the elite.

And if that's impossible to envision then you may want to look up the Trail of Tears and the reservation system here in the US, cause it's coming!

I'm not saying not to stock up on food, etc., but most people don't have the skill set or knowledge to cook most foods from absolute scratch, and are reliant on electricity for everything.
That mdight be true for most
I have been able to cook in a fireplace...since I was in elementary school...
Campfire no problem...
When I grew up we cooked....from scratch ..
no problem ...only way there was ..:-)
 

tnphil

Don't screw with an engineer
That mdight be true for most
I have been able to cook in a fireplace...since I was in elementary school...
Campfire no problem...
When I grew up we cooked....from scratch ..
no problem ...only way there was ..:-)
Yeah, most here are old enough to figure out multiple means to cook. If you have the basic knowledge of "how", it's easy to adapt to whatever heat source is available. But "common knowledge" is not only no longer common, but unheard-of, "quaint" and "old fashioned".
 

subnet

Boot
Speaking of can openers, I have several. My mother had an electric can opener and I always swore I would never have one and I didn't. I'm just thinking maybe I was a little hard on her, oh well. Manual can openers back then were probably crap.

I can still open a can with a butcher knife and I still have the knife I use to use.
Rubbing the lid on concrete is safer than using a butchers knife and keeps your knife from getting tore up.
 

Sooth

Veteran Member
Good thread. The one thing I see missing except for a couple comments is water. Freeze dried food, long term food storage, MRE’s - just add water and heat it up. Water. Not just to reconstitute the packaged dry stuff. You can go a lot longer without food than without water.
Clean, potable water. If it all goes to heck? Will the utilities still be going? Water coming to your home needs electric pumps to begin and continue that journey.

The barrel or two of water may seem like a lot until you have to use some to flush toilets and wash up and make coffee. Check your water bill for the amount you use. It’s a lot. And then there is getting water from barrel to water filter and then to point of use. Don’t mean to detract but be aware, clean, potable water will be a big issue.
 

hd5574

Veteran Member
Yeah, most here are old enough to figure out multiple means to cook. If you have the basic knowledge of "how", it's easy to adapt to whatever heat source is available. But "common knowledge" is not only no longer common, but unheard-of, "quaint" and "old fashioned".
I have a brand new wood oval cook stove with warming rack and water boiler sitting in the garage... they are no longer made..
when DH were first together we had friends here in VA... whose dad had lots of land in the blue ridge... we would walk in to an old chestnut cabin...they would carry my stock pot up the mountain for.me...I cooked for them all weekend and in the fireplace... those old ones sure could build fire place that could draw...best one I ever cooked..could pull the coals out and cook the the hearth ..
 

tnphil

Don't screw with an engineer
Good small can opener is the military P38 or P51 can opener. Designed to open "C" rats but it will work for bigger cans. Think they have them on Amazon.
Ex-military may still have a couple in a box somewhere.
Not just mil folks... us old Boy Scouts were aware of them in the 1970s. I made sure that my wife and I have them on our keychains, with spares in "go" bags for cars.
 

coalcracker

Veteran Member
Loving this thread.

Just adding the obvious reminder that fats and proteins will be very valuable in any scenario. I recently picked up some more of the freeze dried Mountain House Breakfast Skillet. It’s expensive, but the grams of protein per serving, the taste, and the shelf life are all factors, too.
 
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custom2006

Senior Member
Does he realize what kind of storage space you'd need for 2 years of food? Does he have 2 homes??

This guy (and several others) appear every 2-3-4 months on this forum with some sort of "doom is coming" and you need "this or that" .... usually, precious metals, ect ....

Listen, the talking heads have figured out what made Alex Jones (and others wealthy) .... preach doom, doom, doom .... always, always, and .... always!!!

Sure, dark days are ahead .... and sooner or later, these assclowns will be right on time with their predictions!

Lastly, Greg Hunter has built his YouTube audience off of these type of videos for 10 years now .... just like Sean from SGT report!

Disgusting!!!

Hey wait a minute, didn't Whitney Webb say just 2-3 months ago that we only have 3 months left???
 

Mongo

Veteran Member
An extra bedroom turned into a walk-in pantry holds us around 2 year's worth of food, plus another 1/4 of another bedroom. All cleaning supplies, lamp oil, paper products, etc. are stored in a mini barn outside. The barn is unheated and no a/c, so it's just for non-food item storage and survival gear and supplies.

We have commercially canned meats, plus what I can myself in our storage. I also have 2 chest freezers. One for meat only, and the other is for all other items that need to be kept frozen such as cheese, butter, flour, cornmeal, etc. for freshness.

I don't think many people realize just how much food it takes for one year, much less, two. Try eating only out of your food stores for about 2 months, nothing else, and you will quickly realize how much food you will go through in a short time.
Actually, for a year one needs about 800 pounds total of rice beans corn wheat - that will take care of calories. This can be packaged in 25 five gallon buckets or about two 55 gallon drums.
 

custom2006

Senior Member
Found it and .... 3 months has passed!

 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This guy (and several others) appear every 2-3-4 months on this forum with some sort of "doom is coming" and you need "this or that" .... usually, precious metals, ect ....

Listen, the talking heads have figured out what made Alex Jones (and others wealthy) .... preach doom, doom, doom .... always, always, and .... always!!!

Sure, dark days are ahead .... and sooner or later, these assclowns will be right on time with their predictions!

Lastly, Greg Hunter has built his YouTube audience off of these type of videos for 10 years now .... just like Sean from SGT report!

Disgusting!!!

Hey wait a minute, didn't Whitney Webb say just 2-3 months ago that we only have 3 months left???
I call it doomer exhaustion.

Alex Jones was different as he actually did his research. His presentation was a hostile presentation that forced a reaction, good or bad.
 

StarGazer

Contributing Member
I am pretty sure my beans are hard, and won't soften well. Most have been in those buckets for 15+ years, however we plan to grind into bean flour and use to thicken sauces, soups, and stews if we can't eat them whole. The protein content is still there!
Pressure Cooker. Get a good pressure cooker. I have prepared 20 year old Pinto beans (stored in closed but not airtight container). Took about 1 hour 20 minutes in pressure cooker. Came out fine.
There are many good units out there. I love my Fissler Vitaquick.
 

tnphil

Don't screw with an engineer
Pressure Cooker. Get a good pressure cooker. I have prepared 20 year old Pinto beans (stored in closed but not airtight container). Took about 1 hour 20 minutes in pressure cooker. Came out fine.
There are many good units out there. I love my Fissler Vitaquick.
Beans done in Instapot are awesome and easy. No pre-soak.
I threw in raw cubed bacon and two pounds of dried white beans. I put in plenty of pork broth from a previous meal. Pressure cooked for 20 minutes. Let sit. Check. Bit more water, then another 15ish minutes. Done to perfection.
 
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Wildwood

Veteran Member
Not intending to offend, but for 90+% who have stored 2 years, they waste quite a bit of it. Yes, there are those who don't, but most do.....

This may be true for newby preppers who don't have their sea legs under them yet but for those of us who have been at it for a few decades, this is not true at all.

We know exactly how far ahead we can store anything and expect to be able to keep it rotated and viable. Most canned/dry goods in your local grocery store have a pretty hefty shelf stable time line...coincidentally, many things are good two years out. About any factory or home canned item is good for much more than two years. If we don't lose power, we can extend the shelf life of most things to two years but I'm not assuming we will keep it so my preps don't depend on it. I rely on a lot of things that take minimal power to be ready to eat.
 

Johnny Twoguns

Senior Member
Spouting something like "two years" just overwhelms a lot of people so they never even try for "two weeks" which would be a darned good start for the general population.

And then of course, he never mentions having means and mindset enough to defend it.
He is not a prepper or survivalist. Not his job. He is a financial expert, and future forecaster.
 

Johnny Twoguns

Senior Member
I did get a few cases of this stuff. Leaves a lot to the imagination of pretending it's meat and making burgers out of it but it isn't half bad for casseroles, chili and as a meat extender. Better than the TVP actually.

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I lived a winter with a young lady on the islands in BC. She could make a super impressive meat sustitute burgers out of soybeans. Wish I had enough interest back then to have seen what she put in it. That was in my pre-pretty good cook stage. Hippies. Had some damn good food many of them did. Wasn't the usual casserole crap.
 

school marm

Veteran Member
Hello: Your family my have tested this milk substitute which I find just as tasty as pasturized whole cow's milk.

The product is "Morning Moos".

Please try it! You may be pleasantly surprised. It comes in #10 cans and big like 25lbs plastic tubs.
It is extremely popular and you need to search the internet for the best deals.
Just recently, there was a major price reduction which I was lucky to catch.

Amazon and Walmart are good places to start.

Good luck and enjoy.
Hi Paul Bunyan,

Yes, we have tried it, way back when. And you are so right--it tastes really good.

Unfortunately, it is a milk alternative. The ingredients: Whey, creamer (coconut oil, corn syrup solids, sodium caseinate, dipotassium phosphate, sugar, mono and diglycerides, silicon dioxide, polysorbate 80, tetrasodium pyrophosphate, soy lecithin), nonfat dry milk, sugar, guar gum, vitamin A palmitate, silicon dioxide, vitamin D3.

Powdered milk is far more nutritious. It generally has more vitamins, though this varies significantly from one manufacturer to the next. (The whole milk powders sold on Amazon generally have zero in the way of vitamins.)

I really do appreciate your kindness in taking the time to make the suggestion. It's just not something I would be comfortable feeding my family.
 

school marm

Veteran Member
I am pretty sure my beans are hard, and won't soften well. Most have been in those buckets for 15+ years, however we plan to grind into bean flour and use to thicken sauces, soups, and stews if we can't eat them whole. The protein content is still there!
A friend gave me a tin of her 55-year-old pinto beans to experiment on. They were stored in one of the old 4-gallon tins, in a hot garage or barn in the Nevada desert for 55 years, half that time being in Las Vegas. I pressured canned them in quart jars. They were perfectly soft and taste/d perfectly fine. I've still got a couple of pounds to use up.
 
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