WTF?!? WTF?!?/WoT: The Militarization of the Hamptons: Counter-terror assets guarding rich+famous

Housecarl

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To me this would be a no-brainer for targeting instead of what we've had happen in CONUS...Makes you wonder about the intel coming in now...HC

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https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-30/the-militarization-of-the-hamptons

OPINION | CITIES

The Militarization of the Hamptons

Why is a heavily armed counterterrorism force patrolling the parties of the rich and famous?

By Joe Nocera
146 Comments
August 30, 2017, 12:33 PM PDT

A few weeks ago, the Bridgehampton Chamber Music Festival held one of its occasional outdoor concerts at a nearby Long Island winery. It was well attended -- 400 concertgoers came to sip wine and listen to the music of Bach and Django Reinhardt -- but that wasn’t a surprise: Now in its 34th year, the music festival is one of the mainstays of the Hamptons summer season.

Here’s what was surprising, according to my friend and former New York Times colleague Susan Lehman, who was there: “Driving in,” she emailed me the other day, “it was impossible not to notice two figures with the word POLICE emblazoned in white on their spruce black costumes, and very noticeable automatic weapons in their hands.” She added that while the musicians were on stage, “two armed guards milled around in the open space in the front of the tent where the concert was being held.” Afterward, when someone inquired about the presence of these heavily armed police, he was told that the Southampton 1 police department required the extra protection.

Yes, it’s true, the town of Southampton, New York, with its 55,000 year-round residents -- and its deserved reputation as a summer playground for the rich and famous -- now has its very own counterterrorism squad. Its members were first sighted in April, when cops wearing bulletproof vests and carrying fully loaded AR-15s showed up at the Bridgehampton Half Marathon, where they spent most of their time milling around the finish line.


They’ve since “protected” several dozen high-end Hamptons galas and events, including a big benefit for the Ovarian Cancer Research Fund, a fundraiser for the James Beard Foundation, the annual Hope in the Hamptons event put on by St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital, and even a family fair that took place at the Children’s Museum of the East End. The children’s museum! Less weaponry was flashed at Hillary Clinton’s Hamptons fundraisers last year than has been seen at various galas around Southampton this summer.

But why? It’s not as if Southampton has ever suffered a terrorist attack. Indeed, Southampton’s police chief, Steven Skrynecki, has repeatedly told the local media that there hasn’t been so much as a hint of a threat. But with so many events attracting wealthy celebrities -- and with terrorist incidents on the rise in many Western countries -- he felt that it was necessary to increase security.

“Many of the people at Southampton events are symbols of American affluence and success and capitalism,” Skrynecki told me. “At the same time, there is an abundance of freedom of expression and morals and dress. The attendees’ beliefs might be contrary to the known ideology of terrorist groups.” He also mentioned the possibility that someone on the “ultra right” could try to commit an act of terrorism at a fundraiser attended by wealthy liberals.

Well, yes, I suppose something like that could happen in the Hamptons -- just as it could happen anywhere, at any time. The randomness of a bomb going off in a packed arena, a gunman killing children in a school, a truck barreling into a crowded sidewalk -- that’s the very definition of terrorism. We know that there will be terror attacks; that’s the world we live in. We just don’t know when or where. And the notion that there is a higher likelihood of an attack on a chamber music concert or a family fair than, say, an overcrowded Hamptons train depot on Labor Day weekend (which the police don’t patrol) seems a stretch, to say the least.

There’s another, more plausible reason Southampton has a 15-person counterterrorism squad. Skrynecki, it would seem, has caught militarization fever, a disease that too many of his fellow police chiefs have also come down with. It is disease that will soon spread further, now that President Donald Trump has agreed to give local police forces renewed access to surplus military equipment, something Barack Obama’s administration had restricted after the clashes between police and protesters in Ferguson, Missouri. Police officers are being transformed into soldiers.

The militarization of local police forces, of course, is a trend that began after the Sept. 11 attacks, when many departments added “fighting terror” to their mission statements, and when the federal government began to make money available to local police to buy military-style equipment, including automatic weapons, night vision goggles and other paraphernalia. As the security expert Bruce Schneier points out, “when they get this stuff, they want to trot it out. So now it is being used.” Counterterrorism is as good an excuse as any.

There are certainly places where police are justified in having officers hold highly visible AR-15s -- Fifth Avenue in New York City, in front of Trump Tower, is a pretty good example. In his previous post, as police chief of Nassau County, Skrynecki oversaw the huge security effort at last year’s presidential debate at Hofstra University. In the Hamptons, a visiting cabinet secretary like Wilbur Ross or Steven Mnuchin probably needs to have extra layers of visible security.

But the experts I spoke to thought that most of the time, such measures were counterproductive. It meant that the 15 members of the Southampton counterterrorism unit weren’t doing more productive policing. With both their hands needing to be on the gun, it was far more cumbersome to respond to less extreme situations that might arise. Most real terrorism prevention takes place before “the moment of contact” -- when the intelligence community scopes out a planned attack and stops it before it begins. There were, after all, Capitol police guarding the congressional baseball game in June, but they couldn’t prevent James Hodgkinson from nearly killing House Majority Whip Steve Scalise. You could even make the case that the presence of the Southampton police at high-end galas increases the likelihood of an attack by drawing attention to the events.

“If you do the math,” says Schneier, “the odds of a terrorist attack at one of these events is infinitesimal. You would do more good screening for drunk drivers. But that isn’t sexy.”

When I questioned Skrynecki about the utility of his new counterterrorism force, he took quick umbrage. He talked about lone wolves and the dark web, where bad guys could communicate without being observed by intelligence agents. He spoke not just about the truck attack on a crowd in Nice, France, but also shootings at the Bataclan in Paris and the Pulse nightclub in Orlando as well as the most recent attack in Charlottesville, Virginia, where a woman was killed when a white supremacist drove his car into a crowd of protesters. “There are crowds just as large in Southampton,” he said.


And that’s true. But they’re not just at celebrity galas. And I’m hard-pressed to think of a single example where terrorists sought to kill the rich and famous, as opposed to all of us, innocently going about our lives. Any terrorist attack akin to the ones Skrynecki listed would simply not have been stopped by his counterterrorism program. Michael Price of the Brennan Center for Justice, who writes often about security and local policing, described what Skrynecki is doing as “security chic.” That sounds about right.

I went to one Hamptons fundraiser this summer. It was thrown by the Animal Rescue Fund of the Hamptons. There were lots of rich people at the event, including several billionaires. But there wasn’t a single automatic weapon in sight.

That’s because the event took place in East Hampton, one town over. Thankfully, East Hampton doesn’t have a counterterrorism unit. At least not yet.

This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners.

The village of Bridgehampton resides within the much larger town of Southampton.
To contact the author of this story:
Joe Nocera at jnocera3@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story:
Stacey Shick at sshick@bloomberg.net
 

Dozdoats

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Just ran across this elsewhere and was going to post it. Managed to miss it when it initially appeared here.

More security theater, and as always, only capable of deterring/stopping the least dangerous.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Look, they're mostly mega-rich and famous. And scared shitless. They dread roving packs of feral darkies too, so there's that. They live in a state of panic. It was all fun and games in the Hamptons until people heard about them. Not many people knew for a long, long time.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Look, they're mostly mega-rich and famous. And scared shitless. They dread roving packs of feral darkies too, so there's that. They live in a state of panic. It was all fun and games in the Hamptons until people heard about them. Not many people knew for a long, long time.

And they are the ones likely throwing money at agencies so violent imports can be brought here, and voting for leftists who demand open borders. Perhaps they know things are worse than we realize?
 

mzkitty

I give up.
And they are the ones likely throwing money at agencies so violent imports can be brought here, and voting for leftists who demand open borders. Perhaps they know things are worse than we realize?

Their little Utopian vision isn't working like they thought it would.
 

MtnGal

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Perhaps with first daughter Ivanka attending parties in the Hamptons the security has been upped? Ivanka, Jared and Soros were at a big party there in June or July.
 
Just ran across this elsewhere and was going to post it. Managed to miss it when it initially appeared here.

More security theater, and as always, only capable of deterring/stopping the least dangerous.

Correct.

Give the good ol' suthrin' boyz with toyz a protected target-rich environment like that, should it come to that point, and NO amount of ANY security within CONUS would be able to stop their determination and inventiveness towards obtaining/accomplishing their objective.

Even a few purposeful-built drones of the correct type could wreak havoc on their abodes.

Maybe it would be garage-built drones with big mudder tires . . . <grins>

Bottom line: "they" just don't GET IT.


intothegoodnight
 

vestige

Deceased
And they are the ones likely throwing money at agencies so violent imports can be brought here, and voting for leftists who demand open borders. Perhaps they know things are worse than we realize?

Their little Utopian vision isn't working like they thought it would.

I believe the answers lie above.

Recall the times I have mentioned the "perceived immunity" some people feel they have for whatever reason.

Methinks some of them removed their rose colored glasses for a moment, or, as Hank Williams said... they saw the light.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Perhaps with first daughter Ivanka attending parties in the Hamptons the security has been upped?

She has her own security detail, she doesn't need the local fuzz.

Part of security theater now is that anyone who is anybody has a bodyguard or three. This is what's happening there, it's just tax $$$ paying for it. "We're so rich and famous, we NEED protection," and the local top cop sees a chance to militarize and goes for it.

If anything there gets seriously kinetic, those black suited protoninjas will be taking their taxpayer supplied toys and training and going home to guard mama and the kids, you can bet on it.

REAL security comes from the people no one sees. I know of some who hire a gorilla goon to draw attention away from the invisibles - that's a good tactic in some places and times. But this isn't the same thing.
 

vestige

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If anything there gets seriously kinetic, those black suited protoninjas will be taking their taxpayer supplied toys and training and going home to guard mama and the kids, you can bet on it.

This, folks, is why, when TSHTF, 911 will be such a joke.

No cop... and I know a boatload... is going to be out taking care of you and me when Momma and the kids are in danger.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
Look, they're mostly mega-rich and famous. And scared shitless. They dread roving packs of feral darkies too, so there's that. They live in a state of panic. It was all fun and games in the Hamptons until people heard about them. Not many people knew for a long, long time.




You have no idea how true that some of the richest people in the country have a home on the east end of long island. I was born there and was self employed as a plumber, so yeah I got to go inside some of the most over priced real estate in the country. So West Hampton, Hampton bays, South Hampton, Sag Harbor, Bridge Hampton and then there is East Hampton.
You can find homes priced at a low million dollars to eighty million or higher.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
You have no idea how true that some of the richest people in the country have a home on the east end of long island. I was born there and was self employed as a plumber, so yeah I got to go inside some of the most over priced real estate in the country. So West Hampton, Hampton bays, South Hampton, Sag Harbor, Bridge Hampton and then there is East Hampton.
You can find homes priced at a low million dollars to eighty million or higher.

I do know, that's why I said what I said.

So you're from there? Wow. Then you know it first-hand.

:)
 
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