WAR (WSJ) The U.S. Is Ceding the Pacific to China

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
A bit leftie, esp. for the Wall Street Journal, but some decent numerical info.

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The U.S. Is Ceding the Pacific to China
MARK HELPRIN MARCH 03, 2019

"The way to deal with China, and thus North Korea, its naughty but wholly dependent vassal, is not by a failing and provocative attempt to weaken it, but by attending to America’s diminishing strengths. Unlike the short-focused U.S., China plays the long game, in which the chief objective is a favorable correlation of forces over time and the most important measure is military capacity.

As a dictatorship, it can continue military development and expansion despite economic downturns. With big data and big decrees, Xi Jinping has severely tightened party control in expectation of inevitable variations of fortune. The hatches are battened for a trade war that would adversely effect China and the world should the U.S. not blink first or fail to reject false or delaying assurances.

China looks past this and all short-term maneuvering to see the U.S. ill-attending to its fundamental strengths, and marks us down as a declining country that cannot come to terms with necessities. It knows that in the 1970s and ’80s, when America led the world in computers, electronics, research, and capital, we failed to automate. Taking the easy way out by offshoring for the sake of cheaper wages, we allowed our manufacturing base to atrophy. And now China sees a weakling that, rather than venture competition, seeks safe spaces behind tariff walls.

Perhaps had the U.S. refrained from needlessly antagonizing every one of its important allies and instead assembled them in a coalition of common interests and grievances, China, thus isolated, would have made real accommodations. But given broken, uncoordinated, squabbling opposition, and the high level of Chinese-American economic interdependence, it need not do so. It will almost certainly delay, prevaricate, and work around its commitments in all too familiar fashion. And a country the leader of which in living memory sacrificed 40 million of his people to crackpot economic theory presents an entirely different kettle of fish than bullying Canada or outfoxing a real estate minimogul over lunch at the Four Seasons.

The only effective leverage on China, and by extension North Korea—which otherwise will retain nuclear weapons whether overtly or covertly but certainly—is to alter the correlation of military forces in the Western Pacific, and indeed in the world, so that it no longer moves rapidly and inevitably in China’s favor, which is what China cares about, the essence of its policy, its central proposition. Though with some effort the U.S. is perfectly capable of embarking upon this strategy, it has not. It seems we lack the awareness, political will, intelligence, probity, discipline, leadership, and habit of mind to do so.

First, it is astounding that China, the world’s third-ranking nuclear power, with 228 known nuclear missiles and a completely opaque nuclear-warfare establishment, unlike the U.S. and Russia is subject to no agreements, no inspection, no verification and no limits, while in this regard the U.S. remains deaf, dumb and blind. The U.S. should pressure China to enter a nuclear arms-control regime or explain to the world why it will not.

Second, keeping in mind that America’s inadequate military sea and air lift make wartime supply of forces in Europe a well known problem, the distance from San Francisco to Manila is twice that between New York and London, China has 55 attack submarines, and the U.S. Navy has long neglected antisubmarine warfare. This renders the diminished string of American bases on China’s periphery crucial for initial response and as portals for resupply. But they are vulnerable, and little has been done to make them less so.

Nothing can change the fact that whereas Chinese attacks on American bases in South Korea, Japan, and Guam would not strike the American homeland, response against bases in China would raise the specter of nuclear escalation. China understands that a knockout blow against our bases would banish the U.S. from its environs, condemning us to a long-distance campaign to which the U.S. Navy in its present state—overstretched, undertrained and half the size of the Reagan Navy—is inadequate. And if China spiked the Panama Canal, which we abandoned and it took on, and used its six nuclear attack submarines to block the southern capes and choke points east of Suez, it would have to contend only with roughly half of our already diminished fleets.

China has medium-range ballistic missiles, air-launched land-attack cruise missiles, air-refueled bombers and fighter bombers, sea-based missiles, and seaborne commandos. To protect our bases from all this we need long-range antiship missiles, adequately defended, on outpost islands; deep, reinforced aircraft shelters rather than surface revetments and flimsy hangars; multilayered missile and aircraft defenses in numbers sufficient to meet saturation attacks; deeply sheltered command and control, runway repair, munitions, and stores; and radically strengthened base defense against infantry, special forces, and sabotage. It would be expensive, but essential.

Above all, building up the Navy, Marines, and long-range air power to make the vastness of the Pacific correspondingly less an impediment is necessary in concert with base-hardening to remedy the diminution of those powers and balances that deter war and make for stable relations in the international system, in that they allow confident restraint and encourage productive negotiation. Failure will lead to the moment when our regional allies, finding less reason to adhere to us than to appease China, remove their increasingly important military components of the de facto Pacific alliance, thus catastrophically breaking it.

At present the U.S. is inexplicably blind to the fundamental power relations upon which China is intently focused. As long as we remain vulnerable while China increases its military powers and ours decline, Beijing need not do anything but pretend to compromise. This can change if we send the Chinese a message they cannot ignore. That is, if we take our eyes off the zero-sum game long enough to assure our strengths in depth. Frankly, if we do not, the Pacific Coast of the United States will eventually look out upon a Chinese lake."

Mr. Helprin, a senior fellow of the Claremont Institute, is author of “Paris in the Present Tense.”
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
China and Russia are just waiting for the coming collapse in the World Economy before they move. When the welfare state collapses civil war will break out and after that runs its course they will attack.
 

Ben Sunday

Deceased
While the U.S. is busy ceding the Pacific to Red China, it must be noted that the U.S. is also quite busy ceding parts of Europe, the Middle East, the Arctic regions and free trade routes on the high seas to Soviet Russia.

The mood is one of appeasement, hand in hand with guilty liberalism, acute Communist sympathizing and yes, fear. We are afraid of damaging relations with Russia by actively and vigorously confronting them. Well, I can tell you this. Once Putin sees his opportunity in the open, the Soviet Red Army will grab the remains of Ukraine by the throat and another landmass will vanish and most of the population in jails, gulags...or a cemetery. Following that demonstration of American foreign policy failure, Russia will simply take the Baltic states followed closely thereafter by the Soviet military thundering across most of Europe.

Are you disturbed yet? You should be.

Lately we have been hearing about Russia plotting energy and spy installations in the Arctic region. In addition this plays into Red strategy by way of further blocking or challenging open and free navigation of the oceans. When Putin decides to act, ocean based commerce in the Western world will cease to exist.

Putin is not a statesman, just a former KGB thug. America should be both expecting and planning for these certain outcomes. Whether you believe it or not the absolute truth is that "Communist peace is worse than war."
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
We should have done a revised Yalta 2.0 with the ZUSA, China and Russia as participants and reasserted the Monroe Doctrine for our part - while we could pull it off.

Things are too far gone to do that now, too much opportunity has been frittered away.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Or simply put, the globalists within sold us out to the communists who are behind the coming world government. The soviets created the UN for what's coming and do want the world whittled down to fifteen percent of it's present population. The present condition is due to the fifth column within working toward our destruction.
Civil war
Zombies
Invasion
more Zombies

It's inevitable, and it's gonna be butt ugly.

Some of our neighbors, yours and mine, are responsible and should be held responsible.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Cede it all. F’em. The whole world. America for Americans. All troops home, no monetary support.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
There's a reason why they want a "low yield option" for the Trident D5s......
 
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hoss

Out to lunch
Cede it all. F’em. The whole world. America for Americans. All troops home, no monetary support.

I hear you -- and have some similar views. But, do this and the US$ will no longer be the defacto world currency. We would actually have to live within our means. This might be a good thing -- but most citizens are not prepared to face the necessary sacrifices and transition period.

The entire US$ house of cards perpetuated by TPTB does keep our standard of living artificially high. And, most people like that.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Agreed in principle, except...

Cede it all. F’em. The whole world. America for Americans. All troops home, no monetary support.

Without Platinum, Chromium, and some other metals we simply don't have within our territory in mineable quantities, a modern industrial economy (kind of an essential thing to prevent someone who HAS one from conquering you), we'd be SOL. So, we'll longterm absolutely need some imports, given forseeable technology.
(Yes, if fusion power becomes practical to the point that if we wanted some Tantalum, we could afford to boil a bunch of granite and fractionally distill it, that'd be a different deal altogether, but I don't expect that in the next 2 decades, if ever.)
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
And before anyone goes "Desalination and distillation for minerals" one needs to remember that we are discussing MINABLE CONENTRATIONS...and the sea ain't that concentrated.
 

Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
Do not fear for there are nuke subs off the coast of china and russia and they will be utilized....

And then if needed, the ICBM's and nuke bombers....

Texican....
 

ArisenCarcass

Veteran Member
I LOVE how all of these anti-China articles bring out the old cold warrior neocons talking about "muh Russia" being the threat......
You won! They collapsed. Get over it.

China is the threat. CHINA is THE threat. CHINA IS THE THREAT!

Muh Russia has a collapsing population, aging industrial base and a tenuous economy at best.
They aren't commie, though they are ruled by a strongman.
If anything, Russia may end up saving Europe from the muzzies, though I doubt it since about 30% of their military are muslim.

I agree with Dennis, let the world see how they do without US.
 
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