World Can't Stop Flu Pandemic: 55% Mortality Rate: Updated 9/21/05

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1141652

ABC News
World has slim chance to stop flu pandemic

An Indonesian official from the agriculture ministry collects a blood sample from a bird at the central Jakarta bird market September 20, 2005. REUTERS/Enny Nuraheni
Reuters
September 20, 2005

NOUMEA, New Caledonia (Reuters) - The initial outbreak of what could explode into a bird flu pandemic may affect only a few people, but the world will have just weeks to contain the deadly virus before it spreads and kills millions.
Chances of containment are limited because the potentially catastrophic infection may not be detected until it has already spread to several countries, like the SARS virus in 2003. Avian flu vaccines developed in advance will have little impact on the pandemic virus.

It will take scientists four to six months to develop a vaccine that protects against the pandemic virus, by which time thousands could have died. There is little likelihood a vaccine will even reach the country where the pandemic starts.
That is the scenario outlined on Tuesday by Dr Hitoshi Oshitani, the man who was on the frontline in the battle against SARS and now leads the fight against avian flu in Asia.
"SARS in retrospect was an easy virus to contain," said Oshitani, the World Health Organization's Asian communicable diseases expert.
"The pandemic virus is much more difficult, maybe impossible, to contain once it starts," he told Reuters at a WHO conference in Noumea, capital of the French Pacific territory of New Caledonia. "The geographic spread is historically unprecedented."
Oshitani said nobody knew when a pandemic would occur, it could be within weeks or years, but all the conditions were in place, save one — a virus that transmitted from human to human.
The contagious H5N1 virus, which has killed 64 people in four Asian countries since it was first detected in 2003, might not be the one to trigger the pandemic, he said. Instead a genetically different strain could develop that passes between humans.
While bird flu cases continued to spread throughout Asia, with Indonesia this week placed on alert after reporting four deaths, Oshitani said the winter months of December, January and February would see an acceleration in cases, and the more human cases the greater risk that the virus would mutate.

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doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
http://www.smh.com.au/news/health/b...r-attack-abbott/2005/09/14/1126377322469.html




Bird flu could kill more than terror attack: Abbott


A bird flu pandemic in Australia could be more deadly for the nation than almost any sort of terrorist attack, Health Minister Tony Abbott has warned.
He painted the worst-case scenario of thousands of possible deaths in Australia if there was a pandemic as Indonesia claimed its fourth likely victim from the bird flu.
And Indonesia's health minister has warned there could be further outbreaks to come.

Bird flu, which arrived in Asia in late 2003, has so far killed nearly 60 people in the region.

Public health experts fear the avian flu virus is mutating and could develop the ability to spread easily between humans, with the potential to kill millions in a flu pandemic.

Mr Abbott says Australia has spent $160 million on measures trying to prepare for an outbreak, but still warns the results could be catastrophic if a pandemic were to occur.

"We don't know if a pandemic will happen ... but if one does happen, it will be a public health disaster the magnitude of which this country has not seen at least since 1919, when he had the last few pandemic," he told ABC TV last night.

About 12,000 people died from the Spanish flu in Australia in 1919.
While not playing down the dangers of terrorism, Mr Abbott said a flu pandemic could be much worse than the damage wreaked by terrorists.

"There is no doubt about it, a pandemic if it hits Australia and it is of the severity of the 1919 outbreak will potentially kill many thousands of people," he said.
"It's hard to imagine any terrorist attack, short of a nuclear bomb in a major city, that would have a comparable impact."

Across the globe, Mr Abbott warned a similar pandemic to the 1919 Spanish flu could kill tens of millions of people if not appropriate treatment were available.
Although anti-viral drugs were believed to be effective, Mr Abbott said there was nowhere near enough of a stockpile anywhere in the world.

With strong border protection measures already in place to guard against illegal immigrants, Australia would tighten its safeguards if it feared there was a threat from nations which had outbreaks of bird flu.

These measures would include quarantine centres for people arriving off planes from a country experiencing a severe bird flu outbreak who may have the disease.
Opposition foreign affairs spokesman Kevin Rudd, who is in Washington, says the United States would help Australia and other Asian countries if the region experienced a severe bird flu outbreak.

After talks with US Deputy Secretary of State Bob Zoellick, Mr Rudd said the US would channel aid money into helping Australia and other countries in South-East Asia tackle an outbreak of avian influenza.

"I came away from the meeting convinced the US government was taking seriously the avian influenza threat in our part of the world and was putting its shoulder to the wheel through its aid program to assist regional countries in identifying the disease early and in helping to contain any outbreak which occurs," he said.

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Is the government ready? Remember the flu pandemic of 1918 had only a 2% mortality rate. This one is much, much deadlier. This particular variation of the flu virus could conceivably kill 1/6 of the world's population. One billion people.

Could infected people purposely infect others? Absolutely!
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
http://www.scidev.net/content/features/eng/bird-flu-destination-india.cfm


I believe it will next affect India........



M. Sreelatha
2 September 2005
Source: SciDev.Net

http://www.scidev.net/content/features/eng/bird-flu-destination-india.cfm
The deadly bird flu virus, which has killed millions of birds and dozens of people in East and South-East Asia, recently reached Russia and parts of Central Asia. Governments in Europe are discussing strategies to prepare for the virus, in case migratory birds carry it there from Asia.

But in India and its sleepy poultry markets in particular, health and hygiene seem low on the priority list.

For the past year, India has checked random samples of chicken blood for H5N1, the virus that has caused havoc in other parts of Asia. But traders and farmers at Ghazipur market, which supplies all of Delhi's poultry retailers, are armed with just one ill-equipped doctor and some philosophy.

M. P. Singh, from the State Veterinary Hospital, is in charge of checking chickens sold here, in India's largest wholesale poultry market.

In the noisy, dusty market, Singh has a room containing only a table and chair. When he needs to take blood samples, he brings along bottles from his hospital. The traders offer their slaughtering knives to slit a chicken's throat for its blood.

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If India is hit, I'm sure the that fact will be covered up.
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7011015/?GT1=6190

As of July 21 </wiki/July_21>, 2005 </wiki/2005>, one hundred and nine cases of human infection have been confirmed resulting in fifty five deaths outside of China. Thirteen countries across Asia and Europe have been affected. Additionally more than one hundred and twenty million birds have died from infection or been culled.
Usually these flu viruses are carried worldwide by wild bird populations in their intestines and are non-lethal. However this variant has mutated into the most lethal strain of avian influenza ever recorded. Such occurrences are natural and have happened in the past, as in the 1918 Spanish influenza pandemic

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Of 109 cases there were 55 deaths............do the math. The Spanish flu, of 1918 only had a two percent mortality rate, with the number of deaths there at 40 million. So if this flu is 25 x's as deadly, there would be about 1 billion folks, worldwide that would be killed.
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
Bird flu (avian influenza)
From MayoClinic.com
Special to CNN.com

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/DS/00566.html

(I advise all readers to print out as much info concerning this subject as possible. If, for some ungodly reason, the net goes down, and this pandemic begins, having hard copy will prove to be invaluable...............just my opinion.......
Overview

Viruses are masters of interspecies navigation. Mutating rapidly and often grabbing the genetic material of other viruses, they can jump from animals to humans with a quick flick of their DNA. Sometimes, as in West Nile fever, the transfer occurs through an intermediate host such as a mosquito. But viruses can also make the leap directly.

Since the 1980s, the list of diseases that have hitchhiked directly from animals to people has grown rapidly — hantavirus, SARS, monkeypox and, most recently, avian influenza, commonly called bird flu. With the exception of HIV/AIDS, perhaps none of these illnesses has more potential to create widespread harm than bird flu does.

In people, bird flu usually begins much like conventional influenza, with fever, cough, sore throat and muscle aches, but bird flu can lead to life-threatening complications.

In early 2005, health officials increasingly warned of the potential for a major bird flu outbreak. The grimmest scenario would be a global epidemic to rival the flu pandemic of 1918 and 1919, which claimed at least 20 million lives worldwide.

Meanwhile, researchers continue to look at ways to prevent or blunt such an outbreak. In August 2005, the U.S. government announced plans to acquire millions of doses of an experimental vaccine, after tests showed its effectiveness. Initial tests showed the vaccine stimulated an immune response in healthy adults. Additional tests were to continue on children and in people older than 65.


Signs and symptoms

Bird flu viruses are complex, with a number of subtypes and strains that vary considerably from one another. In the broadest terms, however, the viruses are classified as having a low or high chance of causing disease (low or high pathogenicity).

Among birds, the effects of low pathogenic viruses are usually minor — ruffled feathers or reduced egg production. But highly pathogenic forms cause severe disease, including respiratory distress, and almost 100 percent mortality in susceptible species. In some cases, domestic birds may die the same day symptoms appear.

Scientists don't yet know just how these subtypes affect humans, but highly pathogenic viruses appear to cause the most serious problems — and the greatest number of deaths — in both people and animals.

Although the exact incubation period for bird flu in humans isn't clear, illness seems to develop within one to five days of exposure to the virus. Sometimes the only indication of the disease is a relatively mild eye infection (conjunctivitis). But more often, signs and symptoms of bird flu resemble those of conventional influenza, including:

Cough
Fever
Sore throat
Muscle aches
People with the most virulent type of bird flu virus — (A) H5N1 — may develop life-threatening complications, particularly viral pneumonia and acute respiratory distress, the most common cause of bird flu-related deaths.



Fever


Pneumonia

Causes

Lying in bed with chills, a spiking fever and that run-over-by-a-truck feeling, you're not likely to care much about the habits and history of flu viruses. But epidemiologists do care — and with good reason.

Each winter, an average of 36,000 people die of influenza in the United States. And three or four times every century, a flu pandemic sweeps the globe, claiming millions of lives. That the flu can cause so much misery on both the small and the grand scale is a result of its ability to change quickly and unexpectedly, to outwit "best guess" vaccines, and to take the immune system by storm.

The ABCs of influenza viruses
All influenza viruses are divided into three types — A, B or C — depending on the virus structure. Type A is responsible for lethal influenza pandemics whereas type B causes smaller, localized outbreaks. Less common and more stable than other strains, type C has milder symptoms. Influenza B and C are usually found only in humans. But type A influenza infects both people and animals, including birds, pigs, horses, whales and seals.

Influenza A viruses are divided into subtypes based on two surface proteins:

Hemagglutinin (HA)
Neuraminidase (NA)
Fifteen distinct HA subtypes and nine NA subtypes exist, but they can combine to form a number of other subtypes, some of which normally are specific to a single species.

For example, subtypes H1N1, H1N2 and H1N3 usually cause influenza in humans, whereas H7N7 and H3N8 viruses cause disease in horses. At least 15 flu subtypes affect birds, the most virulent of which is H5N1. Until recently, avian subtypes have rarely been found in humans or in animals other than pigs.

Type A influenza viruses are further divided into strains, which are constantly evolving. And it is exactly this — the ability of influenza viruses to change their genetic makeup and to swap genes indiscriminately — that makes them so unpredictable and potentially deadly.

Faster than you can say antigenic
All living things change, but influenza A viruses change quickly, constantly and sometimes cataclysmically. This takes place in two ways:

Antigenic drift. These are small, permanent, ongoing alterations in the genetic material of a virus. Because viruses aren't able to repair genetic errors that take place as they reproduce, new strains are continually replacing old ones. Once you have a particular strain of flu, you develop antibodies to it, but those antibodies won't protect you from new strains. In the same way, the flu vaccine you received last season won't ward off this year's bug.
Antigenic shift. This occurs when influenza A subtypes from different species — a bird and a human, for example — trade and merge genes. The result is an entirely new strain, different from either of the parent viruses. Because no natural immunity to the new strain exists, it can spread quickly, causing widespread illness and death. And when one of the original subtypes is a human influenza virus, the new virus has the ability to spread easily from person to person and the potential to become a global epidemic.
How humans get bird flu

Migratory waterfowl, and ducks in particular, carry the viruses that cause bird flu. Often unaffected themselves, the host birds can spread the infection to susceptible species, especially domesticated chickens, turkeys and geese, resulting in severe epidemics that sicken and kill large numbers of birds — sometimes in a single day.

Avian viruses generally don't affect humans, but in 1997, an outbreak of bird flu in Hong Kong infected 18 people, six of whom died. Since then, human cases of bird flu have been reported in the Netherlands, Canada and throughout Asia. Most were traced to contact with infected poultry or surfaces contaminated by sick birds.

The genetic scrambling that occurs in antigenic shift explains how a disease that normally affects a bird or animal can suddenly turn up in humans. Often, flu viruses that cross the species barrier originate in areas where people live in close proximity to chickens and pigs. That's because pigs are susceptible to infection with both avian and human viruses and so are an ideal "mixing bowl" for genes.

But at least some bird flu viruses don't need a third party. Instead, they shuffle and rearrange their genetic material directly in humans. That seems to be the case in most instances of human-acquired bird flu: People become sick after direct contact with infected birds or bird-contaminated surfaces, not from contact with other animals.

Direct bird-to-human transmission works like this:

Wild birds shed the virus. Infected migratory waterfowl, the natural carriers of bird flu viruses, shed the virus in their droppings, saliva and nasal secretions.
The virus spreads to domesticated birds. Domestic poultry become infected from contact with these birds or with contaminated water, feed or soil. They may also catch the disease the same way humans contract conventional flu — by inhaling the airborne virus. Bird flu spreads quickly and lethally within a flock and is inadvertently transported from farm to farm on tractors and other equipment, on cages, and on workers' shoes and clothing. Heat destroys the virus, but it can survive for extended periods in cool temperatures.

Markets provide pathways to humans. Open-air markets, where eggs and birds are often sold in crowded and unsanitary conditions, are hotbeds of infection and spread the disease into the wider community. Cock fighting, rampant throughout much of Asia, has also been implicated in the spread of bird flu — fighting roosters are often trucked long distances and smuggled across borders. At any point along the way, humans may pick up the virus through close contact with sick birds or contaminated surfaces. An ailing bird can shed the virus in its feathers as well as in droppings, and some people have contracted bird flu simply by touching an infected chicken or fighting rooster.

The ease of worldwide travel has the potential to spread bird flu around the globe, although that hasn't happened yet. Scientists don't think that migratory birds are carrying the virus from continent to continent because outbreaks haven't followed traditional flyways. Instead, outbreaks seem much more likely to spread locally through "wet markets," contaminated clothing and equipment, and smuggled birds.



Infectious diseases: How they spread, how to stop them


(A) H5N1: Prelude to a pandemic?
Fifteen known subtypes of influenza A virus can affect birds. Although some strains are more deadly than others, even mild forms can quickly mutate into highly pathogenic types.

In the current epidemic, two influenza subtypes have proved especially dangerous — (A) H7N7, which sickened poultry workers in the Netherlands, and (A) H5N1, which has been responsible for the majority of human and avian deaths in Asia. Of these, (A) H5N1 is of particular concern for several reasons:

Direct transmission. H5N1 became the first known bird flu strain to jump directly from birds to people when it surfaced in Hong Kong in 1997. It has since infected people in other Southeast Asian countries, including Vietnam and Thailand. Two other strains have caused illness in humans, but neither is as severe as H5N1.
Virulence. The virus is especially lethal, killing close to 100 percent of susceptible birds and more than half of infected people. Birds who do survive can shed the virus for at least 10 days, greatly increasing the flu's spread.
Rapid spread. Since 2003, hundreds of millions of birds have died, a loss that's ecologically and economically devastating. It's also alarming from a public health standpoint — widespread infections among birds may lead to more human disease.
Genetic scrambling. (A) H5N1 mutates quickly and is notorious for grabbing large blocks of genetic code from viruses that infect other species, a process called reassortment. For that reason, it has particular potential to combine with a human flu virus, creating a new viral strain that spreads rapidly from person to person. The emergence of such a virus would mark the beginning of a potentially devastating pandemic.

Risk factors

The greatest risk factor for bird flu seems to be contact with sick birds or with surfaces contaminated by their feathers, saliva or droppings. The World Health Organization (WHO) has confirmed a handful of cases of limited human-to-human transmission of bird flu. But unless such transmission becomes more widespread, infected birds or material present the greatest hazard.

Even so, the pattern of human transmission remains mysterious. Young children seem especially vulnerable to the virus. Some scientists speculate they may simply be more likely to breathe infected dust or feces. On the other hand, tens of thousands of unprotected Asian workers involved in culling chickens haven't developed the disease. At this point, too few people have been infected to know all the possible risk factors for bird flu.



Infectious diseases in the news: What's your risk?

When to seek medical advice

See your doctor immediately if you develop flu symptoms, including a fever, cough and body aches, and have recently traveled to a part of the world where bird flu occurs. Be sure to let your doctor know when and where you were traveling and whether you visited any farms or open-air markets.

Doctors have rapid tests to identify the flu virus, but the tests can't distinguish between avian flu and other influenza A viruses. For that reason, specimens from anyone with a suspected case of bird flu would be sent to state health labs or the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for analysis.


Complications

Most people with bird flu have signs and symptoms of conventional influenza. Some also develop life-threatening complications such as viral pneumonia and acute respiratory distress syndrome, which causes the air sacs in your lungs to fill with fluid rather than with air, leading to severe breathing difficulties.

But the greatest complication of bird flu is still hypothetical — the emergence of a new viral strain that spreads easily from person to person. If a person were simultaneously infected with human and bird flu viruses, the reassortment of genetic material could produce an entirely new subtype with a preponderance of human genes. This could make the virus highly contagious and, with no natural immunity among the world population, especially lethal.

So far this hasn't happened. A few cases of person-to-person transmission have occurred, but they were limited in scale. Still, some health officials fear it's just a matter of time before avian viruses figure out a way to way to spread easily among people.



Acute respiratory distress syndrome

Treatment

In August 2005, the U.S. government said it would purchase millions of doses of an experimental bird flu vaccine from a French vaccine maker. The announcement came after the government said tests showed that the vaccine promoted an immune system response in healthy adults younger than age 65. The vaccine still needs to tested over several months in adults older than 65 and in children. And the U.S. Food and Drug would still need to approve use of the vaccine. The government would plan to use the vaccine if it is shown that bird flu can pass from person to person and if the disease were to reach the United States.
(Concerning Tamiflu)

Right now, the primary treatment option is the flu drug oseltamivir (Tamiflu), a neuraminidase inhibitor that works by preventing the virus from escaping its host cell. It's not clear how effective Tamiflu will ultimately prove against (A) H5N1 — preliminary studies have shown that flu viruses may become resistant to it fairly quickly. What's more, the drug has to be taken within two days after the appearance of symptoms, something that may prove logistically difficult on a worldwide scale. Tamiflu also is expensive and in limited supply. How the drug would be allocated in the event of a widespread epidemic remains problematic.


Prevention

The international effort to prevent the spread of bird flu is multifaceted, focusing on the health of both birds and humans. Measures to help control the virus among domestic poultry include:

Culling. Since 1997, when the first human cases of bird flu appeared, hundreds of millions of sick or exposed birds — primarily chickens — have been destroyed. In many cases, affected farms were also quarantined. Although some have questioned the wisdom of such wholesale slaughter as well as the methods used to cull birds — many are burned or buried alive — the WHO considers this approach the first-line defense against avian viruses.
Surveillance programs. Some nations have instituted strict vaccination and surveillance programs for poultry farms and markets, taken steps to prevent bird smuggling, and put in place programs that quarantine new birds until they're proved healthy and that require poultry farmers to disinfect boots and tires.
Banned birds. Many countries have banned or restricted the importation of birds and hatching eggs from regions with bird flu epidemics. In February 2004, the CDC banned the importation of poultry into the United States from most Asian nations.
Recommendations for travelers
If you're traveling to Southeast Asia or to any region with bird flu outbreaks, consider these public health recommendations:

Avoid domesticated birds. If possible, avoid rural areas, small farms and especially any close contact with domesticated fowl.
Avoid open-air markets. These can be colorful or dreadful, depending on your tolerance level, but no matter how you see them, they're often breeding grounds for disease.

Wash your hands. One of the simplest ways to prevent infections of all kinds, hand washing is also one of the best. When you're traveling, alcohol-based hand sanitizers, which don't require the use of water, are an excellent choice. They're actually more effective than hand washing in killing bacteria and viruses that cause disease. Commercially prepared hand sanitizers contain ingredients that help prevent skin dryness. In fact, use of these products can result in less skin dryness and irritation than hand washing. Not all hand sanitizers are created equal, however. Some "waterless" hand sanitizers don't contain alcohol. Use only the alcohol-based products.

Watch your kids. Keep a careful eye on young children, who are likely to put their hands in their mouths and who may not wash thoroughly.
Steer clear of raw eggs. Because eggshells are often contaminated with bird droppings, avoid mayonnaise, hollandaise sauce, ice cream, and any other foods containing raw or undercooked eggs.
Ask about a flu shot. Before traveling, ask your doctor about a flu shot. It won't protect you from bird flu, but it may help reduce the risk of simultaneous infection with bird and human flu viruses.


Clean your hands: A simple way to prevent infection


Preparing poultry
No human cases of bird flu have been linked to eating poultry, although in at least one instance, the H5N1 virus was found in a package of frozen duck. Because heat destroys avian viruses, WHO officials don't consider cooked poultry a health threat. Even so, it's best to take precautions when handling and preparing poultry, which is often contaminated with salmonella or other harmful bacteria.

Wash well. Carefully wash cutting boards, utensils and all surfaces that have come into contact with raw poultry in hot, soapy water. Wash your hands thoroughly before and after handling poultry and dry them with a disposable towel.
Cook thoroughly. Cook chicken until the juices run clear and it reaches an internal temperature of 180 F. Avoid eating raw or undercooked eggs or any products containing them, including mayonnaise, hollandaise sauce and homemade ice cream.


Food-borne illness


Food hazards: Uncover common sources of food-borne illness


Safe cooking temperatures: Fighting food-borne illness
 

oldtimer

Inactive
POTUS

I wonder if POTUS has been properly briefed:

Here is the expert's plan of action:

http://www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/influenza/WHO_CDS_CSR_GIP_05_8-EN.pdf

I strongly suggest browsing this document!

However if nothing else gets your attention here is a scientific quote from the document:

The three pandemics of the previous
century encircled the globe in 6 to 9 months. Since the last one occurred in 1968, the
volume of international air travel has increased exponentially.
 
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JLowry

Contributing Member
What would be the most ideal way to prevent getting this?

I just bought a gallon of green tea, what else do I need?

Let's say this flu was already out and widespread, what am I running to the grocery store/walgreens to go get?
 

JLowry

Contributing Member
As preppers shouldn't we be going out right now and buying the things we need to prevent this? Like right now?

It seems to me like this will be spreading very soon.

Couple this with the 'canes and it will be getting mighty crazy...
 

squeeksmom

Deceased
Doc F: Thanks much for keeping this up - I don't post much, but I read, and really appreciates all the info you give.

JLowry: elderberry, selenium, otc cold, flu, cough, etc remedies. See the threads on elderberry extract, and selenium - maybe somebody smarter than me can put the threads up. sorry, I'm not good at puter stuff.


squeeks
 

jlee

Inactive
I'm still not a doctor or any kind of medical professional. That being said,

A 50% mortality rate for the first 109 cases is probably not indicative of what would happen in the U.S. once the epidemic gets going.

This is a new disease; I assume that most of the victims were not diagnosed immediately (many probably only after death). So they may not have received the best treatment for this particular illness: even if it was only a case of "he's got the flu; bed rest, liquids, blah-blah-blah; should recover in several days" rather than "he needs special treatment immediately or he'll die!"

And hopefully the average American victim would receive much better medical care than the average Third World victim.

So even if it's a bad flu like the one that claimed one of my great-uncles eighty-five years ago, it still wouldn't kill anywhere near half of those who contracted it.
 

m801

Inactive
Do not rely on efficacy or availability of drugs or vaccines.
Learn disease prevention and disinfection protocols now.
This is how CDC germ warriors have to do it, like in Africa with Ebola and Marburg.
 

Reasonable Rascal

Veteran Member
doctor_fungcool said:
Of 109 cases there were 55 deaths............do the math. The Spanish flu, of 1918 only had a two percent mortality rate, with the number of deaths there at 40 million. So if this flu is 25 x's as deadly, there would be about 1 billion folks, worldwide that would be killed.

I've done the math and likely have a far better handle on the subject than you as well. I've been following the avian flu outbreaks since the first one in Hong Kong back in "97/98.

Using your own source, Wikipedia, I noted that other of your equations were in error as well:

Global mortality rate from the influenza was estimated at 2.5%–5% of the population, with some 20% of the world population suffering from the disease to some extent. The disease spread across the world killing twenty-five million in the course of six months; some estimates put the total of those killed worldwide at over twice that number, possibly as high as 100 million. An estimated 17 million died in India alone, with a mortality rate of about 5% of the population. In the Indian Army, almost 22% of troops who caught the disease died of it. About 28% of the population of the U.S. suffered from the disease, and some 500,000–675,000 died from it. Some 200,000 were killed in Britain and more than 400,000 in France. The death rate was especially high in indigenous peoples where some entire villages perished in Alaska and southern Africa. Fourteen percent of the population of the Fiji Islands died in a period of only two weeks while 22% of the population of Western Samoa died. By July of 1919, 257,363 deaths in Japan were attributed to influenza, giving an estimated Japanese mortality rate of 0.425%, much lower than nearly all other Asian countries for which data are available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Flu

jlee said it best:

A 50% mortality rate for the first 109 cases is probably not indicative of what would happen in the U.S. once the epidemic gets going.

In my case it was a great-aunt - a nurse graduated less than a year - who succumbed to the flu while working as a volunteer in Chicago in 1919 during the 2nd wave.

RR
 

theoutlands

Official Resister
JLowry said:
As preppers shouldn't we be going out right now and buying the things we need to prevent this? Like right now?

As preppers, we should have *already* put something in place - medical stockpiles, alt-med training, etc - to prevent this.

But hey - if you just realized a return to a medieval level of tech means a return to the black plagues, then yeah - right now *would* be a good time to start buying stuff to prevent this.
 
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LOL.. RR you are not the only one is is following H5N1 closely (and FWIW - the death rate is still in the mid double didgits as of today

<B><center><font size=+1 color=red><center>Wilson Center Launches New Global Health Initiative;</font>
<A href="http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/09-16-2005/0004109061&EDATE=">First Event on September 19 at Noon</A>

WASHINGTON, Sept. 16 /PRNewswire/ -- A deadly influenza outbreak may be on
the horizon. Since 1997, a strain of avian flu known as H5N1 has spread
rapidly among birds in East Asia, reaching as far north as Siberia. If this
strain, which has killed 55 percent of its known human victims, mutates into a
virus easily transmitted by people, the resulting pandemic could kill millions
and would have staggering global social and economic impacts.
On Monday,</B></center>
September 19, a panel will discuss the costs and consequences of an avian flu
outbreak at the first meeting sponsored by the Wilson Center's new Global
Health Initiative, from noon -- 1:30 p.m. in the Wilson Center's 6th Floor
Flom Auditorium. View the webcast live at http://www.wilsoncenter.org.
The Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars has launched the
Global Health Initiative (http://www.wilsoncenter.org/globalhealth) to provide
a forum for an interdisciplinary examination of health challenges facing the
United States and the world. Delving into such topics as AIDS orphans,
bioterrorism, child mortality, and gene therapy, the initiative seeks to
promote dialogue about pressing health issues among the foreign policy
community. The initiative will focus on four key themes: health's impact on
development, the role of national and international institutions in global
health policy, infectious diseases, and emerging health technology.
"It is our hope that such a forum would ultimately increase understanding
of health issues and inspire policy decisions that will improve the lives of
citizens around the world," said Wilson Center President and Director Lee
Hamilton.
This Initiative's first event, "Emerging Pandemic: Costs and Consequences
of an Avian Influenza Outbreak" will feature panelists Michael Osterholm,
director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, and
associate director of the Department of Homeland Security's National Center
for Food Protection and Defense; and Helen Branswell, a medical writer for the
Canadian Press Agency. Osterholm will focus on gaps and best practices for
addressing a flu crisis in the United States and in global policymaking.
Branswell, who has been covering the avian flu epidemic for the last 18
months, will draw on her experience covering the SARS virus to explore the
potential impacts of an avian flu outbreak in the United States and Canada.
The Wilson Center plans to host additional meetings on this topic in
collaboration with Cornell University.

The Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars is the living,
national memorial to President Wilson established by Congress in 1968 and
headquartered in Washington, D.C. The Center establishes and maintains a
neutral forum for free, open, and informed dialogue. It is a nonpartisan
institution, supported by public and private funds and engaged in the study of
national and world affairs.
 
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<B><font size=+1 color=brown><center>New Calendonian WHO conference focuses on bird flu and encephalitis</font>
<A href="http://newsfromrussia.com/world/2005/09/19/63146.html">NewsFromRussia</A>
13:05 2005-09-19
High ranking health officials from more than 20 countries gathered Monday to discuss ways to prevent a possible deadly outbreak of bird flu in humans and contain an epidemic of Japanese encephalitis that has killed nearly 1,000 people in South Asia. </B></center>
The Western Pacific Regional meeting of the World Health Organization started Monday in Noumea, the capital of France's archipelago nation of New Caledonia, and runs through Friday.

Participants will focus on a strategy for containing emerging diseases in the Asia Pacific region, including human infections from bird flu, Japanese encephalitis, AIDS and tuberculosis.

Health ministers and policy makers are to endorse a set of guidelines "strengthen national and regional capacity for early detection, rapid response, and preparedness for emerging diseases," WHO said.

They also require WHO member countries to mobilize "adequate and sustainable financial resources to implement the strategy," and ask wealthy nations to provide financial or logistical help to poorer countries where disease outbreaks are likely to occur.

Last week, Indonesia last week confirmed its fourth human death from the bird flu virus, bringing the total number deaths in Asia to 63.

WHO has said it will use the reserve stocks of the drug oseltamivir, known commercially as Tamiflu to respond quickly to any emerging influenza pandemic if stocks held by individual countries are not enough.

The WHO meeting will also focus on an outbreak of Japanese encephalitis that has killed nearly 1,000 people in South Asia. The mosquito-borne disease kills a number of people, mostly children, each year during the monsoon rains in the South Asian region, but this season's toll is the highest in many years.

India's most populous state, Uttar Pradesh, has been hardest hit by the outbreak. The disease is preventable with vaccinations, but the provincial government has said it does not have enough money to vaccinate its children, reports the AP.
 
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<B><center><font size=+1 color=green>Amid Warnings, Richer Nations Seek Protection From Bird Flu</font>
Published: September 19, 2005
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ROME, Sept. 18 - As World Health Organization officials repeat warnings about the potential for a deadly bird flu pandemic, wealthier countries are redoubling efforts to buy an experimental vaccine and antiviral drugs in the hopes of protecting their citizens from infection.</B></center>
At the United Nations on Wednesday, President Bush proposed an "international partnership" to combat the disease, and the United States announced last week that it had placed orders for $100 million worth of a promising but technically unlicensed vaccine that is under development by the French drug maker Sanofi-Aventis.

"We cannot afford to face the pandemic unprepared," Lee Jong Wook, the director of the World Health Organization, said Thursday at the United Nations.

The health agency and the European Union have been urging countries for months to prepare for the possibility of a human pandemic caused by the bird flu virus, even as they have acknowledged that there is no current risk. The virus, A(H5N1), which has killed millions of birds, only rarely infects humans and does not normally spread from person to person - a basic requirement for human epidemics.

But scientists are worried that it could someday acquire that ability through one of several biological processes. In the wake of the unprecedented damage caused by Hurricane Katrina, calls for better disaster planning against disease seem to have taken on new urgency.

Roche Pharmaceuticals was struggling to fill huge recent orders from 30 countries for antiviral drugs, placed as part of disaster planning, said Martina Rupp, a spokeswoman for the company. Those countries include Australia, France, England, Singapore and South Korea.

"We have learned in the past weeks that bad things can happen very fast," said Michael O. Leavitt, the secretary of health and human services, as he explained the need for the new partnership to fight bird flu.

Specialists say planning for the possibility of a worldwide pandemic is difficult because the vaccines are novel and the drugs have not been used in this capacity before.

But as countries spend tens of millions of dollars to prepare for bird flu, they are investing in uncertain and untested strategies, WHO officials acknowledge.

The basic problem is that the A(H5N1) virus has not changed in a way that would allow for widespread human infection. What is more, health officials said they would not know precisely how to combat the virus until after it mutated, when they would be able to study its composition and how deadly it was.

"We know we're overdue for an influenza pandemic strain, and we know it will occur, but we don't know when or even exactly what virus will cause it," said Dick Thompson, a WHO spokesman. "It is possible that the virus won't be H5N1 at all or that this virus will change in a way so that the vaccine under development doesn't work against it."

He said the health agency would not comment on whether it was rational for countries to spend so much on medicine orders. But, he added, "We think it is wise because it encourages the companies to do the research and development on this very difficult problem."

The bird flu virus has two characteristics that make it capable of igniting a pandemic. It is a new virus, so humans have no defenses against it. It produces severe disease, killing about half of those infected, almost all through contact with sick birds.

"H5N1 has pandemic potential but it is not a pandemic virus," Mr. Thompson said, because it does not spread easily among humans.

But flu viruses are prone to mutation and exchanging genetic material when they infect an animal together. So one big fear is that an ordinary human flu virus and the bird flu virus could mix genes, creating a new type of lethal human bird flu virus.

Because many viruses only attack certain species, this would most likely only occur in humans or pigs, scientists say. But no one knows how likely this is. If it happened, the health agency estimates that it could kill 2 million to 7.4 million people worldwide. Others have made estimates in the tens of millions.

To prepare for the possibility of human bird flu, governments are racing to buy the only two types of medicine known to have potential against the disease.

The first is a novel vaccine that is in the final stage of clinical trials. The second strategy is to buy one of several antiviral drugs, which are known to shorten the duration of influenza among those already infected and to reduce the likelihood of serious and deadly complications
 
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<B><center><font size=+1 color=blue>Bird flu threat looms</font>
<A href="http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/eng/news/breaking/?show=74182">Media's Engineering news</A>
September 19 2005
Health officials unanimously agree that a recently-evolved avian flu virus, Influenza A (H5N1), has one small genetic adjustment to make before it becomes transmissible between humans.</B></center>
In the event of this change, the virus may lead to the largest pandemic the world has seen.

While there is little we can do to prevent this, perhaps we should be asking ourselves how well South Africa and South African industry are prepared for the ramifications of a pandemic of these proportions. Avian influenza is a common highly-contagious and naturally-occurring virus among bird populations.

Of the existing subtypes, the H5N1 virus is currently the greatest cause for concern.

Although it has been in existence for some time, it has recently caused extensive epidemics in domestic bird populations and, as a result, humans are being more readily exposed to the virus.

H5N1 first infected humans through direct contact with infected birds in Hong Kong in 1997. Since then, it has resulted in a significant number of infections and deaths throughout South East Asia.

The high mortality rate can be attributed to the human population's lack of immunity to the virus. Never having been exposed to the virus before, humans are highly susceptible to infection and readily succumb to it.

Common flu viruses develop subtle variations every year. While the adaptations may cause deaths among the elderly, the infirm and very young children, human populations tend to develop some level of immunity to the virus as a result of exposure to similar viruses.

The danger lies in a completely novel virus, such as H5N1, to which no one has developed any level of immunity, resulting in high infection, mortality and morbidity rates.

Although the virus is virulent, it has not yet become transmissible between humans. Deaths to date have been the result of transmission between birds and humans and, although cases of human-to-human transmission have been suspected, these have been inconclusive.

H5N1 is a highly-adaptable virus which has recently become less virulent for birds. This implies that the virus can spread more easily with birds during migration.

Experts agree that an outbreak would pose the most serious current threat to the global community. They estimate that the H5N1 virus could cause a pandemic similar to the Spanish influenza pandemic of 1918, during which 25-million to 100-million people died worldwide.

This figure includes documented cases in the First World as well as probable Third World undocumented cases.

Influenza pandemics occur roughly every 70 years and are the result of a change in the outer coating of the influenza virus - the antigenic surface - against which white blood cells react. Each year sees an outbreak of influenza and, at the same time, a 'drift' in the antigenic layer.

Drift implies a marginal change in the virus to which we have some resistance, but which still causes infection.

Every 70 years or so witnesses a 'shift' in the antigenic layer - a complete alteration - so that our bodies have absolutely no previous experience of exposure to the virus and have no defence against it.

This may occur when a virus that normally infects other species, such as birds, pigs or horses, learns to infect humans.

Health officials propose that H5N1 may grow into a pandemic by a process of gradual mutation or it may change through a 'mixing vessel', which is a species susceptible to bird and human viruses, such as pigs.

While initial strategies involved trying to prevent the virus from getting a hold in the poultry stock in Asia by means of mass culling, it has been agreed that the virus is endemic. Mass culling is, therefore, economically untenable as well as futile.

Experts suggest that slowing down the spread of the virus to delay its repercussions may be the only solution, as it will buy time for the manufacture of an appropriate vaccine.

The possibility of a worldwide pandemic has prompted the World Health Organisation to publish new international health regulations, suggesting methods to deal with outbreaks.

Director of intensive care at Johannesburg Hospital Professor Guy Richards urges South African preparedness in the face of this global threat.

He says that the only way to inhibit the spread of the virus is by means of vaccination, a method that is not currently available to us, as one would have to be manufactured for a strain capable of human-to-human transmission.

Even the availability of an effective vaccine would not protect South Africa from H5N1,since international vaccine manufacturers, who are based in the US and Europe, would be likely to provide antivirals and vaccines to their own populations before providing countries like South Africa, which are “low on the feeding chain”, says Richards.

While South Africa does not manufacture vaccines, a feasibility study is currently under way to determine the viability of such an endeavour.

Richards says, however, that, as the study is yet to be completed, the necessary construction of a facility capable of development and manufacture of a vaccine would take too long to be of use if the virus were to cause a pandemic in the near future. The more people who are vaccinated, the greater the likelihood of preventing the virus from spreading, though little could be done for those already infected. The antiviral drug - Oseltamivir - which is still somewhat effective against the virus, is being stockpiled by world powers like the UK, the US and Japan. Manufacturers have advised stockpiling, saying that, in the midst of a pandemic, companies would be unable to supply sufficient drugs.

Richards says that South Africa has yet to register the drug with the Medicines Control Council, meaning that it cannot be imported legally into the country.

In South Africa, between 10-million and 12-million people are affected by common flu viruses every year. Richards estimates that at least this number would be infected with H5N1, although it is likely that it would affect more people, taking into account human susceptibility.

Considering the high mortality rate associated with H5N1, he suggests that the worst-case scenario for South Africa would involve the loss of between 6-million and 8-million people.

A pandemic of this magnitude has not been experienced before and we are, therefore, unprepared for the effects it may have, says Richards.

He adds: “Existing plans presuppose the existence of a healthy ground force who will be able to participate in the control process.” Richards' concern is that this significant loss of life would include the country's ground forces, such as the armed forces, the police service and, in particular, health-care workers. He suggests that, should the virus mutate and become transmissible between humans, South Africa may have to close its borders in order to protect its population against infection.

“Our hope is that the virus delays its ability to spread from human to human long enough for the world to make enough vaccine,” says Richards.

“We must remember, however, that, if it starts before the vaccine is produced in adequate amounts, South Africa will be one of the last countries to receive the vaccine.”

Richards warns that the virus is likely to affect all countries, particularly those like South Africa, which has a large international-communication system.

He cautions against panic, but stresses that we must take the situation seriously and make plans for such an eventuality in advance.

We should plan a coordinated national response in the event of a pandemic as well as source vaccine and currently-available therapies such as Oseltamivir, he adds.

South African National Institute for Communicable Diseases (NICD) director Professor Barry Schoub suggests that the conditions facilitating the transmission of the virus from birds to humans may include population dynamics as well as ecological issues.

Human-population increase has led to closer contact between humans and animals, greater quantities of domestic and commercial poultry farming, as well as more contact with wildlife. Due to agricultural expansion, farmers are coming into greater contact with aquatic birds, which are a reservoir for the development of flu viruses.

As a result, domestic birds and humans are coming into closer contact with less-known varieties of flu. It is in instances such as these that other animals, such as pigs and horses, can become a mixing vessel for the virus to become transmissible between humans.

The virus would become an international threat once it mutates to enable human-to-human transmission, which would encourage a rapid spread.

Although a vaccine is available for poultry, no human vaccine for H5N1 has yet been developed. Schoub says that developing a vaccine would not be difficult, but the problem lies in the time it would take to manufacture and distribute such a vaccine.

He adds that Oseltamivir is still relatively effective as a treatment drug, even though H5N1 has built up a small degree of resistance to it. The resistance, however, is not a significant cause for concern as yet.

H5N1 has displayed an alarmingly high mortality rate, though it has since dropped to less than 30%.

Schoub explains that the reason behind these figures is that only the most serious cases, those who have required intensive-care treatment and many of whom subsequently died, were identified.

Many other infected cases were probably not recorded.

However, the lower mortality and morbidity rate are not a reason for apathy, especially if one is to consider the influenza pandemic of 1918, which had a mortality rate of 2,5%.

Schoub emphasises the importance of preparedness in the face of a virus that could pose serious health risks. While vaccines are the best form of preparedness, they are not 100% effective and could not entirely eliminate the virus. Nevertheless, they would certainly confine its spread.

Netcare Travel Clinics medical director Dr Andrew Jamieson says that South Africa's ongoing health concerns, such as HIV/Aids and malnutrition, make the formulation of a plan to deal with H5N1 more problematic.

These significant health issues detract from the attention that should be given to the pandemic threat and, in the event of a pandemic occurring, will exacerbate the problem.

Jamieson explains that previous pandemics, such as the 1918 Spanish influenza, resulted in significant fatalities even among young adults, suggesting that, regardless of youth, strength and the immunity associated with these factors, the virus is likely to affect everyone.

It is thought that the virus will probably occur in two waves - an initial infection that spreads around the world, with a second wave during the following winter months.

Jamieson says that there is little we can do to prevent the pandemic in South Africa.

While we may be able to stockpile the antiviral agent Oseltamivir, this would be a stopgap that might be able to reach between 2% and 5% of the population. It may be used in an attempt to protect healthcare workers.

Jamieson adds that the vaccine currently being stockpiled by the UK may give some protection, but will not necessarily protect against the virus in its pandemic form.

In order to cause a pandemic, the virus will have to alter its genetic make-up slightly, and the current vaccine is only functional against the known strain of the virus.

Jamieson estimates that, in the worst-case scenario, the virus could kill between 100-million and 250-million people worldwide while, in the best-possible instance, it would cause approximately 7-million deaths.

“We are looking at a major threat to world order and stability,” says Jamieson.

H5N1 would affect most companies and, combined with South Africa's high HIV incidence in the military forces, the police service and among teachers, the results could be apocalyptic. Water and electricity services would also be under serious threat.

As part of the Netcare group, the travel clinic is involved in intelligence on infectious diseases.

Jamieson says the organisation examines how infectious diseases affect companies and is particularly involved in megaprojects and infrastructural-development projects.

Any labour-intensive industry, such as construction or mining, would be affected by an outbreak and, hence, awareness for the sake of risk management is essential.

H5N1 is considered to present a substantial risk in terms of company risk management.

“The risk of outbreak should be on the radar screen of risk-management practitioners throughout the country,” says Jamieson.

He explains that, as a healthcare organisation, risk management within the company includes maintenance of essential services within the organisation, education services for staff and hygiene education.

“There are a number of non-medical practices that could help to prevent the spreading of the virus,” says Jamieson.

The organisation is also examining the value of stockpiling antiviral agents for its own purposes as well as the most rapid possible means to obtain vaccines.

It is also examining how a pandemic will affect systems within the company, such as provident funds and medical aid.

Jamieson emphasises the importance of infrastructural issues, such as the generator capacity for hospitals where influenza cases would be nursed, what would happen if hospitals were swamped and how nursing staff would be managed in the event of a pandemic.

He says the South African government has an initial action plan, although, with the current health problems, the validity of stock-piling expensive drugs in preparation for a pandemic pales in the face of immediate health needs. Netcare is also engaged in an initiative with government and a local vaccine company to begin vaccine manufacture. Jamieson points out that, unless we have our own manufacturing facility, we will not be able to obtain vaccines timeously.

He adds that manufacturing vaccines is expensive, but that a flu-vaccine market does exist in South Africa. Ideally, we should manufacture vaccines annually, as there is a need to produce vaccines for the three flu strains that infect people during the interpandemic flu phase. Vaccine manufacture is risky and can involve batch failures.

As a result, it will require government backing or subsidy.

Nevertheless, this virus is worth the money, even as a simple national defence strategy, says Jamieson.

South Africa will look at maintaining essential services as part of its national disaster plan.

Jamieson advises that South Africa should be looking at implementing an organised plan that is as comprehensive and affordable as possible at government level.

He adds that there is reason to believe that we are moving towards this through the Department of Health and the NICD.

Within the private sector, companies should be aware of H5N1, and risk managers involved in large projects should take measures to mitigate that risk as much as possible.

Jamieson emphasises the importance of routine interpandemic flu vaccination. Although this would have no effect against a pandemic, it would assist the country to develop an infrastructure that enables more-efficient distribution of influenza vaccines, thereby building capacityto immunise the population once a suitable vaccine has been developed.

By limiting the number of people infected with common flu viruses, combinations of the avian H5N1 virus with common human viruses can be prevented, avoiding the creation of a superbug that is readily transmissible between humans. This is of greater importance in Asia, however, where direct infection from birds is more likely to happen. Vaccine producers claim that within 9 to 12 months of having the correct vaccine, about 5-billion doses could be produced, barring batch failures. It would then become an issue of distribution, says Jamieson, and it is likely that the developing world would suffer the most due to logistical costs.

He says the future of the virus is unstable and may fulfil a number of predictions. H5N1 could develop greater virulence in birds and eventually burn itself out among the bird population. Alternatively, it could develop into a mild flu, although this is unlikely, as influenza A is generally not a mild virus. It could combine with one of the common flu viruses, becoming less virulent and more transmissible, or it could continue as it is for years to come.

Considering viruses' growing ability to survive for longer periods outside the body, and the suggestions of transmission between humans, Jamieson doubts this, saying that all the pointers indicate the virus gathering momentum and developing into a pandemic.
 
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Here is where the news begins to sound like H5N1 is going human to human
(there are several articles in this train)

<B><center><font size=+1 color=purple>Suspected H5N1 Cases in Jakarta Indonesian Children Mounts</font>
<A href="http://www.recombinomics.com/News/09190501/H5N1_Indonesia_Children.html">Recombinomics Commentary</A>
September 19, 2005
News reports quoted Santoso Suroso, director of the Sulianti Saroso Infectious Disease Hospital, as saying that two children, aged 18 months and 3, were admitted to the hospital in North Jakarta late Sunday.</B></center>
The number of children hospitalized with bird flu symptoms continues to grow. There appear to be at least four children hospitalized, but the number of suspect cases may be as high as six. At least two have tested positive for H5N1 and those samples have been sent to Hong Kong for confirmation.

One victim, 8 years of age, is a relative of Rini Dina (37F) who died and was H5N1 positive based on a PCR test. It remains unclear if the 8 year old, who has since developed symptoms, is among those listed as patients in the Sulianti Saroso Infectious disease hospital.

Another victim, age 6 (initials MT), is also listed as positive in lab tests. That patient was originally admitted to Siloam Gleanegles hospital in Tangerang and then transferred to the infectious disease hospital.

In addition to the two patients above, there are 2-3 additional patients at the hospital. One is 3 years of age and another is 18 month. Earlier reports had indicated there were three patients at the hospital, so the total appears to be 4-5 as of Sunday evening.

Another death, a 2 month old child who died of pneumonia and lived above a chicken slaughterhouse is under investigation.

The above cases are in addition to the 8 year old index case of the auditor's family cluster, and her 1 year old sister.

Thus, the number of confirmed or suspected children infected with H5N1 in the Jakarta area is between 7 and 9, which is in addition to the two adults who were PCR confirmed to be H5N1 infected. The two unrelated adults were government office emplyees and were related to at least 3 of the children described above.

It is unclear why H5N1 cases have been concentrated among children, or why the two adults have been government office workers. Many of the cases are known to be from the Tangerang region southwest of downtown Jakarta. It remains unclear if any of these cases are linked to the H5N1 confirmed infections in the Rangunan Zoo or the pet birdcage across the street from two of the victims. However 3 of the children have died as have two adults, which is the highest concentration of H5N1 fatalities recorded. None of the children have been discharged and most have been recently admitted to the hospital, so the case fatality rate may be very high, since 5 have already died.
 
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B><center><font size=+1 color=red><center>H5N1 Wild Bird Flu at Ragunan Zoo in Jakarta Indonesia? </font>
<A href="http://www.recombinomics.com/News/09190502/H5N1_Indonesia_WBF.html">Recombinomics Commentary</A>
September 19, 2005
The minister said that among the birds that had tested positive for bird flu were peacocks, mynahs, wild ducks, pigmy chickens, eagles and herons. </B></center>
The H5N1 positive wild ducks raise the possibility that the outbreak at the Ragunan Zoo, south of Jakarta, may be linked to migratory birds. Migratory birds were involved in H5N1 transport and transmission in Qinghai and Xinjiang provinces in China as well as Russia, Kazakhstan, and Mongolia.

After a lull in outbreaks, new outbreaks in Russia may signal the migration of these birds to warmer climates. Birds from Qinghai Lake were expected to fly to the south and east, which could transmit H5N1 to birds that winter in southeast Asia.

The sequences of the H5N1 wild bird flu at Qinghai Lake in China or Chany Lake in Russia are similar to each other, but distinct from earlier sequences from Indonesia. Thus, sequencing of the H5N1 from the birds at the Ragunan Zoo should determine if the H5N1 is similar to sequences from poultry in Java or sequences from Qinghai Lake. Sequencing would also determine if recombinants between the two distinct sequences had been formed.

Recombination drives H5N1 evolution, and such recombination may account for the dramatic up tick of H5N1 cases in children in the Tangerang section of Indonesia, in a southwest suburb of Jakarta.
 
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Here's another one suggesting that H5N1 may be at Phase 6 in Inonesia..

<B><center><font size=+1 color=brown>Suspected H5N1 Cases in Jakarta Indonesian Children Mounts</font>
<A href="http://www.recombinomics.com/News/09190501/H5N1_Indonesia_Children.html">Recombinomics Commentary</A>
September 19, 2005
News reports quoted Santoso Suroso, director of the Sulianti Saroso Infectious Disease Hospital, as saying that two children, aged 18 months and 3, were admitted to the hospital in North Jakarta late Sunday.</B></center>
The number of children hospitalized with bird flu symptoms continues to grow. There appear to be at least four children hospitalized, but the number of suspect cases may be as high as six. At least two have tested positive for H5N1 and those samples have been sent to Hong Kong for confirmation.

One victim, 8 years of age, is a relative of Rini Dina (37F) who died and was H5N1 positive based on a PCR test. It remains unclear if the 8 year old, who has since developed symptoms, is among those listed as patients in the Sulianti Saroso Infectious disease hospital.

Another victim, age 6 (initials MT), is also listed as positive in lab tests. That patient was originally admitted to Siloam Gleanegles hospital in Tangerang and then transferred to the infectious disease hospital.

In addition to the two patients above, there are 2-3 additional patients at the hospital. One is 3 years of age and another is 18 month. Earlier reports had indicated there were three patients at the hospital, so the total appears to be 4-5 as of Sunday evening.

Another death, a 2 month old child who died of pneumonia and lived above a chicken slaughterhouse is under investigation.

The above cases are in addition to the 8 year old index case of the auditor's family cluster, and her 1 year old sister.

Thus, the number of confirmed or suspected children infected with H5N1 in the Jakarta area is between 7 and 9, which is in addition to the two adults who were PCR confirmed to be H5N1 infected. The two unrelated adults were government office emplyees and were related to at least 3 of the children described above.

It is unclear why H5N1 cases have been concentrated among children, or why the two adults have been government office workers. Many of the cases are known to be from the Tangerang region southwest of downtown Jakarta. It remains unclear if any of these cases are linked to the H5N1 confirmed infections in the Rangunan Zoo or the pet birdcage across the street from two of the victims. However 3 of the children have died as have two adults, which is the highest concentration of H5N1 fatalities recorded. None of the children have been discharged and most have been recently admitted to the hospital, so the case fatality rate may be very high, since 5 have already died.
 
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<B><center><font size=+1 color=green>H5N1 Toll in Jakarta Indonesia Contues to Grow</font>
<A href="http://www.recombinomics.com/News/09180504/H5N1_Indonesia_Toll.html">Recombinomics Commentary</A>
September 18, 2005
The main zoo in Indonesia's capital was shut down after 19 of its birds died of the avian influenza that has killed four people in the sprawling country, officials said today.</B></center>
The zoo will be closed for at least three weeks pending an investigation. Birds that test positive for the disease will be killed, all others will be vaccinated against the deadly virus.

Three patients, meanwhile, were being treated as suspected bird flu cases at the Sulianti Saroso Infectious Disease Hospital, said Dr Santoso Suroso, who was awaiting lab tests to confirm whether or not they had the illness.

There was no evidence that any of them was infected at the Ragunan Zoo, he said.

The above comments raise the number being treated to three at the infectious disease hospital. It is not clear if the relative, who is positive and has symptoms, has been admitted, so that may be the fourth patient being treated. That is in addition to the four who have died and the 2 month old who has not been tested.

The update also indicates that the testing at the zoo was due to bird deaths. It is unclear if the 27 tested were all dead. If so, the inclonclusives and negatives remain suspected false negatives.

The widespread nature of H5N1 in pigs, poultry, and people demands and aggressive testing campaign, including re-tests of the 20 earlier suspect cases.

The true extent of H5N1 in humans in Jakarta and elsewhere in Indonesia remains unclear.

Indonesia is clearly an area where H5N1 cannot be wished away.
 
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<B><center><font size=+1 color=blue>Two Indonesian children suspected of bird flu</font>
19 Sep 2005 05:29:23 GMT
Source: Reuters
<A href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/JAK20597.htm
By Tomi Soetjipto">www.alertnews.com</A>
JAKARTA, Sept 19 (Reuters) - Two children have been hospitalised in Indonesia with suspected bird flu and a large zoo in Jakarta has been closed after tests showed some exotic birds had the virus, government ministers said on Monday.</B></center>
The highly pathogenic H5N1 strain of the virus has killed four Indonesians, including one woman who died in Jakarta a week ago. The virus has killed 64 people in four Asian countries since late 2003 and has also spread to Russia and Europe.

"Until now, three children are being treated in a hospital ... two are suspected of having the symptoms of bird flu based on the lab tests. The other one is still under observation," Health Minister Siti Fadillah Supari told local El Shinta radio.

Indonesia sends blood tests from all suspected bird flu cases to Hong Kong for confirmation.

Officials also announced that the country's biggest zoo, on the outskirts of Jakarta, had been closed for three weeks after bird flu was found to have infected 19 exotic birds.

"It confirms what we have thought for a while, that the H5N1 virus is widely spread in Indonesia," Georg Petersen, the World Health Organisation's (WHO) representative in Indonesia told Reuters when asked to comment on the latest developments.

Agriculture Minister Anton Apriyantono told Reuters that officials had identified bird flu in various exotic birds at Jakarta's popular Ragunan zoo.

"The Jakarta governor has ordered the closure of the zoo for 21 days following reports the birds were detected with the virus," he said, adding officials planned to conduct tests on around 2,100 birds at the zoo.

He said infected birds that were on the list of protected species would be isolated and given medical treatment initially, while others will be killed immediately.

Asked about any plan for a mass culling of poultry and birds in south Jakarta, where the virus has most recently appeared, Apriyantono said: "We are monitoring developments very seriously. We are working on the next steps and will make an announcement very shortly".

PANDEMIC

The WHO would support recommendations by the World Organisation for Animal Health and by the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) for a mass cull in Indonesia, Petersen said.

Health officials last week said that bird flu had killed a 37-year-old woman who lived near a chicken farm in south Jakarta, and that another person who had close contact with her was also suspected of having the virus.

The WHO said last week that bird flu was moving toward becoming transmissible by humans and that the international community had no time to waste to prevent a pandemic.

Most of the people killed in Asia since 2003 caught the virus from infected birds. Health experts say the greatest worry is that H5N1 could mutate and become transmissible between people.

Besides Indonesia, bird flu has killed 44 people in Vietnam, 12 people in Thailand and four in Cambodia.
 
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<B><center><font size=+1 color=purple>H5N1 Pandemic in Jakarta Indonesia Approaches Phase 6</font>
<A href="http://www.recombinomics.com/News/09180501/H5N1_Indonesia_Phase_6.html">Recombinomics Commentary</A>
September 18, 2005
MT, a seven-year-old girl, currently being treated at the Sulianti Saroso hospital in North Jakarta, tested positive on her blood test, but negative on the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test, said Minister of Health Siti Fadilah Supari as quoted by news portal detik.com.</B></center>
The minister nor other senior officials of the ministry could be immediately reached for confirmation.

The girl was previously treated at the Siloam Gleneagles hospital in Tangerang and was referred to Saroso on Sept. 14. The ministry was still waiting for the results of a second PCR test.

It was also investigating another suspected case, identified only as a family member of Rini Dina, the country's most recent confirmed bird flu fatality. The relative tested positive on the blood test and is currently suffering from flu-like symptoms, such as a fever and sore throat, which are also symptoms consistent with early stages of avian influenza.

"We are taking the patient to a hospital for observation as soon as the family approves," she said.

Siti added that there was a high possibility of other suspected cases and that the public must be vigilant against the spread of the disease. She declared that the country was already in the "third stage of bird flu" and although there had not been any reports of human-to-human transfer of the virus, she added that "it is just a matter of time."

The above comments suggest Indonesia is already at stage 4 or 5 and the pandemic is close to the final stage 6 which is defined by sustained human-to-human transmission.

Human-to-human transmission was clear in the initial family cluster, which involved 3 members of a family of a government auditor (38M). His eight year old daughter was the index case, showing symptom on June 24. The time gap between her symptoms and her 1 year old sister who developed symptoms on June 29 is a strong signal of human-to-human transmission. Such a 5-10 day gap has been present in almost all familial clusters in Vietnam, Thailand, and Cambodia. WHO however, has refused to acknowledge the virtual certainty of human-to-human transmission in all or most of those cases, which account for more than one third of confirmed cases. Instead WHO maintains that the vast majority of cases come from poultry, thereby contributing to more human-to-human transmission within families, which is clearly happening in Tangerang.

The WHO position is compounded by use of lack of lab tests or false negatives to exclude patients. In the family of the auditor, only he is an official case because his PCR test was positive. There were only two serum samples from the index case and both were positive in tests by two independent outside labs (in Hong Kong and Atlanta). There was no doubt that the child died from H5N1 bird flu, but since the serum samples were collected just three days apart, the rising titer (a sign of recent infection) had not risen four fold in the three days, so only the father was called a confirmed case. This exclusion justified the repeated claims of "no evidence of human-to-human transmission", when in fact there was little doubt that the gaps in onset dates of June 24, 29, and July 2 indicated the index case infected her sister and father directly or indirectly.

The comments above indicate there is another familial cluster between the fatal case of the immigration officer and one of her relatives, who is also laboratory confirmed. Both of these clusters are in families of government workers who would have little direct contact with poultry or pigs. Moreover there are two neighbors with symptoms and the two familial clusters live in the same area of Tangerang, southwest of the center of Jakarta.

This concentration of fatal, lab confirmed H5N1 is the highest ever reported and is likely to represent a fraction of the human cases because there are no reports of infection in those most associated with poultry and pigs.

Sequencing data from the earlier familial cluster indicates there is no reassortment with human genes and the sequence is similar to sequences found in poultry in Java. Since H5N1 is endemic to Indonesia and extremely limited testing in Tangerang found H5N1 in pigs, poultry, and a pet birdcage, the opportunity of infections from animals and humans is extremely high.

WHO has yet to issue a warning to family members caring for relatives with H5N1 infections, thereby contributing to the human-to-human spread, which has been clear since the beginning of 2004 in Vietnam.

Instead, words of assurance are issued to the press and official counts bury the human-to-human transmissions and maintain a pandemic stage 3 when clearly the level is at 4 or 5 and will soon be phase 6.

WHO's failure to inform is hazardous to the world's health. H5N1 does not read press releases. In evolves via recombination and acquisition of mammal polymorphisms, which increases the likelihood of efficient human-to- human transmission.
 
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<B><center><font size=+1 color=red>Massive H5N1 Infections at Ragunan Zoo in Jakarta Indonesia </font>
<A href="http://www.recombinomics.com/News/09180502/H5N1_Indonesia_Zoo.html">Recombinomics Commentary</A>
September 18, 2005
Apriantono told the ElShinta private radio that 19 out of 27 samples taken from various birds at the zoo, including pigmy chickens and eagles, contained the bird flu virus.</B></center>
Four other samples were inconclusive and the remaining four were negative, he said.

'Usually two weeks are enough but we decided to raise it to three weeks to make sure unwanted things would not happen,' Apriyantono said of the closure, adding that some 2,100 birds in the zoo's collection will be tested for the virus.

The above comments indicate the bird population at the Ragunan Zoo in the Pasar Minggu suburb of Jakarta is heavily infected with H5N1. Since there was no mention of bird deaths, it would appear that the birds are asymtomatically infected. The zoo is 16 km due south of Jakarta near the agriculture department.

In contrast, the cases in Tangerang are southwest of Jakarta. The pet birdcage across the street from the first Tangerang cluster was H5N1 positive, but the bird appeared healthy. Thus, without testing it is unclear how widespread H5N1 is among pet birds, but the limited testing described in Indonesia's OIE report clearly showed that H5N1 was widespread and in poultry and swine in several Tangerang sub-districts.

Although H5N1 is widespread, testing is minimal. In the neighborhood of the first cluster, only 3 chickens were reported tested. Similarly, in the closest sub-district the reported tests were also limited to 3 chickens. This testing is absurd and designed to generate negatives for inclusion in press releases. In two more Tangerang sub-districts where testing was somewhat expanded, H5N1 was readily detected in swine and poultry.

The number of human cases continues to mount, and the number of false negatives is exceedingly high. Only one of the three infected family members in the initial cluster were PCR positive. Thus, far there has only been one additional PCR positive case although several patients with symptoms also have H5N1 antibodies.

The testing in Indonesia is scandalously poor. The H5N1 positive swine in Tangerang was largely ignored. After 3 members of a government worker died, very limited testing and culling was done. When another government office worker died, a press conference cited negative tests in a 100 meter radius that excluded the chicken slaughterhouse 100 meters from the victims house.

The number of reported positives remains obscure. Four are dead that were clearly H5N1 infected. At least two more have H5N1 antibodies and symptoms. There may be another positive child and a 2 month old who lived above a chicken slaughterhouse and died of pneumonia was not tested.

The reported cases appear to be limited to government employee family members with little contact with poultry. The concentration of lab confirmed H5 fatalities in one small neighborhood is the highest on record.

The time has passed for an aggressive testing campaign to determine the extent of H5N1 in poultry, swine, pet birds, and people.

WHO's position, including counting on one fatality in the original H5N1 familial cluster, is dangerous to the world's health.
 
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<B><center><font size=+1 color=brown>St. Jude's children's hospital on the front line in bird flu fight</font>
<A href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/09/18/st_judes_childrens_hospital_on_the_front_line_in_bird_flu_fight/">By Maggie Fox, Reuters </A>
September 18, 2005
MEMPHIS -- It seems an unlikely place to launch a war against a bird virus health officials believe could soon mutate into a human pandemic that will kill millions -- a hospital filled with children fighting devastating genetic diseases and rare cancers.</B></center>
But Robert Webster likes the daily reminders, in the form of children pulled around in colorful wagons or sitting propped against a mother's lap, that the work begun in a laboratory has real life-and-death outcomes.

And the private funds raised by St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital in Memphis are helping Webster and his team of international virus specialists fight what some say may be the biggest threat to humanity right now -- avian influenza.

''We could be heading for a global catastrophe," Webster said in an interview in his corner office overlooking the expansive hospital campus.

If bird flu were to start spreading among people, more than 25 million hospital admissions and up to 7 million deaths globally would follow within a short period, according to British researchers who model epidemics using computer programs.

Webster's team works out of high-tech labs set up by the St. Jude organization, launched by Lebanese-American entertainer Danny Thomas in the 1950s to care for children with cancer and other hard-to-treat diseases.

Ever since Webster and his colleagues discovered that aquatic birds such as ducks were the natural reservoirs of influenza and that the virus has several ways of changing quickly into a mass killer, he has said it is only a matter of time before a flu virus takes on a form that will kill millions of people.

''You just don't know when it is going to happen," Webster said. ''But I think some of the policy makers and politicians are starting to listen."

When Webster saw the avian flu strain called H5N1 for the first time in Hong Kong in 1997, he thought this might be it.

The virus hopped from ducks to chickens, killing chickens in a day, and infected 18 people who handled the birds, killing six, before authorities stopped it with the slaughtered of poultry and closings of bird markets.

No one thought it was gone for good, and when flu specialists first heard about a mysterious virus that was killing people in China's Guangdong Province at the end of 2002, they feared that H5N1 had come back. In fact, it was Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome.

The panic over SARS upstaged the reappearance of H5N1 in China in 2003, and this time the authorities did not act so quickly or decisively.

Now it has killed or forced the slaughter of tens of millions of domestic birds in China, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, Cambodia, Japan, and elsewhere. It has killed more than 60 people, although it does not yet easily infect humans or pass from human to human.

It has been found in wild birds in Mongolia and now in flocks in Kazakhstan and Russia.

''This virus keeps extending its range," Webster said. ''It is out there spreading like crazy among the wild birds of Asia."

Not everyone is convinced that migrating birds are spreading H5N1, but Webster is.

Between studying dead birds in Australia and the viruses that infected them in London, Webster and colleagues worked up the idea that influenza viruses originate in birds -- mostly ducks.

These natural hosts, or reservoirs, do not usually become ill when infected, but incubate and spread the viruses.

But how do the viruses acquire the ability to infect new species, and how does their disease-causing nature change? Webster also helped discover how viruses do this.

One way is by steady mutation. Influenza is an RNA virus, meaning it is error-prone because it only uses one copy of the genetic code to replicate itself. That results in frequent variation, or mutation, of the virus, and ultimately one form will spread from person to person.

''The clock keeps ticking. Every time this virus replicates, it makes mistakes," Webster said. ''Sooner or later it will make the mistakes that will allow it to go human to human."

There is a quicker way. If two different viruses are in a cell together, they can swap pieces of their genes, a process called reassortment. ''It's virus sex," said Webster.

This reassortment caused the global flu pandemics of 1957 and 1968 that killed many people -- 4 million in 1968 -- because humans had no immunity to the new viruses that arose.

All it takes is for one person to become infected with H5N1 while also infected with ordinary human flu. This may have happened in 1918, when a new strain of flu killed as many as 40 million people globally, most of them healthy, young adults.

''We don't even know the mistakes it made in 1918 that allowed it to go human to human," Webster said.

Specialists in the Biosafety Level 3 lab at St. Jude's are studying the genetics of H5N1 to try to find precisely what ''mistake" H5N1 needs to make it something people can easily transmit to one another.

In this lab, with its specially sealed doors, air circulation controls, and showers to scrub down everyone who exits, it is possible to play around with deadly viruses.

Webster has been working here since 1968, when he was recruited to study influenza coincidentally just as the last global pandemic of disease was getting underway.
 
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<B><center><font size=+1 color=green>US to Lead Delegation to SE Asia to Increase H5N1 Surveillance</font>
<A href="http://www.recombinomics.com/News/09170505/H5N1_SE_Asia_Delegation.html">Recombinomics Commentary</A>
September 17, 2005
Leavitt said he would next month lead a delegation to Southeast Asia, where half of the 112 people affected by the disease had died, for talks with government leaders to seek "their critical involvement and personal commitment to preparedness and response."</B></center>
During the visit to Thailand, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam, Leavitt said he would be "negotiating agreements with the most affected nations to offer assistance to build their capacity, to identify outbreaks and respond rapidly when needed."

"We feel a common and genuine sense of urgency," he said, adding that his delegation could include World Health Organization (WHO) chief Lee Jong-wook as well as the heads of the UN Food and Agriculture Organization and World Animal Health Organization.

A day after Bush launched an international blitz to check avian flu's spread, the WHO, UN Food and Agriculture Organization and at least 16 nations agreed to join the campaign, US officials said.

They include Argentina, Australia, Britain, Cambodia, Canada, China, India, Japan, Malaysia, New Zealand, Nigeria, Russia, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam.

The trip to southeast Asia is another step in the right direction. The four countries on the itinerary all have endemic H5N1 that have proven fatal in humans. The failure to report any cases in Thailand or Laos this year is almost certainly due to reporting or testing problems that have led to an under-reporting of cases. In Laos and Cambodia, surveillance programs lack funding. The lack of bird flu human cases in Thailand is highly suspect because of the large number of outbreaks in birds with H5N1 that is very similar to H5N1 from human cases in Vietnam and Cambodia.

An increased surveillance network in these critical countries is essential for early interventions and the cost is a tiny fraction of the damage that would be created by a pandemic.

It would also be useful to launch serious screening programs in Indonesia, Nepal, and India where under-reporting is likely to be high. These programs may indicate that even wider screening is required, but the sooner the better. At this time, the extent of human infections is largely unknown and the new cases in Indonesia suggest many versions of H5N1 can infect humans. More transparency in China is also required. Samples from fatal cases in Sichuan province should be independently tested and sequence data in general should be made public more quickly.

The sequence data from southeast Asia from 2005 is extremely low. There have only been two sequences from Thailand and for Vietnam there have been less than a dozen sequences and only H and N are available. Similarly, there are no 2005 swine or poultry sequences from Indonesia. These sequences exist and should be made public immediately.
 
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<B><center><font size=+1 color=blue>Ministry suspects new human bird flu case </font>
Jakarta
<A href="http://www.thejakartapost.com/detai...0918.A02&irec=1">The Jakarta Post</A>
After recently confirming the country's fourth bird flu fatality, the Ministry of Health reported another suspected case on Saturday.</B></center>
MT, a seven-year-old girl, currently being treated at the Sulianti Saroso hospital in North Jakarta, tested positive on her blood test, but negative on the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test, said Minister of Health Siti Fadilah Supari as quoted by news portal detik.com.

The minister nor other senior officials of the ministry could be immediately reached for confirmation.

The girl was previously treated at the Siloam Gleneagles hospital in Tangerang and was referred to Saroso on Sept. 14. The ministry was still waiting for the results of a second PCR test.

It was also investigating another suspected case, identified only as a family member of Rini Dina, the country's most recent confirmed bird flu fatality. The relative tested positive on the blood test and is currently suffering from flu-like symptoms, such as a fever and sore throat, which are also symptoms consistent with early stages of avian influenza.

"We are taking the patient to a hospital for observation as soon as the family approves," she said.

Siti added that there was a high possibility of other suspected cases and that the public must be vigilant against the spread of the disease. She declared that the country was already in the "third stage of bird flu" and although there had not been any reports of human-to-human transfer of the virus, she added that "it is just a matter of time."

The ministry has prepared 44 hospitals nationwide to handle suspected and reported cases as well as for surveillance efforts.

It is also bringing in some 10,000 doses of bird flu medicine called Tami Flu, which is recommended by the World Health Organization. "We are negotiating with Roche, the Food and Drug Control Agency and WHO to recommend importing the medicine," Siti said.

Given to patients showing clinical symptoms of flu in the first 48 hours, Tami Flu is believed to have been able to mitigate the effects of the virus. "But, if it is given when the patient is already suffering from pneumonia-like symptoms, it will not work," she said.

Indonesia saw its first human fatality in July this year, when the virus killed Iwan Siswara Rafei and his two young daughters. On Friday, WHO confirmed that Rina, who died last weekend, had been infected by bird flu.
 
-H5N1 news, with-in the past 48 hours has changed both in nature and in subject matter. FWIW (and IMHO). The bug is off an running


<B><center>FX News Limited
<font size=+1 color=blue>Bird flu pandemic could be impossible to contain after a few weeks - WHO</font>
09.20.2005, 09:02 AM
<A href="http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds...afx2233488.html">www.forbes.com</A>
NOUMEA (AFX) - Any global bird flu pandemic could be impossible to contain a few weeks after the initial outbreak, a World Health Organization (WHO) expert warned here. </B></center>
'There's a very short time period -- two to four weeks between the onset of the first case -- in which containment is possible,' said Hitoshi Oshitani, the WHO's expert on communicable diseases.

'After four or five weeks ... it would have spread to too many places and then it will be probably impossible to contain,' Oshitani warned, speaking to the WHO's Regional Committee for the Western Pacific.

The latest outbreak of bird flu was detected in South Korea in Dec 2003. It has now hit 11 countries, with the H5N1 strain of the virus killing a total of 63 people in Southeast Asia.

The WHO fears a possible pandemic if the virus mutates and becomes more easily communicable to humans.

Oshitani said that in some affected countries like Cambodia and Vietnam, detection of bird flu cases could take weeks, if not months, making containment all the more difficult.

'So we have to implement some control measures in a very short time period,' he said, adding, though, that a human vaccine could take months to develop, by which time the disease could have spread uncontrollably.

'A prototype vaccine is available but the problem is the vaccine strain is based on the virus isolated in Vietnam last year. The virus continues to change and we don't know which virus will cause pandemic,' he said.

Oshitani, who helped lead the fight against the SARS virus which killed hundreds and ravaged Asian economies, said bird flu could be a much more difficult problem.

'The virus is already endemic in many places in Asia. We have now outbreaks in Mongolia, Russia, Kazakhstan. It is still spreading. It is historically unprecedented,' he said.

'If a pandemic occurs the impact will be much much higher than that of SARS (in terms of the) number of cases, number of deaths and also the economic impact.'

WHO director general Lee Jong-Wook had told the meeting yesterday that a pandemic is likely.

'It's obvious that a pandemic will occur, all the conditions are in place. The problem now is time,' Lee said.

The WHO said countries should prepare for a pandemic by stockpiling antiviral drugs and positioning them in high-risk areas; intensifying efforts in vaccine development; and preparing for massive social and economic disruptions.

It has developed an Asian Pacific Avian Influenza Action Plan that will need about 160 mln usd to implement. A donors' meeting will be held later this year to seek funds.
 
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<B><center><font size=+1 color=purple>EU warns against unilateral moves to fight bird flu</font>
20 Sep 2005 10:44:18 GMT
<A href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L20519692.htm">Source: Reuters AlertNet</A>
BRUSSELS, Sept 20 (Reuters) - Europe's health chief warned EU governments on Tuesday not to strike out on their own in the battle against bird flu and undermine coordinated efforts to prevent the disease from moving westwards into the EU-25.</B></center>
"It's very important to have a fully coordinated response to various animal health threats," EU Health and Consumer Protection Commissioner Markos Kyprianou told a news conference following a regular meeting of EU agriculture ministers.

"A fragmented response would not be as effective as a unified coordinated response," he said. "Based on the concerns of experts ... there is no need for extra measures besides increased surveillance of both domestic and wild birds."

In an apparent reference to last month's decision by the Netherlands to ban farmers from keeping poultry outdoors, Kyprianou said it would be better if EU governments did not take such measures without consulting Brussels first.
The Dutch measure was recently dismissed by EU veterinary experts and the European Commission as unnecessary. Three German states have issued similar orders.

Instead, the Commission -- the EU's executive arm -- has recommended that EU countries increase their surveillance of migratory birds, and places where wild and domestic birds may make contact with each other, such as ponds.
It has also issued guidelines for testing wild birds to guard against bird flu, and identified 15 species that may pose a higher risk of transmitting the virus.

"The veterinary field is a harmonised field. Member states should not take unilateral action without prior consultation because then this harmonisation is undermined," Kyprianou said.
 

Jaw

Member
Casual Human Transmision of H5N1 in Jakarta Raises Phase 5 Flags

Recombinomics Commentary
September 20, 2005

The reason for this, according to Minister of Health Siti Fadilah Supari, is that the number of victims is higher following the case of Iwan Iswara, an auditor at the Supreme Audit Agency (BPK), who died together with his two daughters a month ago.

"At that time, there was only one occurrence, that of Mr Iwan and his daughters. But now, there are two others, that of Rini Dina and Mutiara," said Supari during a meeting at her office in Jakarta on Monday (19/09).

Rina Dina died at Bintaro International Hospital on Saturday (10/09), while Mutiara is still being treated at Suliyanto Saroso hospital.

The above comments highlight the increase in human-to-human transmission, but the number of people developing symptoms is increasing steadily and most transmissions appear to be casual. These casual transmission are cause for major concern.

The first two suspect cases in the current wave suggest infection linked to close proximilty to a slaughterhouse may have cause the initial cases. Rini Dina developed symptoms on August 31 and was reported to live 100 meters from a slaughterhouse. One September 6, a 2 month old baby boy, Livo Rusting died of pneumonia. He had bird flu symptoms and lived above a slaughterhouse, which may have been the same slaughterhouse 100 meters from Rina Dina's home.

However, Rini Dina was a immigration officer and would have little contact with poultry. Similarly, the 2 month old would not have had direct contact. Both have died and Rini Dina tested positive for H5N1.

A neighbor was also reported to have developed symptoms, and this was probably Mutiara Gaytri, a 6 or 7 year-old girl who was initially admitted to Siloam Gleneagles hospital in Tangerang and then transferred to Suliyanto Saroso on September 14. She was also positive for H5N1 Thus, three neighbors appear to have been infected over a relatively short time frame..

However, H5N1 was transmitted further. Rini Dina's 8 year-old nephew also tested positive for H5N1 and it is not clear if he is Firdaus, a 9 year-old also at the Saroso hospital. He may not have been admitted yet, but has begun to show symptoms.

As noted above Mutiara Gaytri also transmitted H5N1. This transmission is said to be to an 18 month old contact with initials RH, who was admitted September 18 in critical condition.

Also admitted that day was Rosani Ningsih a three year old who is also in critical condition,

Early on the morning of September 19, a two or three year old girl named Windy Lisa was also admitted. She lived near a chicken farm in the northern section of Jakarta.

Today a five year old girl, Riska Ardian, was transferred to the hospital and placed on a ventilator, She had initially been diagnosed as having measles.

In addition to the steady stream of children being admitted, there are now at least three workers from the Ragunan Zoo, including a 28 year-old tour guide, a 39 year old food vendor, and a 50 year-old trader, who may be the second food vendor described in media reports. The zoo employees would not be expected to have close contact with the birds at the zoo, who are asymtomatic but have tested positive fro H5N1. The zoo workers are developing symptoms at about the same time signaling a major up-trend of patients who have bird flu symptoms but don't have direct contact with birds.

The growing familial and geographic clustering of cases in a relatively small area are cause for concern and suggest the pandemic has moved to phase 5, which is characterized by growing clusters of cases.

The lack of close contact with suspect sources of H5N1 infections raise concerns that the clusters will continue to grow, signaling a significant increase in efficient human transmission. The transmission is cause for concern is Jakarta is a major metropolitan city with an International Airport.

More testing and sequence data would be useful to see if the virus is novel and is a recombinant. Testing to see if the H5N1 is the same in the zoo employees and the Tangerang neighbors would be useful, as would the sensitivity to the amantadines.
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
jlee said:
I'm still not a doctor or any kind of medical professional. That being said,

A 50% mortality rate for the first 109 cases is probably not indicative of what would happen in the U.S. once the epidemic gets going.

This is a new disease; I assume that most of the victims were not diagnosed immediately (many probably only after death). So they may not have received the best treatment for this particular illness: even if it was only a case of "he's got the flu; bed rest, liquids, blah-blah-blah; should recover in several days" rather than "he needs special treatment immediately or he'll die!"

And hopefully the average American victim would receive much better medical care than the average Third World victim.

So even if it's a bad flu like the one that claimed one of my great-uncles eighty-five years ago, it still wouldn't kill anywhere near half of those who contracted it.


The 55% number came from a member of the CDC, who was doing a television interview yesterday. When I heard the mortality figures, I decided to do some research on this virus. Secondly, personally, I wouldn't expect any hospital treatment at all. Most hospitals will be either full, or locked down. With no vaccine, much of the personnel in these hopsitals will either be sick or dead. Cities that experience an outbreak will be 'locked down', with nobody allowed in or out.
If you are unlucky enough to live in a city where a reported case is made, don't count on fleeing..........................you will be in a mandatory quarantine. So yes, the mortality rate is 55%.
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
Thanks for the input Shakey.......here's more, just in, from Indonesia..........NOT GOOD.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/21/MTFH46404_2005-09-21_06-53-27_SCH124694.html


Indonesia says bird flu outbreak an epidemic
Sep 21 2:45 AM US/Eastern


By Telly Nathalia and Dan Eaton

JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia called an outbreak of bird flu in its teeming capital an epidemic on Wednesday as health and agricultural experts from around the world converged on Jakarta to help control the virus.

Health Minister Siti Fadillah Supari said the emergence of sporadic human cases of bird flu in recent months in and around different parts of Jakarta, home to 12 million people, warranted the epidemic tag.

She was speaking before announcing that an initial local test on a five-year-old girl who died on Wednesday after suffering from bird flu symptoms was negative for the virus.

"This can be described as an epidemic. These (cases) will happen again as long as we cannot determine the source," Supari told reporters, but she insisted it would be wrong to label it a "frightening epidemic."

Four Indonesians are already confirmed to have died since July from the highly pathogenic H5N1 strain of bird flu, which has killed a total of 64 people in four Asian countries since late 2003 and has been found in birds in Russia and Europe.

Six other patients are still in a government-designated hospital in Jakarta suspected of having avian flu.

The U.N. World Health Organization last week warned bird flu was moving toward a form that could be passed between human beings and the world had no time to waste to prevent a pandemic, an outbreak that spreads far more widely than an epidemic.

Supari said the girl who died had been suspected of suffering from the virus. She said more local testing needed to be done, while blood samples would also be sent to a laboratory in Hong Kong for confirmation.

Georg Petersen, the WHO representative in Jakarta, said many foreign experts were helping Indonesia, including a high-level delegation from the United States that was currently here.

"Definitely the whole international community is very much present," Petersen told Reuters in a telephone interview.

The WHO was also working with the government to source new stocks of the anti-viral drug Tamiflu from India to bolster local stocks, he said.

"It's not very much, it's rather puny. They definitely need some more," Petersen said, adding that stocks being rushed from India were less than 1,000 doses.

Tamiflu is an anti-viral tablet that can help against infection. Several companies are working on a vaccine, but tests are not expected to begin until later this year.

Supari said Indonesia had 10,000 Tamiflu tablets.

MASS CULL

Agriculture Minister Anton Apriyantono said Indonesia would conduct a mass cull of poultry where any outbreak of bird flu was serious.

"We haven't identified the high-intensive areas but once it is done then there will be (a mass cull). According to the president, funds will not be a problem, if it needs to be done then we will do it with all our resources," he told Reuters.

Officials have previously said the government did not have enough money for a mass cull or to compensate farmers.

The government has appealed for public calm over the virus, which has dominated local media reports in recent days.

On Monday, the government imposed a state of high alert, which gives authorities the power to order people showing symptoms of the virus to be hospitalized.

Despite growing alarm about bird flu in Indonesia, Fauzi Ichsan, an economist at Standard Chartered in Jakarta, said there was no immediate concern it would hit Southeast Asia's largest economy.

"The fact that we are an archipelago means, geographically, the disease might not be as problematic...," he said.

The latest suspected cases in Indonesia included a worker and two food vendors at the city's main zoo, which was closed this week after tests found some exotic birds in the zoo's collection were infected.

Besides Indonesia, bird flu has killed 44 people in Vietnam, 12 people in Thailand and four in Cambodia.


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All TB2K members should now be on alert..........it's a matter of time before this thing spreads. When you read statements like these, "Despite growing alarm about bird flu in Indonesia, Fauzi Ichsan, an economist at Standard Chartered in Jakarta, said there was no immediate concern it would hit Southeast Asia's largest economy."...................then you should be even more suspect.
Take precautions, and begin learning about this illness now.


Take heed here,

"The WHO was also working with the government to source new stocks of the anti-viral drug Tamiflu from India to bolster local stocks, he said."

"It's not very much, it's rather puny. They definitely need some more," Petersen said, adding that stocks being rushed from India were less than 1,000 doses.
 
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