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World Asteroid Day: 'Figure out what a life is worth' - Astronomer warns asteroids could kill thousands
Other experts claim 'awareness' of danger is just 'scaremongering'

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30/06/2015 | 08:07
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A "global movement to protect Earth from asteroids" is what Asteroid Day is all about - but are we really at any risk?

Yes, according to US-based astronomer Scott Manley who maintains that potential contributors to the "cause" need to "figure out what a life is worth."

"The risk is enough for us to put something seriously together to really figure that out," he told RTE Radio 1 this morning.

"There's not much in the speed of the asteroids but you need to know when and where they hit."

A number of organisations - including the nonprofit B612 Foundation - has invested time and money into researching the likelihood of near-earth objects (NEOs) hitting the planet.

New technology is being developed to determine the path of these asteroids in order to potentially evacuate communities or send spacecraft to intercept deadly objects.

Although Ireland is not directly under an asteroid path, it is at risk from impacts in the Atlantic Ocean and North Sea which could trigger tsunamis, however small the likelihood may be.

Dr Hugh Lewis, Senior Lecturer in Aerospace Engineering, at the University of Southampton, added: “It’s very easy to be flippant because of the Hollywood effect but it is a real risk.

"Small asteroids are hitting the Earth all the time, and even if we don’t anything large, we are still likely to have tens of thousands of people dying in the next 85 years.

“New software not only allows us to see where an impact is likely to happen but we also simulate what might happen if we tried to deflect it, such as by using a spacecraft to give it a slow push in space.

The last large asteroid to hit Earth was the Tunguska impact of 1908 which felled 80 million trees over an area of 830 square miles, with the energy of 1,000 atom bombs.

The Chelyabinsk meteor which hit Russia in 2013 injured nearly 1,500 people.

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BrendanGM

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Actually Mr. Astronomer, I think you need to remember the human element.

It's called: "Directed Deep Impact" - or the threat of
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
It is coming...

Bet on it.


" The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. "
 

JF&P

Deceased
I'd like to know how a rock/star doesn't cause a tsunami or much worse....yet makes water bitter? Whereas a "star" would destroy the earth.

I don't buy that interpretation.

I think when it happens it will surprise everyone as to how its fulfills scripture.
 

NoName

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I'd like to know how a rock/star doesn't cause a tsunami or much worse....yet makes water bitter? Whereas a "star" would destroy the earth.

I don't buy that interpretation.

I think when it happens it will surprise everyone as to how its fulfills scripture.

I don't think we're meant to take the description as a literal translation. I mean, we all (or most of us at least) grew up calling meteors falling stars..modern science has shown they were likely never stars at all, but how many of us still call them falling stars? The tsunami? Dunno, and who knows how many unknown elements/minerals/bacteria/compounds there are out there to cause our waters to be bitter? All I know is it will all happen in G-ds time and per His Will.
 

NoName

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it just occurred to me, 1/3 of the earth's landmass is in the southern hemisphere.

Ah well then, no big loss..wait, wouldn't that send us wobbling off into the sun? Still, not like we didn't know how the Book ends.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
I'd like to know how a rock/star doesn't cause a tsunami or much worse....yet makes water bitter? Whereas a "star" would destroy the earth.

I don't buy that interpretation.

I think when it happens it will surprise everyone as to how its fulfills scripture.

Not sure I follow...

It looks to me as one event.

Meteors often push smaller fragments ahead of the. That is the "rain of fire" which causes things to burn. Followed by another "mountain on fire" a major heavenly body, which crahes into the ocean and destroys a third of the marine life and ships... It will cause a tsunami but that may not hit major coastlands... Following that is another object which may/may not explode in the atmosphere and emit poison gases and pollutes the water supply.

"a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea..."

Seems pretty clear cut to me.

You seem good at disagreeing with a lot of interpretations. I have seen you disagree with rapture doctrine and the Islamic Anti-Christ doctrine, even in light of very clear supporting scripture. But, I have NEVER seen you post your own thoughts after disagreeing.

So, I'm curious...

I am very open to other interpretations PROVIDING there is scriptural evidence backing the interpretation.

You say, "I don't buy that interpretation. I think when it happens it will surprise everyone as to how its fulfills scripture. "

What do YOU think the prophecy is saying?
 

TerryK

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The last large asteroid to hit Earth was the Tunguska impact of 1908 which felled 80 million trees over an area of 830 square miles, with the energy of 1,000 atom bombs.
The Chelyabinsk meteor which hit Russia in 2013 injured nearly 1,500 people.
And the Tunguska asteroid never even hit the earth. It blew up at some altitude above the earth and still caused massive damage.
 

marymonde

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Ragnorak, I agree it's clear that something will come out of the heavens, as the bible tells us, but things never occur exactly how we perceive it may happen. I get what both of you are saying. :)
 

Old Gray Mare

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I'd like to know how a rock/star doesn't cause a tsunami or much worse....yet makes water bitter? Whereas a "star" would destroy the earth.

I don't buy that interpretation.

I think when it happens it will surprise everyone as to how its fulfills scripture.
Biblical prophesies are always clear in hindsight. Just because a tsunami is not predicted does not mean it can't happen and how do you think a Biblical era mystic would interpenetrate a meteor or comet impact, nuclear fall out or wind blown dust from a super volcano? Wormwood will do.


Roman Wormwood (Artemisia_pontica)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisia_pontica
The essential oil contains cineol, camphor, thujone, and borneol among other components.[5] It is said to be less bitter than great absinthe and is the principal flavoring of vermouth.[6] It is commercially cultivated in Spain and Lithuania[7]
 

Richard

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OK fine I would ask what needs to be done to combat or avoid an asteroid hit, constructive suggestions please.

Yes an asteroid or comet hit in the wrong place could cause the deaths of millions.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
it just occurred to me, 1/3 of the earth's landmass is in the southern hemisphere.

Yes, but "the meek shall inherit the earth" and that may also be interpreted as the poorer Southern Hemisphere.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
OK fine I would ask what needs to be done to combat or avoid an asteroid hit, constructive suggestions please.

Yes an asteroid or comet hit in the wrong place could cause the deaths of millions.

Several magnetic fields plotted in front of the trajectory. Just a nudge from far away.
 
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Richard

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Tubes built around the rock with magnets that spun through them setting up their own rotation contrary to the rocks own; and then plotting that vector and interrupting it as required.

In the year 2525 2525, that was my idea too........

didn't check the year....
 
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vestige

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If it hits in the center of the State of the Union address, right on the main podium at least some good will come of it. One about the size of an Olds 98 would be about right.
 

poppy

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Not sure I follow...

It looks to me as one event.

Meteors often push smaller fragments ahead of the. That is the "rain of fire" which causes things to burn. Followed by another "mountain on fire" a major heavenly body, which crahes into the ocean and destroys a third of the marine life and ships... It will cause a tsunami but that may not hit major coastlands... Following that is another object which may/may not explode in the atmosphere and emit poison gases and pollutes the water supply.

"a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea..."

Seems pretty clear cut to me.

You seem good at disagreeing with a lot of interpretations. I have seen you disagree with rapture doctrine and the Islamic Anti-Christ doctrine, even in light of very clear supporting scripture. But, I have NEVER seen you post your own thoughts after disagreeing.

So, I'm curious...

I am very open to other interpretations PROVIDING there is scriptural evidence backing the interpretation.

You say, "I don't buy that interpretation. I think when it happens it will surprise everyone as to how its fulfills scripture. "

What do YOU think the prophecy is saying?

Here's my interpretation FWIW. Mountains are symbolic of nations in the Bible and seas are symbolic of masses of people. Burning with fire may well mean a violent nation or nations. Wormwood means bitterness. So, it could mean a violent nation was cast into the people and 1/3 of them tasted the bitterness of that event. It may be it's already happened when Islam came to be and we are seeing that bitterness today. It may also refer to satan being cast to earth by Michael and his angels and 1/3 of the people falling for his lies.
 

Dozdoats

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Yes an asteroid or comet hit in the wrong place could cause the deaths of millions.

I would venture to suggest that there is no "right" place on earth for a comet or asteroid of any substantial size to hit. Remember ELE?
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Here's my interpretation FWIW. Mountains are symbolic of nations in the Bible and seas are symbolic of masses of people. Burning with fire may well mean a violent nation or nations. Wormwood means bitterness. So, it could mean a violent nation was cast into the people and 1/3 of them tasted the bitterness of that event. It may be it's already happened when Islam came to be and we are seeing that bitterness today. It may also refer to satan being cast to earth by Michael and his angels and 1/3 of the people falling for his lies.

Ok...

I can understand that viewpoint and you are correct on your definition of both "mountains" and "waters".

Thank you.
 
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