CRIME Windows 10 - The Surveillance State goes Mainstream

chilepotle

Contributing Member
What this article leaves out is that Windows 10 comes with a universal kill switch - since you cannot easily opt out of updates, whenever they want Microsoft can download whatever software they want, almost when they want, to completely take over control of your computer, shut it down, and perhaps even disable it. If there is "an event" they will do this, bank on it.

Linux is one of the best preping tools you can have in this regard as its much easier to control what it does (like turn off automatic updates via yum/dpkg/apt-get/etc)

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...stream-windows-10-watching-logging-everything

The Surveillance State Goes Mainstream: Windows 10 Is Watching (& Logging) Everything

If Edward Snowden's patriotic exposure of all things 'super secret surveillance state' in America were not enough, Newsweek reports that, as 10s of millions of hungry PC users download the free upgrade, Windows 10 is watching - and logging and sharing - everything users do... and we mean everything.

Windows 10 should be renamed to Spyware OS https://t.co/4N8x3XJ9dv

— Thomas Fuchs (@thomasfuchs) July 31, 2015

From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company saves customers' basic information - name, contact details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics - but it also digs a bit deeper... and finding answers is not easy, as one privacy expert exclaimed, "there is no world in which 45 pages of policy documents and opt-out settings split across 13 different Settings screens and an external website constitutes 'real transparency'."

As NewsWeek reports,

More than 14 million devices are already running Microsoft’s Windows 10 after its global launch on Wednesday, but it’s unclear how many of their users read the company’s Privacy Policy and Service Agreement before downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pages’ worth of terms and conditions (effective August 1) is a substantial power grab: The company is collecting data on much of what you do while using its new software.


From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company saves customers’ basic information - name, contact details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics - but it also digs a bit deeper.


Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. Furthermore, “your typed and handwritten words are collected,” the Privacy Statement says, which many online observers liken to a keylogger. Microsoft says they collect the information “to provide you a personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write.”


All this information doesn’t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. The company says it uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide and improve its services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to display targeted advertising, which sometimes requires the information be shared with third parties.


Though possibly surprising to some, the company’s data collection practices fit within the industry’s new normal.


Also like its competitors, Microsoft says it will disclose content of private communications or files in saved documents to “respond to valid legal process.” In the company’s latest bi-annual transparency report released in late March, it disclosed that of the 31,002 government requests for information received between June and December 2014, it disclosed content of personal communications in 3.36 percent of cases and non-content data in 73.17 percent.

Microsoft didn’t respond to requests for comment about specifics of the privacy terms, but in a blog post introducing them, Microsoft’s deputy general counsel, Horacio Gutierrez, calls the Privacy Statement a “straightforward resource for understanding Microsoft’s commitments for protecting individual privacy.” Alex Meer of the gaming website Rock Paper Shotgun countered, “There is no world in which 45 pages of policy documents and opt-out settings split across 13 different Settings screens and an external website constitutes ‘real transparency’.”
 
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NoName

Veteran Member
So, got a question to the folks knowledgeable about such things. I currently have Win7 and don't plan on updating to 10, but know that the time will come when 7 will no longer be supported..could I download a Linix OS and run it concurrently so it would be available when that time comes? Heck, may even become a convert and wipe Win7 off completely, ya never know. Anyway..will that work, and are there any drawbacks if I do so?
 

Hacker

Computer Hacking Pirate
So, got a question to the folks knowledgeable about such things. I currently have Win7 and don't plan on updating to 10, but know that the time will come when 7 will no longer be supported..could I download a Linix OS and run it concurrently so it would be available when that time comes? Heck, may even become a convert and wipe Win7 off completely, ya never know. Anyway..will that work, and are there any drawbacks if I do so?

We've had several threads on this topic. Likewise, there's lots of info on the web.

You can set up your computer so that you can 'boot' into either Windowz or Linux. I have a couple of systems set up this way, although I almost always use the Linux side.

Here's more info on it: http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?468680-How-to-get-started-with-Linux-A-beginner-s-guide&highlight=linux+boot
 

chilepotle

Contributing Member
In addition to running dual boot, another option is to run the other operating system as a "virtual machine" - you can run Linux within Windows, but running Windows within Linux is better since having a Windows/Microsoft virtual host is probably not a good idea.

Assuming you had Linux and that your hardware supports virtualization (a large number of Intel & AMD CPUs do), you could run KVM, Xen, VMWare, VirtualBox, and a host of others (excuse the pun). Setting this up is not as hard as it might seem. These are roughly the Linux equivalent of the "Parallels" application under Apple OS X
 

Seeker

3 Bombs for Hawkins
OK, Here is the stupid-user question - how do I find someone to install Linux for me? And where do I get it? And what can it be installed on? ( Please be gentle, I'm a computer Luddite.)

P.S. I just arrowed over to Housecarl's "Beginning Linux" forum, which caused my eyes to glaze over and my teeth to itch. Are there technicians out there who would help me achieve this highly recommended system? And how do I find one? What are the words I should use when asking for this help? And what version am I going to want? His thread indicates there are numerous options . . .
 
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Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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You can get an installable Ubuntu CD that works just like Windows. Insert the CD and it installs. Or pay the Geek Squad to do it.
 

Hacker

Computer Hacking Pirate
You can get an installable Ubuntu CD that works just like Windows. Insert the CD and it installs. Or pay the Geek Squad to do it.

Dennis. I like Ubuntu, but I like Linux Mint more.

I've been running Linux Mint for about 8 years now. It's a derivative of Ubuntu, but it's cleaner and it has all the drivers you need included as part of the install.

I suggest Linux Mint 17.2 (Mate interface).

If you're unfamiliar with the various partitioning schemes used under Linux, I suggest you get some technical help for the installation. That way, you'll be able to do future upgrades with less concern for overwriting your existing data.
 

Seeker

3 Bombs for Hawkins
Thanks Dennis and Hacker (and anyone else who takes pity on me and offers suggestions). I do appreciate your advice.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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If you do a major o/s install without a complete backup first, you deserve what you get.


Just sayin...
 

Dosadi

Brown Coat
There are umpteen tons of tutorials for almost any major destro of linux you might find interesting. Some are very user friendly, others a bit less.

This is a youtube about duel boot installing win 7 beside linux mint 17 (Cinnamon is its 'name')

While not a perfect tutorial, you can at least see what mint looks like and how this fellow sets up his duel boot.

Note: It is possible to download and make a bootable usb / dvd of mint and 'test drive it" from the cd / dve or the usb drive. (will run slower than a hard drive /ram but you can play around with different destroys without the time to instal / remove em)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67zWPv1vIkk



The last part where he mounts the windows to be visable in the linux. Just skip over that unless you know what you are doing and really want / need to reach windows. Much better to leave linux and boot to windoze if you need windoze stuff. I tend to put any files on a usb drive, then read it in linux / windows if it is something like a .DOC file / etc.
 
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OddOne

< Yes, I do look like that.
How does Windoze 10 compare with Apple, as regards privacy?

Microsoft is being overt about it. Apple is (historically) not at all overt on security matters. Of course some of the security concerns stem from folks not grasping that the predictive and assistive technologies (e.g., Cortana, predictive search, etc.) require watching and learning from how you use the PC and this by definition requires snooping. And some stems from the fact that Microsoft has never taken security as seriously as they should. And the rest stems from the fact that MS wants to offer you as a product, just like Google/Facebook/Twitter does, and the ominous-sounding EULA parts that say "we reserve the right to look at everything you do" is for this purpose.

If you cannot inspect the source code for the files in the OS, assume anything and everything is fair game for being snooped on. The only OSs that are safe from this are the UNIXes and Linux distributions that ship with or publish full source code. Apple's OS X is based on FreeBSD and some - but not all - of it is open-source, so Apple is hit-or-miss on this point.
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic
From first post

Windows 10 - The Surveillance State goes Mainstream

What this article leaves out is that Windows 10 comes with a universal kill switch - since you cannot easily opt out of updates, whenever they want Microsoft can download whatever software they want, almost when they want, to completely take over control of your computer, shut it down, and perhaps even disable it. If there is "an event" they will do this, bank on it.

I wonder how Canadian Privacy Law will be impacted by Windows 10? or other countries?

So far I have not heard any discussions on this in the Canadian MSN.

NW
 
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