CORONA Will You Get a Coronavirus Stimulus Check?

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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I have been fairly convinced we … as a family and as a business … would never see any stimulus money directly. One, there's no way I'm going to take a loan from the government. Uh uh, no how, no way, disaster waiting to happen. Two, the way they are setting the bar it is going to cut out a lot of people. And three, since I don't know how they are going to expect me to pay this back I'm not signing up.

That said, some of our tenants that have been let go or temporarily laid off from their jobs may get it. I'll let everyone know how rent collections are the beginning of the month. I suspect we will take a temporary hit because people will fraudulently use the temporary stopping of serving eviction papers. What people are going to find out though is that the orders don't stop late fees, late payment reports to credit agencies, etc. We're willing to work with it always, but don't abuse our willingness and don't assume it either, especially if you are already chronically late with payments. Counting on this so-called stimulus check to cover your bases is beyond foolish.

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Will You Get a Coronavirus Stimulus Check?

(from Motley Fool)

People around the world are suffering from the impact of the coronavirus pandemic, with hundreds of thousands of cases of COVID-19 and signs of further spreading. Many are also struggling economically as national, state, and local governments both in the U.S. and across the globe use extraordinary measures to try to stem the spread of the disease.

Lawmakers in Washington agree that Americans need relief from the economic impacts of the coronavirus crisis, but they've fought hard about exactly how the federal government should provide that relief. Now, it appears that senators and representatives in Congress have come to a deal that firms up exactly what people should expect -- and under that deal, not everyone would get a check.

Below, we'll look more closely at the reported details.

What a coronavirus stimulus check would look like
Early proposals about how to give ordinary Americans some help took several different paths. Initially, some wanted to offer people a payroll tax holiday, which would've boosted take-home pay for workers and also provided businesses with some relief as well. However, opponents noted that eliminating payroll taxes wouldn't help those who'd already gotten laid off or had their hours cut, and it also raised questions about future financial support for Social Security and Medicare.

In response, lawmakers pivoted to a more direct method: sending $1,000 checks to everyone. That would have the benefit of getting money into the hands of those who need it quickly. Again, though, some officials questioned whether everyone really needed to get cash now.



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The compromise position looks like this:

  • Each eligible adult will receive up to $1,200 from the government.
  • For every child in a given household, the amount of the total check would go up by $500.
  • However, there are income limits on receiving the stimulus check. If your adjusted gross income is less than $75,000 for single filers and $150,000 for joint filers, then you'll get the full amount. For every $100 you earn above those limits, though, the payment drops by $5. That means that for those with no children and income levels above $99,000 for singles and $198,000 for joint filers, no stimulus check would come. Those with incomes between those levels would receive a reduced stimulus check payment.
Some of the logistical details aren't yet entirely pinned down, but one aspect that could cause considerable confusion is in determining income for purposes of the legislation. In an effort to get the checks out as quickly as possible, the federal government apparently intends to use 2018 reported income as filed on federal tax returns in determining eligibility. However, some believe that the final legislation could treat the payments as an advance credit that will be verified on 2020 tax returns. That raises the question of whether taxpayers will have to establish their eligibility again based on 2020 income levels -- and potentially have to pay back their stimulus checks if their income rose between 2018 and 2020.

When will the coronavirus stimulus checks come?
There's also some uncertainty about how quickly Americans should expect to receive their cash. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has assured the public that he intends to try to get checks out within two weeks.

However, many are skeptical about how quickly the government can do the necessary legwork to get money out to Americans. Because of the income-based eligibility limits, the Internal Revenue Service will have to get involved in cross-checking who should get a check and who shouldn't. With IRS staffing already at reduced levels and also facing coronavirus-related pressures, it could be more difficult than usual to fast-track sending stimulus checks.

Don't spend it yet
If you've been waiting for a final word on stimulus checks to feel comfortable making some discretionary purchases, you should probably wait longer if you can. Until final legislation makes its way through Congress and the Treasury figures out the exact process involved, you should plan on some delays in getting your coronavirus stimulus check.
 

straightstreet

Life is better in flip flops
I'm not really sure yet if DH and I will get one. If we do though, it will stay in the account at the credit union for next year's tax filing because we all know that money is not"free". We closed our bank account in 2019 and went strictly credit union. If the govt uses the bank acct number, it will be bounced back anyway.
ETA: it would be nice if we could "opt out".
 
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FROG

Contributing Member
If it is an advanced credit, that would mean that since I already have to pay taxes, I would have to pay more.

Edited for clarification
 

Faroe

Un-spun
Hopium, and a trap.
The Good Cop/Bad Cop tug-of-war with Pelosi is getting a little...predictable.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Answer: Who knows.
Too early to know what they have cooked up, or how well or poorly the whole thing will be implemented.
 

michaelteever

Deceased
For fair use education/research purposes.

The link: Coronavirus Stimulus Checks: Here's Who's Eligible For Relief Payment

Coronavirus Stimulus Checks: Here's Who's Eligible For Relief Payment
By Casey Bond and Arthur Delaney

If all the alarming coronavirus headlines have your anxiety at an all-time high, here’s some good news: A highly anticipated stimulus package meant to provide financial relief to consumers and businesses struggling in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic is ready to be set in motion.

Though the details of the plan have yet to be finalized and voted on, Congress has essentially agreed on the major provisions. The CARES Act, which lawmakers spent the past several days hashing out, includes a historic $2 trillion in relief funds.

But the big question on most people’s minds is whether they qualify for a cut of the money. Here’s a look at the plan, who qualifies and when you can expect to get paid.

Do I qualify for a coronavirus relief check?

The amount of money you may receive as part of this stimulus package is based on your adjusted gross income. If you already filed your federal taxes for 2019 (the deadline was extended to July 15), eligibility will be based on your AGI from that tax return. If you haven’t filed yet, the IRS will rely on information from your 2018 return or the Social Security Administration to determine eligibility.

Here’s the bad news: Not everyone will qualify for a relief check.

The maximum amount you can receive is $1,200, or if married filing jointly, $2,400 per couple. That amount phases out for single filers with an AGI between $75,000 and $99,000, joint filers with an AGI between $150,000 and $198,000 and heads of household with an AGI between $112,500 and $146,500.

Those who qualify for the $1,200 credit will also receive an additional $500 for each qualifying dependent 16 years old or younger.

Those excluded from receiving a coronavirus relief check include nonresident aliens, taxpayers who can be claimed on someone else’s return as a dependent, and estates and trusts.

How will stimulus checks be paid out?

The stimulus money is technically a tax credit for 2020 that will be paid out, in advance, as soon as possible. “For the vast majority of Americans, no action on their part will be required in order to receive a rebate check as IRS will use a taxpayer’s 2019 tax return if filed, or in the alternative their 2018 return,” a summary of the legislation says.

That means even though many taxpayers haven’t even filed their 2019 taxes yet, qualifying recipients will still receive their checks in the coming weeks ― that is, if they’re set up for direct deposit. According to Senate aides, you will receive your stimulus payment quickly (the president is pushing for a deadline of April 6) as long as you have bank account information on file with the IRS. If not, it could take up to four months to receive a physical check in the mail.

About half of households have filed their 2019 taxes already even though the deadline has been extended to July due to the pandemic, and for the other half, the IRS may use their 2018 data. But if they didn’t file that year either, they’ll need to file their 2019 return to get any money.

A problem with this policy is that some households may have been eligible based on their income from one year, but not the other, and will potentially miss out on relief.

Another potential problem is that millions of households don’t file tax returns even though they may have paid federal taxes through payroll contributions. There’s not much information about such households, but one study said roughly 8 million households paid taxes in 2003 and didn’t file 1040s, meaning they may have left refunds on the table.
Low-income households that do their taxes with the help of certified Volunteer Income Tax Assistance clinics will be out of luck, with the pandemic having shuttered those offices.

“This would have been an ideal circumstance for somebody to walk in to a VITA site,” said Howard Gleckman, a senior fellow with the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. The best alternative may be to file for free online through one of the services linked on IRS.gov.

What else does the stimulus plan include?

In addition to direct payouts to American taxpayers, billions of dollars in benefits and loans will go to workers, businesses and hospitals to help them recover from the coronavirus fallout. There are numerous provisions outlined in the CARES Act; here’s a look at four major agreements included in the stimulus package.

1. Expanded unemployment benefits: The stimulus plan includes major upgrades to U.S. unemployment insurance, which Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) described as “unemployment insurance on steroids.” The stimulus plan adds $600 per week on top of what unemployment programs normally pay, with that extra cash lasting four months. Benefits are also extended by 13 weeks for workers who run out of the standard 26 weeks of state benefits (some states offer less). The new plan also eliminates the waiting period to receive benefits and includes previously ineligible workers such as freelancers, contractors and furloughed employees.

2. Help for small businesses: The stimulus plan also provides $350 billion in funding for emergency loans to small businesses. Those that promise not to lay off employees or commit to rehiring employees that they let go will have some or all of their loans forgiven. These federally guaranteed loans will be issued by community banks and will be available through June 30.

3. Bailouts for major companies: A $500 billion fund will be created to provide distressed businesses with emergency loans, with a set amount to be set aside to help specific industries that were hit particularly hard by the pandemic, such as airlines, hotels and casinos. (Trump businesses are barred from receiving any of this relief.) This fund will be managed by the Treasury Department.

4. Funding to hospitals and communities: Finally, $130 billion will go to hospitals and health systems that are struggling in the wake of the pandemic. Another $150 billion will be provided to state and local governments to fund relief programs.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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there are business loans and then there are these individual checks - the checks do not have to be paid back as they are not loans of any sort.

Read the article. They are neither free or loans. It says that the checks could be advances on tax refunds and in fact that is what I keep hearing most often, especially from accountants. If it is treated as additional income instead then a lot of people are going to wind up owing taxes just like they did after Obama gave out all the free money and other crap during his tenure.
 

bluelady

Veteran Member
For a zillion page document they sure could have made this a little more clear!

I read that part of the document last night. I was very tired, but I didn't see any restriction on work or IRS filing status: every individual under $75K AGI gets it whether working, SS, whatever. Plus $500 per dependent child.

What I think they haven't even decided yet is how they're going to find the people & get the money to them. It's supposed to go off 2018 tax return, or 2019 for those who have already filed. But if you didn't get a refund so no bank info they will have to send a check, and could take months for those people. In the past everyone who didn't file had to then file to get the check; that could take even longer, for those who need it most.

And yes, what *NO* reports are saying is that it's actually a tax credit for 2020. I have *NO* idea what that means in terms of paying it back.

Sorry, michaelteever, didn't see yours before posting.
 

IRoberge

Veteran Member
We are behind in tax filings and the accountant still has 2018 so I'm guessing we won't see a check. That's fine with me. It will just be taxable income next year and both of us will be working for the duration.
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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Are the checks taxable? No, they are not taxable.

The only catch is that technically a person’s 2020 income is what is qualifies them for the payment.

Since no one knows their total 2020 income yet, the government is using tax returns from 2019 and 2018 to figure out who qualifies for a check.

It is possible that someone may have to pay back some of the money if his or her income this year turns out to be significantly more than it was in 2019 or 2018. That’s expected to be a relatively small share of people, and the money would not have to be paid back until April 15, 2021.
 

Old Gringo

Senior Member
For fair use education/research purposes.

The link: Coronavirus Stimulus Checks: Here's Who's Eligible For Relief Payment

Coronavirus Stimulus Checks: Here's Who's Eligible For Relief Payment
By Casey Bond and Arthur Delaney

If all the alarming coronavirus headlines have your anxiety at an all-time high, here’s some good news: A highly anticipated stimulus package meant to provide financial relief to consumers and businesses struggling in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic is ready to be set in motion.

Though the details of the plan have yet to be finalized and voted on, Congress has essentially agreed on the major provisions. The CARES Act, which lawmakers spent the past several days hashing out, includes a historic $2 trillion in relief funds.

But the big question on most people’s minds is whether they qualify for a cut of the money. Here’s a look at the plan, who qualifies and when you can expect to get paid.

Do I qualify for a coronavirus relief check?

The amount of money you may receive as part of this stimulus package is based on your adjusted gross income. If you already filed your federal taxes for 2019 (the deadline was extended to July 15), eligibility will be based on your AGI from that tax return. If you haven’t filed yet, the IRS will rely on information from your 2018 return or the Social Security Administration to determine eligibility.

Here’s the bad news: Not everyone will qualify for a relief check.

The maximum amount you can receive is $1,200, or if married filing jointly, $2,400 per couple. That amount phases out for single filers with an AGI between $75,000 and $99,000, joint filers with an AGI between $150,000 and $198,000 and heads of household with an AGI between $112,500 and $146,500.

Those who qualify for the $1,200 credit will also receive an additional $500 for each qualifying dependent 16 years old or younger.

Those excluded from receiving a coronavirus relief check include nonresident aliens, taxpayers who can be claimed on someone else’s return as a dependent, and estates and trusts.

How will stimulus checks be paid out?

The stimulus money is technically a tax credit for 2020 that will be paid out, in advance, as soon as possible. “For the vast majority of Americans, no action on their part will be required in order to receive a rebate check as IRS will use a taxpayer’s 2019 tax return if filed, or in the alternative their 2018 return,” a summary of the legislation says.

That means even though many taxpayers haven’t even filed their 2019 taxes yet, qualifying recipients will still receive their checks in the coming weeks ― that is, if they’re set up for direct deposit. According to Senate aides, you will receive your stimulus payment quickly (the president is pushing for a deadline of April 6) as long as you have bank account information on file with the IRS. If not, it could take up to four months to receive a physical check in the mail.

About half of households have filed their 2019 taxes already even though the deadline has been extended to July due to the pandemic, and for the other half, the IRS may use their 2018 data. But if they didn’t file that year either, they’ll need to file their 2019 return to get any money.

A problem with this policy is that some households may have been eligible based on their income from one year, but not the other, and will potentially miss out on relief.

Another potential problem is that millions of households don’t file tax returns even though they may have paid federal taxes through payroll contributions. There’s not much information about such households, but one study said roughly 8 million households paid taxes in 2003 and didn’t file 1040s, meaning they may have left refunds on the table.
Low-income households that do their taxes with the help of certified Volunteer Income Tax Assistance clinics will be out of luck, with the pandemic having shuttered those offices.

“This would have been an ideal circumstance for somebody to walk in to a VITA site,” said Howard Gleckman, a senior fellow with the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. The best alternative may be to file for free online through one of the services linked on IRS.gov.

What else does the stimulus plan include?

In addition to direct payouts to American taxpayers, billions of dollars in benefits and loans will go to workers, businesses and hospitals to help them recover from the coronavirus fallout. There are numerous provisions outlined in the CARES Act; here’s a look at four major agreements included in the stimulus package.

1. Expanded unemployment benefits: The stimulus plan includes major upgrades to U.S. unemployment insurance, which Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) described as “unemployment insurance on steroids.” The stimulus plan adds $600 per week on top of what unemployment programs normally pay, with that extra cash lasting four months. Benefits are also extended by 13 weeks for workers who run out of the standard 26 weeks of state benefits (some states offer less). The new plan also eliminates the waiting period to receive benefits and includes previously ineligible workers such as freelancers, contractors and furloughed employees.

2. Help for small businesses: The stimulus plan also provides $350 billion in funding for emergency loans to small businesses. Those that promise not to lay off employees or commit to rehiring employees that they let go will have some or all of their loans forgiven. These federally guaranteed loans will be issued by community banks and will be available through June 30.

3. Bailouts for major companies: A $500 billion fund will be created to provide distressed businesses with emergency loans, with a set amount to be set aside to help specific industries that were hit particularly hard by the pandemic, such as airlines, hotels and casinos. (Trump businesses are barred from receiving any of this relief.) This fund will be managed by the Treasury Department.

4. Funding to hospitals and communities: Finally, $130 billion will go to hospitals and health systems that are struggling in the wake of the pandemic. Another $150 billion will be provided to state and local governments to fund relief programs.
"There is no such thing as a free lunch"

Now where have I heard that before ?
 

changed

Preferred pronouns: dude/bro
I'm not really sure yet if DH and I will get one. If we do though, it will stay in the account at the credit union for next year's tax filing because we all know that money is not"free". We closed our bank account in 2019 and went strictly credit union. If the govt uses the bank acct number, it will be bounced back anyway.
ETA: it would be nice if we could "opt out".

If you get a check from the fedgov and don't need the money donate it to the Salvation Army, buy ChickfilA, buy an AR14 and some clips (lol).
 

mikeabn

Finally not a lurker!
Not eligible but just as well. The last thing I need is untaxed income. I confess to being very worried about my tenants being able to pay rent.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Think of it as a bribe to quietly sell out what's left of your country without protest.

And just to be completely honest, if they send me one I will spend it ASAP - on ammo, if there is any left.
 

rbt

Veteran Member
have being wanting to look at a Springfield Hellcat maybe It won’t take as long to decide if I like there hard to even find.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
:jstr:God guns n grub, guys n gals....the new five G network. So if one was liberal with such a statement, one could twist it to buying guns n ammo, food, or the opposite sex......hopefully......
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
Read the article. They are neither free or loans. It says that the checks could be advances on tax refunds and in fact that is what I keep hearing most often, especially from accountants. If it is treated as additional income instead then a lot of people are going to wind up owing taxes just like they did after Obama gave out all the free money and other crap during his tenure.

Everything is so fluid and changing fast, but one of the MSM channels reported that this will not be taxed. We will see. This sounds too good to be true, actually.
 

bluelady

Veteran Member
Are the checks taxable? No, they are not taxable.

The only catch is that technically a person’s 2020 income is what is qualifies them for the payment.

Since no one knows their total 2020 income yet, the government is using tax returns from 2019 and 2018 to figure out who qualifies for a check.

It is possible that someone may have to pay back some of the money if his or her income this year turns out to be significantly more than it was in 2019 or 2018. That’s expected to be a relatively small share of people, and the money would not have to be paid back until April 15, 2021.
Seems like many people's salaries will be going down quite a lot this year.
 

TerriHaute

Hoosier Gardener
Fortunately, since we are retired and living on a fixed income (SS+private sector pension), our income has not been affected by the Cornavirus pandemic. Our taxes for 2019 have already been filed because we were due a small refund and so it looks like any stimulus checks we get will be automatically deposited into our savings account where the refund went. For our situation, a tax credit on 2020 taxes would be a lot more helpful than just cash that might bump us up to a higher tax bracket - we are that close. I wish we could choose.
 

byronandkathy2003

Veteran Member
about 45 mins ago while watching (channel 19 morning extra now )out of Cincinnati on ustvgo.tv .
they had a phone interview with a lady i forget her name at the moment..
but what she did say was every on soc sec will get a check as long as they are under the income threshold
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Fortunately, since we are retired and living on a fixed income (SS+private sector pension), our income has not been affected by the Cornavirus pandemic. Our taxes for 2019 have already been filed because we were due a small refund and so it looks like any stimulus checks we get will be automatically deposited into our savings account where the refund went. For our situation, a tax credit on 2020 taxes would be a lot more helpful than just cash that might bump us up to a higher tax bracket - we are that close. I wish we could choose.

A whole lot of stuff is up in the air right now. Got to pass it to know what is in it. The devil is in the details, which no one is sure on at this time.

Anyway, IF this is classified as a tax rebate, or tax refund, unless the small print say otherwise, those items are nor considered "income" and no tax will be added to it. You will note when filing your taxes, no line for "last years refund". The meaning is that you "overpaid" your taxes.

Don't get giddy over the above only time will tell. If we do get one, cool. I'm not spending it, just in case.
 
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