Why Romney Wont Get My Vote

Monty

Veteran Member
Many polls have shown RP to beat Obama- in fact he is probably the only one who can because he also has support of disappointed Dems and independents.

I think head-to-head Obama and the DNC (and media) would clean Dr. Paul's clock unfortunately.

I'm really on the fence which is worse, four more years of O or 8 years of Romney. If I felt strongly we could get a strong fiscal conservative in 2016 I would be tempted to say just suffer 4 more years of O.

Monty
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Have you adopted an unwanted child or child born out of wedlock?

If the churches in general, and Christians in specific, had done their job the last 40 years we wouldn't have an abortion or an adoption problem.

I have to call you out on this! Please tell me where all these magic unwanted babies are????

The fact is that there are not wards full of unwanted healthy babies. Sure there are plenty of 10 year old foster children that are pulled from meth houses, but not healthy babies. There are tens of thousands of couples who have to wait for years for a baby to be born and put up for adoption, instead of killed and dumped in the garbage. Many give up and try for foreign adoptions or not having children at all.

The idea that there are tons of unwanted babies in orphanages in this country is pure liberal bull that the pro-death crowd likes to lie about. Please don't bring that kind of outright lie here.

At for Romney, I will probably have to get pretty drunk to vote for him. But when the other name on the ballot is Obama, which I find to be equal with the devil, I will vote for him. But I'm still holding out hope that Ron Paul will pull a rabbit out of his hat.
 

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
Many polls have shown RP to beat Obama- in fact he is probably the only one who can because he also has support of disappointed Dems and independents.

Romney and Obama are twins in almost every major issue- just as O is pretty much W.

Second verse, same as the first.

+1

I'm just trying to prepare for another repeat of last years election. I could see this mind numbed robot RINO election thing lasting well into several generations. If I were a welfare Democrat I'd be laughing all the way to the bank.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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I have to call you out on this! Please tell me where all these magic unwanted babies are????

The fact is that there are not wards full of unwanted healthy babies. Sure there are plenty of 10 year old foster children that are pulled from meth houses, but not healthy babies. There are tens of thousands of couples who have to wait for years for a baby to be born and put up for adoption, instead of killed and dumped in the garbage. Many give up and try for foreign adoptions or not having children at all.

The idea that there are tons of unwanted babies in orphanages in this country is pure liberal bull that the pro-death crowd likes to lie about. Please don't bring that kind of outright lie here.

^truth. I know this from family experience ad research.

As far as R/O?

Likely were are getting one or the other.

Not really sure it matters anymore.
 

Garryowen

Deceased
Have you adopted an unwanted child or child born out of wedlock?

If the churches in general, and Christians in specific, had done their job the last 40 years we wouldn't have an abortion or an adoption problem.
We tried to adopt for years, and finally decided to give up. When the state wanted us to sign an agreement to do things their way, after the adoption, we said no, thanks.

At that point the wait for a young child was eight years. We have ads in the paper almost every night pleading for a baby to adopt. I don't see there being a shortage of willing couples. But, of course, it's the church's fault. We can't blame Bush for everything.

regards,

Garryowen
 

Gercarson

Veteran Member
Romney says it's fine for gays to adopt.
Obama says let the fetus die on the table if the partial birth abortion doesn't kill it.
Oh man, this is going to be sooooooooooooo hard to decide.
 

Garryowen

Deceased
I think head-to-head Obama and the DNC (and media) would clean Dr. Paul's clock unfortunately.

I'm really on the fence which is worse, four more years of O or 8 years of Romney. If I felt strongly we could get a strong fiscal conservative in 2016 I would be tempted to say just suffer 4 more years of O.

Monty
I'm not sure there would be much left after 4 more years.
 

Garryowen

Deceased
I will be voting AGAINST Zero the Hero come November. I haven't decided exactly who that will be. Doesn't really matter. Illinois is a winner take all state. So thanks to the loons in Sh!tcago and the pocket of pestilence called East St. Louis, Zero the Hero will get all 20 of the electorial votes from Illinois. Sometimes (and a lot more frequently lately) it just sucks to live here. :(

Absolutely. I hope leave in the not too distant future.
 

Boise Rocker

Conservative Rock Guru
I don't vote for Leftists. If The Stupid Party hasn't learned the lessons of 2008, then maybe it needs another four years of Obammunism. Which is to say, the Stupid Party needs to taste some real tyranny. Which is to say, if our nation survives the turmoil that will follow, maybe we'll be wise enough to stop supporting politicians like those in The Stupid Party, and go back to electing principled statesmen to lead us.

If Romney gets the nomination, I'm writing in someone I believe in, like LTC Allen West.
 

Disciple

Veteran Member
Many young people dont understand the enormity of this. When we were growing up in America "gay" was called "queer". It was considered as the most decedant of all lifestyles. It would have been a huge shame for anyone to "come out".

Now a few decades later we are having the whole homosexual movement shoved down our throat. I cannot fathom that there are Americans who say this is just a personal choice. I dont hate them. I can say unfortunately I found out what it meant to be drawn into this sin as a young boy.

Thank God so much for bringing me "out" of it.

The sad part is the new generations have not even had a chance to be taught morals and decency much much less the true holiness of Christ. They are taught this is NORMAL!

God please help them. I really believe its just a matter of time before we find out they are forcing school children to participate in gay sex.
 

momof23goats

Deceased
Kids aren't being adopted due to cost. I know of 4 families that would adopt today if it didn't cost them $50,000 per kid. The issue isn't husbands and wives don't want to adopt. It's coming up with $50K up front.

A

yes this is so true. cost way to ,much. years ago it was free, or just a small fee.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
yes this is so true. cost way to ,much. years ago it was free, or just a small fee.

It is still a reasonable cost if the birth parents deal directly with the adoptive parents. It's only when an adoption agency gets involved, that the costs go through the roof.

I have a family member who tried the normal adoption route, and realized that they didn't have $50,000 and didn't want to wait a decade for a baby. So they were going to save up $10-$15,000 for a foreign adoption. Then a friend of a friend contacted them about adopting her baby. Suddenly all the extra fees didn't exist. They helped the birth mother a bit and paid the state court fees, and got a brand new baby boy. (Which of course came with all the normal 'baby' costs of diapers, health insurance, and food.)

The mother of that child choose to give her child to a loving family when she couldn't support him on her own. But even when people are begging for babies, most choose to murder theirs. It's not the fault of the church or those evil Christians who haven't adopted, it's the fault of the men and women who believe that death is better than adoption.

Sorry Mods for getting off track here. But I really hate to see propaganda rear it's ugly head.
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Romney supports endless war, the banksters, the police state, gun control, and abortion. He supports the patriot act, NDAA, and the war on drugs. He has repeatedly vowed in debates to violate his oath of office and undermine our Constitution.

The destruction of the U.S. is now complete - he will do nothing to roll it back . . . but he'll do much to advance it.

This is why I will not support him.

I will say this categorically . . . anyone who understands his declaration to undermine the Constitution, and still votes for him, is committing treason.

. . . You don't like these words? Too bad. It's about time we called a spade a spade.


THIS ^ !!!!!
 

tiger13

Veteran Member
I don't vote for Leftists. If The Stupid Party hasn't learned the lessons of 2008, then maybe it needs another four years of Obammunism. Which is to say, the Stupid Party needs to taste some real tyranny. Which is to say, if our nation survives the turmoil that will follow, maybe we'll be wise enough to stop supporting politicians like those in The Stupid Party, and go back to electing principled statesmen to lead us.

If Romney gets the nomination, I'm writing in someone I believe in, like LTC Allen West.

The real question to ask yourself then will be " will I survive the next 4 years of an Obama administration?, and what would I have done to my kids?" If you are happy with those answers vote for him, I feel sorry for you. But don't be surprised if you get the blame for any retribution that goes around afterwards either for what HE DID....
 

Jubilation T. Cornpone

Veteran Member
WE'RE THERE

If a man who would turn CHILDREN over to homosexuals is the BEST American Conservatives can do NO THANKS. The America I remember is gone. Say hello to Mystery Babylon.

You don't have to look beyond this thread to know the America
you remember is LONG gone.
Some sins are so outrageous that God called them ABOMINATION.
Sodomy, Incest, child abuse...
Jesus had something special to say about pedophiles didn't He?
It is a lie that all sins are equal.
ALL sins except one CAN be forgiven, though.

The liberal media and public brainwashing centers have done their
jobs well. They set out to change public perception about
sexual deviancy through comedy like "Three's Company"
and convincing the public that we were being JUDGMENTAL
in criminalizing "alternative lifestyles".

Romans 1 describes perfectly the state of America.
The deluded have acquiesced to evil, and as a result,
God has given them over to a REPROBATE MIND.
They call evil good and good evil.
You see it ALL THE TIME here on TB2K.

The last chapter of Romans 1 is particularly telling:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God,
that they which commit such things are worthy of death,
not only do the same,
but have pleasure in them that do them.


When I grew up, exposing a child to sexual perversion
would have landed you behind bars, and RIGHTEOUSLY SO.
NOW, it is accepted,
soon it will be embraced,
then it will be celebrated.
When we turn that corner, I'm sure Russia and China will
become a Rod in Almighty God's Hand.

Because of ABORTION we are already an ABOMINATION
in God's sight. Untold millions of innocents murdered,
and no public outrage or outcry from America's "christians".
Maybe we've already passed the point of no return.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
The Democrat and Republican parties have been playing to a captive audience, as it were. Naturally, when you only have one rival your platform consists largely of announcing in firm, stentorian tones how wonderfully different you are from this lone rival and, failing all else, pointing out that at least you are not as bad as the sole other option. As the differences between the two parties shrank down to the microscopic, American voters have been treated to proportionally greater emphasis on the latter, and entire elections have devolved into campaigns which can be summarized best as, “Sure, I’m no prize, but at least I’m not quite as bad as that other jackass.” The problem inherent in being forced to choose between the lesser of two evils is that your choice is still pro-evil. The only real surprise is that it has taken Americans 158 years to tire of this game.

For most of my adult life the political game has been about the illusion of choice.

The media says the parties are different and, Lord knows, the media would never lie to us. The Democrats are anti-warmongering and for social safety nets, and the Republicans are for fiscal responsibility and old-fashioned interpretations of the Constitution. Then Clinton targets aid to needy families and bombs Sudan, and Bush 2.0 sends deficit spending into the stratosphere. Amnesty for illegal immigrants? A progressive Democrat platform, last given to us by Reagan. Voters grew so disgusted with Bush Jr’s policies they voted a wide swath of Democrats into office, who in turn so disgusted voters that they were replaced with Republicans, who have so disgusted voters that Democrats seem poised to take back the House. Is anyone detecting a pattern here, or is that just me?


While the many heads of the political hydra continue to spout soundbites on social issues to distract us, the Beast itself has devoted more than thirty years to pro-bankster legislative policies which have effectively siphoned the wealth and capital of the American public to elite financiers. The wages and net worth of voters have gone down, and inflation has eroded the purchasing power (i.e., value) of those dollars you manage to hang onto, and yet at the same time mega-corporations have grown more profitable and monolithic. This is not a bug, it’s a feature. Only those with a severe lack of critical thinking skills will offer any excuse that such a long-term policy stance comes from one side or the other, as both “parties” have encouraged and facilitated this economy-destroying position as they trade control of our legislative and executive branches between them like a game of Hot Potato.

And yet, the Hydra wants us to believe that the left-right paradigm is so compelling that we have no choice but to buy into it. We are not supposed to be for student vouchers and also for gay marriage. One is a conservative stance and the other liberal, and agreeing with both is not allowed. If you’re for gay marriage, then you’re a Democrat and that means you have to accept every other position on their platform. Deciding that our liberal politicians are deficit-spending our children’s future away in order to gain the political benefit of programs today that they refuse to fund sounds too much like asking for a balanced budget, and a Republican once backed balancing the budget so you have to be against that. You’ll just have to change your mind and either hate gays or be in favor of Democrats financially raping your children.

Conservatives are not allowed to support Occupy Wall Street. A conservative Occupier? Sacre bleu, c’est impossible! That’s what the Tea Party is for, innit? Ah, and now we see how neatly we are manipulated. A false dichotomy has been put into place, and the stooges in the corporate media even assure us that we have no choice but to participate in the “proper” section for our protesting. Liberals over here, conservatives over there. Ne’er the twain shall meet. Benjamin Franklin, after signing the Declaration of Independence, was quoted as saying, “We must all hang together, or we will surely hang separately.” The entire notion of political opinion being an either/or proposition, a compelling dichotomy in which we must hang all of our faith, is nothing more than a lie. It is a means to manipulate the public. Divide us, segregate us into smaller sections, and once weakened we are more easily conquered. All those who doubt this, raise your hands if you’ve voted some utter jackass into office who signed legislation you hated, all because s/he was the lesser of two evils. Congratulations. You were defeated by the Hydra.

It is striking, how those centuries-old quotes from our Founding Fathers have so much relevance in these interesting times. Truly, we have come full circle. Recognize the false dichotomy for exactly what it is, and learn to think independently. Hell, learn to think at all. The alternative is going to the gallows separately, still complaining that balanced budgets are Republican and Occupy Wall Street is an Obama conspiracy as the bank-owned noose goes around your neck.
 

Disciple

Veteran Member
Well I got an infraction for my post. I would edit the orignal but I assume its to late.

I cant find the original article there plenty of others out on the net. Looks like Romney has tried to distance himself from his comments.

Sorry about the blind link thing. I could not remember when I was setting the thread up but there was SOMETHING nagging me that I was doing something wrong.

Ahh here is a few paragraphs from the article.

(USA Today) — Mitt Romney reaffirmed his support for gay couples to adopt children.

In an interview Thursday on Fox News, the presumptive GOP nominee said it is “fine” for couples of the same sex to adopt children. He once again said he is opposed to gay marriage, which President Obama now supports.

“If two people of the same gender want to live together, want to have a loving relationship and even want to adopt a child, in my state individuals of the same sex were able to adopt children,” said Romney, a former Massachusetts governor. “In my view that’s something which people have the right to do, but to call that marriage is … a departure for the real meaning of that word.”
 
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