Misc Why Are Volcanoes All Over The Globe Suddenly Shooting Giant Clouds Of Ash Miles Into The Air?

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Planet X making its way here; disrupting the earth's crust and causing weather changes. That's what my friend is sharing with me; she is adamant about it too.....

Planet X has been "making it's way here" for decades and is centuries behind schedule to appear...

Tell you friend, what I posted are called "clues"...
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Why? Because that's what volcanoes do. For over 4.5 Billion years actually.

We live on an active, "live" planet. If you want a quiet one, Mars is waiting.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
No, it's really not.
Yes, it really is, sorry to be disagreeable. Simple physics really. I can’t explain why the sun has cycles but maybe a few on earth already do understand that part. Virtually
everything (except water) contracts as it cools. Since the earth‘s crust consists of solids, they contract as the Earth cools due to the combination of effects produced by
1. the reduced output of energy from the sun warming the Earth as it goes into this next deepening solar minimum which:
A. Sends less energy to the Earth’s surface
B. Shrinks /weakens the Heliosphere which allows more cosmic rays in from the interstellar background radiation field into the solar system and thus to the Earth’s neighborhood, which rays increase cloud coverage, reducing the impact of the sun’s input even further. (Covered in the OP).

all this loss of input of heat/energy from ol’ Sol causes everything on/ in Earth’s crust to shrink. However the magma oceans beneath the crust are not going to shrink anytime soon..., so as the crust shrinks, the plates get smaller, opening fissures at the boundaries of the plates (which themselves appear to be floating on the ocean of magma) which allows far more slippage between plates and volcanoes to thereby release gases and magma etc, as plates moving produces corresponding activity in the magma chambers near the plate boundaries. oh yeah, and allows more quakes.

ETA: AND, if in fact there is in addition to the above known effects of a grand solar minimum, there happens to be an approaching dense, magnetically strong celestial object (aka: Nibiru per the Sumarian ancient tablets, or BDanon’s incoming “pyramid”, which might account for the largest -and scariest- of all current geophysical phenomenons: the exponentially increasing speed of the Earth’s magnetic poles (yes, BOTH of ‘em...), then truly we are in for the ride of the Age, a
“surfing the Apocalypse” that only supernatural intervention would allow any human life on the planet to survive.
 
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The Mountain

Here since the beginning
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Yes, it really is, sorry to be disagreeable. Simple physics really. I can’t explain why the sun has cycles but maybe a few on earth already do understand that part. Virtually
everything (except water) contracts as it cools. Since the earth‘s crust consists of solids, they contract as the Earth cools due to the combination of effects produced by
1. the reduced output of energy from the sun warming the Earth as it goes into this next deepening solar minimum which:
A. Sends less energy to the Earth’s surface
B. Shrinks /weakens the Heliosphere which allows more cosmic rays in from the interstellar background radiation field into the solar system and thus to the Earth’s neighborhood, which rays increase cloud coverage, reducing the impact of the sun’s input even further. (Covered in the OP).

all this loss of input of heat/energy from ol’ Sol causes everything on/ in Earth’s crust to shrink. However the magma oceans beneath the crust are not going to shrink anytime soon..., so as the crust shrinks, the plates get smaller, opening fissures at the boundaries of the plates (which themselves appear to be floating on the ocean of magma) which allows far more slippage between plates and volcanoes to thereby release gases and magma etc, as plates moving produces corresponding activity in the magma chambers near the plate boundaries. oh yeah, and allows more quakes.

ETA: AND, if in fact there is in addition to the above known effects of a grand solar minimum, there happens to be an approaching dense, magnetically strong celestial object (aka: Nibiru per the Sumarian ancient tablets, or BDanon’s incoming “pyramid”, which might account for the largest -and scariest- of all current geophysical phenomenons: the exponentially increasing speed of the Earth’s magnetic poles (yes, BOTH of ‘em...), then truly we are in for the ride of the Age, a
“surfing the Apocalypse” that only supernatural intervention would allow any human life on the planet to survive.

Even water contracts when it cools, until it starts actually freezing, at which point it expands due to the nature of water ice.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
Even water contracts when it cools, until it starts actually freezing, at which point it expands due to the nature of water ice.
Point taken. I didn’t know that. the fact about the water freezing and expanding (allowing the ice to float, and that insulating the water underneath from the cold above) being important is that if the oceans didn’t skim over with floating ice, the Ice Ages would have turned the oceans to solid ice, making them unlikely to ever rebound from an ice age.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Why? Because that's what volcanoes do. For over 4.5 Billion years actually.

We live on an active, "live" planet. If you want a quiet one, Mars is waiting.
Understanding the mechanisms of the planet enhances our survival as a species. On a prepper board, I don't think this is an unwarranted discussion.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Without plate tectonics, humans would not be here in their present form. The factors and forces, planetary and stellar, which influence life on earth are massive and barely beginning to be understood. And humans are but a minor one.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
A basic geology education beats wild speculation by a mile.
Absolutely, I agree. Discussion of the effects of changes in Solar output regarding terrestrial geology is not mere speculation. Real data exists for the products of Solar output both in types and magnitude. The effects on Earth are not outlandish to consider, and correlations exist between Solar cycles and geological changes here.

Saying "that's what volcanoes do" is no answer to what the future effects on our existence may be. As I said earlier, this is not a discussion out of place on a forum dedicated to preparation.
 
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Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
All this just adds great credence to what the Book states Prophetically. Quite interesting to see all the signs of the times being played out, as Prophesied thousands of years ago. Rather mind blowing, but God is that way you know.

Things are developing quickly, as stated, faster harder, faster harder....that's what he said. Faster, harder is usually a good thing too.:cool:
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Sun cycles can affect the atmospheric weather, but the weather isn't "plate tectonics".

That is also "simple physics".

I posted an article here from around 1967 that explains how the Sun's solar activity, or lack thereof, affects the earth's core and the plates of the earth. Less solar activity means an increase in earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. The Sun's magnetic field as it diminishes in a solar minimum is what we're discussing here NOT just heat or light output.
 
My incomplete understanding is, lack of solar activity allows more cosmic rays to earth, which seeds and causes more clouds, hence more cooling. This is pretty well established. There is also some thought that the cosmic rays decrease the viscosity of some forms of magma, making eruptions more likely. There may be a similar effect on earthquakes.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
What Packy said. Grand solar minimum. Stratospheric eruptions, intense earthquakes, wacky weather..

I find it amazing that scientists are “baffled”at all the activity.

They're "baffled" because of their "blinders" -- thinking ONLY 'inside the box' of pre-conceived conclusions---anything else doesn't fit the narrative.

It's like when the media are "baffled" when an Islamist bombs something---

they just can't fathom that it's because he is of THE RELIGION OF TERRORISM.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
All due to man made global warming of course! (sarcasm)

Another reason to carry a good umbrella?

On a serious note.... I wonder if Central Texas is safe from the big one in Mexico...

I have read (not sure if true or not) that the lack or excess of sunspots has a gravitational effect that impact the tectonic plates.

who knows. There does seem to be a correlation between cooler weather, sun spots and volcanoes.
 
I have read (not sure if true or not) that the lack or excess of sunspots has a gravitational effect that impact the tectonic plates.

who knows. There does seem to be a correlation between cooler weather, sun spots and volcanoes.
I just can’t see a gravitational effect, or an impact effect on crustal plates considering the massive mass of the earth vs. the mass of solar wind and cosmic rays. I’m not too sure about the viscosity of magma thing, but at least there is a possibly viable concept in play there.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
My incomplete understanding is, lack of solar activity allows more cosmic rays to earth, which seeds and causes more clouds, hence more cooling. This is pretty well established. There is also some thought that the cosmic rays decrease the viscosity of some forms of magma, making eruptions more likely. There may be a similar effect on earthquakes.

Well I wish the COOLING would get a MOVE on!

This is the third winter in a row where actual COLD temperatures (for the South) lasted about a week-and-a-half (IN DECEMBER)--and then Christmas was nearly 70 degrees, as has been the case ever SINCE Christmas---and NOW we're getting the SPRING RAINS already (which are turning into spring FLOODS--it's too darned EARLY!) with tornadoes and April weather in January. We haven't had a decent snow in several years (used to have one good one a year--usually Jan or Feb).

I know what's going to happen (as it has every year the past several)--the trees and flowers are going to be "fooled" into thinking it's Springtime---bud out---and then HERE COMES WINTER! Goodbye blueberry crop, goodbye peaches, goodbye apples and pears....................
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
This is a good thing, letting off steam etc to avoid a larger catastrophe.

The gravity of the Sun is constant though the planets move and have slight effects, is that right physicists?
 

Martinhouse

Deceased
With regard to cosmic and solar particles and their relation to volcanoes and earthquakes.....

When the solar activity is down, more particles get through to Earth's lower atmosphere and to the planet itself. Thus more cloud nucleation. Thus the energy of many more than usual particles transferring itself to the interior of the planet. Energy equals heat which means expansion which means quakes, crevasses, sinkholes and the pressure of the magma and the gases of volcanoes. Stan Deyo spoke of the expanding planet a long time ago. Even Clif High, a little more recently, called it Expando Planet, saying this is the reason for the increase in quakes, volcanoes, etc.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Well I wish the COOLING would get a MOVE on!

This is the third winter in a row where actual COLD temperatures (for the South) lasted about a week-and-a-half (IN DECEMBER)--and then Christmas was nearly 70 degrees, as has been the case ever SINCE Christmas---and NOW we're getting the SPRING RAINS already (which are turning into spring FLOODS--it's too darned EARLY!) with tornadoes and April weather in January. We haven't had a decent snow in several years (used to have one good one a year--usually Jan or Feb).

I know what's going to happen (as it has every year the past several)--the trees and flowers are going to be "fooled" into thinking it's Springtime---bud out---and then HERE COMES WINTER! Goodbye blueberry crop, goodbye peaches, goodbye apples and pears....................
Old, *old* saying... "if you don't get winter in winter, you'll get winter in Spring"

Must be these weather patterns aren't as "unprecedented" as the meedia idiots love to claim...

Summerthyme
 

Snyper

Veteran Member
Less solar activity means an increase in earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.
That's what you said before.
It didn't convince me then either.

The scientific concensus is that there has NOT been a recent increase in volcanic activity. There are many factors at work here and it is all too easy to present data that appears to say something that it really doesn't. First, as populations increase, people end up living in many regions that were once considered remote, and if these happen to be volcanic regions then once unseen eruptions will now be reported. Plus the impact of volcanic events now ripples across the globe as seen in the 2010 eruption in Iceland. The same eruption, in 1500, would likely not have been as much trouble for the folks in England.

More importantly, nearly every inch of the Earth is now monitored by many satellites so volcanic activity occuring in even very remote areas, with little or no population, is instantly reported to volcano monitoring agencies. Coupled with the ability to communicate around the world and rapidly transmit information from very remote places, the world now knows of an eruption almost immediately.

Also, there is the natural randomness of natural events. It is unreasonable to expect that natural processes won't have some sorts of variations to them. Keep in mind that we have only been scientifically investigating most volcanic regions for a few hundred years. If there presently happens to be a cluster of eruptions, it would not necessarily signal an increase in activity.

The Global Volcanism Program has more excellent information on the topic and some charts of activity here.
 

cowboy

Veteran Member
First I am not sure how tectonic plates can float on lava and not melt.

Then there is the subduction zone that has the lap feeding into the rotation "like the weather outruns the spin of earth to head east". It would seem to me that these are driving forces that spin the planet much like the flow of amps work to turn an electric motor.

Expanding/contraction would make more sense to me in feeding the subduction zone verses trying to push mass under a shear edge that has all the wrong cutting edges.
 

COelf

Contributing Member
We had a very strange event happen tonight about 3 hours ago. We live in the middle of an "extinct" volcano. That's right! Right in the middle of one crater. We have many hot springs here and the swimming pool uses geothermal heat for the pool and hot tub. It was suddenly closed yesterday due to water issues and has yet to open today. The only scheduled time for them to close is Christmas Day. I have been smelling ash and figured it was due to the neighbor's wood stove or the ash from all the volcanoes going off to the west of here. Tonight I was in the kitchen and the floor moved. I thougth it was from the duct work from the forced air furnace as it turned off. About three minutes later the floor burped and dishes rattled. I ran into the living room and asked DH to turn to the local stations to see if we had an earthquake. We didn't. I looked on the USGS site and did not find one today but the town south of us (about 20 miles away) has had earthquakes (2.3 to 1.9) every day in December. I think I'd better keep a closer eye on these.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
We had a very strange event happen tonight about 3 hours ago. We live in the middle of an "extinct" volcano. That's right! Right in the middle of one crater. We have many hot springs here and the swimming pool uses geothermal heat for the pool and hot tub. It was suddenly closed yesterday due to water issues and has yet to open today. The only scheduled time for them to close is Christmas Day. I have been smelling ash and figured it was due to the neighbor's wood stove or the ash from all the volcanoes going off to the west of here. Tonight I was in the kitchen and the floor moved. I thougth it was from the duct work from the forced air furnace as it turned off. About three minutes later the floor burped and dishes rattled. I ran into the living room and asked DH to turn to the local stations to see if we had an earthquake. We didn't. I looked on the USGS site and did not find one today but the town south of us (about 20 miles away) has had earthquakes (2.3 to 1.9) every day in December. I think I'd better keep a closer eye on these.

wow! Middle of an “extinct” volcanic crater? I can’t imagine. with an eye to the events on the horizon of the ring of fire, I Would be selling such real estate while I could find a market....
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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wow! Middle of an “extinct” volcanic crater? I can’t imagine. with an eye to the events on the horizon of the ring of fire, I Would be selling such real estate while I could find a market....
Yeah... I'd question the "extinct" part... if there are hot springs, I think by definition it's not "extinct"...

Dormant... absolutely. But dormant isn't dead...

Summerthyme
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
Every time there is a major solar minima the weather go wonkers the temps cools down and earth quake and volcanic activity picks up and the volcanic part we know this from geologic data and the ash from each volcano has it's own unique signature and big eruptions the ash can be found around the world in the soil and is dateable as to when it happened.

Good to know. I thought this was the case, but you articulated it much better than I could have.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
We had a very strange event happen tonight about 3 hours ago. We live in the middle of an "extinct" volcano. That's right! Right in the middle of one crater. We have many hot springs here and the swimming pool uses geothermal heat for the pool and hot tub. It was suddenly closed yesterday due to water issues and has yet to open today. The only scheduled time for them to close is Christmas Day. I have been smelling ash and figured it was due to the neighbor's wood stove or the ash from all the volcanoes going off to the west of here. Tonight I was in the kitchen and the floor moved. I thougth it was from the duct work from the forced air furnace as it turned off. About three minutes later the floor burped and dishes rattled. I ran into the living room and asked DH to turn to the local stations to see if we had an earthquake. We didn't. I looked on the USGS site and did not find one today but the town south of us (about 20 miles away) has had earthquakes (2.3 to 1.9) every day in December. I think I'd better keep a closer eye on these.

I think you may want to start house shopping for a new place that's not in the middle of an "extinct" volcanic crater!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Yeah... I'd question the "extinct" part... if there are hot springs, I think by definition it's not "extinct"...

Dormant... absolutely. But dormant isn't dead...

Summerthyme

This^^^ that ain't no extinct volcano! There's an "extinct" volcano in Arkansas that's surrounded by hot springs, etc. that's not extinct in my book!
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
First I am not sure how tectonic plates can float on lava and not melt..

Same way that ice floats on a lake and doesn’t melt until the spring sun higher in the sky starts to affect the temps of the ice and eventually melts it.
 

danielboon

TB Fanatic
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And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
 

raven

TB Fanatic
its what happens when the Fed prints 4 trillion out of thin air.
the air gets thinner and the mountains get thicker
 
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