…… Where there is no veterinarian

Hfcomms

EN66iq
We prep for ourselves but we have to prep for our pets as well. We are moving into a time where medical care is getting increasingly difficult to obtain and in some ways is going into a state of collapse and you have to be your own doctor. Of course I have meds and supplies put away for taking care of myself and have various books and apps to assist in that area but what about our animals or specifically our dogs/cats?

Some things of course transfer over during an emergency i.e. airway, circulation, breathing and good old common sense plays a big part and if you know how to do basic wound care for yourself than that crosses over into your animals as well. What brought this up is I was updating some of my apps/publications for medical and noticed I didn't have anything for veterinary type scenarios.

I have run into an issue with my local vet that always had 24/7 emergency care but they quit doing that and direct emergencies to the nearest animal hospital which is almost three hours away. Several months ago my Mal tore a dew claw half off which needed minor surgery to remove the claw as it was almost impossible to stop the bleeding by wrapping and packing it as there is a small artery feeding the claw. I'm not talking about the nail being torn but the dew claw itself being partially severed.

What happens when TSHTF and we are totally on our own? There are many different books and apps for self treatment of medical situations but not a lot out there for self care for your dogs/cats, etc.

I did find this one and downloaded it;


I have a lot of survival and prep related things as apps on my tablet where they are right at hand but nothing for the dogs. Anyone have resources or information on doctoring your dog or other animals when there is no medical care of them?
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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If you have a way to numb it (or sedate the animal-or both!) you can fix bad bleeders from a single (or small number) source by cauterizing it. I've done it several times, on multiple species. My first was a 2 year old cow who had become partially paralyzed after calving. She crawled around in our machine shed for 3 weeks (constantly crawling off the bedded pack bed we had made), and by the time she was able to stand, she had worn a hole in a front knee to the bone. It eroded through a pencil lead sized artery, and nothing we could do stopped the bleeding. After several days, losing a couple quarts of blood a day, I knew we were going to lose her if I didn't get it stopped. I sedated her, heated a nail with a propane torch, and cauterized the bleeder. Then I packed it with a healing cream I invented on the spot, and wrapped it well. We tended it for a couple of weeks, and it healed beautifully. By the end of summer (she had calved in February, which was a big part of the problem... we couldn't put her outside on grass in below ZERO temps), she didn't even have a scar left.

We sold her in our dispersal as an 11 year old, having just had her 10th calf!

5% lidocaine salve or cream can provide enough surface analgesia to do this in a real pinch.

Summerthyme
 

Jackpine Savage

Veteran Member
Cauterizing can be used to stop bleeding.

I've done it a couple times on livestock. My Sister had llamas. Two of the males got into a tussle and one ended up with a torn ear. A blood vessel was shooting a stream of blood a couple feet. I tried pressure and a bandage but nothing would stay put. I ended up using a dehorning iron on it. By the time I got done I could have been an extra in a horror movie, ha.

Another time we had a Jersey cow with horns that we had to band because she was a terror with those horns. The horn came off early and like the llama had blood shooting in the air. The dehorning iron solved that problem too.

Edit: I see Summerthyme beat me to it. I'm slow at typing, ha.
 
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Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
I accept that there's not a lot I can do for my kitty. This is why she lives indoors and when I look for trip hazards for me, I'm also mindful of anything that might injure her. It's also why I feed her as well as I can, even though the food is getting pretty expensive. My main health strategy for her is prevention.

If everything totally falls apart, I'll probably have to barter any care with a vet or a farmer.

I'm mostly concerned about her later in life and end of life care. That's usually when I have the most health problems with an indoor kitty.
 

Pebbles

Veteran Member
Thanks so much for the No Vet Doctor book. Very informative. After you have had dogs and horses and cattle, you learn to do what the vets do for the most part. Particularly when you are in a remote area with no phone service and no vet. But it never fails, all hell breaks loose , animal health wise, at the least opportune time and you have to figure it out INCLUDING, how to put a suffering animal to sleep. This book is very helpful!!
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
It's a good idea to have styptic powder on hand too. We've used it on bleeding dog nails and I see they also say it can be used for other minor bleeding. Basically a hemostatic agent. It's on sale now, ha.

https://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Care-Kwik-Styptic-Powder/dp/B0002H3RBU?th=1

I’ve got that stuff too….got it from Cal-vet a number of years ago. I even take it with me to work. The Mal will often get cuts on her foot pads going after the ball…..just take some gauze with the powder and wrap it for twenty minutes or so and I’ve bought a bunch of vet wrap off Amazon and that helps keep things in place on an active dog.
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
It's a good idea to have styptic powder on hand too. We've used it on bleeding dog nails and I see they also say it can be used for other minor bleeding. Basically a hemostatic agent. It's on sale now, ha.

https://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Care-Kwik-Styptic-Powder/dp/B0002H3RBU?th=1
Another good option is cornstarch. Have used that on both the dogs and chickens to stop bleeding. I also keep a number of skin staplers fr the animals.

And thank you for the book!!
 

briches

Veteran Member

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Would it be appropriate to merge this thread with the Korean Blizzard Cuisine thread ?


I mean…..make lemonade, right ?


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