RACE When blacks took over the city of Johannesburg, South Africa

MinnesotaSmith

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https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/30209571

'A fragment from a blog of a Russian man who went on a business trip to South Africa, translated for your convenience.'

http://tannen.livejournal.com/66587.html

"Me and my friend had to spend roughly 10 hours in Johannesburg. We asked Mikhail and he convinced some kamikaze driver to take us on a tour through the city center. We, the two retards, thought that they were exaggerating about the danger just to frighten us. We thought that we'd get to the center, take a long good stroll through it and show everyone that Russians aren't afraid of anything.

We ended up not even coming close to doing any of these things.

Reason?

We nearly shat ourselves.

The descent to Johannesburg from the plateau made the city look great. Beautiful, big, modern. Some skyscrapers here and there, some nice Victorian-style buildings. Green lawns, blue sky.
Upon actually entering the city, the picture changed drastically.
It looked completely abandoned.
There was no electricity.
Piles of trash just lying in the streets.
Burst sewer pipes flooding several spots.
The only thing clear of debris was the main road, the only functional electrical devices were the traffic lights.
And this was the city center, the relatively safe part of the city.

Prior to riding into the city, the driver appointed by Mikhail read us a short "do's and don'ts" lecture. He seemed very tense, gulping often and suspiciously looking around as he spoke:

"If you c*nts want to survive this, do exactly as I say.
After we enter the city, NO LOUD NOISES, do not ATTRACT ANY ATTENTION!
NO F*CKING IPHONES OR CAMERAS flashing through the car windows!
DO NOT MAKE EYE CONTACT with ghouls! (that's what he called ******s)
And no matter what happens, DO NOT OPEN THE WINDOWS!
Because suddenly a lamp post can fall and block the way, and the ghouls will f*cking siege us.
And remember that I have kids, so at least follow these rules for my sake..."

We spent two hours riding around the city center.
It was quiet enough in the bus to hear a pin drop.
To understand what happened to the city, a small historical flashback is needed.

After the apartheid was over, a two-million swarm of Africans flooded the city, opening the era of African Reqonquista. They were not natives, they just left their usual places in the desert and went wherever life was better. Mikhail, the guy who got us the driver, lived in Johannesburg at that time and told us the following:

In the middle of an ordinary workday, something happened.
The office center's doors opened and an unorganized crowd of several thousand blacks rushed in, carrying their belongings in huge bags. They asked us not to pay any attention to them and continue working, while they were spreading around the building and occupying every bit of territory that was available. Armchairs, stools, sofas, restrooms and hallways - they were everywhere, happily chatting and wasting no time in taking whatever shiny things the building's original denizens had on them.
The office became filled with commotion. Chickens were butchered and gutted in the hallways, tables in audience rooms turned into cooking tables, restrooms became bathhouses.
The polite question "What's going on?" was answered with "This is our home now".
The subsequent, less polite question "What the f*ck?!" met a reply "It will be better for everyone".

Mikhail called the cops.
Cops didn't come.
They apologized and explained that exactly the same thing is happening across the entire city.
Then everyone who could started to quietly flee the city, headed towards the suburbs and Cape Town, while erecting barriers to block the paths - hedges, moats, electrified fences. The last district of Johannesburg where you can meet a white man nowadays is the Pretoria suburb.

After a massive exodus, owners of the buildings started thinking of what to do.

Bingo! They decided that if they switch off the electricity, water and sewer access to the buildings, the ghouls will leave them and return to the savannah.

So, they switched them off.
Ghouls didn't even notice.

Of course, in the savannah they had neither of these modern conveniences. "Where do they shit, then?" I asked Mikhail.
Mikhail replied that the office owners were also puzzled by this - and completely shocked after they found out.

You see, after invading the buildings, none of the ghouls could figure out what elevator shafts were for. Once they ripped out the elevator doors, they spent a few days scratching heads and spitting into the darkness, until it finally occured to them.

"Bless the white man's genius", thought the ghouls, and the shafts became both toilets and garbage dumps ever since. According to Mikhail, it takes roughly ten years for an average ghoul horde to shit up an office building to the point of complete unliveability. After that, like in good old prehistoric times, the horde migrates, occupying another building.

We rode on through Johannesburg's streets, glued to the car windows, devouring the scenery with our eyes. Fashionable modern houses with boarded-up windows passed us by. When we came across a rare open window, we could see fires burning inside, with ghouls lying or walking around them.

(Once again) According to Mikhail, a new, albeit informal service appeared in Johannesburg. Bunches of tough guys go around offering to take the buildings back from ghouls. It happens like this: in the middle of the night several trucks drive up to the building, and hundred or two of armed thugs goes inside. Quickly, they grab the sleeping ghouls and simply start throwing them out of the building, trying not to wake the whole horde up. Before the horde completely comes to its senses and starts expressing its displeasure, the thugs weld shut all doors and windows on the first floor and put up an electrified fence. After the building is cleaned and refurbished, it turns back into an office.

That's how the remnants of Johannesburg's white population live and work. In the evening and during the night they keep safe behind armored doors and private guards. In the morning they get into their cars and quickly, without stopping, ride outside their fortresses to work. After a short ride through more-or-less safe streets, they dive into one of the heavily guarded foxholes that leads to the underground parking garages. And that concludes their arrival to the workplace.
Another funny thing I noticed - if two "live" buildings are nearby, they are often connected by an aerial passage at the 10th or 11th floor. So office workers can even visit each other if they want to. The only trick to it is not to look down. Down there is ghoul territory."
 

MinnesotaSmith

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Related, also from that thread...

"Blacks are what they are; expecting them to live up to white standards isn't going to change their essential natures. Wherever they amass in large enough numbers, they create a little version of Africa, with the poverty, disease, and danger of that continent. They can't do otherwise.

Read this empathetic but hardline opinion on the matter from a great and gentle man who knew what he was talking about."


"I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that all White men who have lived here like I have must learn and know: that these individuals are a sub-race. They have neither the mental or emotional abilities to equate or share equally with White men in any functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try to bring unto them the advantages which our civilization must offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status: White the superior, and they the inferior. For whenever a White man seeks to live among them as their equals, they will destroy and devour him, and they will destroy all his work. And so for any existing relationship or any benefit to this people, let White men, from anywhere in the world, who would come to help Africa, remember that you must maintain this status: you the master and they the inferior, like children whom you would help or teach. Never fraternize with them as equals. Never accept them as your social equals or they will devour you. They will destroy you."

--Dr. Albert Schweitzer, winner of the Nobel Prize for humanitarian work in Africa

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Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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The comments will write themselves on this nifty story.

It is a first hand report of exactly what the democrat/commie/marxists desire for America.

Funny thing is, it will affect their pinko neighborhoods firstest and worstest.


Good find MS.
 

Seer

Veteran Member
The comments will write themselves on this nifty story.

It is a first hand report of exactly what the democrat/commie/marxists desire for America.

Funny thing is, it will affect their pinko neighborhoods firstest and worstest.


Good find MS.

Yes, but the elites on the left have stolen enough money that they won't be the ones suffering, just their useful idiot followers.
 
This reads exactly like a sci-fi story, ghouls and all. They should have started removing the invaders as soon as that shit started, but they were too polite.
 

PghPanther

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Some questions and comments...……...that I welcome feedback on and some further help in understanding all this.…..

1) The article almost seems like science fiction...…….it is really that strange?...….and if it is would not this be one of the biggest news story to be covered world wide? Literally the collapse of a civilization? Is our news media that controlled by social Marxist forces to such an extreme that they don't dare report of this? The fact that there is nothing on the news about this and you must go to the Internet to find out about this is like makes me feel like I'm reading about bigfoot sightings and why doesn't the media report it to?

2) The quote attributed to Albert Schweitzer has been claimed to be either false or embellished...…...I don't know.

3) When Blacks were discovered by other civilization in Africa, they lived in the stone age...…….they build mud/dung straw huts...…...took urine showers from cattle......had no written language...…the only tools and weapons they made were from sticks and stones.....now hold that thought for a minute.

4) When Blacks were slaves in the US it was Lincoln who eventually freed them right?...………..But a study on Lincoln says they should be freed and he wanted to returned them to Africa because they were incapable of assimilating with the White man's culture/civilization or something like that...…..is this correct?

5) So this idea of freed slaves being returned to their native lands was on the table and then Lincoln was shot...……..did his death then change that directive?

6) and if so...……..who was responsible for saying okay we will free them but they are not going to be returned to Africa?

7) Are these accurate questions or do I have something wrong in my understanding of this?

For the life of me I just don't get that...……….who in their right mind thought that a stone age people from Africa freed from slavery and to remain in the US would be good thing for civilization?
 

MinnesotaSmith

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PghPanther...

1) How much do nonconservative Americans talk about Detroit, and what happened there?

Professional photographic record of that: http://www.marchandmeffre.com/detroit

2) Not sure, but I did find some related stuff that makes it at least plausibly his words.

4, 5, 6) No. The Emancipation Proclamation (arguably illegal and thus of no force) only referred to slaves in Confederate-held territory, where the U.S. gov't had no control, so technically freed NO slaves immediately. The 13th Amendment over two years later did that. Lincoln did want them sent home, but JW Booth stopped that. I believe (could be wrong) that the Radical Republicans in Congress stopped repatriation of blacks, to our eternal misfortune.

7) No one smart who thought it through.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
It is really perplexing how otherwise intelligent people simply are unable to recognize the glaring cultural, historical, physical, moral, social & intellectual differences between negros and Caucasians. And the differences are consistent throughout all of the globe and throughout all of history. By ignoring these differences and pretending that their cause is something (socioeconomic, racism, slave mentality, ect) external will only exacerbate the incompatibility. Are we 2 different species?

Some questions and comments...……...that I welcome feedback on and some further help in understanding all this.…..

1) The article almost seems like science fiction...…….it is really that strange?...….and if it is would not this be one of the biggest news story to be covered world wide? Literally the collapse of a civilization? Is our news media that controlled by social Marxist forces to such an extreme that they don't dare report of this? The fact that there is nothing on the news about this and you must go to the Internet to find out about this is like makes me feel like I'm reading about bigfoot sightings and why doesn't the media report it to?

2) The quote attributed to Albert Schweitzer has been claimed to be either false or embellished...…...I don't know.

3) When Blacks were discovered by other civilization in Africa, they lived in the stone age...…….they build mud/dung straw huts...…...took urine showers from cattle......had no written language...…the only tools and weapons they made were from sticks and stones.....now hold that thought for a minute.

4) When Blacks were slaves in the US it was Lincoln who eventually freed them right?...………..But a study on Lincoln says they should be freed and he wanted to returned them to Africa because they were incapable of assimilating with the White man's culture/civilization or something like that...…..is this correct?

5) So this idea of freed slaves being returned to their native lands was on the table and then Lincoln was shot...……..did his death then change that directive?

6) and if so...……..who was responsible for saying okay we will free them but they are not going to be returned to Africa?

7) Are these accurate questions or do I have something wrong in my understanding of this?

For the life of me I just don't get that...……….who in their right mind thought that a stone age people from Africa freed from slavery and to remain in the US would be good thing for civilization?

Excellent, as always, questions. There was a movement known as the American Colonization Society which endeavored to return the negros to Africa and was supported by American presidents Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe, and James Madison. I believe it would be intellectually eye-opening to see how and why that failed.
 

CaryC

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1) How much do nonconservative Americans talk about Detroit, and what happened there?

Professional photographic record of that: http://www.marchandmeffre.com/detroit

2) Not sure, but I did find some related stuff that makes it at least plausibly his words.

4, 5, 6) No. The Emancipation Proclamation (arguably illegal and thus of no force) only referred to slaves in Confederate-held territory, where the U.S. gov't had no control, so technically freed NO slaves immediately. The 13th Amendment over two years later did that. Lincoln did want them sent home, but JW Booth stopped that. I believe (could be wrong) that the Radical Republicans in Congress stopped repatriation of blacks, to our eternal misfortune.

7) No one smart who thought it through.

In addition to this I might add:

No one MSM, or internet, is reporting in any meaningful measure, about the killing, and land confiscation in S. Africa. Trump tweeted, and that was the end of it. As compared to Detroit.

Asking the question, "Why" can have a variety of answers. Not only would coverage be considered racist, as would covering the murders in Chicongo. They also don't have the time since every waking, and sleeping moment, they work in shifts, is about Russian Collusion.

Could the reason for the failure of repatriation be, the lack of desire to separate families, from their children.

O and FYI MS is spot on about the Emancipation Proclamation. The northern states got to keep theirs, including those belonging to Gen. Grant.
 

MinnesotaSmith

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P.S....

People need something like a 120 IQ to be a minimally-competent scientist, and 130 to be a low-grade engineer. (The big names in science we all learned about from pre-1950 like Newton, Einstein, Fermi, Mendel, Darwin, Tycho, Galileo, Heisenberg, etc., were likely nearly all 160+.) So, a Western country with ever-decreasing use for unskilled labor needs blacks again why?
 
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PghPanther

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Hydro engineering, sewage treatment plant designs, etc require the best engineering has...you are in the area of 140 plus IQ to be able to manage that aspect of infrastructure...….…...look at the Black distribution IQ chart again and connect the dots.

Is it any surprise that that majority Black run countries never have clean water and sewage?
 

dstraito

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It must be the DNA, look at any major urban area in the US and you will find a ghetto. Left to their own devices, that seems to be the end result. I saw it happen in east Fort Worth. As they moved into an area it became trashed out and people that wanted a better life that could moved out, allowing even more to move in.
 

MinnesotaSmith

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Exactly...

Hydro engineering, sewage treatment plant designs, etc require the best engineering has...you are in the area of 140 plus IQ to be able to manage that aspect of infrastructure...….…...look at the Black distribution IQ chart again and connect the dots.

Is it any surprise that that majority Black run countries never have clean water and sewage?

Previously posted:

"Aside from gunpowder and a couple of other things, here's what whites (specifically, white males) have come up with: (from http://www.fredoneverything.net/WhiteMales.shtml)

"Euclidean geometry. Parabolic geometry. Hyperbolic geometry. Projective geometry. Differential geometry. Algebra. Limits, continuity, differentiation, integration. Physical chemistry. Organic chemistry. Biochemistry. Classical mechanics. The indeterminacy principle. The wave equation. The Parthenon. The Anabasis. Air conditioning. Number theory. Romanesque architecture. Gothic architecture. Information theory. Entropy. Enthalpy. Every symphony ever written. Pierre Auguste Renoir. The twelve-tone scale. The mathematics behind it, twelfth root of two and all that. S-p hybrid bonding orbitals. The Bohr-Sommerfeld atom. The purine-pyrimidine structure of the DNA ladder. Single-sideband radio. All other radio. Dentistry. The internal-combustion engine. Turbojets. Turbofans. Doppler beam-sharpening. Penicillin. Airplanes. Surgery. The mammogram. The Pill. The condom. Polio vaccine. The integrated circuit. The computer. Football. Computational fluid dynamics. Tensors. The Constitution. Euripides, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Aeschylus, Homer, Hesiod. Glass. Rubber. Nylon. Roads. Buildings. Elvis. Acetylcholinesterase inhibitors. (OK, that's nerve gas, and maybe we didn't really need it.) Silicone. The automobile. Really weird stuff, like clathrates, Buckyballs, and rotaxanes. The Bible. Bug spray. Diffie-Hellman, public-key cryptography, and RSA."

Without whites, the world would barely have invented mortar to put between sun-dried bricks.
 

MinnesotaSmith

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Related...

It must be the DNA, look at any major urban area in the US and you will find a ghetto. Left to their own devices, that seems to be the end result. I saw it happen in east Fort Worth. As they moved into an area it became trashed out and people that wanted a better life that could moved out, allowing even more to move in.

In which countries do people still defecate outside (e.g., in the street)?

http://riceinstitute.org/blog/new-maps-which-country-has-the-most-open-defecation-in-the-world/

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dstraito

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The term “white flight” is usually used to refer to a migration phenomenon in the post-World War II era. As people of color moved into predominantly white neighborhoods in cities from which they had previously been excluded, many white residents of those neighborhoods picked up and left. They resettled in newly built, overwhelmingly white suburbs.

Nowadays, those suburbs aren’t looking as white as they used to. And as suburbs are getting more diverse, the pattern of white flight is repeating itself.

That’s the argument of an article, “The persistence of white flight in middle-class suburbia,” published in the journal Social Science Research last month, by Samuel Kye, who is pursuing his Ph.D. in sociology at Indiana University.In an analysis of the 150 largest metro areas in the U.S., Kye found 3,252 suburban Census tracts that had seen white flight in recent years. Seven of them are middle-class suburban neighborhoods in Hennepin County.

A racial phenomenon
Millions of African Americans moved from the American south to cities in the Northeast, Midwest and West, like Chicago, New York, Detroit, and Minneapolis during the Great Migration between about 1915 and 1970.

In northern cities, people of color were met with redlining, segregated schools and other discrimination designed to keep communities from integrating. During the Civil Rights era, as courts forced school integration and shot down other discriminatory practices, many whites moved out of the city.

Over the decades, one of the central debates surrounding white flight in the U.S. is whether it’s had more to do with economics than race.

Historically, people of color have lived in economically disadvantaged areas, so some have argued that white people were leaving for opportunity elsewhere rather than for reasons motivated by race.

“There have been some who have argued that white flight isn’t actually a response rooted in racial prejudice or attitudes, but instead a natural response to a decline in a neighborhood’s median household income or declines in property values that had tended to occur in the past when you had an influx of non-white residents,” Kye said.

That’s what makes studying white flight in middle-class suburban areas, which are more economically stable, interesting.

“It used to be that white flight was predominantly thought of as an urban to suburban phenomenon: chocolate cities, vanilla suburbs,” Kye said, but his research suggests it’s happening in middle-class suburbs, as white people move to other suburbs or exurbs as their neighborhoods become more racially diverse.

Studies of neighborhood desirability show that whereas non-white people say their ideal neighborhood is integrated, white people, on average, say predominantly white neighborhoods are more desirable, Kye said.

In his research, Kye accounted for factors like housing stock and availability, education, and other socioeconomic factors that could affect people’s movement in and out of communities. He wanted to isolate movement that could be considered a response to changes in neighborhoods’ racial composition.

Kye considered a tract to have seen white flight if, over the course of the 2000-2010 decade, a quarter of its white residents moved out (it had to have had a significant white population to begin with). The total loss of whites also had to be greater than 100 individuals. That was the threshold, Kye said, but the average neighborhood flagged lost more.

More than two-thirds of the 3,252 tracts that met these criteria were poorer neighborhoods, which could mean economics were a big driver in people’s moves. But many others were not, suggesting race may have played a part in motivating whites to move.

Finding white flight
Kye’s study explored national trends. It didn’t look at individual neighborhoods as case studies. But he ran the numbers on Minnesota for MinnPost, and found seven middle-class Census tracts in Hennepin County — four in Brooklyn Park, two nearby in Brooklyn Center and one in Edina, north of I-494 at Highway 100, not far from Southdale Center.



https://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2018/03/white-flight-didn-t-disappear-it-just-moved
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
I tried to find an article I read a few years back but couldn't find it. Basically it was about blacks moving away from the ghetto because they wanted a better life for their family. They worked to get an education to better themselves and they saved and they bought a house in the suburbs. Life was much better until people from their old neighborhood, the people they tried to move away from figured out they could combine households and buy a house in the same neighborhood.

The only problem was, these newcomers didn't work for it. They didn't appreciate it. They didn't have the same values and they left trash everywhere. The kids would walk down the middle of the street at all hours of the day and flip you off if you were in a car and wanted to get by.

The natural result of the gangs moving in was the property values plummeted. The people that moved to get away from that environment put all their money into the new place and now could only sell it at a fraction of its value.

All this to say it is a very real phenomena which if you talk about it these days you are branded racist which actually means nothing these days. Now the label racist means you disagree with a liberal.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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In addition to this I might add:

No one MSM, or internet, is reporting in any meaningful measure, about the killing, and land confiscation in S. Africa. Trump tweeted, and that was the end of it. As compared to Detroit.

Asking the question, "Why" can have a variety of answers. Not only would coverage be considered racist, as would covering the murders in Chicongo. They also don't have the time since every waking, and sleeping moment, they work in shifts, is about Russian Collusion.

Could the reason for the failure of repatriation be, the lack of desire to separate families, from their children.

O and FYI MS is spot on about the Emancipation Proclamation. The northern states got to keep theirs, including those belonging to Gen. Grant.

For the record, Grant only legally owned one slave in his life, whom he freed after one year. the rest belonged to his wife and his wife's family. His father-in-law, cognizant of grant's stand on slavery, was careful to give the slaves to his daughter.
http://www.thiscruelwar.com/did-general-grant-really-own-slaves/
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I lived in Jo'burg for years during the '80s. It was a gorgeous city and it was safe. You could walk through downtown at any hour with very little chance of experiencing any crime. It was also clean and residents all enjoyed the first-world conveniences of any modern, European or US city. For much of my time there I lived in the Hillbrow district. This was the city's nightclub and entertainment neighborhood. There were clubs and a wide assortment of pubs, cafes, ethnic (ethnic in this case meaning Greek, Israeli, Eastern European, etc. NOT African) food restaurants and entertainment venues. Interestingly, there was a large number of book stores. There were scores of chic, modern apartment buildings scattered amongst the office towers and older residential buildings. It was the closet thing Johannesburg had to a bohemian enclave, but - and this is important - it was a White bohemian enclave. The neighborhood was considered to be "edgy" but what passed for crime there would barely raise an eyebrow in any larger American city. I recall that one of the big scandals of the era was the discovery of a prostitution ring operating out of one of the neighborhood's seedier hotels. Front page news. Riiiiight. Big whoop...

The South African liberals and progressives tried so hard to be like their progressive American and European cousins that they were often caricature-like in their efforts to distance themselves from their South African roots and the existing Nationalist government of the day. Eventually, through international pressure and the constant whining of the Progs, the Nationalists gave away the keys to the kingdom and the cesspool of contemporary South Africa and Johannesburg is the result.

Grand, innit?

Best regards
Doc
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
I wondered if this man was exaggerating about downtown Jo'burg and went to Google Earth and looked at the downtown CBD (checked out the first Bus Stop) and "drove" down one of the main streets (Lillian Ngoyi St) - it wasn't bad but very grubby.

Not one white face there - and 2 Kentucky Fried Chicken outlets within two blocks. There was one building which obviously had been burned inside and the windows blown out.....nothing done to repair it, so nobody living there above the retail outlet.

The Train station looked almost deserted, which seems to say that there is not a lot of travel around the city or out of it, once the people get to the City.

One thing I did notice - the absence of cranes and any new construction. People lived in the buildings with windows out, because their laundry was hanging across the windows to dry, but they were what nobody here would consider anything but squatting. There were high walls and wrought iron fences and closed gates around many place, especially two playgrounds with one having wire along the top of the fencing and blankets/bedding lying all over the park next to the playground, but no people there.

And FOR SALE signs everywhere.....and not one white face on all the streets I went down. Just spotted a white man outside a .gov building on Main St, and huge piles of garbage in bags which had overflowed the one dumpster all along the block and some very artistic graffit covering whole sides of buildings. Just spotted one crane on a one story building doing something. So many building had huge handmade signs showing what they were selling, and compared to N. America, very few vehicles which were mainly newer ones. Maybe people take buses there as the streets are very narrow.

Who needs to take a trip when you can "drive" with google.....
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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People need something like a 120 IQ to be a minimally-competent scientist, and 130 to be a low-grade engineer. (The big names in science we all learned about from pre-1950 like Newton, Einstein, Fermi, Mendel, Darwin, Tycho, Galileo, Heisenberg, etc., were likely nearly all 160+.) So, a Western country with ever-decreasing use for unskilled labor needs blacks again why?

What was brought home sharply to us in our recent medical adventure was how utterly clueless ALMOST ALL the younger nurses are. I said to hubby, "is it just me, or is the average IQ in this country plummeting? " He said, "it's not you"

I recently attended a bridal shower for a lovely, hard working young woman who just graduated with her RN degree. I got a nice handwritten thankyou note a few days later... written at about a third grade level. Basic spelling, punctuation and grammar mistakes in nearly every sentence.

What is even more frightening is that I have FAR more knowledge of anatomy and basic medicine. I've helped them with sick animals several times, and while I truly appreciate her willingness to put the time and effort required into trying to save a cow or calf, she can't even get an IV into the jugular of a cow... and compared to human veins, thats a garden hose compared to a pencil lead.

Even scarier... she could go back to school for 2 more years and become a nurse practitioner... legally able to practice on her own!

It also occurred to me that whenever the Communists take over a country, they wipe out the educated, intelligent and the free thinkers... which describes pretty much our whole family.

And then there is our little bronze-haired, gray eyed 15 month old grandaughter. Not only is she starting to read (sight reading words), she's absolutely inherited her daddy's engineer brain. We watched in fascination as she determinedly tried to get through the baby gate between the great room and kitchen. (Its for the dogs mostly, but comes in handy to keep toddlers away from the cellar stairs. She figured out how to pull up the lock and lift the latch... which requires two hands and more coordination than most toddlers can muster. But the gate had gotten pushed a little cockeyed, and the latch had to be lifted straight up for it to open. Oh, she worked at it! Most babies I've known would have either given up or been screaming in frustration. Not this one! She worked and worked for almost 15 minutes.. she'd lift the latch and pull on the gate. It wouldnt open, and she'd start examining every part of it, checking the various connections and joints. Apparently satisfied that everything looked right, she'd try again. She finally managed to get the latch lifted far enough with one hand while pulling on the gate with the other... and stepped through it with a huge grin of triumph.

Her mother's comment was, "God help me, I've got two mad scientists on my hands!"

But she'll have to be homeschooled, because schools these days seem to teach to the level of the LEAST able in the class, and with the "mainstreaming" of too many for whom even basic literacy is patently unobtainable, even our best and brightest are being dumbed down at an alarming rate.

Summerthyme
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
And then there is our little bronze-haired, gray eyed 15 month old grandaughter. Not only is she starting to read (sight reading words), she's absolutely inherited her daddy's engineer brain. We watched in fascination as she determinedly tried to get through the baby gate between the great room and kitchen. (Its for the dogs mostly, but comes in handy to keep toddlers away from the cellar stairs. She figured out how to pull up the lock and lift the latch... which requires two hands and more coordination than most toddlers can muster. But the gate had gotten pushed a little cockeyed, and the latch had to be lifted straight up for it to open. Oh, she worked at it! Most babies I've known would have either given up or been screaming in frustration. Not this one! She worked and worked for almost 15 minutes.. she'd lift the latch and pull on the gate. It wouldnt open, and she'd start examining every part of it, checking the various connections and joints. Apparently satisfied that everything looked right, she'd try again. She finally managed to get the latch lifted far enough with one hand while pulling on the gate with the other... and stepped through it with a huge grin of triumph.

Her mother's comment was, "God help me, I've got two mad scientists on my hands!"

My sister was terrified when her youngest started showing that behavior, because that's what I was like as a kid. I told her the good side is by the time he's a teen he'll be able to fix anything in the house.
 

Dozdoats

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Knew someone on the gun skool circuit some years back who took a gig to train some folks in South Africa. Out in the countryside this merry band of white guys got blockaded by some locals trying to carjack/rob them. A shootout ensued.

When the smoke cleared, the visitors discovered they had offed a couple of cops among their assailants. The visitors left the country quite promptly ...
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
For the record, Grant only legally owned one slave in his life, whom he freed after one year. the rest belonged to his wife and his wife's family. His father-in-law, cognizant of grant's stand on slavery, was careful to give the slaves to his daughter.
http://www.thiscruelwar.com/did-general-grant-really-own-slaves/

The main point being: Northern yankee's also had slaves. And when Grant was asked why he didn't get rid of his slaves, his answer was "Good help is hard to find". The point being who ever actually owned the slaves the Emancipation Proclamation didn't apply to them, and even though the slaves belonged to his wife, he benefitted from their slavery.

And even Gen. Sherman had slaves attending him during the war.

Thanks for the clarity.

BTW for even more clarity: Were as Grant owned one, and released him in 1859, his wife owned 3/4 and weren't released until 1865 when the 13th Amendment was passed. Whereas with his opponent in the CW Gen. Lee didn't own any. His FIL owned them, and were released on his FIL's death, in 1862 before the CW.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
The main point being: Northern yankee's also had slaves. And when Grant was asked why he didn't get rid of his slaves, his answer was "Good help is hard to find". The point being who ever actually owned the slaves the Emancipation Proclamation didn't apply to them, and even though the slaves belonged to his wife, he benefitted from their slavery.

And even Gen. Sherman had slaves attending him during the war.

Thanks for the clarity.

BTW for even more clarity: Were as Grant owned one, and released him in 1859, his wife owned 3/4 and weren't released until 1865 when the 13th Amendment was passed. Whereas with his opponent in the CW Gen. Lee didn't own any. His FIL owned them, and were released on his FIL's death, in 1862 before the CW.

The War of Northern Aggression began in spring 1861 at the latest, BTW.
 

homepark

Resist
Even if you lay aside the real and perceived differences between the races/ethnic groups, the bottom line is that those taking over in South Africa, are no more indigenous than the Europeans. It is UN sanctioned ethnic cleansing. Racism at its most glaring. I want absolutely nothing to do with the commie, racist slime balls out of the UN. No, I am not optimistic. The planet will descend into another long dark age, and a 1000 years from now, the remnants will look back in wonder, and surmising if the aliens built the big, western cities and all the technology of today. Our finest hour has come and gone.
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Everywhere - yes, everywhere - Africans move en-mass, one sees the destruction of higher level civilization. Johannesburg is only notable because the demographics ensured that the devolution was more rapid. We have seen the same thing in formerly great American cities and the process is well underway in different European urban areas. Anyone refusing to recognize this phenomenon is nothing more than an intellectual coward.

One African nation that the political Left is always uncomfortable with is Liberia. Liberia was founded by former American Negro slaves and substantial injections of US money. These American-Africans were returning to the land of their fore-bearers and brought with them the blessings of Western civilization. They brought English literacy, cutting edge (for the day) modern technology and the latest advances in modern engineering, politics and medicine. In terms of knowledge this was a multi-generational upward boost for Africans and in the Left's myopic, racial egalitarian fantasy world, should have resulted in a 'shining city on the hill' for the African continent. Instead, needless to say, it quickly devolved into a cesspool and has only gone further downhill during the following many decades. The Liberians themselves are proud of their historical American connections and the country is replete with American names adorning everything from government buildings to streets and towns. Still, in objective, functional terms, it's no different than a score of other failed sub-saharan African countries.

Best regards
Doc
 
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