POL What Would Really Happen If Ron Paul Were To Be Elected President?

Ender

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by Bill Sardi

So what would really happen if Ron Paul were as elected President?

President Paul would immediately push for $1 trillion cut in federal spending (per year, not the $3 trillion that Democrats proposed over 10 years with half of that from increased taxes).

President Paul would have the authority as commander-and-chief to withdraw troops from overseas, within limits of treaty commitments which must be honored (US supplies defense for Saudi Arabia, many other nations). To the extent possible, the US would cease being the world's policeman and plunderer of foreign economies (Iraq, Libya). The US would cease being a war economy. President Paul would also push to eradicate foreign aid which essentially is bribery, often to foreign despots who the US quietly supports because they hold a strong hand over their masses.

President Paul would have some empty chairs in his Cabinet – the Department of Commerce, Department of Education and other Cabinet positions would be eliminated. Civil service employees would be ushered into other government jobs.

President Paul would likely demand, using his bully-pulpit, a regular audit of the Federal Reserve (recall the FED pushed $13 trillion of short-term loans out the door in the world financial crisis without any oversight, which resulted in worldwide inflation and the unrest we now see in foreign countries – Egypt, Libya, etc – as a result of rising food prices.).

You probably don't know that the Federal Reserve bank takes a 6% cut off the top of all interest it collects as middleman between the US Treasury Dept and local banks. (President John F Kennedy realized this, recognized it would result in huge federal debts in the future, which have now materialized, and cut the Federal Reserve entirely out of the equation in 1963 by directly issuing US Notes, not Federal Reserve currency, into the economy. Of course, shots fired in Dallas ceased that practice and all those US Notes were quietly withdrawn from circulation.) That cut for the central bankers would be eliminated in a Ron Paul Presidency.

President Paul would likely demand and personally oversee an audit of the gold at Ft. Knox. Wouldn't you like to be there for that (live cameras please)? If the gold isn't there, who absconded with it and where is it now? (Might not have to look far, it could be stashed in Federal Reserve bank vaults – recall, the Federal Reserve is not federal, it is a bunch of private banks who may have absconded with the nation's gold supply).

With a public groundswell of support, President Paul would oversee the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service, freeing Americans of the onerous and treacherous task of figuring out the taxes they owe (recall the Secretary of the Treasury couldn't accurately figure out his own taxes). No more debtors prison for not filing tax forms properly (yep, some Americans are in prison for this). That would free-up about 6 billion man-hours and $250-300 billion of money now committed to tax preparation. Real money, not the fractionated loan money, would be returned to the economy.

There would be a re-adjustment period as the nation figures out how to rebuild employment without phony government jobs programs, but anticipate an eventual US renaissance. The US would be spared the fate of Greece which has 40% employment in the government sector, placing those jobs on the back of the remaining tax payers there.

Without an income tax the Federal Reserve would have no conduit to siphon money back out of the economy to limit inflation and it would have to cease its inflationary money printing practices. Mothers of young American children would be told that their struggles to see their kids get ahead in this country will not be futile as the Federal Reserve's planned inflation policy would be put to a halt. If your kids can't earn a better income than the rate of inflation (now 7-11%, government says it is only ~3%) they will surely be impoverished.

For example, if an American child was born in 1990 and her/her mother as sole bread winner was making $35,000 a year on the date of that child's birth, that child would have to earn $60,758 today (2011) to equal his/her mother's salary in 1990. Soccer moms should shout loudly for a Ron Paul Presidency. Your children have no future if one of the other pretenders is elected. Without currency reform, all other reforms become meaningless. The elites will continue to plunder and undermine the wealth that you create.

President Ron Paul would push for the federal government to get out of the real estate lending business.By Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ensuring home loans, lenders generated loans based upon low teaser interest rates (subprime, ALT-A) and unverified incomes and then funneled these bad loans on up to these quasi-government agencies where the public took the losses (these losses are now on the accounting books of the Federal Reserve). In a Ron Paul Presidency, bad lenders would go out of business, not be given bailouts.

The Federal Reserve now holds over $1 trillion in bad loans on it accounting books – let the Federal Reserve get what it deserves – a giant loss as its banks go out of business due to insolvency, just punishment for allowing low interest rates to prevail and create a real estate bubble in the first place. Stop protecting bankers, start protecting your own wealth – vote for Ron Paul!

Without a government backstop to insure home loans, lenders would be more diligent in checking out lender qualifications and incomes. Thefalse demand for housing that the Federal government created would cease and home values would crash, for a short time. But that would be good news – now homes would become affordable.

It is said, if the Federal Government would get out of housing homes prices would tumble by 50%. While that is not good news for the asset-side of lenders accounting books, it is the only way to bring back the housing market in a short time. This is the mark-to-market value accounting that must be practiced. Interest rates on home mortgages would rise, but so would the interest on saved money – Americans would cease losing money on savings accounts (interest on saved money today is less than 1% while inflation is ~7-11%).

While the US economy is said to be the strongest in the world (~$14 trillion), the US is hiding the fact its Gross Domestic Product is actually in decline and that probably half of the GDP is comprised of financial gains from moving money around. An example is the stock market with 70% of its trades now comprised of high-speed millisecond trading. Financial gains are contrived and there is no real value created out of these phony transactions, nor is any employment created. The lending classes will have to face reality. Phony numbers would not likely be a part of a Ron Paul Presidency.

With a groundswell of public support, President Ron Paul would push for a currency that has limited stretchability by backing it with gold. No more rubber money. The fortunes of Americans would cease being eroded by money printing practices at the Federal Reserve. If you missed Ron Paul's object lesson - he recently held up a pre-1964 silver dime (dimes today have no silver in them) and said it is worth ~$3.00 today, about the price of a gallon of gasoline. That means a gold-backed dollar could buy you a full tank of gas. Imagine that?

But inflationary policies have robbed American bank accounts of wealth. The thief of inflation that is robbing your money out the back door of your local bank would be handcuffed.

Ron Paul would also push for competing currencies (if this sounds foreign to you, we already have one – its called a VISA card, and don't forget American Express Checks). Creators of currencies who have the most backing in the form of reserves would have the most desired currencies, those who don't would have currencies of lesser value.

So what would happen worldwide with the announcement of a Ron Paul Presidency? Did you see what happened yesterday when the European Union band-aided its currency and debt problems for the time being. Markets soared with even a hint of sound money. Likewise, a Ron Paul Presidency should cause markets to soar just on the announcement of his Presidency. The International Monetary Fund has been begging the US to cut federal spending or devalue its currency by 30%.

The tax and print-money Keynsians would be ousted from power. Phony money would be a thing of the past. Real jobs, not government-contrived jobs that add a 15% administration burden and place the salaries of government workers on the remaining private sector, would be created. Two bad examples are Solyndra and General Motors, both whom received a government-back loan and then sought government contracts to sell solar panels to the US Navy and Chevy Volt electric cars to the federal government's fleet of automobiles. That is nothing but false demand.

Imagine Ron Paul appoints a new chief at the Food & Drug Administration who turns that institution upside down, who complies with the law (Dietary Supplement Health & Education Act) rather than repudiates or ignores it as the current FDA does, and works to allow health claims for natural medicines that work far more safely and effectively than synthetically made drugs, and at much lower cost. Imagine the National Institutes of Health is forced to generate studies to reveal the true effectiveness of vitamins C and D, as previously documented by this author in the archives at LewRockwell.com, and the life expectancy of Americans soars and their quality of life in their retirement years greatly improves. Dr. Ron Paul is committed to this kind of real change, not give lip service to it.

Imagine for a moment that President Ron Paul, advocate of free markets, calls for a true revamp of the nation's electrical grid unlike the current administration which only gives rhetoric to the idea. With installation of new US-manufactured power cable technology that is able to transmit twice as much power on a single power line with 9-20% greater efficiency (less line loss), averting the need for 98 new fossil-fueled or atomic power plants by stringing just 3000 miles of the nation's power lines with this US-made technology, and bringing $60 billion greater bottom-line profits to power generating companies, your electricity bill would be measurably trimmed instead of continually rising.

Ron Paul – your President. Your vote for RP will cause all of the above and more to happen. This article is just a sampling of what could happen almost overnight. One man, one moment in time, and everything changes on day-one of a RP Presidency. It would the best $39,000 your government could invest (Ron Paul has publicly stated he would take a $39,000/year salary while in office compared to the $400,000/year salary of the incumbent, to set an example).

Don't be dissuaded by bogus claims "Ron Paul is unelectable" or by the menu of wanna-be candidates served up by the news media. The 4th-Estate, the nation's major news sources are not unbiased parties. The news media is in dire financial straits themselves and wants those campaign advertising dollars, particularly the $750 million the incumbent President is likely to raise like he did last election. Ron Paul is electable – by you. Make the election of RP so magnanimous that even vote fraud can't hide it.

Let's recap – no income tax, the Federal government generates revenues by other means; no IRS forms to deal with; no need to send your kids off to phony wars in foreign theatres; no more cut off the top by the Federal Reserve; assurance there really is gold in Ft. Knox; gold-backed money like this nation once had before the banksters cut their own deal at Jekyll Island, South Carolina decades ago and Nixon took America off the gold standard; rising individual purchasing power as inflation is nixed (no need to ask the boss for a raise, your money will buy more), financial gains on your banked money instead of erosion of your wealth via inflation; your chance to own a home will greatly improve rather than the current situation where home ownership is now only a fading American pipe dream; and true reform of healthcare rather than manipulation by those with vested interests.

These are what a Ron Paul Presidency portends. This is Doctor Ron Paul's prescription for the re-installation of sanity in American politics. Entrenched forces and crony capitalism are destroying America. You can fight back. Let the public's voice be heard loud at the ballot box. Vote for Ron Paul so the 99% can have a real opportunity to become the 1%.

You can save your country, save your family, save your nation's future – vote Ron Paul for President.

October 31, 2011
 

Be Well

may all be well
I also want to know, what would happen if snow was warm?

If the sunshine turned cold?

If it rained candy?
 

Y2kO

Inactive
Yes, the president has a lot of power to do a lot of things, thanks to GW Bush and Obama accumulating more and more power to the office. For once, it would be used for good, for the benefit of the nation and its people, and not to destroy that nation.
 

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Ender, could you please provide a link? I'd like to post this elsewhere. Thanks!
 

LMonty911

Deceased
agreed. sadly his history shows me he wont be taken seriously, and the media will continue to ignore, abuse and even demonize his platform and the man itself. i think his chances of being the nominee are slim to none. but if in some twist of fate he makes it, i would cheerfully vote for him. and pray he uses wisdom in implementing his foreign policy in a way that doesn't cause more problems than it solves. his failure to communicate that and how his other plans can be implemented to all but his base is what i think will sink him, as it did in 2008. it is so blatantly obvious i just don't understand why his campaign doesn't address it RTFN. i think his advisers are doing him a great disservice in not teaching him better communication skills. they need to take the fear out of his constitutional purity, show everyone how much they would benefit. the other thing they need to work on is his frustration (my guess to the cause) when he debates or talks to media. it seems he sees this so clearly he cant get it how others don't. so almost every time i hear him, he comes off sounding whiny. he needs to beat that, its a big turn off. i so wish that his campaign would jump on these two issues and fix them quick. then he might just have a chance.
 

Straycat

Veteran Member
I suspect President Paul would be assassinated fairly quickly. Such an enemy of the existing paradigm would never be allowed to get away with it.
 

Kadosh

Membership Revoked
I suspect President Paul would be assassinated fairly quickly. Such an enemy of the existing paradigm would never be allowed to get away with it.
Then his VP would have to adhere to very similar values and carry on with the plan.
 

ltd

Higher Ground
Ender,

THANKS for this great posting! Now this is HOPE and CHANGE I can believe in ...:wvflg:
 

West

Senior
Also what would happen is, I would personally hire my competitions employees at double their current pay and do business at cost for the first year to build up a strong client base, then after the first year or two, after the good DR. gets rid of payroll taxes, I could start making real profit and be able to afford a retirement account and good health insurance. Maybe even a real vacation. And 10% of my profits would go to real charity.

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Blastoff

Veteran Member
I am beginning to think maybe Paul does not want to be President. He raises a lot of $$, but what he really needs to focus on is effective delivery of his message. I saw his speech at the Faith & Freedom Forum, and he has a lot of important things to say, but he had a rapid fire delivery, and lacked coherent, clear delivery. I read End the Fed by Paul as well, and that book was kind of scattershot as well.

I would think if he really wanted to win, he'd work on packaging his message in a way that would capture more voter attention. The fact that he does not in now his third presidential run says something.

IMHO; yours may vary.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
The fact that he does not in now his third presidential run says something.

There are people who feel that their message is so intuitively obvious that about all they need to do is outline the title and everybody will agree they are right and follow them to the promised land.

Paul keeps falling into that trap.
 

FREEBIRD

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If Paul got anywhere near power he'd either be shot or (more likely, IMO) there would be a "tragic" plane crash.
 

West

Senior
The fact that he does not in now his third presidential run says something.

There are people who feel that their message is so intuitively obvious that about all they need to do is outline the title and everybody will agree they are right and follow them to the promised land.

Paul keeps falling into that trap.

I drudgingly have to agree with you.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Part of the problem is the same thing occurring today. Not that I am for Obama but I'm talking about the system. Unless Dr. Paul could be elected with a Congress that would be the majority in his corner, I doubt very much if anything at all would be accomplished. Too many voters are currently hung up in the entitlement meme ... they'll fight that tooth and nail and they will elect officials that do the same thing regardless of party. There would likely be so much upheaval and confusion with such a radical change in foreign policy that the work here at home couldn't be readily accomplished without even more upheaval. He would be at best a one term president and that again would water down his chances of accomplishing anything unless he had a Congress that was firmly in his corner. There would be a lot of hold ups in the court system as people brought suit after suit against what he proposes.

I agree with some of what he stands for obviously, but the fact that he's been in Congress ... what, going on 30 years or more? ... and hasn't gotten more of his agenda accomplished means that he is unlikely to do so as president either. And I can't see him running again in the next presidential campaign without risking of further damaging his ability to impact within Congress. If he is one of the causes of Obama getting re-elected because intentionally or or not he splits the vote there are going to be some very angry people out there.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Unless Dr. Paul could be elected with a Congress that would be the majority in his corner, I doubt very much if anything at all would be accomplished.

There are Dreaming Sheep out there who are positive that Bush/Obama have accrued so much Presidential Power that any new President can do anything. Somebody is in for a big shock if they don't have Congress with them.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Unless Dr. Paul could be elected with a Congress that would be the majority in his corner, I doubt very much if anything at all would be accomplished.

There are Dreaming Sheep out there who are positive that Bush/Obama have accrued so much Presidential Power that any new President can do anything. Somebody is in for a big shock if they don't have Congress with them.

Well, the problem with that is if Dr. Paul is a strict Constitutionalist he won't utilize that false power. So it is a catch-22. Because if he does utilize that false, extra-constitutional power then he skewers his stance as a role model for returning to the Constitution.
 

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
Not much would happen. He would not get support from Congress. If he attempted to use Executive Orders they would impeach him after screaming, Dictator. If all else failed he would probably be assassinated or come to some other untimely unexplained death. Finally, he will not be the nominee so what if frogs had wings?
 

Ender

Inactive
Kinda funny that the generation that is always down on today's kids because this generation is too media/IT driven, needs a guy with charisma while the "kids" just need the Truth.

Obama has tons of charisma.

The reason RP has so many younger supporters, like Captain America, for instance, is because they know the Truth when they hear it. Older generations want a Reagan to make them feel warm and fuzzy, while the US debt jettisons out of the known universe and the masses become enslaved.

If you like Ron Paul's constitutional stand, then quit saying he's "unelectable" and get him elected. If you are worried about Congress, then elect those that follow the constitution.

Romney or Cain is not going to beat Obama- they are both neocons BTW- besides O is not a "lefty"; he is also a bonafide neocon and has simply followed the path that W provided. Many think that RP is the ONLY one that can beat Obama- why do you think he is so marginalized? Why does the media ignore his winning polls? His popularity? The fact that he is so popular with no media support speaks volumes.

If a man like Judge Napolitano calls RP the "Jefferson of today" and dedicates his book to him, everybody should get off their woulds/coulda/shoulda and start doing some studying. It's only the entire future of America that is at stake.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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If a man like Judge Napolitano calls RP the "Jefferson of today" and dedicates his book to him, everybody should get off their woulds/coulda/shoulda and start doing some studying. It's only the entire future of America that is at stake.

Jefferson had his faults like everyone else so I try not and use them as role models per se but as examples when possible. Putting people on a pedastal is a good way to make them fall off.

And Dr. Paul would need the Congress in place prior to election since generally the offset is two years and with the way the current Congress is constantly deadlocked I have a hard time seeing Dr. Paul accomplish many, if any, goals the first one or two years in office. Then because of his goals there is likely to be a public backlash ... I mean realistically if he had all of the popular support to begin with this wouldn't be his third or whatever time running for President. So even if he comes in the door with a sympathetic Congress I doubt he'll walk out the door with one. I also doubt he would have more than one term to accomplish his agenda ... again because of the types of changes he is calling for which means that his last year of office will likely accomplish few if any of his agenda.

So he would have window of one or two years of his presidential term to get things accomplished, again whittled on both ends by transitional effects. And if he truly believes in the Constitutional system he'll go through things the way they are supposed to which in essense of the way things work is time consuming etc. again whittling down the amount of time he'll have to accomplish something.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it isn't noble and all that, my concern is the assumption that electing Dr. Paul will actually have the outcome that so many of his supporters assume. And if they are calling for him to use the same false powers and executive orders that have come up in the last several presidents then they don't really stand for the same Constitution that Dr. Paul says that he stands for.

The ends doesn't justify the means and I think that Dr. Paul at least understands that.
 

Blastoff

Veteran Member
The reason RP has so many younger supporters...is because they know the Truth when they hear it. Older generations want a Reagan to make them feel warm and fuzzy...If you like Ron Paul's constitutional stand, then quit saying he's "unelectable" and get him elected.

Ron Paul ran for President in 1988; how many of his young supporters from that era still support him, I wonder? Those supporters would be in their 40s now. I wonder about his ideas having "staying power" among the American public.

And it's Paul's job to convince Americans to support him. How is he going to get the country where he wants it to go? Also he seems negative; a lot of talk about what is wrong, wrong, wrong with America. Even if it is the "Truth," people are looking for a workable answer. Without one, people are just unhappy with the status quo.
 

Ender

Inactive
Ron Paul ran for President in 1988; how many of his young supporters from that era still support him, I wonder? Those supporters would be in their 40s now. I wonder about his ideas having "staying power" among the American public.

And it's Paul's job to convince Americans to support him. How is he going to get the country where he wants it to go? Also he seems negative; a lot of talk about what is wrong, wrong, wrong with America. Even if it is the "Truth," people are looking for a workable answer. Without one, people are just unhappy with the status quo.

Different crowd in 1988- plus as member of this forum, you should know that the US is in the canner. You want him to lie to you to make you feel better?
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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If, through some 4th-dimensional rift, RP was elected, he would be assassinated on the Capitol steps while taking the Oath. TPTB absolutely CANNOT allow someone like him to make it to the WH. Cannot. Will not. Would sacrifice a battalion of mercenaries if necessary, live and on C-Span.
 

Ender

Inactive
If, through some 4th-dimensional rift, RP was elected, he would be assassinated on the Capitol steps while taking the Oath. TPTB absolutely CANNOT allow someone like him to make it to the WH. Cannot. Will not. Would sacrifice a battalion of mercenaries if necessary, live and on C-Span.

Then he will have to be protected. Don't forget he has the largest number of Military who support him.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Ender, it would be impossible to protect him. TPTB would put a shooter right up next to him when he took the Oath.
 

Blastoff

Veteran Member
Different crowd in 1988- plus as member of this forum, you should know that the US is in the canner. You want him to lie to you to make you feel better?

Was Paul's message different in 1988? Apparently not, if Wikipedia is to be believed.
Are you saying people were different in 1988? I was a 20-something then.
 

Ender

Inactive
Was Paul's message different in 1988? Apparently not, if Wikipedia is to be believed.
Are you saying people were different in 1988? I was a 20-something then.

RP's message is the same- the young people then did not know they were slaves; they do now.
 

Ender

Inactive
So.

Anybody for the Constitution or are we just a bunch of whiner wannabees that will vote for any neocon as long as its not Obama?
 

Ender

Inactive
Not ALL of us are whiner wannabes who'd vote for yet another disgusting neocon.

Obviously there are a few - :D

Just amazed over the flutter of the silly Cain accusation, and hardly a peep over things, like the country/constitution/debt/solutions and things that might really matter.
 

Z28Camaro6D9

Veteran Member
The author doesn't even mention what I consider to be one of Ron Paul's greatest attributes: -He is by far the strongest of any current politician in his support of the 2nd Amendment.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Obviously there are a few - :D

Just amazed over the flutter of the silly Cain accusation, and hardly a peep over things, like the country/constitution/debt/solutions and things that might really matter.


And this surprises you...?
 

Sebastian

Sebastian
Ron Paul ran for President in 1988; how many of his young supporters from that era still support him, I wonder? Those supporters would be in their 40s now. I wonder about his ideas having "staying power" among the American public.

And it's Paul's job to convince Americans to support him. How is he going to get the country where he wants it to go? Also he seems negative; a lot of talk about what is wrong, wrong, wrong with America. Even if it is the "Truth," people are looking for a workable answer. Without one, people are just unhappy with the status quo.

I was one of those 1988 young supporters, and I have yet find anyone of the 88'ers who have changed their minds.

Trouble is Dr. Paul got even shorter shift with the MSM then then he does now.

There were a lot of complaints that Dr. Paul gives short answers to complex questions. Well that is what one must do if one is given 30 seconds in a two hour debate. OK I exaggerate but not by all that much.

For anyone who is really interested in hearing Dr. Paul expound at length I suggest lewrockwell.com they have archives of the good doctors articles going back years.

He also has several books I like and suggest "the case for gold" you'll never look at money in the same way again.
 
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