CORP/BIZ What to know about the Amazon strike planned for Black Friday

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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Workers for the largest online retailer in the world are on strike during one of the busiest shopping weekends of the holiday season.

Amazon employees have begun protesting, with demonstrations planned in more than 20 countries starting on Black Friday over "labor abuses, environmental degradation and threats to democracy," according to UNI Global Union and Progressive International, a Switzerland-based global labor union.

Demonstrators are calling for increased wages, improved working conditions, and for employees to be permitted to unionize.

Dubbed the "Make Amazon Pay days of resistance," the strike is scheduled to last from Black Friday through Cyber Monday, the union announced in a press release. Protests can be expected in major cities in the United States, Germany, the United Kingdom, Japan, India, Brazil and more.


Demonstrators during a 'Make Amazon Pay' protest outside an Amazon Fresh store in Washington, DC, Nov. 25, 2022.
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— UNI Global Union (@uniglobalunion) November 29, 2024
The strike could lead to delays in holiday deliveries for customers, economy experts told ABC News.

Unions and allied groups around the world are planning to participate, according to UNI Global Union.
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Thousands of workers in the German cities of Graben, Dortmund Werne, Bad Hersfeld, Leipzig, Koblenz and Rheinberg planned to protest, in addition to hundreds in New Delhi, who are demonstrating to demand fair treatment following the mistreatment of workers during a heat wave in July, the union said.

The Association for the Taxation of Financial Transactions and Citizen's Action will hold protests in multiple cities across France, and garment workers will also take to the streets in Bangladesh, the union said.


Amazon staff members on a GMB union picket line outside the online retailer's site in Coventry, England, as they take part in a strike in their long-running dispute over pay, held on Black Friday, Nov. 24, 2024.
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This year marks the fifth annual Make Amazon Pay demonstration, which aims to "hold Amazon accountable around the world" by targeting a busy holiday shopping weekend. In 2023, Amazon represented 18% of the worldwide Black Friday sales, with more than $170 billion in total holiday sales, according to an earnings report released earlier this year.

"Amazon's relentless pursuit of profit comes at a cost to workers, the environment and democracy," said Christy Hoffman, general secretary of UNI Global Union. "[Jeff] Bezos' company has spent untold millions to stop workers from organizing, but the strikes and protests happening around the world show that workers' desire for justice -- for union representation -- can't be stopped. We stand united in demanding that Amazon treat its workers fairly, respect fundamental rights, and stop undermining the systems meant to protect us all."


MORE: Inside an alleged Amazon union-busting campaign in Kentucky: 'They want to scare us'​



Amazon defended its treatment of workers in a statement to ABC News on Thursday.

"This group is being intentionally misleading and continues to promote a false narrative," Amazon spokesperson Eileen Hards said. "The fact is at Amazon we provide great pay, great benefits, and great opportunities -- all from day one. We've created more than 1.5 million jobs around the world, and counting, and we provide a modern, safe, and engaging workplace whether you work in an office or at one of our operations buildings."

The company announced earlier this year a $2.2 billion investment to increase pay for fulfillment and transportation employees in the U.S. As a result, the average base wage for these employees is now more than $22 per hour and the average total compensation more than $29 per hour when the value of their elected benefits is factored in, according to the company.

Comprehensive benefits for these employees that begin on the first day of employment include health, vision and dental insurance; a 401(k) with 50% company match; up to 20 weeks paid leave, which includes 14 weeks of pregnancy-related disability leave and six weeks of parental leave; and Amazon's Career Choice program, which prepays college tuition, according to Amazon.

An earlier statement to ABC News from Amazon stated: "While we're always listening and looking at ways to improve, we remain proud of the competitive pay, comprehensive benefits and engaging, safe work experiences we provide our teams."


Amazon warehouse facility storefront exterior in Houston, Tx., April 4, 2021.
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Amazon workers have been outspoken in recent years about workers' rights, especially as the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic increased the number of online orders. E-commerce sales in the U.S. increased by $244.2 billion -- or 43% -- in 2020, the first year of the pandemic, rising from $571.2 billion in 2019 to $815.4 billion in 2020, according to the Census Bureau's Annual Retail Trade Survey.

In 2022, a worker-led independent group led the first-ever U.S. union at the company, unionizing a 6,000-employee Amazon warehouse in Staten Island, New York.


MORE: Nearly 2,000 Amazon workers to walk out after return to office​



While subsequent attempts at facilities in Alabama and New York have failed, efforts have continued.

In June 2023, nearly 2,000 Amazon workers organized a walkout after a mandate to return to the office was issued. In Kentucky, Amazon employees who spoke to ABC News alleged that the company was leading a union-busting campaign to discourage employees from organizing.

Amazon told ABC News last year that the disciplinary action taken by the company at an Amazon facility in Kentucky came in response to infractions of company policy.

"Amazon squeezes everything that it can get, but it changes its behavior depending on its jurisdiction," James Schneider, communications director for Progressive International, told ABC News this week. "Let's say, in Sweden, it engages much better at how it operates with trade unions. But in the U.S., it engages in union busting."


Demonstrators hold up a 'Make Amazon Pay' banner during a demonstration supporting Amazon.com workers, on a day of global strike action by the company's employees, on Black Friday in Berlin, Germany, Nov. 25, 2022.
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A 2022 report by the United Nations' International Labour Organization found that post-pandemic inflation and the rising cost of living have been decreasing the value of minimum wage globally.

The rise of inflation has paved the way for collective action, experts say. (Starbucks was also part of the 2022 union resurgence.)

"Amazon is everywhere, but so are we. By uniting our movements across borders, we can not only force Amazon to change its ways but lay the foundations of a world that prioritizes human dignity, not Jeff Bezos' bank balance," said Varsha Gandikota-Nellutla, Progressive International's co-general coordinator.
 

adgal

Veteran Member
I have family members who work for Amazon and they love working for them - good pay, good benefits, and they try to promote from within. I sell all my books through Amazon - they have created a whole new market for independent authors to be able to sell worldwide and not have to jump through the hoops of traditional book publishers.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie
Some do anyway. They stop at the Casey's or the Qwik Trip for a pop and a bathroom break. I suspect management isn't saying much because workers are needed right now.

I'm older. I couldn't work at a job where I can't use the restroom when I need to. Unlike the children, I don't use that time to look at my phone. I get in and get out quickly.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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Some do anyway. They stop at the Casey's or the Qwik Trip for a pop and a bathroom break. I suspect management isn't saying much because workers are needed right now.

I'm older. I couldn't work at a job where I can't use the restroom when I need to. Unlike the children, I don't use that time to look at my phone. I get in and get out quickly.
The problem is when your route takes you far away from convenience stores and gas stations.
That is one reason I like Flex.
My routes last 2 and a half hours tops.
 

Zardoz

Senior Member
Nothing not-capitalist about using the market value of everyone's labor all at the same time. Labor has value. Ever try to run a business without it?
Yes, labor does have value, but that value has a narrow limit. As labor costs go up beyond market limits, business profits go down. A business cannot always pass on their increased costs of doing business. Just look at all the business failures happening today.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Yes, labor does have value, but that value has a narrow limit. As labor costs go up beyond market limits, business profits go down. A business cannot always pass on their increased costs of doing business. Just look at all the business failures happening today.

Somehow I doubt Amazon is so strapped for cash that throwing labor a few more dollars and some actual time off would cripple them.
 

SlipperySlope

Veteran Member
I seldom order from them. I am handicapped so it would be convenient, but the prices seem high to me. I probably get a 35$ order once or twice a year on items that I can't get anywhere else.

I do know 2 or 3 people that order on an almost daily basis. They will sure miss the service due to the strike. I have an acquaintance that spends over 1,000$ a month there.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I seldom order from them. I am handicapped so it would be convenient, but the prices seem high to me. I probably get a 35$ order once or twice a year on items that I can't get anywhere else.

I do know 2 or 3 people that order on an almost daily basis. They will sure miss the service due to the strike. I have an acquaintance that spends over 1,000$ a month there.
Amazon gets the bulk of their items from alibaba. (I cross checked on some items and side by side they are the same ones, just loads cheaper on aliexpress(chinese amazon)). By my estimate they are doing a 300-500% markup on most items due to the volumes they buy in.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie
The problem is when your route takes you far away from convenience stores and gas stations.
That is one reason I like Flex.
My routes last 2 and a half hours tops.

I can see that happening! However, around my area, one is never more than ten miles from a Casey's, Qwik Trip, Kum & Go (now Maverick), or independent gas & mini-mart. The farmers really don't want drivers stopping and peeing in their fields! (Truth!)
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Somehow I doubt Amazon is so strapped for cash that throwing labor a few more dollars and some actual time off would cripple them.

A few more dollars? Really? These people make at least $20/hour starting. Then you have all of the state and fed employment taxes the employer pays, not the employee. Then there is the cost of the bennies they all want ... again, most if not all subsidized by the employer.

So what you see as a buck more an hour per thousands of employees winds up being twice, thrice, and more than that.

Don't underestimate the cost of hiring a single employee (including training and providing equipment, etc.) much less an entire company of employees. The cost of an employee far exceeds their hourly rate.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
A few more dollars? Really? These people make at least $20/hour starting. Then you have all of the state and fed employment taxes the employer pays, not the employee. Then there is the cost of the bennies they all want ... again, most if not all subsidized by the employer.

So what you see as a buck more an hour per thousands of employees winds up being twice, thrice, and more than that.

Don't underestimate the cost of hiring a single employee (including training and providing equipment, etc.) much less an entire company of employees. The cost of an employee far exceeds their hourly rate.
Amazon's third quarter net income was $15.3 billion. That's net, as in after expenses.

Amazon pleading poverty is like Kamala telling us why North Carolina can only get $750 per person.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Amazon's third quarter net income was $15.3 billion. That's net, as in after expenses.

Amazon pleading poverty is like Kamala telling us why North Carolina can only get $750 per person.

Let's see. You can hire someone, do all the investing and etc to get your business up and running, take all the financial risks, and then have that employee tell you how much money you are allowed to earn because they want a piece of the pie that you risked your money for.

Real socialist of you.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Let's see. You can hire someone, do all the investing and etc to get your business up and running, take all the financial risks, and then have that employee tell you how much money you are allowed to earn because they want a piece of the pie that you risked your money for.

Real socialist of you.

Spare me your name-calling. It's the direct opposite. The workers are out to get every dime they can. There is NOTHING more capitalist than that. That "pie" wouldn't exist without the person assembling it, baking it, and selling it.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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Remember, Amazon is the company that got sued for with holding the tips some of the whole foods drivers earned delivering groceries.


Amazon will pay $61.7 million to settle claims it withheld tips from delivery workers​

The FTC alleges that Amazon in 2016 shifted from paying drivers the promised rate of $18 to $25 per hour, plus tips, to paying drivers a lower hourly rate.

Feb. 2, 2021, 12:02 PM EST
By Annie Palmer, CNBC
Amazon will pay $61.7 million to settle allegations by the Federal Trade Commission that it failed to pay Flex delivery drivers the full amount of tips received from customers.
The commission voted 4-0 in favor of the settlement, which was announced Tuesday. In the complaint, the FTC alleges that Amazon in 2016 shifted from paying drivers the promised rate of $18 to $25 per hour, plus tips, to paying drivers a lower hourly rate.

Amazon “intentionally failed” to notify drivers of this change and used the tips to make up the difference between the promised rate and the new lower hourly rate, according to the FTC.
“Rather than passing along 100% of customers’ tips to drivers, as it had promised to do, Amazon used the money itself,” said Daniel Kaufman, acting director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, in a statement. “Our action today returns to drivers the tens of millions of dollars in tips that Amazon misappropriated, and requires Amazon to get drivers’ permission before changing its treatment of tips in the future.”



Amazon spokesperson Rena Lunak told CNBC in a statement that the company disagrees with the FTC’s claim that the pay model for drivers was unclear.
“While we disagree that the historical way we reported pay to drivers was unclear, we added additional clarity in 2019 and are pleased to put this matter behind us,” Lunak said. “Amazon Flex delivery partners play an important role in serving customers every day, which is why they earn among the best in the industry at over $25 per hour on average.”
Amazon Flex operates similarly to Uber, in that contracted delivery drivers pick up shifts on demand to deliver Amazon packages or Whole Foods orders to customers’ doorsteps. The service, launched in 2015, uses drivers to deliver packages from their own vehicles and operates in more than 50 cities across the U.S.
In its complaint, the FTC further alleges that Amazon sought to obscure the change in policy from drivers, after it received hundreds of complaints from drivers who had become suspicious that their overall earnings decreased.

Employees at Amazon appeared to recognize the risks of how the company handled the change, referring to it as an “Amazon reputation tinderbox” and “a huge PR risk to Amazon,” the FTC said.
As part of the settlement, Amazon is required to pay more than $61.7 million to the FTC, which will be used by the agency to compensate Flex drivers. The settlement also prohibits Amazon from misrepresenting any driver’s likely income or rate of pay, how much of their tips will be paid to them, as well as whether the amount paid by a customer is a tip. Amazon is also prohibited from making any changes to how a driver’s tips are used as compensation without first getting consent from drivers.

The settlement comes as on-demand delivery services DoorDash and Instacart have also attracted public scrutiny for their tipping practices.
Last November, DoorDash reached a $2.5 million settlement with the attorney general of the District of Columbia over claims it misled consumers and pocketed workers’ tips. Washington, D.C. Attorney General Karl Racine announced charges against DoorDash after his office found the company used customers’ tips to offset the minimum payment owed to workers. DoorDash said in 2019 it had changed its tipping model.
Similarly, Racine in August of last year filed a lawsuit against Instacart, claiming the company deceived customers into thinking an optional service fee would be collected as a tip for workers and pocketed it for itself instead.
Annie Palmer, CNBC
 

#1 oldskool

"You finally really did it. You maniacs!
Higher pay and the right to unionize will really slap that pesky " environmental degradation and threats to democracy" right in the ol' kisser !!!! LOLOLOLOLOL
 

savurselvs

Veteran Member
The delivery drivers are contractors or employed by contractors.
My eldest and cousin both were delivery drivers for short spells
I was told they weren’t employed by amazon but by contractors.
And possibly contractors by another contractor .
Sub of a sub
So at best they made 16 hr.
Not the 22.00 hr you see in the articles and press
That kinda wage I understand Needing more.
But 22 an hour is a hell of a wage in this neck of the woods
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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My eldest and cousin both were delivery drivers for short spells
I was told they weren’t employed by amazon but by contractors.
And possibly contractors by another contractor .
Sub of a sub
So at best they made 16 hr.
Not the 22.00 hr you see in the articles and press
That kinda wage I understand Needing more.
But 22 an hour is a hell of a wage in this neck of the woods
Pay seems to vary by State.
At least it does for Flex drivers, so I assume the same for DSP drivers.
 

subnet

Boot
over " environmental degradation and threats to democracy"

"calling for increased wages, improved working conditions, and for employees to be permitted to unionize."

I may still be waking up this morning but this is retarded.
 

savurselvs

Veteran Member
The delivery drivers are contractors or employed by contractors.
My eldest and cousin both were delivery drivers for short spells
I was told they weren’t employed by amazon but by contractors.
And possibly contractors by anothet contractor .
Sub of a sub
So at best they made 16 hr.
Not the 22.00 hr
 
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