FASCISM What To Do If The Older People In Your Life Are Sharing False Or Extreme Content

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This article was listed under the following title:
How To Talk To Boomers And Other Older People In Your Life About Fake News

but on the article page it said this:
What To Do If The Older People In Your Life Are Sharing False Or Extreme Content

It's part of a series labeled:
Protect Your Parents From The Internet Week

What To Do If The Older People In Your Life Are Sharing False Or Extreme Content

“What do you do when your parents go from posting Minions [memes] to posting hard-right memes about cement milkshakes?”
Picture of Craig Silverman Craig Silverman BuzzFeed News Reporter

Posted on July 23, 2019, at 12:36 p.m. ET

This story is part of Protect Your Parents From the Internet Week.

“Look for the magnifying glass icon,” said Patrick Costales as he pointed to a tablet showing YouTube on its screen.

Costales, 15, was teaching Michele Bianchi, 81, how to search for episodes of Bianchi’s favorite Italian TV shows. This was the fifth Saturday in a row they’d met in the basement of a Toronto library so the teenager could show Bianchi how to email, read news, listen to music, and perform other online tasks as part of a program called Cyber Seniors.

After the session, Costales sat next to his friend and fellow tutor, Mareson Suresh, 15, to discuss the online behavior of the older people in their lives. Had they ever seen an adult post something problematic on social media?

“Frequently,” said Costales.

“My mom loves taking pictures, and even if she says she won’t post it, she posts it,” Suresh said. “And the thing is, I don't follow her on Facebook or anything because I don't use Facebook, but she’s big on it.”

Be it personal photos or false or inflammatory articles and memes, young people find themselves struggling to manage, and at times confront, the extremely online adults in their lives.

Boomers and older generations are by no means the only people having trouble in our new and chaotic information environment, although research suggests they have the most pressing challenges. Younger people also face difficulty, which is why so many news literacy programs target K-12 and college students. But the rapid pace of change on online platforms — and the lack of widespread reach of programs like Cyber Seniors — have left some older adults struggling to catch up.

The challenge is to handle the situation in a way that works and doesn’t fray intergenerational relationships, according to Mike Caulfield, director of blended and networked learning at Washington State University Vancouver. He also runs the Digital Polarization Initiative, which pioneers new approaches to teaching information literacy. Caulfield said his students see the need for older people in their lives to learn the skills he’s teaching.

“Students in every class said, ‘This is great, [now] what are you going to do about the adults?’ It’s one of the consistent things that come up. And it’s not half jokingly; I feel like it’s very sincere,” he said. “I do feel when they bring this up, they have very specific people in mind.”

Fortunately, Caulfield and other experts have advice.

So does Suresh, one of the Toronto teens who’s spent weeks helping seniors master the basics of devices and the internet. “Just say it,” he said. “I know it's weird talking to your family about those specific topics, but it'll benefit them much more ... so you just might as well say it as soon as possible.”

Supply the Missing Context

This one might be called the John Cusack Problem.

Last month the actor tweeted a cartoon that showed a hand emblazoned with the Star of David seeming to crush a group of people. Near it was the quote "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." It was attributed to Voltaire, but the line actually originated with white nationalist Kevin Alfred Strom. Cusack, 53, also added his own comment to the tweet: “Follow the money.”

After facing blowback for the anti-Semitic message, Cusack blamed a “bot.” Then he said he didn’t understand the implications of what he shared. “I mistakenly retweeted an alt right account I thought was agreeing with the horrible bombing of a hospital in Palestine,” he tweeted.

Caulfield said it’s common for older people to unwittingly share things that have extremist messages or iconography. “It's very hard to see people posting stuff that may come from a kind of a dark place that they don't realize is dark,” Caulfield said. “What do you do when your parents go from posting Minions [memes] to posting hard-right memes about cement milkshakes?”

He says it’s important to intervene privately and help the person understand the larger — and more concerning — context.

“There's a good chance your family member doesn't understand that and might be horrified at what they're sharing. And so there’s a point to intervene and let people know, ‘Hey, I know, this was probably not what you meant, but…’”

Keep It Positive and Personal

Experts agree that being non-confrontational is key. Daniel Kent founded Net Literacy, a nonprofit, in 2003 when he was in middle school in Indiana. One of its first programs was Senior Connects, which helps older people get online and gain basic internet skills.

“I think it’s fundamentally about treating [older people] with concern and respect. Recognizing that ... perhaps they had the best of intentions, but the execution on their part perhaps wasn't the most, the most thoughtful and mindful,” he said.

If you do want to say something, Kent and Caulfield suggest engaging in person — or by direct message or phone if that’s not possible. If you call someone out publicly on Facebook or elsewhere, they’re likely to feel attacked or shamed, and you won’t have a chance to hear why they wanted to share a particular piece of content. Understanding where someone is coming from and why they shared or posted what they did is essential, Kent and Caulfield say.

“With our volunteers [we] preach as much empathy as possible,” Kent said.

But Don’t Be Afraid to Go Public

While engaging privately is often best, there are cases where you may want to intervene publicly. For example, if an acquaintance is sharing false or misleading information that’s generating lots of engagement.

“You can think of yourself as intervening not really to stop the poster, but intervening on behalf of your friends who are seeing this and may get suckered by it,” he said.

The rule of not being aggressive or confrontational still applies. He suggested acknowledging the original poster’s sentiment, adding to the discussion by sharing an alternate report about the same topic, and saying why it offers a more accurate portrayal.

Get Them to Google (News) It

When someone in your life seems to share information that’s unmoored from reality, try to understand what emotion, opinion, or idea the person is trying to express — and shift them toward a better place to get that information.

“You push them to a better source that is related to their concern,” said Caulfield.

One caveat: If the particular idea or claim is odious or clearly false, it’s not your job to help them express it. “If they're a white supremacist, don't validate their concern,” he said. “But if they have a concern that is is somewhat valid, that comes from valid worries, you can empathize.”

Caulfield suggests encouraging the person to search for the central topic or claim on Google News, which exercises control over which websites are included in its database. This helps locate a story from a more credible source that still acknowledges their point of view or emotion.

“Nine times out of 10, you could make your point with a story from USA Today,” said Caulfield. “It might not be the same clickbait headline, but it takes you 10 seconds to go find an [alternate] story.”

This exercise also exposes the person to different headlines about the same topic, helping them see which facts are broadly consistent across different outlets, or not. “There's just something that is really powerful about going to Google News and scanning those headlines and seeing, ‘Hey, look, one of these headlines is not like the others,’” he said.

Look in the Mirror

Be self-aware enough to realize you may also not have the best information-consumption habits, either. Practice finding other sources for a story and compare details to learn to spot inconsistencies between coverage. Then share the good stuff. You can also choose to do that instead of intervening with friends and family.

“In most cases, you're better off sharing new material with family members that will resonate with them or focusing correction efforts on people with bigger platforms than Uncle Rick,” Caulfield said.

Even if some of the adults in your life struggle with what they share, they’re still people with a wealth of knowledge, experience, and love to offer. Suresh, the 15-year-old in Toronto, taught his 79-year-old student, Eufemia Bianchi, many things about her Samsung phone, but it has also been a learning experience for him.

“I feel like one of the biggest things about this program is having a reason to talk to elders, because as teens you don’t have that many opportunities to talk to some of the smartest people in your community, and especially people who have all those life experiences,” he said.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...le-worry-about-older-people-sharing-fake-news
 

StarryEyedLad

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Another article in the series.

Saw it labeled as:
What An Aging Population Means For The Future Of The Internet

Again had a different title on the article page:
Old, Online, And Fed On Lies: How An Aging Population Will Reshape The Internet

Old, Online, And Fed On Lies: How An Aging Population Will Reshape The Internet
Older people play an outsized role in civic life. They also are more likely to be online targets for misinformation and hyperpartisan rhetoric.
Craig Silverman BuzzFeed News Reporter
Reporting From Fort Washington, Maryland

Posted on April 3, 2019, at 5:44 a.m. ET

FORT WASHINGTON, Maryland — It’s late morning and roughly 25 senior citizens are learning how to talk to Siri. They pick up their iPads and press the home button, and pings echo around the room as Siri asks what she can do to help.

“Siri, what’s the closest coffee shop?” one woman asks.

“Sorry I’m having trouble with the connection, please try again?” Siri says.

A handful of employees with AARP, the national nonprofit focused on Americans age 50 and older, hover behind the participants and jump in to help. They’re in Fort Washington, Maryland, to deliver four free workshops about how to use an iPad. Participants learn how to turn it on, what an app is, how to text, and how to flip the camera to take a selfie, among other activities.

Janae Wheeler, an AARP community manager, has been giving these workshops since 2016, and has perfected her delivery. She suggests people open an app by pressing its icon “as nicely as you would tap a baby’s nose.” During the section on text messaging, she reminds the group not to “write a textbook in your text message” and advises that LOL “used to mean ‘lots of love,’ but doesn’t anymore.”

“We have an important goal of bridging the digital divide,” Wheeler told the group at the start of the day. “Being in tune with technology enables you to really connect with all the things and people you care about.”

It’s a comforting message, but the reality is more urgent. Although many older Americans have, like the rest of us, embraced the tools and playthings of the technology industry, a growing body of research shows they have disproportionately fallen prey to the dangers of internet misinformation and risk being further polarized by their online habits. While that matters much to them, it’s also a massive challenge for society given the outsize role older generations play in civic life, and demographic changes that are increasing their power and influence.

People 65 and older will soon make up the largest single age group in the United States, and will remain that way for decades to come, according to the US Census. This massive demographic shift is occurring when this age group is moving online and onto Facebook in droves, deeply struggling with digital literacy, and being targeted by a wide range of online bad actors who try to feed them fake news, infect their devices with malware, and steal their money in scams. Yet older people are largely being left out of what has become something of a golden age for digital literacy efforts.

Since the 2016 election, funding for digital literacy programs has skyrocketed. Apple just announced a major donation to the News Literacy Project and two related initiatives, and Facebook partners with similar organizations. But they primarily focus on younger demographics, even as the next presidential election grows closer.

This means the very people who struggle the most with digital information and technology risk being left to fend for themselves in an environment where they’re being targeted and exploited precisely because of their vulnerabilities.

Older people are also more likely to vote and to be politically active in other ways, such as making political contributions. They are wealthier and therefore wield tremendous economic power and all of the influence that comes with it. With more and more older people going online, and future 65-plus generations already there, the online behavior of older people, as well as their rising power, is incredibly important — yet often ignored.

Four recent studies found that older Americans are more likely to consume and share false online news than those in other age groups, even when controlling for factors such as partisanship. Other research has found that older Americans have a poor or inaccurate grasp of how algorithms play a role in selecting what information is shown to them on social media, are worse than younger people at differentiating between reported news and opinion, and are less likely to register the brand of a news site they consume information from.

Those digital and news consumption habits intersect with key characteristics of older Americans, such as being more likely to live in rural and isolated areas, and, perhaps in part as a result, to experience a high degree of loneliness. A survey conducted by AARP of Americans found that 36% of people ages 60–69 were lonely, while 24% of those ages 70 and older registered as lonely. (The survey focused on adults over 45.)

As a result, it’s now essential to better understand the effects of social media, loneliness, and a lack of digital literacy on older people, according to Vijeth Iyengar, a psychologist focused on aging at the US Department of Health and Human Services, and Dipayan Ghosh, a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School.

“With recent evidence that older adults are much more likely to disseminate fake news compared with their younger counterparts, coupled with the projected growth for this population segment in the decades to come, it is crucial to advance our understanding of the factors affecting the ways in which older adults engage with these platforms and how in turn these platforms are affecting how they function in society,” they wrote in a recent article for Scientific American.

Kevin Munger, a political scientist who studies the online habits of older Americans and their effect on politics, painted a stark image of the reality for many older Americans and their relationship with the internet.

“They’re alone, relatively wealthy, alienated, and stuck in places where they don’t know anybody and feel angry,” he said. “And they have access to the internet.”

The present and future of what the internet and social media look like with a massive population of extremely online seniors is unknown. But what’s clear is older Americans will become even more of an online force to be reckoned with — and no one is really sure what that will look like, or how to prepare for it.

Munger said the culture and content of the internet have historically been determined by an equation that roughly works out to the people who have access multiplied by those who have the most time to spend on it.

“In the next decade, it’s going to become way more old people,” he said.

Blame the boomers

“Older people are the forgotten generation — that’s why it’s important for us to learn stuff like this,” says Joshua Rascoe, 70, after the first AARP workshop wraps up.

Rascoe says he’s retired but spends time working with kids to teach them how to start a small business mowing lawns in order to save money and get ahead. He used Facebook for a previous business but said he’s wary of social media.

“I know how to Facebook and I know how to go to Instagram,” he says. But he needs to learn more because, his impression is, “about 80% of it is fake.” Rascoe just isn’t sure how to navigate around it.

As the day goes on, there are many aha moments in the room. A first selfie. The first time texting a photo. By the end, participants are ready to go online and try things. And that’s when they become targets, particularly on Facebook, which has seen massive growth in the number of older Americans joining the platform since 2011, according to data from Gallup. If there’s a sucker for fake news on Facebook, it’s easy to find them and feed them more.

Jestin Coler, who ran a network of websites that published completely false material about science, politics, and other topics, told BuzzFeed News that baby boomers were a key demographic for his sites because they “are absolutely more likely to share and consume fake news online, particularly on Facebook.”

“We did target older age groups when running ads, and I'm sure you will find the same with hyperpartisan publishers,” he said.

Coler’s firsthand experience is borne out by study after study, and not just when it comes to Facebook.

Research published in January found that “On average, users over 65 [on Facebook] shared nearly seven times as many articles from fake news domains as the youngest age group.” Similar findings have come from studies looking at the spread of false information on Twitter and at web browsing in general around the 2016 election.

“People over 60 or 65 seem to be especially prone to consuming and sharing fake news and online misinformation more generally,” Brendan Nyhan, a political science professor at the University of Michigan and a coauthor of one of the studies, told BuzzFeed News.

As Coler noted, boomers are also big consumers of content from hyperpartisan political Facebook pages, which drive huge engagement on the platform by stoking partisan passion via memes and articles. Nicole Hickman James spent years working for a publisher that ran both liberal and conservative hyperpartisan Facebook pages and associated websites. She says over time she tailored her articles to older readers because they were the most engaged audience.

“Like a popular post was always ‘X celebrity slams Trump.’ If that celeb was Jennifer Lawrence I wouldn’t do it because for the most part boomers either don’t know of her or care for her,” she told BuzzFeed News via a Twitter direct message. “But if Barbra Streisand says something that will always do well. I kind of think of what my own parents/grandparents would be interested in.”

James said a lot of the people who regularly commented on her stories on Facebook or reached out to her were older. When she would occasionally pitch in to help run her employer’s hyperpartisan conservative Facebook pages, she saw the same thing. “The commenters were the same, just on the other side of the aisle. Older, very partisan, etc. And the conservative engagement was always much higher,” she said in a Twitter direct message.

As with Coler’s fake news sites, these publishers create ads and target them at people older than 50 or 60. But even if they’re not trying to reach older people, they may still find their ads attracting eager older Facebook users. Turning Point USA, a non-profit conservative group focused on college students, was until very recently receiving the vast majority of engagement for its ads from older people on Facebook

Progressive activist Jordan Uhl highlighted this in February when he tweeted a series of screenshots showing the demographic data for Turning Point’s ads.

The Facebook ad archive shows that after Uhl’s viral tweets, Turning Point’s ads changed and began reaching young people, as one would expect for a student-focused group. Turning Point did not respond to a request for comment, but it seems the organization initially used criteria other than age to target its ads — and boomers just happened to be the most receptive demographic.

That’s also the case for Ami Horowitz, a conservative filmmaker who produces short video segments for Fox News and often appears as a guest. He’s been running multiple versions of an ad asking people to “LIKE if you agree” that the US needs to stop illegal immigration.

The versions viewed by BuzzFeed News in the Facebook ad archive primarily reached people older than 55, with those over 65 being the largest portion of audience. “I do not target any ages,” Horowitz told BuzzFeed News in a Facebook message.

That means his ads naturally appealed to older Facebook users. (It’s unclear what targeting criteria other than age Horowitz used for his ads, as he did not respond to follow up questions. Facebook declined to comment for this story.)

Anyone who clicks that Like button would automatically become a fan of Horowitz’s page, and possibly begin to see his content show up in their News Feed. Someone who is targeted by, and clicks on, many ads like these can end up with a Facebook profile like Betty Manlove’s. She’s a grandmother and great-grandmother featured in a PBS series about “junk news.”

Manlove has liked more than 1,400 Facebook pages, many of which are hyperpartisan conservative or religious. She recognized that her Facebook usage has become unhealthy in some ways. Manlove managed to quit smoking but confessed, “My other addiction is Facebook. I have lost hours on Facebook that I should have been doing other things.”

At least three of the pages she liked were run by the Russian trolls at the Internet Research Agency, and at least one is a fake conservative page run by a self-described liberal troll who targets conservatives with false stories and memes.

Cameron Hickey, her grandson, was a producer for the PBS series and noticed his grandmother’s liking and sharing habits when analyzing hyperpartisan Facebook pages for the show. When discussing her Facebook usage with BuzzFeed News, he mentioned that she had recently shared a meme from the fake conservative page, even though he’s tried to help her better navigate Facebook.

"Despite very specifically discussing these issues with my grandmother, she hasn't stopped liking and sharing things on the platform, and perhaps that is our fault — not spending more time with her," he said, adding “I love my grandma.”

That sense of frustration mixed with love and a tinge of guilt is familiar to many people. But there’s also a rising strain of resentment and anger being expressed publicly (often on Twitter by media insiders) toward boomers and Facebook, and what the two together have wrought.

“My current understanding of Facebook is that it's the place everyone goes out of necessity for news from the handful of groups they follow, and a handful of mostly boomers go to redpill themselves into believing utter nonsense,” tweeted Christopher Mims, a technology columnist for the Wall Street Journal.

“The evolution of Facebook from the hip thing Obamaites used to target young suckers into the scary thing Russians used to target old suckers has been fascinating to live through,” tweeted Sonny Bunch, executive editor of the Washington Free Beacon.

These sentiments are likely a byproduct of the fact that our current chaotic information environment is creating a historic gulf in the media habits between generations. People 25 and younger are heavy users of platforms such as Snapchat and Instagram and barely watch any traditional TV. Older Americans are more likely to use Facebook and watch traditional TV. People of all ages in the US are on Facebook, but younger people use it far less, and often cite the fact that their parents and grandparents are there as a reason to stay away.

But even with a growing amount of data showing how much older Americans struggle with digital literacy, it’s unfair to point the finger at one age group as the cause of informational rot on the internet, according to Andy Guess, an assistant professor of politics and public affairs at Princeton University, and the coauthor of a recent study about fake news consumption.

“It’s really easy to latch onto an explanation like that. And if it seems to really resonate with your experiences, that’s when you should stop and think, What am I missing?” he said.

Generational resentment also further isolates boomers, which compounds the problem.

“Seems like I see a lot of loneliness,” James said of the commenters she interacted with on liberal and conservative hyperpartisan Facebook pages.

Feelings of isolation and loneliness are important factors in the online behavior of older people. In their Scientific American article, Ghosh and Iyengar cited research that found loneliness can affect cognitive functions and physical and mental health, and can result in a decline in the ability to self-regulate.

“This constellation of behaviors, which broadly seeks to avoid conflict and minimize disappointment, may make these individuals prone to gravitating towards sources of information that mirror their own worldview thereby maintaining a sense of self,” they write.

That translates into online habits that could cause older people to unwittingly construct filter bubbles as they seek out contact and reinforcement for their worldview. It may also make them more vulnerable to elder scams and fraud, which have become an epidemic.

In early March, the Department of Justice announced “the largest coordinated sweep of elder fraud cases in history,” resulting in charges against more than 260 people “from around the globe who victimized more than two million Americans, most of them elderly.”

“Crimes against the elderly target some of the most vulnerable people in our society,” Attorney General Bill Barr said.

Steve Baker worked for the Federal Trade Commission for more than 30 years, specializing in investigating fraud and scams. He told BuzzFeed News that the Jamaican lottery fraud, which involves telling someone they won a cash prize and then asking them to pay a fee to collect it, specifically targets older people.

“With the Jamaican fraud, we know they’re not only getting tons of older people but they’re looking for older people to target,” he said.

Baker, who now runs a website and newsletter about frauds targeting older consumers, also said it’s common for older adults who’ve been scammed to genuinely not realize they’ve been ripped off, which makes it even easier on the crooks.

The DOJ announcement noted that it recently helped organize the first Rural and Tribal Elder Justice Summit in Iowa to help combat elder abuse and economic exploitation in these communities. Older Americans are more likely to live in rural communities and this can bring with it a sense of isolation that makes the internet seem like the best, or perhaps only, way to connect with others.

There is also another, delicate issue regarding older people and their interactions with digital information and technology. It’s something no one wants to talk about directly, least of all with their relatives, but it’s a reality of aging: cognitive decline. We are all susceptible to it, and it can come on suddenly or creep up over years. But once it has taken hold, it can drastically affect how you interact with the world.

Munger said there is a “phenomenon which is still somewhat rare but will be increasingly common of 90-year-olds on Facebook with limited cognitive capacity.”

“It’s sad and potentially very dangerous,” he said.

Aging out of the internet

Even boomers who have experience with computers and technology find themselves feeling a bit left behind. At the AARP workshop, Charles Robinson, 75, stood with his cane proudly wearing a Veterans of Foreign Wars hat. He took his iPhone out of his pocket and said he does everything on it, from paying bills to email. As he was speaking to a reporter, a text message arrived from this grandson asking whether Robinson had managed to get his home computer back up and running. He hadn’t, and the instructions sent by his grandson didn’t help.

“I don’t feel too confident about doing that he wants me to do. That’s why I called him,” Robinson said. “He says this sounds like a very simple problem. It sounds simple to him, you know, that’s fine.”

He and his wife, Jan (who winkingly gave her age as “70-plus”), are retired and have spent recent years traveling. They have college degrees and remain engaged in the world around them. But using technology is more of a struggle for them than it used to be.

“We both worked in the government and went to college, but the technology is still moving on no matter how many degrees you got, so we got to keep up with it somehow,” she said, noting that she was happy to have learned how to crop a photo.

“Years back when the computers came out, we were more savvy.”

Of course, those currently over 65 didn’t grow up using the internet or spend a large portion of their lives with it. But it will be different for people who will turn 65 in another 20 years, right?

Probably not, says Munger.

“The rate of change on the internet is going to increase, and the extent to which we have people in their mid-twenties who already feel alienated from people in their teens who experience the internet differently is only going to become more serious unless the internet itself stops changing so quickly,” he said.

An avid Facebooker in their forties may already be puzzled by TikTok, for example. And so it’s possible that today’s internet-savvy adults become tomorrow’s struggling seniors.

That means the question of how to help older people adapt to the internet and new digital environment isn’t just about supporting today’s seniors. Solutions have to anticipate and meet the digital literacy needs of the 65-pluses of the future. That’s difficult given that as of today, older people are largely left out of the digital literacy boom, and often struggle to get family members to help them.
“We have a child proof internet so the solution might well be a senior-proof internet.”

Munger says one response we might see to an increasingly older internet population would be for “tech companies and other established elites to take a paternalistic approach.”

“We have a childproof internet, so the solution might well be a senior-proof internet. But the point is, this won’t work because the seniors vote a lot and they do not want to be told what to do at all,” he says.

They also may not be interested in digital literacy classes if they aren’t framed properly. Coler, the former fake news publisher, said a senior center in his California town recently tried to hold a "Tips for Spotting Fake News" workshop. It was canceled due to a lack of interest.

“I think naming the class ‘Tips for Spotting Fake News’ was poorly planned—everyone thinks THEY can spot fake news, just not others,” he said in a Twitter direct message.

Munger says the starting point is to recognize that older people are justified in feeling they’re not being given proper support and understanding, and to meet them on their terms. That could mean more offerings like AARP’s workshops in a wide variety of areas, but also more research to understand how aging, social media, technology, and society intersect.

“I don’t really blame the older people at all. They have some actual legit grievances, and we’re going to have to figure out how to better integrate them in the future,” Munger said.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/old-and-online-fake-news-aging-population
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
“We have a childproof internet, so the solution might well be a senior-proof internet. But the point is, this won’t work because the seniors vote a lot and they do not want to be told what to do at all,” he says.

That's a 100% true statement in red. "Don't do as I do but do as I say" is the worse thing you can say or do to anyone regardless if they're a senior or a millennial. We're stubborn seniors....
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Buzzfeed???

I'd say the problem isn't anywhere near as bad as they make it out...

Buzzfeed BLOWS!
 

StarryEyedLad

désespéré pour le ciel
Buzzfeed???

I'd say the problem isn't anywhere near as bad as they make it out...

Buzzfeed BLOWS!

I know...Buzzfeed, one of the worst purveyors of fake news is worried about the aging population getting 'fake news'. The irony would be delicious if their intent were not so frighteningly vicious.

The mainstream Marxist media is so desperate to keep their stranglehold on the narrative that they are willing to have their readers (believers) go out and label everyone over 60, 50? as senile. Take away their laptops, smartphones, tablets...'old people' can't be trusted to discern the truth for themselves.

This is what we are facing: total control of thought and opinion being put into place. Older people are more vulnerable. Shut them up into their own homes or nursing homes and cut off their access to everything but 'approved' media.

That's what is coming.
 

The Mountain

Here since the beginning
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I clicked on this thread hoping that the article would be the opposite of what it turned out to be. My elderly mother and her husband both watch MSNBC and frequently spread its nonsense to Facebook. I had hoped for tips on subtly redpilling them.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
They forget that the Greatest Generation is dying out. The boomers invented the PC and the internet as well as the analog mobile phone.

If "wokeism" means seeing "Nazi dog calls" in an "OK" gesture, I'll pass, thank you. It is the Millennials who are triggered by MAGA hats and are banging heads over every living thing under the sun. Did you see the latest attack on de Caprio over misidentifying a Salvadorian food as Mexican? Or the claim of "cultural appropriation" for a Canadian designer to design and sell a silk night cap to cover long hair. (Supposedly stolen from blacks, when the "mob cap" has been around in Great Britain and the Americas for centuries.)

Smug virtue signaling and "woke scoldery" is just another way to feel better than thou and a member of the exclusive club of one's "betters."

The little snowflake social justice warriors need to grow tougher skin, learn critical thinking and f/o.

...and get off my lawn.
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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Another thing many seniors tend to do (and even a few here on TB) is post 2-5 year old real news as if it is a current news article. I have taught dozens of the older folks I know how and where to look for the original date of the article. Many of them admit that the headline of the article is what caught their eye so they shared or re-posted it simply based on that without reading the article in some cases and without noticing the article was years old.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Another thing many seniors tend to do (and even a few here on TB) is post 2-5 year old real news as if it is a current news article. I have taught dozens of the older folks I know how and where to look for the original date of the article. Many of them admit that the headline of the article is what caught their eye so they shared or re-posted it simply based on that without reading the article in some cases and without noticing the article was years old.

I'm no where near elderly and still managed to goof like this the other day. LOL. A polite note and closing the thread was a courtesy in my book. It happens.
 

JF&P

Deceased
I'm 72 Years old....I honestly don't know anyone older than me.....LOLOLOLOL

Additionally, I am further to the right than Attila the Hun....Yeah, I thought Barry Goldwater was a liberal....:D
 

ltd

Higher Ground
I'm 72 Years old....I honestly don't know anyone older than me.....LOLOLOLOL

Additionally, I am further to the right than Attila the Hun....Yeah, I thought Barry Goldwater was a liberal....:D

..... Thanks for the :laughup: ..... :sal:
 

Old Gringo

Senior Member
I'm 72 Years old....I honestly don't know anyone older than me.....LOLOLOLOL

Additionally, I am further to the right than Attila the Hun....Yeah, I thought Barry Goldwater was a liberal....

Now you do.... I'm 79.
Really you need to watch these old people. Who knows what they will do. Very serious issue when you are young and know it all
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
Buzzfeed? That's like a red flag to a bull to most posters here, a known quantity. However, its always good to keep abreast of what the kids have planned next for the oldsters. Thx for heads up.

E.t.a this goes hand in hand with the Maureen Dowd thread that a recent event she and panelists got taken to task for expensive shoes. That is one of their darlings and even she is 'too old, no longer relevant' to the Marxist agenda. That too follows past protocol as well. Definitely bears watching as its thinly veiled class based rhetoric
 

celtic-cat

Senior Member
The youngest adult generation has ALWAYS complained and whined that those "silly old people" just don't know what's going on these days. The saving grace is that those young'uns never actually have control over anything. Usually including themselves.

With very rare exceptions, the young are just mouthy little shits who don't know yet what they don't know.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
The youngest adult generation has ALWAYS complained and whined that those "silly old people" just don't know what's going on these days. The saving grace is that those young'uns never actually have control over anything. Usually including themselves.

With very rare exceptions, the young are just mouthy little shits who don't know yet what they don't know.

Heck, I deal with this in the meat world regularly....
 

jward

passin' thru
I know I see three d chess games where none exists.... sometimes.

I read this article as beginning steps of how to reeducate, shut down, defang, and overcome those last sources of opposing points of view. Or, as we like to call it, logic, critical thinking, history...

Leaves me chilled, for real. They're organized, they're educated on how to shame, change, and alter messages, and they're far more committed than are we.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Yeah right. Like it's just old people posting stupid stuff on social media. Social media is 99.999% stupid stuff...no matter who is posting it. High time people moved on.
 

Gercarson

Veteran Member
So . . . sounds like an opening for a "planned PARENT hood" type of solution to a HUGE problem. Oh my lord.
 

greenhart

Veteran Member
The youngest adult generation has ALWAYS complained and whined that those "silly old people" just don't know what's going on these days. The saving grace is that those young'uns never actually have control over anything. Usually including themselves.

With very rare exceptions, the young are just mouthy little shits who don't know yet what they don't know.

Unaltered Naked Truth!
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well, then the little shits can do their own laundry, buy their own groceries, cook for themselves, clean up their mess to my standard, keep the grass cut, take out the trash, help out with bigger projects and buy their own gas for their own vehicle they keep up... and THEN, perhaps, I'll deign to be lectured to by someone who believes their standard of truth is better than my own.

Pffffft!

They wouldn't have internet or social media without the boomers. And I believe human nature has consistently been unchanged all those years... as has truth.
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I know I see three d chess games where none exists.... sometimes.

I read this article as beginning steps of how to reeducate, shut down, defang, and overcome those last sources of opposing points of view. Or, as we like to call it, logic, critical thinking, history...

Leaves me chilled, for real. They're organized, they're educated on how to shame, change, and alter messages, and they're far more committed than are we.

I get up before sunrise on most days and work my tail off until past dark preparing for an Ice Age that "these little shits" refuse to see is coming at us like a train. I am too busy making lists, checking things done or purchased off my lists, and getting my garden put by to get ready for another deer season. Rinse and repeat.

I don't have time to be sickened or disturbed that the people running my country don't have the stones to round up all these commies and put them in camps to await their trials. The Constitution tells us to do this and so far, that's just a "G-ddamned piece of paper". Thank you, Mr. Bush. They have plenty of time to bang their keyboards and talk about how vile my race is and tear down the finest thing to come along in ten thousand years. All the time in the world for that.

I put my saddened and disturbed in the back of my mind and keep working with the sure assurance that one day if my research pans out, these shrieking harpies will freeze like Hatchet Jack and the silence will be glorious! Nature will take care of the problem that we were unable to.

I am old and wise and very determined. In my world, on my patch of ground, these ones control nothing.
 

Txkstew

Veteran Member
I'm tired of people who don't have their shit together, telling me I don't have my shit together.
 

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
So along with taking the car keys they will also take away the internet? Talk about thought police !

And they'll try to steal the older peoples money and their estates while they're still alive too, with the accusation that the elders have dementia.

So beware, the young ultra liberal in the family that wants the elder ultra conservative's money! V
 

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I'm tired of people who don't have their shit together, telling me I don't have my shit together.

Amen!

When I've heard this, I just look them straight in the eye (usually there's a crowd around but hey, they started it!) and say, "A Skunk Should Smell It's Own Hole First".

And just leave it at that.

The silence is hilarious as they try to compute as to what they just heard. Lol! V
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
They wouldn't have internet or social media without the boomers. And I believe human nature has consistently been unchanged all those years... as has truth.

This is what I was chortling about, too. Guess which generation invented the interweb, and went through their whole working career "growing" along with it?
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
WnT - and somehow we were able to figure out what was gossip, rumor and purely fabricated conspiracy all those years before they were born. Yep; look for another push to declare your oldsters "incompetent" - my trust and medical POA docs spell out just exactly how that can be done. And not just on one person's accusation, either. Not even just the assigned POA.
 

jward

passin' thru
I get up before sunrise on most days and work my tail off until past dark preparing for an Ice Age that "these little shits" refuse to see is coming at us like a train. I am too busy making lists, checking things done or purchased off my lists, and getting my garden put by to get ready for another deer season. Rinse and repeat.

I don't have time to be sickened or disturbed that the people running my country don't have the stones to round up all these commies and put them in camps to await their trials. The Constitution tells us to do this and so far, that's just a "G-ddamned piece of paper". Thank you, Mr. Bush. They have plenty of time to bang their keyboards and talk about how vile my race is and tear down the finest thing to come along in ten thousand years. All the time in the world for that.

I put my saddened and disturbed in the back of my mind and keep working with the sure assurance that one day if my research pans out, these shrieking harpies will freeze like Hatchet Jack and the silence will be glorious! Nature will take care of the problem that we were unable to.

I am old and wise and very determined. In my world, on my patch of ground, these ones control nothing.

That may be well and good for an individual old and wise person. The problem is the system pathways being created, in increments, to deal with old folks sharing false or extreme content.

The nascent efforts of today are laughable, and we're badazz kick azz chicks at the moment. Down the road, though, how entrenched will their viewpoints be? In the public square? In the rules of law that govern how many of our god given rights we're permitted to keep, and at what price we hold on to them?

How long before ms seeker is judged a clear and present danger to herself and the state steps in on one pretext or another?

The kids are young and stupid. We're old and stupid, though, if we think the kids are in charge of this dog and pony show.
Hardly. Just useful idiots doing the menial work for the things behind the screen IMO. Luckily, those folks are stupid too, so...
 

Scotto

Set Apart
Yeah right. Like it's just old people posting stupid stuff on social media. Social media is 99.999% stupid stuff...no matter who is posting it.

Tell me about it. How many memes have you seen that say "You're a genius if you can find the letter 'M' in all of these 'N's'." Or "Which container will fill up first?" Or the "Would you stay in this cabin in the woods with no TV or internet for a month for $100K?"

Or my personal favorite "Post this to your wall and tag me." No thanks on any of that $tup!d $h!t.
 

Ku Commando

Inactive
The TRUTH is IMMUTABLE.......there just ain't no way around that.


But for the libfags, truth is anathema


truth-is-hate-for-those-that-hate-the-truth.jpg
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
That may be well and good for an individual old and wise person. The problem is the system pathways being created, in increments, to deal with old folks sharing false or extreme content.

The nascent efforts of today are laughable, and we're badazz kick azz chicks at the moment. Down the road, though, how entrenched will their viewpoints be? In the public square? In the rules of law that govern how many of our god given rights we're permitted to keep, and at what price we hold on to them?

How long before ms seeker is judged a clear and present danger to herself and the state steps in on one pretext or another?

The kids are young and stupid. We're old and stupid, though, if we think the kids are in charge of this dog and pony show.
Hardly. Just useful idiots doing the menial work for the things behind the screen IMO. Luckily, those folks are stupid too, so...

Well, to me it's like this- we can't vote our way out, we can't redpill fast enough, and nobody wants to open the cartridge box. We are divided and will be easily conquered. So far, camps for commies aren't filling up.

So, my only recourse is just to keep working.
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
Well, then the little shits can do their own laundry, buy their own groceries, cook for themselves, clean up their mess to my standard, keep the grass cut, take out the trash, help out with bigger projects and buy their own gas for their own vehicle they keep up... and THEN, perhaps, I'll deign to be lectured to by someone who believes their standard of truth is better than my own.

Pffffft!

They wouldn't have internet or social media without the boomers. And I believe human nature has consistently been unchanged all those years... as has truth.

If my kids tried to take away the internet and keys, when the times comes for the Will and Trust to be read, they will $hit their pants with rage - at us, the ones they screwed over. When they get to the part that the dogs and cats will get our estate, they'll be over the top pissed. Good, go make your own way before *ucking with your elderly parents. I think my kids already know this so they wouldn't dare intervene with our affairs.
 
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