True confessions.....I have been buying preps and shoving them wherever they'll fit. Starting to get organized! Finally ventured into cubbyhole under the stairs (that I thought would not get too hot) and discovered quite a bit of spoiled food. Another lesson learned. Trying to decide what to put back in cubbyhole & yes, it's hard to access. Thinking toilet paper, paper towels, barter alcohol, seldom used big pots. Suggestions?
Yeah, that about covers it. If it doesn't get TOO hot, extra clothing (but not shoes- they break down) can go there. Paper goods like office paper or books, etc will turn yellow in heat after awhile. If it's perfectly dry, metal "prep" tools that aren't currently used or displayed like oil lamps (EMPTY) would be fine.
Blankets and pillows- but not latex or memory foam pillows- would work there.
Cases of empty canning jars- but not lids- would be ok.
Summerthyme
Blankets and pillows- but not latex or memory foam pillows- would work there.
Cases of empty canning jars- but not lids- would be ok.
Summerthyme
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if you have electronics secured in a portable Faraday cage it could be stashed in that area .....
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A tropical fish tank for interest.
Marthanoir
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Don't really have any warm areas, unless I'm running the range and then it's only the kitchen, bedrooms & living room, there's no radiators in the storage areas or under the stairs,
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Summer
Sometimes people think that a sumer power outage is easier to deal with than a winter one. After all, in the summer, you don’t have to worry about freezing to death, which is a very real threat during a long-lasting winter outage.
However, a summer power outage carries its own set of problems. Foremost are heat-related illnesses and the higher potential of spoilage for your food.
Even if you aren’t convinced that hardcore preparedness is for you, it would still be difficult to argue against the possibility of a disaster that takes out the power for a couple of weeks. Basic emergency preparedenss is important for everyone, not just us “crazy preppers.”
Just ask the people who lived through the Derecho of 2012 how unpleasant it was. Severe, fast-moving thunderstorms (called derechos) swept through Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, and Washington DC. Millions lost power, an estimated 4 million for an entire week. As if a week-long power outage wasn’t miserable enough, that part of the country was in the midst of a record-setting heatwave during the time period.
Also keep in mind that summer stresses our fragile power grid to the max, as everyone increases their usage of electricity to try and keep cool with air conditioners and fans. This ups the chances of an outage even when there’s not a cloud in the sky.
Back in 2003, a software bug caused an extremely widespread power outage in the middle of August. It was a very hot day, and increased energy demand overloaded the system. Because of the issue with the software, engineers were not alerted of this, and what should have been a small local outage turned into an event that took out power for over 10 million Canadians and 45 million Americans. I remember this one clearly because the little sub shop beside my workplace gave away all the perishable food that they had out at the time before it spoiled and I took home fresh sandwiches for my girls’ dinner that night. We sweated uncomfortably through the next two days until the power was restored.
Beware of dehydration and heat-related illnesses
On of the most serious concerns that sets apart a summer power outage from that of other times of the year is the heat. When you don’t have so much as a fan to move the air around, heat-related illnesses and dehydration are strong possibilities. From my book, The Prepper’s Water Survival Guide, here’s an excerpt from the chapter on dehydration:
Dehydration is the state that occurs when you use or lose more fluid than you take in, and your body doesn’t have enough water and other fluids to carry out its normal functions. Your electrolytes are out of balance., which can lead to increasingly serious problems.
Symptoms of electrolyte imbalances include dizziness, fatigue, nausea (with or without vomiting), constipation, dry mouth, dry skin, muscle weakness, stiff or aching joints, confusion, delirium, rapid heart rate, twitching, blood pressure changes, seizures, and convulsions.
Dehydration can lead to very serious side effects, including death.
Following are the most common dehydration-related ailments.
Heat cramps: Heat cramps are painful, brief muscle cramps. Muscles may spasm or jerk involuntarily. Heat cramps can occur during exercise or work in a hot environment or begin a few hours following such activities.
Heat exhaustion: Often accompanied by dehydration, heat exhaustion is a heat-related illness that can occur after you’ve been exposed to high temperatures.
There are two types of heat exhaustion:
Water depletion. Signs include excessive thirst, weakness, headache, and loss of consciousness.
Salt depletion. Signs include nausea and vomiting, muscle cramps, and dizziness.
Heat stroke: Heat stroke is the most serious form of heat injury and is considered a medical emergency. Heat stroke results from prolonged exposure to high temperatures—usually in combination with dehydration—which leads to failure of the body’s temperature control system. The medical definition of heat stroke is a core body temperature greater than 105°F, with complications involving the central nervous system that occur after exposure to high temperatures. Other common symptoms include nausea, seizures, confusion, disorientation, and, sometimes, loss of consciousness or coma.
Dehydration can lead to other potentially lethal complications. The Mayo Clinic offers the following examples:
Seizures: Electrolytes—such as potassium and sodium—help carry electrical signals from cell to cell. If your electrolytes are out of balance, the normal electrical messages can become mixed up, which can lead to involuntary muscle contractions, and, sometimes, loss of consciousness.
Low blood volume (hypovolemic shock): This is one of the most serious, and sometimes life-threatening, complications of dehydration. It occurs when low blood volume causes a drop in blood pressure and a drop in the amount of oxygen in your body.
Swelling of the brain (cerebral edema): Sometimes, when you’re taking in fluids again after being dehydrated, the body tries to pull too much water back into your cells. This can cause some cells to swell and rupture. The consequences are especially grave when brain cells are affected.
Kidney failure: This potentially life-threatening problem occurs when your kidneys are no longer able to remove excess fluids and waste from your blood.
Coma and death: When not treated promptly and appropriately, severe dehydration can be fatal.
How to Treat Dehydration
People who are suffering from dehydration must replace fluids and electrolytes. The most common way to do this is through oral rehydration therapy (ORT). In extreme cases, fluids must be given intravenously. In a disaster situation, hospitals may not be readily available, so every effort should be made to prevent the situation from reaching that level of severity.
Humans cannot survive without electrolytes, which are minerals in your blood and other bodily fluids that carry an electric charge. They are important because they are what your cells (especially those in your nerves, heart, and muscles) use to maintain voltages across cell membranes and to carry electrical impulses (nerve impulses and muscle contractions) across themselves and to other cells. Electrolytes, especially sodium, also help your body maintain its water balance.
Water itself does not contain electrolytes, but dehydration can cause serious electrolyte imbalances.
In most situations, avoid giving the dehydrated person salt tablets. Fresh, cool water is the best cure. In extreme temperatures or after very strenuous activities, electrolyte replacement drinks can be given. Sports drinks such as Gatorade can help replenish lost electrolytes. For children, rehydration beverages like Pedialyte can be helpful. (Source)
For electrolyte replacement, Tess Pennington offers these recipes for DIY rehydration powders that you can add to drinks.
Store lots of water
One of the best ways to avoid the heat-related problems above is to store lots of water.
You can’t always rely on the faucet in the kitchen. In the event of a disaster, the water may not run from the taps, and if it does, it might not be safe to drink, depending on the situation. If there is a boil order in place, remember that if the power is out, boiling your water may not be as easy as turning on your stove. If you are on a well and don’t have a back-up in place, you won’t have running water.
Each family should store a two week supply of water. The rule of thumb for drinking water is 1 gallon per day, per person. Don’t forget to stock water for your pets, also.
You can create your water supply very inexpensively. Many people use clean 2 liter soda pop bottles to store tap water. Others purchase the large 5 gallon jugs of filtered water from the grocery store and use them with a top-loading water dispenser. Consider a gravity fed water filtration device and water purification tablets as well.
Because water is kind of my thing lately, you can find lots more information on this topic HERE.
Try to keep cool during the blackout
This is easier said than done when it’s 105 and you can’t even run a fan.
I’m not a big user of air-conditioning, so I recently wrote an article about staying cool without it. Be sure to check it out HERE – there are some suggestions on keeping your house cool naturally that will help in the event of a power outage.
Here’s an excerpt from the article with some tips for keeping cool when the grid is down:
Channel your inner Southern belle. Slowly fan yourself with a handheld fan. Mint juleps are optional.
Keep hydrated. Your body needs the extra water to help produce sweat, which cools you off.
Change your schedule. There’s a reason that people who live near the equator close down their businesses and enjoy a midday siesta. Take a tepid shower and then, without drying off, lay down and try to take a nap. At the very least, do a quiet activity.
Play in the water. Either place a kiddie pool in a shaded part of the yard or use the bathtub indoors. Find a nearby creek or pond for wading or swimming. (Note: Playing in the water isn’t just for kids!)
Soak your feet. A foot bath full of tepid water can help cool you down.
Avoid heavy meals. Your body has to work hard to digest heavy, rich meals, and this raises your temperature. Be gentle on your system with light, cool meals like salads, cold soups, and fruit.
Make sure your screens are in good condition. You’re going to need to have your windows open, but fighting off insects when you’re trying to sleep is a miserable and frustrating endeavor.
Be very conscious of food safety
If a power outage lasts for more than 4 hours, you need to err on the side of caution with regard to refrigerated and frozen food. Coolers can help – you can put your most expensive perishables in a cooler and fill it with ice from the freezer to extend its lifespan. Whatever you do, don’t open the doors to the refrigerator and freezer. This will help it to maintain a cooler temperature for a longer time.
According to the Red Cross, if your freezer is half-filled and is not opened the entire time that the power is out, the food in it will remain sufficiently frozen for up to 24 hours. If it is completely filled, your food should remain safe for up to 48 hours. If the worst happens and your freezer full of meat does spoil, keep in mind that most homeowner’s and renter’s insurance policies will pay for their replacement, but unless you’ve lost a whole lot or your deductible is very small, it may not be worth making a claim.
I strongly recommend the purchase of a digital, instant-read thermometer. This has many kitchen uses, but in the event of a disaster is worth its weight in gold for determining food safety. I have THIS ONE and at the time of posting, it was less than $10. You can use your thermometer with this chart (print it out so you have it on hand in the event of a down-grid emergency) to determine the safety of your food. (The chart is from FoodSafety.gov)
Food Categories Specific Foods Held above 40 °F for over 2 hours
MEAT, POULTRY, SEAFOOD Raw or leftover cooked meat, poultry, fish, or seafood; soy meat substitutes Discard
Thawing meat or poultry Discard
Salads: Meat, tuna, shrimp, chicken, or egg salad Discard
Gravy, stuffing, broth Discard
Lunchmeats, hot dogs, bacon, sausage, dried beef Discard
Pizza – with any topping Discard
Canned hams labeled “Keep Refrigerated” Discard
Canned meats and fish, opened Discard
Casseroles, soups, stews Discard
CHEESE Soft Cheeses: blue/bleu, Roquefort, Brie, Camembert, cottage, cream, Edam, Monterey Jack, ricotta, mozzarella, Muenster, Neufchatel, queso blanco, queso fresco Discard
Hard Cheeses: Cheddar, Colby, Swiss, Parmesan, provolone, Romano Safe
Processed Cheeses Safe
Shredded Cheeses Discard
Low-fat Cheeses Discard
Grated Parmesan, Romano, or combination (in can or jar) Safe
DAIRY Milk, cream, sour cream, buttermilk, evaporated milk, yogurt, eggnog, soy milk Discard
Butter, margarine Safe
Baby formula, opened Discard
EGGS Fresh eggs, hard-cooked in shell, egg dishes, egg products Discard
Custards and puddings, quiche Discard
FRUITS Fresh fruits, cut Discard
Fruit juices, opened Safe
Canned fruits, opened Safe
Fresh fruits, coconut, raisins, dried fruits, candied fruits, dates Safe
SAUCES, SPREADS, JAMS Opened mayonnaise, tartar sauce, horseradish Discard if above 50 °F for over 8 hrs.
Peanut butter Safe
Jelly, relish, taco sauce, mustard, catsup, olives, pickles Safe
Worcestershire, soy, barbecue, hoisin sauces Safe
Fish sauces, oyster sauce Discard
Opened vinegar-based dressings Safe
Opened creamy-based dressings Discard
Spaghetti sauce, opened jar Discard
BREAD, CAKES, COOKIES, PASTA, GRAINS Bread, rolls, cakes, muffins, quick breads, tortillas Safe
Refrigerator biscuits, rolls, cookie dough Discard
Cooked pasta, rice, potatoes Discard
Pasta salads with mayonnaise or vinaigrette Discard
Fresh pasta Discard
Cheesecake Discard
Breakfast foods –waffles, pancakes, bagels Safe
PIES, PASTRY Pastries, cream filled Discard
Pies – custard, cheese filled, or chiffon; quiche Discard
Pies, fruit Safe
VEGETABLES Fresh mushrooms, herbs, spices Safe
Greens, pre-cut, pre-washed, packaged Discard
Vegetables, raw Safe
Vegetables, cooked; tofu Discard
Vegetable juice, opened Discard
Baked potatoes Discard
Commercial garlic in oil Discard
Potato salad Discard
Casseroles, soups, stews Discard
Another way to combat the potential losses of a long-term sumer power outage is to use other methods for preserving your feed. Canning and dehydration are not grid-dependent and can save you a whole lot of money and prevent a mess of rotting meat in your freezer.
If a power-outage looks like it’s going to be lasting for quite some time, you can be proactive if you have canning supplies on hand and a propane burner, and you can pressure can your meat outdoors to preserve it. (Here’s how to pressure can roasts and chicken.) If you decide to get one, THIS PROPANE BURNER is probably the closest one to a kitchen stove out there. It works well for keeping your product cooking at a steady temperature. Don’t cheap out on this purchase, or you will stand there in front of this burner for a long, frustrating time and still end up with food that has not been canned safely. Be very careful to supervise the canning pot: you don’t want the pressure to drop to an unsafe level and you want to keep kids and pets away from this project. Added bonus – when you have a propane burner like this, the sky is the limit as far as cooking in a power outage.
Some stuff is the same as prepping for any other power outage
Many preparedness concerns are the same, no matter what time of the year your power outage occurs. Here are some of the basic things you need for any power outage:
Food and a way to prepare it
There are two schools of thought regarding food during a power outage. One: you need a cooking method that does not require the grid to be functioning. Two: you can store food that doesn’t require cooking.
If you opt for a secondary cooking method, be sure that you have enough fuel for two weeks. Store foods that do not require long cooking times – for example, dried beans would use a great deal of fuel, but canned beans could be warmed up, or even eaten cold. In the summer you don’t want to rely on a cooking method that heats up your house, so look to things like outdoor barbecues or solar cookers.
Learn more about building your pantry HERE.
Click HERE for a short term food storage list
Click HERE to find a list of meals that require no cooking.
Sanitation needs
A common cause of illness, and even death, during a down-grid situation is lack of sanitation.
For cleaning, reduce your need to wash things. Stock up on paper plates, paper towels, and disposable cups and flatware. Keep some disinfecting cleaning wipes and sprays (I don’t recommend using antibacterial products on a regular basis, however in the event of an emergency they can help to keep you healthy.) Use hand sanitizer after using the bathroom and before handling food or beverages – there may be a lot more germs afoot in a disaster.
Look at your options for sanitation. Does your toilet still flush when the electricity is out? Many people discovered the hard way that the toilets didn’t work when the sewage backed up in the highrises in New York City in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy. At our cabin, the toilet won’t flush without power because the pump is electric.
If you are on a septic system, with no risk of the toilet backing up into the house, simply store some water for flushing in the bathroom. (At the first sign of a storm, we always fill the bathtub for this purpose.) Add the water to the tank so that you can flush.
If this is not an option, check out THIS ARTICLE, which explains how to take care of potty needs if the toilet won’t flush and you live somewhere that you can’t just go out in the back 40 to do your business.
Light
Lighting is absolutely vital, especially if there are children in the house. Nothing is more frightening than being completely in the dark during a stressful situation. Fortunately, it’s one of the easiest things to plan for, as well as one of the least expensive.
Some lighting solutions are:
Garden stake solar lights
Flashlights (don’t forget batteries)
Hand crank/solar lantern
Other options are long-burning candles or kerosene lamps, but during a summer outage they would be less desirable, since they add heat to an already overly warm situation.
Tools and supplies
Some basic items will make your life much easier during an emergency. Here are some things that are essential in the event of a power outage:
Lighter/waterproof matches
Batteries in various sizes
Manual can opener
Basic tools: Pliers, screwdriver, wrench, hammer
Duct tape
Super glue
Sewing kit
Bungee cords
If you’d like to expand on the basic supplies, a more detailed list of tools and hardware can be found HERE.
First Aid kit
It’s important to have a basic first aid kit on hand at all times, but particularly in the event of an emergency. Your kit should include basic wound care items like bandages, antibiotic ointments, and sprays. As well, if you use them, keep on hand a supply of basic over-the-counter medications, like pain relief capsules, cold medicine, cough syrup, anti-nausea pills, and allergy medication.
If you want to put together a more advanced medical kit, you can find a list HERE.
Special needs
This is something that will be unique to every family. Consider the things that are needed on a daily basis in your household. It might be prescription medications, diapers, or special foods. If you have pets, you’ll need supplies for them too. The best way to figure out what you need is to jot things down as you use them over the course of a week or so.
Entertainment
Nothing grates on a parent’s nerves more than a refrain of, “I’m boooooredddd.” Many kids are accustomed to almost-constant electronic entertainment, so the loss of that can be quite stressful.
Keep a box of off-grid entertainment supplies in an easy-to-access place. Make one up for the different members of the family and make these items things that the kids are not allowed to play with at any other time so that they are novel and interesting when the time comes to use them. Include things like stationary supplies, notebooks, pens and pencils, sharpeners, colors or coloring pencils, markers, glue sticks, glitter, puzzles, activity books, games, stickers…make it a treasure trove! Be sure you include all of the supplies needed for each activity because it’s hard to find things when your home is only lit by candlelight.
Stock up on what you need for these fun activities before the next grid-down scenario:
Shadow puppets
Books
Hide and Seek
Telling stories – kids are especially engaged with chain stories
Reading aloud
Flashlight hide and seek
Flashlight tag
Guess the shadow
Toys that do not need batteries, like dollhouses and kitchens, dinky cars, and floor
Make your house an obstacle course. A way to run around, roll over beds, etc to get some energy out.
Card games
Coloring
Board games
Arts and crafts
Send them out side, weather permitting. If the water is running, turn on sprinklers or fill a kiddie pool to help them stay cool.
Imagination games like playing house, cops and robbers, don’t step in the lava, camping in the wilderness
Put on a play
Play dress-up
Collect song books and have a sing-along in front of the fire
Play music together (piano, makeshift drums, harmonica, spoons, castanets, etc.)
Make puppets and put on a puppet show
Get out those old photos and finally assemble them in scrapbooks
Play word games like Hangman
Playing old games like jacks, pick-up sticks, and tumbling towers
Play with building toys like blocks, Lincoln Logs, or Lego
Believe it or not, sometimes power outages can be fun.
Any other suggestions for a summer power outage?
Have you been through a summer power outages that lasted longer than a couple of hours? Do you have some suggestions to add? Please share the in the comments section below.
http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/how-to-prep-for-a-summer-power-outage-07022015
Sometimes people think that a sumer power outage is easier to deal with than a winter one. After all, in the summer, you don’t have to worry about freezing to death, which is a very real threat during a long-lasting winter outage.
However, a summer power outage carries its own set of problems. Foremost are heat-related illnesses and the higher potential of spoilage for your food.
Even if you aren’t convinced that hardcore preparedness is for you, it would still be difficult to argue against the possibility of a disaster that takes out the power for a couple of weeks. Basic emergency preparedenss is important for everyone, not just us “crazy preppers.”
Just ask the people who lived through the Derecho of 2012 how unpleasant it was. Severe, fast-moving thunderstorms (called derechos) swept through Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, and Washington DC. Millions lost power, an estimated 4 million for an entire week. As if a week-long power outage wasn’t miserable enough, that part of the country was in the midst of a record-setting heatwave during the time period.
Also keep in mind that summer stresses our fragile power grid to the max, as everyone increases their usage of electricity to try and keep cool with air conditioners and fans. This ups the chances of an outage even when there’s not a cloud in the sky.
Back in 2003, a software bug caused an extremely widespread power outage in the middle of August. It was a very hot day, and increased energy demand overloaded the system. Because of the issue with the software, engineers were not alerted of this, and what should have been a small local outage turned into an event that took out power for over 10 million Canadians and 45 million Americans. I remember this one clearly because the little sub shop beside my workplace gave away all the perishable food that they had out at the time before it spoiled and I took home fresh sandwiches for my girls’ dinner that night. We sweated uncomfortably through the next two days until the power was restored.
Beware of dehydration and heat-related illnesses
On of the most serious concerns that sets apart a summer power outage from that of other times of the year is the heat. When you don’t have so much as a fan to move the air around, heat-related illnesses and dehydration are strong possibilities. From my book, The Prepper’s Water Survival Guide, here’s an excerpt from the chapter on dehydration:
Dehydration is the state that occurs when you use or lose more fluid than you take in, and your body doesn’t have enough water and other fluids to carry out its normal functions. Your electrolytes are out of balance., which can lead to increasingly serious problems.
Symptoms of electrolyte imbalances include dizziness, fatigue, nausea (with or without vomiting), constipation, dry mouth, dry skin, muscle weakness, stiff or aching joints, confusion, delirium, rapid heart rate, twitching, blood pressure changes, seizures, and convulsions.
Dehydration can lead to very serious side effects, including death.
Following are the most common dehydration-related ailments.
Heat cramps: Heat cramps are painful, brief muscle cramps. Muscles may spasm or jerk involuntarily. Heat cramps can occur during exercise or work in a hot environment or begin a few hours following such activities.
Heat exhaustion: Often accompanied by dehydration, heat exhaustion is a heat-related illness that can occur after you’ve been exposed to high temperatures.
There are two types of heat exhaustion:
Water depletion. Signs include excessive thirst, weakness, headache, and loss of consciousness.
Salt depletion. Signs include nausea and vomiting, muscle cramps, and dizziness.
Heat stroke: Heat stroke is the most serious form of heat injury and is considered a medical emergency. Heat stroke results from prolonged exposure to high temperatures—usually in combination with dehydration—which leads to failure of the body’s temperature control system. The medical definition of heat stroke is a core body temperature greater than 105°F, with complications involving the central nervous system that occur after exposure to high temperatures. Other common symptoms include nausea, seizures, confusion, disorientation, and, sometimes, loss of consciousness or coma.
Dehydration can lead to other potentially lethal complications. The Mayo Clinic offers the following examples:
Seizures: Electrolytes—such as potassium and sodium—help carry electrical signals from cell to cell. If your electrolytes are out of balance, the normal electrical messages can become mixed up, which can lead to involuntary muscle contractions, and, sometimes, loss of consciousness.
Low blood volume (hypovolemic shock): This is one of the most serious, and sometimes life-threatening, complications of dehydration. It occurs when low blood volume causes a drop in blood pressure and a drop in the amount of oxygen in your body.
Swelling of the brain (cerebral edema): Sometimes, when you’re taking in fluids again after being dehydrated, the body tries to pull too much water back into your cells. This can cause some cells to swell and rupture. The consequences are especially grave when brain cells are affected.
Kidney failure: This potentially life-threatening problem occurs when your kidneys are no longer able to remove excess fluids and waste from your blood.
Coma and death: When not treated promptly and appropriately, severe dehydration can be fatal.
How to Treat Dehydration
People who are suffering from dehydration must replace fluids and electrolytes. The most common way to do this is through oral rehydration therapy (ORT). In extreme cases, fluids must be given intravenously. In a disaster situation, hospitals may not be readily available, so every effort should be made to prevent the situation from reaching that level of severity.
Humans cannot survive without electrolytes, which are minerals in your blood and other bodily fluids that carry an electric charge. They are important because they are what your cells (especially those in your nerves, heart, and muscles) use to maintain voltages across cell membranes and to carry electrical impulses (nerve impulses and muscle contractions) across themselves and to other cells. Electrolytes, especially sodium, also help your body maintain its water balance.
Water itself does not contain electrolytes, but dehydration can cause serious electrolyte imbalances.
In most situations, avoid giving the dehydrated person salt tablets. Fresh, cool water is the best cure. In extreme temperatures or after very strenuous activities, electrolyte replacement drinks can be given. Sports drinks such as Gatorade can help replenish lost electrolytes. For children, rehydration beverages like Pedialyte can be helpful. (Source)
For electrolyte replacement, Tess Pennington offers these recipes for DIY rehydration powders that you can add to drinks.
Store lots of water
One of the best ways to avoid the heat-related problems above is to store lots of water.
You can’t always rely on the faucet in the kitchen. In the event of a disaster, the water may not run from the taps, and if it does, it might not be safe to drink, depending on the situation. If there is a boil order in place, remember that if the power is out, boiling your water may not be as easy as turning on your stove. If you are on a well and don’t have a back-up in place, you won’t have running water.
Each family should store a two week supply of water. The rule of thumb for drinking water is 1 gallon per day, per person. Don’t forget to stock water for your pets, also.
You can create your water supply very inexpensively. Many people use clean 2 liter soda pop bottles to store tap water. Others purchase the large 5 gallon jugs of filtered water from the grocery store and use them with a top-loading water dispenser. Consider a gravity fed water filtration device and water purification tablets as well.
Because water is kind of my thing lately, you can find lots more information on this topic HERE.
Try to keep cool during the blackout
This is easier said than done when it’s 105 and you can’t even run a fan.
I’m not a big user of air-conditioning, so I recently wrote an article about staying cool without it. Be sure to check it out HERE – there are some suggestions on keeping your house cool naturally that will help in the event of a power outage.
Here’s an excerpt from the article with some tips for keeping cool when the grid is down:
Channel your inner Southern belle. Slowly fan yourself with a handheld fan. Mint juleps are optional.
Keep hydrated. Your body needs the extra water to help produce sweat, which cools you off.
Change your schedule. There’s a reason that people who live near the equator close down their businesses and enjoy a midday siesta. Take a tepid shower and then, without drying off, lay down and try to take a nap. At the very least, do a quiet activity.
Play in the water. Either place a kiddie pool in a shaded part of the yard or use the bathtub indoors. Find a nearby creek or pond for wading or swimming. (Note: Playing in the water isn’t just for kids!)
Soak your feet. A foot bath full of tepid water can help cool you down.
Avoid heavy meals. Your body has to work hard to digest heavy, rich meals, and this raises your temperature. Be gentle on your system with light, cool meals like salads, cold soups, and fruit.
Make sure your screens are in good condition. You’re going to need to have your windows open, but fighting off insects when you’re trying to sleep is a miserable and frustrating endeavor.
Be very conscious of food safety
If a power outage lasts for more than 4 hours, you need to err on the side of caution with regard to refrigerated and frozen food. Coolers can help – you can put your most expensive perishables in a cooler and fill it with ice from the freezer to extend its lifespan. Whatever you do, don’t open the doors to the refrigerator and freezer. This will help it to maintain a cooler temperature for a longer time.
According to the Red Cross, if your freezer is half-filled and is not opened the entire time that the power is out, the food in it will remain sufficiently frozen for up to 24 hours. If it is completely filled, your food should remain safe for up to 48 hours. If the worst happens and your freezer full of meat does spoil, keep in mind that most homeowner’s and renter’s insurance policies will pay for their replacement, but unless you’ve lost a whole lot or your deductible is very small, it may not be worth making a claim.
I strongly recommend the purchase of a digital, instant-read thermometer. This has many kitchen uses, but in the event of a disaster is worth its weight in gold for determining food safety. I have THIS ONE and at the time of posting, it was less than $10. You can use your thermometer with this chart (print it out so you have it on hand in the event of a down-grid emergency) to determine the safety of your food. (The chart is from FoodSafety.gov)
Food Categories Specific Foods Held above 40 °F for over 2 hours
MEAT, POULTRY, SEAFOOD Raw or leftover cooked meat, poultry, fish, or seafood; soy meat substitutes Discard
Thawing meat or poultry Discard
Salads: Meat, tuna, shrimp, chicken, or egg salad Discard
Gravy, stuffing, broth Discard
Lunchmeats, hot dogs, bacon, sausage, dried beef Discard
Pizza – with any topping Discard
Canned hams labeled “Keep Refrigerated” Discard
Canned meats and fish, opened Discard
Casseroles, soups, stews Discard
CHEESE Soft Cheeses: blue/bleu, Roquefort, Brie, Camembert, cottage, cream, Edam, Monterey Jack, ricotta, mozzarella, Muenster, Neufchatel, queso blanco, queso fresco Discard
Hard Cheeses: Cheddar, Colby, Swiss, Parmesan, provolone, Romano Safe
Processed Cheeses Safe
Shredded Cheeses Discard
Low-fat Cheeses Discard
Grated Parmesan, Romano, or combination (in can or jar) Safe
DAIRY Milk, cream, sour cream, buttermilk, evaporated milk, yogurt, eggnog, soy milk Discard
Butter, margarine Safe
Baby formula, opened Discard
EGGS Fresh eggs, hard-cooked in shell, egg dishes, egg products Discard
Custards and puddings, quiche Discard
FRUITS Fresh fruits, cut Discard
Fruit juices, opened Safe
Canned fruits, opened Safe
Fresh fruits, coconut, raisins, dried fruits, candied fruits, dates Safe
SAUCES, SPREADS, JAMS Opened mayonnaise, tartar sauce, horseradish Discard if above 50 °F for over 8 hrs.
Peanut butter Safe
Jelly, relish, taco sauce, mustard, catsup, olives, pickles Safe
Worcestershire, soy, barbecue, hoisin sauces Safe
Fish sauces, oyster sauce Discard
Opened vinegar-based dressings Safe
Opened creamy-based dressings Discard
Spaghetti sauce, opened jar Discard
BREAD, CAKES, COOKIES, PASTA, GRAINS Bread, rolls, cakes, muffins, quick breads, tortillas Safe
Refrigerator biscuits, rolls, cookie dough Discard
Cooked pasta, rice, potatoes Discard
Pasta salads with mayonnaise or vinaigrette Discard
Fresh pasta Discard
Cheesecake Discard
Breakfast foods –waffles, pancakes, bagels Safe
PIES, PASTRY Pastries, cream filled Discard
Pies – custard, cheese filled, or chiffon; quiche Discard
Pies, fruit Safe
VEGETABLES Fresh mushrooms, herbs, spices Safe
Greens, pre-cut, pre-washed, packaged Discard
Vegetables, raw Safe
Vegetables, cooked; tofu Discard
Vegetable juice, opened Discard
Baked potatoes Discard
Commercial garlic in oil Discard
Potato salad Discard
Casseroles, soups, stews Discard
Another way to combat the potential losses of a long-term sumer power outage is to use other methods for preserving your feed. Canning and dehydration are not grid-dependent and can save you a whole lot of money and prevent a mess of rotting meat in your freezer.
If a power-outage looks like it’s going to be lasting for quite some time, you can be proactive if you have canning supplies on hand and a propane burner, and you can pressure can your meat outdoors to preserve it. (Here’s how to pressure can roasts and chicken.) If you decide to get one, THIS PROPANE BURNER is probably the closest one to a kitchen stove out there. It works well for keeping your product cooking at a steady temperature. Don’t cheap out on this purchase, or you will stand there in front of this burner for a long, frustrating time and still end up with food that has not been canned safely. Be very careful to supervise the canning pot: you don’t want the pressure to drop to an unsafe level and you want to keep kids and pets away from this project. Added bonus – when you have a propane burner like this, the sky is the limit as far as cooking in a power outage.
Some stuff is the same as prepping for any other power outage
Many preparedness concerns are the same, no matter what time of the year your power outage occurs. Here are some of the basic things you need for any power outage:
Food and a way to prepare it
There are two schools of thought regarding food during a power outage. One: you need a cooking method that does not require the grid to be functioning. Two: you can store food that doesn’t require cooking.
If you opt for a secondary cooking method, be sure that you have enough fuel for two weeks. Store foods that do not require long cooking times – for example, dried beans would use a great deal of fuel, but canned beans could be warmed up, or even eaten cold. In the summer you don’t want to rely on a cooking method that heats up your house, so look to things like outdoor barbecues or solar cookers.
Learn more about building your pantry HERE.
Click HERE for a short term food storage list
Click HERE to find a list of meals that require no cooking.
Sanitation needs
A common cause of illness, and even death, during a down-grid situation is lack of sanitation.
For cleaning, reduce your need to wash things. Stock up on paper plates, paper towels, and disposable cups and flatware. Keep some disinfecting cleaning wipes and sprays (I don’t recommend using antibacterial products on a regular basis, however in the event of an emergency they can help to keep you healthy.) Use hand sanitizer after using the bathroom and before handling food or beverages – there may be a lot more germs afoot in a disaster.
Look at your options for sanitation. Does your toilet still flush when the electricity is out? Many people discovered the hard way that the toilets didn’t work when the sewage backed up in the highrises in New York City in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy. At our cabin, the toilet won’t flush without power because the pump is electric.
If you are on a septic system, with no risk of the toilet backing up into the house, simply store some water for flushing in the bathroom. (At the first sign of a storm, we always fill the bathtub for this purpose.) Add the water to the tank so that you can flush.
If this is not an option, check out THIS ARTICLE, which explains how to take care of potty needs if the toilet won’t flush and you live somewhere that you can’t just go out in the back 40 to do your business.
Light
Lighting is absolutely vital, especially if there are children in the house. Nothing is more frightening than being completely in the dark during a stressful situation. Fortunately, it’s one of the easiest things to plan for, as well as one of the least expensive.
Some lighting solutions are:
Garden stake solar lights
Flashlights (don’t forget batteries)
Hand crank/solar lantern
Other options are long-burning candles or kerosene lamps, but during a summer outage they would be less desirable, since they add heat to an already overly warm situation.
Tools and supplies
Some basic items will make your life much easier during an emergency. Here are some things that are essential in the event of a power outage:
Lighter/waterproof matches
Batteries in various sizes
Manual can opener
Basic tools: Pliers, screwdriver, wrench, hammer
Duct tape
Super glue
Sewing kit
Bungee cords
If you’d like to expand on the basic supplies, a more detailed list of tools and hardware can be found HERE.
First Aid kit
It’s important to have a basic first aid kit on hand at all times, but particularly in the event of an emergency. Your kit should include basic wound care items like bandages, antibiotic ointments, and sprays. As well, if you use them, keep on hand a supply of basic over-the-counter medications, like pain relief capsules, cold medicine, cough syrup, anti-nausea pills, and allergy medication.
If you want to put together a more advanced medical kit, you can find a list HERE.
Special needs
This is something that will be unique to every family. Consider the things that are needed on a daily basis in your household. It might be prescription medications, diapers, or special foods. If you have pets, you’ll need supplies for them too. The best way to figure out what you need is to jot things down as you use them over the course of a week or so.
Entertainment
Nothing grates on a parent’s nerves more than a refrain of, “I’m boooooredddd.” Many kids are accustomed to almost-constant electronic entertainment, so the loss of that can be quite stressful.
Keep a box of off-grid entertainment supplies in an easy-to-access place. Make one up for the different members of the family and make these items things that the kids are not allowed to play with at any other time so that they are novel and interesting when the time comes to use them. Include things like stationary supplies, notebooks, pens and pencils, sharpeners, colors or coloring pencils, markers, glue sticks, glitter, puzzles, activity books, games, stickers…make it a treasure trove! Be sure you include all of the supplies needed for each activity because it’s hard to find things when your home is only lit by candlelight.
Stock up on what you need for these fun activities before the next grid-down scenario:
Shadow puppets
Books
Hide and Seek
Telling stories – kids are especially engaged with chain stories
Reading aloud
Flashlight hide and seek
Flashlight tag
Guess the shadow
Toys that do not need batteries, like dollhouses and kitchens, dinky cars, and floor
Make your house an obstacle course. A way to run around, roll over beds, etc to get some energy out.
Card games
Coloring
Board games
Arts and crafts
Send them out side, weather permitting. If the water is running, turn on sprinklers or fill a kiddie pool to help them stay cool.
Imagination games like playing house, cops and robbers, don’t step in the lava, camping in the wilderness
Put on a play
Play dress-up
Collect song books and have a sing-along in front of the fire
Play music together (piano, makeshift drums, harmonica, spoons, castanets, etc.)
Make puppets and put on a puppet show
Get out those old photos and finally assemble them in scrapbooks
Play word games like Hangman
Playing old games like jacks, pick-up sticks, and tumbling towers
Play with building toys like blocks, Lincoln Logs, or Lego
Believe it or not, sometimes power outages can be fun.
Any other suggestions for a summer power outage?
Have you been through a summer power outages that lasted longer than a couple of hours? Do you have some suggestions to add? Please share the in the comments section below.
http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/how-to-prep-for-a-summer-power-outage-07022015
SIRR1
Deceased
I don't store anything in my attic except for insulation!
Now my shop and garage are a different story, both were built with lofts and in my shop which can get real nasty dirty I closed off the lofts for storage of tools that I need but don't get used often.
In the garage loft I store camping gear in one area and paper goods in another along with my bug out supplies. I can load my truck and trailer in the garage out of sight of prying eyes. I will have to go over to the shop and tool up on a bug out situation but both lofts are clean, dry and easily acceptable if I have to make a run for the border.
The one problem I will have in a Bug out situation is that I will have to leave my new car in the garage behind, do I leave the keys in the ignition or do I take them with me?
Hell the way I figure the thugs will eventually get it running, I wonder does ford offer a kill switch option like the GM On Star service?
I know my Edge gets updates to its computer from the Ford mothership because it tells me when it downloads and installs a new update.
I am going to look into this.
SIRR1
Now my shop and garage are a different story, both were built with lofts and in my shop which can get real nasty dirty I closed off the lofts for storage of tools that I need but don't get used often.
In the garage loft I store camping gear in one area and paper goods in another along with my bug out supplies. I can load my truck and trailer in the garage out of sight of prying eyes. I will have to go over to the shop and tool up on a bug out situation but both lofts are clean, dry and easily acceptable if I have to make a run for the border.
The one problem I will have in a Bug out situation is that I will have to leave my new car in the garage behind, do I leave the keys in the ignition or do I take them with me?
Hell the way I figure the thugs will eventually get it running, I wonder does ford offer a kill switch option like the GM On Star service?
I know my Edge gets updates to its computer from the Ford mothership because it tells me when it downloads and installs a new update.
I am going to look into this.
SIRR1
momof23goats
Deceased
this s very true, that said, so can flour, sugar, rice, then the dried foods are in the pantry, the canning closets in the basement has the canned goods.
Dried beans, rice, wheat, and paper products ... but be smart and keep them rotated because even those items can and will deteriorate. If your storage area also has a humidity issue then the only thing I would store there is extra air. Heat and humidity are a bad combo for storage of items that you expect to get any use out of.
No matter what or where you store thing they should be rotated regularly. Even if you don't use them you should be checking for varmints ... bugs to rodents ... and things like dry rot, mildew, mold, etc.
No matter what or where you store thing they should be rotated regularly. Even if you don't use them you should be checking for varmints ... bugs to rodents ... and things like dry rot, mildew, mold, etc.
prudentwatcher
Veteran Member
I live in Florida and keep the following preps in my garage:
toilet paper
paper towels
kleenex
paper plates
plastic cups and utensils
laundry detergent/softener
dish soap (dawn)
dishwasher tablets
pump hand soap (softsoap)
foil
plastic bags
charcoal (inside a plastic trash can-4 bags fit, top tied down with a bungee cord)
sleeping bags
canning jars
dehydrator, canning pot, pressure canner
2 camp stoves
port-a-potty
kitty litter (we have 5 cats)
boxes of garbage bags
tarps
tools
a fold down wagon
water barrels
extra clothes in rubbermaid containers
and more, you get the idea.
toilet paper
paper towels
kleenex
paper plates
plastic cups and utensils
laundry detergent/softener
dish soap (dawn)
dishwasher tablets
pump hand soap (softsoap)
foil
plastic bags
charcoal (inside a plastic trash can-4 bags fit, top tied down with a bungee cord)
sleeping bags
canning jars
dehydrator, canning pot, pressure canner
2 camp stoves
port-a-potty
kitty litter (we have 5 cats)
boxes of garbage bags
tarps
tools
a fold down wagon
water barrels
extra clothes in rubbermaid containers
and more, you get the idea.
willowlady
Veteran Member
That list of things to discard if they reach 40 degrees for over two hours is a hoot. Wonderful way to waste a lot of perfectly good food. Not saying all of it is misinformation, and of course you have to use yours eyes, nose and commons sense, but quite a few things are -- depending on circumstances. First of all, many, many cooked foods can be stored at room temperature for a number of hours and not go bad. Depends on what it is and how it's prepared, and what "room temperature" is. Stuff with Mayo, yes that has a short room temp life. But all the stuff on that list?
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Food Categories Specific Foods Held above 40 °F for over 2 hours
MEAT, POULTRY, SEAFOOD Raw or leftover cooked meat, poultry, fish, or seafood; soy meat substitutes Discard [Yes on the seafood, depends on cooking and holding method for the meat and poultry]
Thawing meat or poultry Discard [Cook it, don't just discard it! Maybe dehydrate it]
Salads: Meat, tuna, shrimp, chicken, or egg salad Discard [already prepared -- depends on how high a temp it's sitting at and for how long. Anything with Mayo, pitch after a couple of hours]
Gravy, stuffing, broth Discard [Not if you can reheat it! gravy and broth can be "saved" for days if you just simmer it for ten minutes daily]
Lunchmeats, hot dogs, bacon, sausage, dried beef Discard [dried beef? depends]
Pizza – with any topping Discard [we commonly have pizza sit around for many hours -- covered of course -- and just nuke it prior to eating. Really, if it was cooked properly in the first place, and covered properly, the decomp process that spoils food and the bacteria that causes illness doesn't just spontaneously arise in two hours]
Canned hams labeled “Keep Refrigerated” Discard
Canned meats and fish, opened Discard
Casseroles, soups, stews Discard [only if they are already prepared and "open", and then only if you cannot reheat them]
CHEESE Soft Cheeses: blue/bleu, Roquefort, Brie, Camembert, cottage, cream, Edam, Monterey Jack, ricotta, mozzarella, Muenster, Neufchatel, queso blanco, queso fresco Discard [not in just two hours!]
Hard Cheeses: Cheddar, Colby, Swiss, Parmesan, provolone, Romano Safe [no way. Who refrigerates their Kraft Parmesan cheese? Sealed hard cheeses will keep for a couple of days]
Processed Cheeses Safe
Shredded Cheeses Discard [not after just two hours!]
Low-fat Cheeses Discard
Grated Parmesan, Romano, or combination (in can or jar) Safe
DAIRY Milk, cream, sour cream, buttermilk, evaporated milk, yogurt, eggnog, soy milk Discard [sour cream and yoghurt can be kept for more than two hours; it's already fermented to begin with]
Butter, margarine Safe
Baby formula, opened Discard
EGGS Fresh eggs, hard-cooked in shell, egg dishes, egg products Discard [Fresh eggs can be stored at room temperature, uncooked, for a days. Especially my happy hen homegrown eggs. They are easy to test to see if they should be discarded]
Custards and puddings, quiche Discard
FRUITS Fresh fruits, cut Discard
Fruit juices, opened Safe
Canned fruits, opened Safe [for a few days at most]
Fresh fruits, coconut, raisins, dried fruits, candied fruits, dates Safe
SAUCES, SPREADS, JAMS Opened mayonnaise, tartar sauce, horseradish Discard if above 50 °F for over 8 hrs.
Peanut butter Safe
Jelly, relish, taco sauce, mustard, catsup, olives, pickles Safe
Worcestershire, soy, barbecue, hoisin sauces Safe
Fish sauces, oyster sauce Discard
Opened vinegar-based dressings Safe
Opened creamy-based dressings Discard
Spaghetti sauce, opened jar Discard
BREAD, CAKES, COOKIES, PASTA, GRAINS Bread, rolls, cakes, muffins, quick breads, tortillas Safe [unless they start growing things]
Refrigerator biscuits, rolls, cookie dough Discard
Cooked pasta, rice, potatoes Discard
Pasta salads with mayonnaise or vinaigrette Discard
Fresh pasta Discard
Cheesecake Discard
Breakfast foods –waffles, pancakes, bagels Safe [until they start growing things]
PIES, PASTRY Pastries, cream filled Discard
Pies – custard, cheese filled, or chiffon; quiche Discard
Pies, fruit Safe [until they start growing things]
VEGETABLES Fresh mushrooms, herbs, spices Safe
Greens, pre-cut, pre-washed, packaged Discard
Vegetables, raw Safe
Vegetables, cooked; tofu Discard
Vegetable juice, opened Discard
Baked potatoes Discard [perfectly safe overnight at least if skin is left intact]
Commercial garlic in oil Discard [only if jar is opened]
Potato salad Discard
Casseroles, soups, stews Discard [only if already prepared, and not even then if you can reheat them. BTW, this one is a duplicate, already listed above.]
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Food Categories Specific Foods Held above 40 °F for over 2 hours
MEAT, POULTRY, SEAFOOD Raw or leftover cooked meat, poultry, fish, or seafood; soy meat substitutes Discard [Yes on the seafood, depends on cooking and holding method for the meat and poultry]
Thawing meat or poultry Discard [Cook it, don't just discard it! Maybe dehydrate it]
Salads: Meat, tuna, shrimp, chicken, or egg salad Discard [already prepared -- depends on how high a temp it's sitting at and for how long. Anything with Mayo, pitch after a couple of hours]
Gravy, stuffing, broth Discard [Not if you can reheat it! gravy and broth can be "saved" for days if you just simmer it for ten minutes daily]
Lunchmeats, hot dogs, bacon, sausage, dried beef Discard [dried beef? depends]
Pizza – with any topping Discard [we commonly have pizza sit around for many hours -- covered of course -- and just nuke it prior to eating. Really, if it was cooked properly in the first place, and covered properly, the decomp process that spoils food and the bacteria that causes illness doesn't just spontaneously arise in two hours]
Canned hams labeled “Keep Refrigerated” Discard
Canned meats and fish, opened Discard
Casseroles, soups, stews Discard [only if they are already prepared and "open", and then only if you cannot reheat them]
CHEESE Soft Cheeses: blue/bleu, Roquefort, Brie, Camembert, cottage, cream, Edam, Monterey Jack, ricotta, mozzarella, Muenster, Neufchatel, queso blanco, queso fresco Discard [not in just two hours!]
Hard Cheeses: Cheddar, Colby, Swiss, Parmesan, provolone, Romano Safe [no way. Who refrigerates their Kraft Parmesan cheese? Sealed hard cheeses will keep for a couple of days]
Processed Cheeses Safe
Shredded Cheeses Discard [not after just two hours!]
Low-fat Cheeses Discard
Grated Parmesan, Romano, or combination (in can or jar) Safe
DAIRY Milk, cream, sour cream, buttermilk, evaporated milk, yogurt, eggnog, soy milk Discard [sour cream and yoghurt can be kept for more than two hours; it's already fermented to begin with]
Butter, margarine Safe
Baby formula, opened Discard
EGGS Fresh eggs, hard-cooked in shell, egg dishes, egg products Discard [Fresh eggs can be stored at room temperature, uncooked, for a days. Especially my happy hen homegrown eggs. They are easy to test to see if they should be discarded]
Custards and puddings, quiche Discard
FRUITS Fresh fruits, cut Discard
Fruit juices, opened Safe
Canned fruits, opened Safe [for a few days at most]
Fresh fruits, coconut, raisins, dried fruits, candied fruits, dates Safe
SAUCES, SPREADS, JAMS Opened mayonnaise, tartar sauce, horseradish Discard if above 50 °F for over 8 hrs.
Peanut butter Safe
Jelly, relish, taco sauce, mustard, catsup, olives, pickles Safe
Worcestershire, soy, barbecue, hoisin sauces Safe
Fish sauces, oyster sauce Discard
Opened vinegar-based dressings Safe
Opened creamy-based dressings Discard
Spaghetti sauce, opened jar Discard
BREAD, CAKES, COOKIES, PASTA, GRAINS Bread, rolls, cakes, muffins, quick breads, tortillas Safe [unless they start growing things]
Refrigerator biscuits, rolls, cookie dough Discard
Cooked pasta, rice, potatoes Discard
Pasta salads with mayonnaise or vinaigrette Discard
Fresh pasta Discard
Cheesecake Discard
Breakfast foods –waffles, pancakes, bagels Safe [until they start growing things]
PIES, PASTRY Pastries, cream filled Discard
Pies – custard, cheese filled, or chiffon; quiche Discard
Pies, fruit Safe [until they start growing things]
VEGETABLES Fresh mushrooms, herbs, spices Safe
Greens, pre-cut, pre-washed, packaged Discard
Vegetables, raw Safe
Vegetables, cooked; tofu Discard
Vegetable juice, opened Discard
Baked potatoes Discard [perfectly safe overnight at least if skin is left intact]
Commercial garlic in oil Discard [only if jar is opened]
Potato salad Discard
Casseroles, soups, stews Discard [only if already prepared, and not even then if you can reheat them. BTW, this one is a duplicate, already listed above.]
One thing I learned from storing clothing in an uninsulated attic (temp range from zero or below in winter to well over a hundred in summer) is that the clothing was fine even after years in storage---EXCEPT for any items with elastic (underwear, children's clothes, pajama, etc.). Elastic breaks down under temp changes, especially heat.
Be careful with beans and rice on hot areas. Beans will "age out" (and become pretty well too hard to use for anything, except possibly "bean flour" if you have a REALLY good grinder) in a hurry, and rice goes rancid, no matter what someone will tell you.
You could store salt and white sugar ok in the warmer areas.
Summerthyme
You could store salt and white sugar ok in the warmer areas.
Summerthyme
hiwall
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I just do not have enough climate controlled space here. I have prepps stored in every nook and cranny. I have some items stored in the attic where in the summer it likely reaches around ten thousand degrees
In the attic there are some seldom used tool type items and some paper products. In insulated but not air conditioned areas I have some mixed food items stored. Yes I do rotate these items but some like the many pounds of rice while rotated it still ends up being stored for a long time before being used. So far I have lost nothing that I can remember off hand due to spoilage. We all have to make due with what we have to work with.
In the attic there are some seldom used tool type items and some paper products. In insulated but not air conditioned areas I have some mixed food items stored. Yes I do rotate these items but some like the many pounds of rice while rotated it still ends up being stored for a long time before being used. So far I have lost nothing that I can remember off hand due to spoilage. We all have to make due with what we have to work with.
Orion Commander
Veteran Member
What I get from all this is that unless we build special climate controlled storage we are not really prepared. I would like a storage/tornado cave but finances will not permit at this time.
Perhaps a walled off area in a basement.
Perhaps a walled off area in a basement.
I've thrown out brown rice, but haven't had trouble with white rice.
I don't think I've had over one bad egg in my life, and sometimes they get left out for a long time. When we had hens, and a full refridgerator, we'd put them in the basement. No problem.
Garryowen... I suspect I'm just more sensitive than many to rancid odor/taste, but white rice really can get funky. If stored properly in mylar with O2 absorbers, it stores a lot longer, but without that protection, it doesn't last nearly as long as people think.
And yes, fresh eggs (especially when gathered frequently so they're clean and don't need washing) will keep for a significant length of time... refrigerated, you can be talking a year (especially if kept in plastic cartons which restrict- but don't completely stop- airflow) and even under just "cool" conditions, they're good for several weeks, if nott 3-4 months.
Summerthyme
And yes, fresh eggs (especially when gathered frequently so they're clean and don't need washing) will keep for a significant length of time... refrigerated, you can be talking a year (especially if kept in plastic cartons which restrict- but don't completely stop- airflow) and even under just "cool" conditions, they're good for several weeks, if nott 3-4 months.
Summerthyme
Don't store ammunition in hot areas. It won't spoil, but may develop high pressures.
Framing in an area of a basement, around here a north wall would be best, can keep stuff at around 60 degrees in the summer, cooler in winter. Ground temp has a lot to do with how well it works.
We have a well pit that stays pretty cool, but it isn't really dry.
Framing in an area of a basement, around here a north wall would be best, can keep stuff at around 60 degrees in the summer, cooler in winter. Ground temp has a lot to do with how well it works.
We have a well pit that stays pretty cool, but it isn't really dry.