ECON What NEW barriers are there for going to a movie theatre in the future? And the trickle down effect.

[packyderms_wife]

You want movie-style popcorn? Pretty simple.

You need a stove top, pot, coconut oil and Flavacol butter-flavored seasoning salt.

You make it like THAT, your kitchen will smell like the multiplex, in a good way.

Good to know. OC makes popcorn on the stove top and then after that's popped he melts half a stick of butter and pours it onto the popcorn. I love to season mine with Everything but the Bagel after he butters the popcorn.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

Good to know. OC makes popcorn on the stove top and then after that's popped he melts half a stick of butter and pours it onto the popcorn. I love to season mine with Everything but the Bagel after he butters the popcorn.

I spent a LOT of time trying everything from clarified butter to air popping. Coconut oil and Flavacol does the best job. Thing is, Flavacol comes in job lots. One carton will make you like multiple trash bags of popcorn.

 

[packyderms_wife]

I spent a LOT of time trying everything from clarified butter to air popping. Coconut oil and Flavacol does the best job. Thing is, Flavacol comes in job lots. One carton will make you like multiple trash bags of popcorn.

I've seen it at Sam's Club it'd be a lifetime supply for OC and I, lol.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

I've seen it at Sam's Club it'd be a lifetime supply for OC and I, lol.

Worst part is it has an expiration date. I don't know if it's the "we did this for marketing purposes" expiration date or "this is poisonous if you keep it past this date" expiration date, either.

 

[Dennis Olson]

I haven’t been to a movie theater in over a decade. Probably never will again. The last time i was there, the sound was so loud it actually hurt my ears. After the film, I spoke to the manager about it. “Yeah, I know it’s too loud, but that’s what today’s audiences want.”

Got it.

I currently have a 65” 4k UHD TV. When 8k has been out a few years, I’ll replace it with an 85” 8k set. I see no reason to go to a movie theater ever again.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

I haven’t been to a movie theater in over a decade. Probably never will again. The last time i was there, the sound was so loud it actually hurt my ears. After the film, I spoke to the manager about it. “Yeah, I know it’s too loud, but that’s what today’s audiences want.”

Got it.

I currently have a 65” 4k UHD TV. When 8k has been out a few years, I’ll replace it with an 85” 8k set. I see no reason to go to a movie theater ever again.

The theaters have only two reasons left: first-run movies--which you can beat if you wait, and the window narrows every year--and the "theater experience." You can replicate a LOT of that any more at home, depending on your space and your bankroll. I hope, one day, to be able to make one complete with non-grid power.

 

[Dennis Olson]

I look at home theater systems regularly. A good one is never less than $1500. While ultimately I could pop for one, what stops me is the realization that I simply don’t have the sound up loud enough anymore to justify the expense. And if I did, the dogs would freak out.

Problem solved...

 

[Blacknarwhal]

I look at home theater systems regularly. A good one is never less than $1500. While ultimately I could pop for one, what stops me is the realization that I simply don’t have the sound up loud enough anymore to justify the expense. And if I did, the dogs would freak out.

Problem solved...

That depends largely on your definition of "good".

My current "home theater" is in an L-shaped room that measures maybe 20 x 15 x 8. A Vizio soundbar with wireless rear speakers and subwoofer--under $200 if I remember right--overcomes most of the challenges and does nicely.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

One of the biggest chains said it won’t be reopening this morning, saw several articles from multiple sources throughout the day.

The reality is most people now own fairly decent home theater systems and the6 buy movies online to stream. Popcorn is cheap and easy to make, hit 5he dollar store for candy and soda pop, and boom you can watch a movie in your pjs in the comfort of your own home.

This is what we've been doing for years now. The only difference is that we wait, until movies that we want to watch come out on DVD. We buy it to watch at home, and add it to our DVD library to watch again if we want to. We do the same for our favorite tv series. We always have a store of popcorn and plenty of drinks, and nothing like snuggling underneath a cozy throw in your PJ's to watch a home movie in private.

 

[Dennis Olson]

That depends largely on your definition of "good".

My current "home theater" is in an L-shaped room that measures maybe 20 x 15 x 8. A Vizio soundbar with wireless rear speakers and subwoofer--under $200 if I remember right--overcomes most of the challenges and does nicely.

I have the same thing but a Samsung unit. Works perfectly. But a soundbar isn’t “home theater.” Trust me on that. And since the little soundbar works so well and can get so loud that it bothers the dogs, a “real” home theater system isn’t something I need or want.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

Plus, just like airplanes, they never clean those seats.….or floors....or armrests.

Also, an infestation of bed bugs will keep one away. That did it for us!

 

[packyderms_wife]

I haven’t been to a movie theater in over a decade. Probably never will again. The last time i was there, the sound was so loud it actually hurt my ears. After the film, I spoke to the manager about it. “Yeah, I know it’s too loud, but that’s what today’s audiences want.”

Got it.

I currently have a 65” 4k UHD TV. When 8k has been out a few years, I’ll replace it with an 85” 8k set. I see no reason to go to a movie theater ever again.

The volume is a problem for us as well. We went to a Willie Nelson concert in Des Moines a couple of years back and the one guy performing ahead of Willie was so loud it made your ears bleed. Never again.

 

[KMR58]

I, for one, will never give my money to hollywood by going to a movie ever again. I will not support the industry that was built on the backs of child sex slavery and worse. It makes me sick to think that I have ever given them even one dollar or any of my time.

 

[Melodi]

For many decades the real money made in movie theaters was the over-priced popcorn and other snacks, then they got so terribly expensive that many people just started doing without, then ticket prices went up to make it unaffordable for most families to go to.

A few independent places in large enough cities managed to survive for a long time and some of the really big chains (from what folks are saying by expanding their remit to childcare, real meals etc).

Meanwhile, movies got shorter and shorter, the idea of a "Double Feature" only happens in the independent often art-house and classic film theaters (again only viable in a few areas) and the technology made viewing at home easier and easier.

A few markets, like Ireland during the 2008 crash, benefited when movies away from home were often the only place young people could be alone on dates and actually became more popular (as they were for courting in the 1930s and 1950s in the US) but these days while prices are not as low as in the US, big-screen TVs (up to 40 inches) are pretty normal as our soundbars and streaming video sites.

I haven't been to a movie theater in almost a decade, I don't think I am alone in this.

 

[Walrus Whisperer]

The last movie I saw in a theater was The Passion Of The Christ. I just find DVds now. Have tons of them.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

I, for one, will never give my money to hollywood by going to a movie ever again. I will not support the industry that was built on the backs of child sex slavery and worse. It makes me sick to think that I have ever given them even one dollar or any of my time.

Spare a thought for the little people who had nothing to do with the child sex. Costume designers, set builders, the 16 year old kid whose first job was taking tickets...they wouldn't dream of touching children.

 

[bluelady]

I think a few will survive, in the big cities, for premieres and special runs. They can charge premium prices, and can afford to disinfect properly. The smaller ones mostly not...but then there are way too many people who couldn't care less about cleanliness, and buy snacks they can't afford for the whole family, so maybe a few, who knows?

Some theaters are doing takeout of their popcorn, sodas, & snacks!

We have a drive-in nearby that's opening this week. They have special procedures in place, snack building closed, etc. Would be fun but so far we've seen what they're showing; I hope it survives. The no filming will slow things down for sure.

 

[kiawahman]

Imagine the movie business so bad that actors had to find a real job. Maybe Mike Rowe can help them with that.

 

[The Snack Artist]

I can't remember the last time I bought anything from the concession at the theater. $18.50 for popcorn and a coke? I passed and started bringing my own. I stuff it into my sleeve and dare them to ask me what I'm carrying. Not one worker has ever looked at me twice. The only time I'll go is for a movie like "Ford vs Ferrari" where the sound is important to me. I didn't go to see that one though because I hate Matt Damon. There are more and more actors I refuse to give my money to. He made Liberace with that two bit hack Mikey Douglas. Didn't see it.

 

[Donald Shimoda]

Howdy, Folks!

Imagine the movie business so bad that actors had to find a real job.

My brother lives in the L. A. Area (I miss him because frankly, I cannot stand to go out there). He's a HUGE MooVee buff, and goes to the cinema regularly.

One thing he has discovered and is actively involved in is the live theater scene in the L. A./Hollywood area.

Because the MooVee bid'ness is so hard to get work in, many incredibly talented people have turned their craft to live performances in that neck of the woods. The MooVee industry's loss, methinks.

On the occasions I have gone and visited, we always take in a live performance. They've been fantastic. In many cases, dirt cheap; tickets for as little as $5, or bring in cans of food. Very often, free parking as well!

[With so much to do out in the L. A. area (I'm into art and antiquities, so we usuallly hit up a gallery or museum during my visits), I'm honestly surprised he's still into MooVees and TeeVee, but that's his thing.]

A few years ago I was in The L. A. Area in the home of a MooVee and TeeVee actress. She had given it up for theater (and was getting great reviews). So, indeed - some of the actors and actresses have decided the MooVee industry is bad enough to give up on.

Peace and Love,

Donald Shimoda

 

[Donald Shimoda]

BTW - I saw a review of this sort of thing a while back - talk about nail in the coffin for the MooVee industry:

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[wintery_storm]

We have a local drive in theater that plays older run movies. I think this will be the wave back to seeing. Movies. Much more fun. Maybe someone can come up with an enclosed drive in theater for the winters and it can be year round. Offering a nice dinner that u can order from your car would be a plus. Some people would like the nostalgia. Of going to the drive in. I know Hollywood is looking into streaming at 20.00 a pop. For a new movie.

 

[Doomer Doug]

The last movie I paid to see in an actual movie theater was Revenant, way back in February of 2015, some 5 years ago. For me, corona chan is just the final straw. The so called movie theater experience is no longer a pleasant one, even before throwing being infected by some college punk just back from a party.

Doomer Doug rates THREE industries that are at best be significantly reduced if not vaporized.
One is the movie theater industry
Two is the cruise ship industry.
Three is the physical sexual contact industry. Sex robots will become a common as women of the night were 2 months ago. Further, pornography will take over lad Vegas and convert the decaying casinos into virtual reality sex brothels, only using robots and virtual reality porn programs. The ultimate in safe sex!!!

 

[kiawahman]

Drive-in movie theaters around here are delaying opening due to virus. Concession stands and bathroom facilities are still problems areas.

 

[billet]

We just connected our big, flat screen to my old fashioned, 200 watt analogue stereo and it will blow you away. Audio and video is cheap these days. Who needs a movie theater?

Best
Doc

Last time I was in a movie theatre was in 1986. Has anything changed?

 

[Firebird]

I stopped going to the theatre years ago, way too ghetto in the mall. Bought a new 75” flat screen over thanksgiving, so no reason to ever return to the theatre.

 

[Ravekid]

Lots of trickle down issues with some based on other things that happen.

If we get all the PPE, ICU space, and ventilators we need, the powers that be could just open things back up and tell the individual it is on them. Lots of older folks and those with high risks conditions will likely limit exposure. Minimal elevator usage, no attending mass gatherings (lots of season ticket cancellations for various events), no concerts, no theaters, no amusement parks, etc.. Their vacation travel will change, with some hotels and vacation rentals catering to this crowd. No chartered bus or cruise ship vacations unless they can work out the safety issue. Less attending events for grand kids, less eating out. Masks might help. Don't be surprised to see older folks who still want to venture out wearing N95s or some kind of face covering.

Another economic one is working from home. If the trend stays, lots of commercial space will stay empty. They might convert these buildings to apartments or condos if the trend appears likely to stay that way for years to come.

Mindset of the people in terms of spending might change. Do less and save money. Lots of guns were sold, might get more people interested in firearms/general self-defense issues. Political ideals might change. Italy had government healthcare, didn't really help them. The self-reliance might grow on some folks.

The biggest economic issue for me is price resets. Will stock prices go down further and stay down (less buying due to less deposits into retirement accounts)? Will home prices have to be slashed, mortgages re-written to lower principal amounts? If the lenders don't re-write the principal amount, for some it will be better to walk away. Might save one tens, if not hundreds, of thousands by walking away and letting the bank have it and taking the bankruptcy and foreclosure hit. People still working might quit their jobs just to take a much lower paying job to try and argue for a re-organization or they walk. Others who have paid off their home might be steadfast in their refusal to grasp how much the value has dropped, and thus people might decide to put off relocating/selling because of that.

 

[kiawahman]

I wonder how many people recently buying guns were anti-gun or fence sitters previously? Or pro-gun ppl just adding to their personal armory? What I really wonder about are all those anti's and fence sitters who experience home invasions by people desperate for food and money. This is to assume that this whole thing continues and worsens, which IMO it will. What we already see in Ca. are long lines of needy in search of a meal. There has to be more but we won't hear of it in the puppet media.

Home values should fall along with the economy fostering a lack of qualified buyers, and local jobs. At the same time, local governments aren't going to take the first step in lowering appraised values, especially when there is a shortage in revenue. No doubt we'll see more empty homes where the owners walked away, further undercutting property values. Expect to see local governmental meetings filled to capacity, challenges to appraised values, and most bond issues voted down.

 

[packyderms_wife]

Last movie I saw in a theater was Lord of the Rings when it first came out in the 2000's.

 

[jward]

AMC says it has enough cash through July as movie theaters aim to re-open


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(Reuters) - AMC Entertainment Holdings Inc (AMC.N), the world’s largest movie theater operator, said on Friday it has enough cash to withstand a global suspension of operations until a possible partial reopening of its locations in July.

FILE PHOTO: Deckchairs sit stacked outside a closed movie theater during the global outbreak of coronavirus (COVID-19) in Santa Monica, California, U.S., March 16, 2020. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson/File Photo
The company said it was seeking to raise $500 million in a new debt offering that would provide enough liquidity to withstand coronavirus-related closures until the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday, on Nov. 26, if necessary.

Movie theaters worldwide have been shuttered since mid-March to help prevent further spread of the novel coronavirus. In the United States, the individual states are now considering when to allow businesses to reopen.

Shares of AMC surged on Friday, closing up 31% at $3.20 on the New York Stock Exchange. Shares of rival Imax Corp (IMAX.N) and Cinemark Holdings Inc (CNK.N) rose 9% and 16%, respectively.


Even after Friday’s surge, AMC’s stock remained down roughly 60% from late February, just before fears of the coronavirus sent Wall Street tumbling.

U.S. theater operators are aiming to reopen some locations as early as late June and nationwide by late July, but all plans are tentative

On Thursday, President Donald Trump released guidelines that call for reopening of businesses in three stages. Movie theaters were listed among large venues that could open their doors in the first phase with “strict physical distancing protocols”.

States may use the guidelines to decide when to begin easing their restrictions on business operations.


AMC said its theaters would remain closed through June, and that timeline could be extended.

The company, which has put many employees on furlough, said it had a cash balance of $299.8 million as of March 31.

Rival Cinemark (CNK.N) also is working to raise $250 million through a debt sale.

Reporting by Supantha Mukherjee in Bengaluru and Lisa Richwine in Los Angeles; Editing by Leslie Adler
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AMC says it has enough cash through July as movie theaters aim to re-open

AMC Entertainment Holdings Inc <AMC.N>, the world's largest movie theater operator, said on Friday it has enough cash to withstand a global suspension of operations until a possible partial reopening of its locations in July.

www.reuters.com