HEALTH What is the best medical cannabis forum?

RCSAR

RCSAR

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Like the topic says.

I'm looking for one that has some science on it also.

BTW here is a good video on no min altering uses from a DR.

Dr. William Courtney and the dietary benefits of raw cannabis Pt. 1



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRLVyGfGcZs

I found it very interesting! Keep in mind it is a new science with a long way to go. I have been watching the reports fron users. keep in mind it is there is no altered state, no high with the raw product so it is not all stoners getting high and "claiming" medical use.

I had no idea there was so many uses! They all work together so you can't pull one CBD out and have it perform. There is no mind altering high till you heat it to 180 -212 degrees which decarboxilates the THC

Those that HATE cannabis no matter what would do well to see the video!!!
 
dieseltrooper

dieseltrooper

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Good question. I've been reading up on thr possibility of getting med MJ added to my wife's pain management. Currently no-go in OK where she currently is treated and is tested at monthly appts.
Now that I work for a MT company and we plan to get established there, I'm hoping she can get treated there and get her rx meds as well as med MJ.
If any members know more, I'd appreciate a post or PM.
 
RCSAR

RCSAR

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Pain meds and Med MJ is tough for Docs.
They know it help a lot but the DEA (fed) script pad for pain meds runs head on to Med MJ not being federaly allowed (drug of abuse).

Bottom line is if the pain Dr tests for THC which they all do then he can not write for opiates. If he does he can lose his DEA number and not write any scripts ie: out of business.

MJ needs to be removed from the federal controlled substance list.

The State may say OK but with no fed script writing allowed then game over.

We are in that nasty in between time.
 
Doc1

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Guys, I don't use MJ, but I am a chronic pain patient. The pain medication laws and practices in this country border on the medieval! There really needs to be a national pain patients advocacy group. BTW - as you might already know - chronic pain is a serious medical condition which in itself causes additional medical complications and disease.

Best regards
Doc
 
RCSAR

RCSAR

Veteran Member
I agree, chronic pain will lead to other problems and shorten your life if not treated.

Thanks AZ
 
NoPlugsNM

NoPlugsNM

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RCSAR said:
Pain meds and Med MJ is tough for Docs.
They know it help a lot but the DEA (fed) script pad for pain meds runs head on to Med MJ not being federaly allowed (drug of abuse).

Bottom line is if the pain Dr tests for THC which they all do then he can not write for opiates. If he does he can lose his DEA number and not write any scripts ie: out of business.

MJ needs to be removed from the federal controlled substance list.

The State may say OK but with no fed script writing allowed then game over.

We are in that nasty in between time.
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Did you watch the video that was embedded? I know it was an hour long, and part 2 took you out into more time invested into this, but time invested into this subject is a very important thing.

One of the first things you would have learned is that when using the CANNIBUS OIL or INGESTING the cannibus from plant form, you do not get a positive test for THC. It is only when you smoke it, heat it, that you get the THC.

I know several people who were on several/many pharmaceutical drugs for pain who started using the oil, have been using the oil for some time, they no longer take the medical drugs for pain, the oil started relieving their pain, or better stated - addressing their problem, and as time went on they the decided to discontinue the pharma meds and just use the oil since it actually did the job. You need to get the part where pharma meds block certain receptors, that when the oil comes into play it needs those receptors to do it's job, and it's job is actually tied to healing the problem, not just turning something off neurologically to stop a signal that IS the pain signal. A pain signal occurs to tell you something is wrong, the same signal turns off when it gets fixed, wouldn't it be something IF that pain signal also was what drew the repair ingredient TO THE PROBLEM and then saw that the ingredient got DELIVERED to repair the problem? That is actually what all that technical jargon is about in the information you can get from going to the good doctors website www.cannibusinternational.org/
There you will find a TON of information, links, patents, articles, etc to inform you about all this stuff.

Using med mj for disease treatment and subsequently health maintenance after the treatments have done their job has been around for a long time. The arguments relative to legal vrs illegal are also found on this website, read them and use them to your advantage if you decide to go this route. Your health and wellness is part of your choices due to your rights relative to freedom and liberty. So, if you want to go this route, take the liberty to do so. Choice is all about liberty, and liberty is all about choice. Hemp oil is fully legal in all 50 states, you can buy it off the internet and have it shipped to your door.



NP
 
NoPlugsNM

NoPlugsNM

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And BTW RSCAR . .

I am not picking on you per se, you brought up some very good stuff all in one post, so I just responded to it as a whole.

EVERYONE need to know this stuff, the differences and the truths. This is not easy to digest, a lot of technical things to read and try to comprehend, but the bottom line is that we are not in that nasty in between time, we are stuck in it like glue because we are not as a whole standing up and telling them we will not tolerate their limitations of calling something illegal and soley directing us to one thing that THEY have made legal and profitable to specific corporations and individuals.

Lots and lots of people have tried to use herbal therapies with little to no success, ask why, the devil lies in the details of how pharma meds block them, render them ineffective to push you into the pharma drugs. Things like preservatives in our food, nitrates, nitrites, the use of chlorine and fluoride in our water, chemicals in the overall that are not found in nature but have been created and used accordingly in damn near everything.


NP
 
RCSAR

RCSAR

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Yes NoPlugsNM I saw both videos more than once.

Problem is with cannabis oil is when you heat process it over about 180 degrees it decarboxilates the THC into the form that will get you high. Cold process or raw cannabis it does not decarboxilate.

Once you cook the cannabis it changes the THC. Now I'm talking cannnabis and not hemp oil.

The thing that gives big pharma fits is they can not pull one molecule out and have it perform such as we see with Marinol. The THCs and the Cannabidols and Terpenes and other goodies like flavanoids work together in concert to do a job. Here is where having access to many different straines is very important. Some have low CBDs and a few have a very high CBD ratio. I don't think pulling any of the THC forms out in a finished product is that great an idea.

Indicas and Sativas plus the hybrids all will prove to have a place I think.

We just don't yet have the science needed identifyand prove this point. Science needs data and for decades when a gov funded study started to give daya points that the .gov did not like or want ir was defunded and the federal cannabis permission slip was pulled from the school or research center.

There have been so many lies told and repeated over and over that swinging public opinion back to a logical track is going to take time.

Smoking one strain will/does/might help pain and nausea.

Eating a high CBD strain raw with no mind altering effect will/might/does treat cancer and even delusions.

Until we get reproduceable results and the data collected users are just testers. That is not to say failed testers but they do show us a way to go at this point. I have seen in real life right in front of me cannabis work well and even better than big pharma products with less side effects on many medical issues.

The word cannabis or MJ should be removed from every federal law and regulation. That Bill for Congress to vote on should be about a quarter page long.

BTW Texas is in that nasty in between time. An officer sees a hemp OR a cannabis seed in your car or on your person they have the option to take you to jail. Texas has further to go than at least 30 other States.


ps. URL spelling change http://www.cannabisinternational.org/
 
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RCSAR

RCSAR

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Project CBD | CANNABIDIOL SCIENCE | FOR DOCTORS | FOR PATIENTS

This gets into a bit more detail


Published on Feb 6, 2013

Many physicians refrain from approving Cannabis use by patients because they learned nothing about Cannabis in medical school and cannot knowledgeably advise patients about dosage, side effects, mechanism of action, etc. This talk by UCSF oncologist/AIDS specialist Donald Abrams, M.D. to residents at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center is an exceptionally clear overview of the medical Cannabis field. Rolando Tringale, MD, invited Dr. Abrams on behalf of the Family Medicine Residency Program.
O'Shaughnessy's arranged for videographer Chad Rea to tape the event.
 
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securitysix

Senior Member
Its not a forum but the best cannabis pharmaceutical company I have found is in England and is GWPharmacutical.They are developing drugs from cannabis for a lot of different things. Not like the US at least they are working on it. US has no intrest in it but they send one of our top Doctors in kids epilepsy over to study with them.They also are trying to make the opiats that are so addictive to take out the addiveness out but still make them kill the pain.
 
RCSAR

RCSAR

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Yes GWPharmacuticals makes the SativeX inhalers or are going to. I spoke with some of them in the 90s when they were looking for a country to base operations. They, at the time, wanted to have strain and landrace specific products and were out hunting seeds also.

Now that so many Drs will have access to a known amount/purity/dose they have many tests going on. Some tests are as long as 15 years and we will not know the results for a long time.
 
RCSAR

RCSAR

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Anyone have a method for making cannabis tinctures?
It can be from a video you saw or other experience.

This might deserve its own thread.
 
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