sleepyeddie
Senior Member
Only the approved of questions may be asked.
ADMIN “Were they vaxxed?”
- Thread starter Dennis Olson
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Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
It's somewhat like dropping Hitler.....you lose for being the first to use his name....forget the term, starts with a G. Gotliebs law?
It's much like bringing in Christianity and eschatology, such things pertain to a whole lot of what's going down.
I'd thiink a wee bit of leeway, would be considered in context.....can I be more vague? Withouit getting a demerit. I'm now done here, on this thread, I think... Love you all, though we've never met. Be fun to have a party at Dennis's place some day...or maybe just let God know, and have him set one up down the road, in the big house.....were no vax's are allowed.
Did I cover all the hot buzz words?.......... A new week starts soon.
It's much like bringing in Christianity and eschatology, such things pertain to a whole lot of what's going down.
I'd thiink a wee bit of leeway, would be considered in context.....can I be more vague? Withouit getting a demerit. I'm now done here, on this thread, I think... Love you all, though we've never met. Be fun to have a party at Dennis's place some day...or maybe just let God know, and have him set one up down the road, in the big house.....were no vax's are allowed.
Did I cover all the hot buzz words?.......... A new week starts soon.
Uhhmmm...
Veteran Member
My opinion only…
There are now so many theories regarding the safety of the Covid-19 vax that every one may have their own.
There are plenty of Covid threads. We may feel free to discuss Covid as much as we wish on these threads, but it is unnecessary to hear everyone’s pet Covid safety theory on every darned thread. It is just boring. So, quit it. Please.
ARE YOU SERIOUS??????
And I’ve asked nicely and REPEATEDLY over the past few months for people to cut it out, only to be summarily ignored. So, now I have to drop the hammer. It’s you guys bringing this on, not me, because you can’t control yourselves and won’t listen.
So be it. Grow the hell up.
bracketquant
Veteran Member
Profit of Doom
Dismember
Watch where he drops the hammer, so you don’t end up sitting on it.
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
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medic38572
TB Fanatic
You all are killing me tonight!! Hilarious
Reasonable Rascal
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Kewpie
Senior Member
That’s assuming every cause of death not immediately identifiable in a vaxxed person is automatically assumed as a vaccine death. Heart disease has been the number one cause of death in the US for DECADES. It’s nothing new. Every year, children (under 18) have suddenly died from an undiagnosed heart condition. There was a study in 2010 that put the number between .6 and 6 per 100,000, and we’re all well aware that childhood obesity and cardiac issues were on an upswing in the following decade.The vaxx rate is north of 70% yes? So statistically we'd be right more than wrong
But suddenly, every.single.death is now assumed to be vaccine related.
Let’s put it this way: Remember when everyone was complaining about hospitals coding every heart related, diabetes related, obesity related, pulmonary related death as a Covid death? And we could all clearly see the bias played out because they were lumping ‘dying with’ and ‘dying of’ together? Now remember how annoyed and/or infuriated you were? And here we are, a year or two later - AND YOU’RE DOING THE SAME DANG THING. The same thing that was making you want to slam your head into your keyboard, you’re now guilty of, and many of you are just as obnoxious as the people who were blaming every ‘sudden death’ on Covid itself. Right down to saying they deserved it or they got what was coming to them.
People with their tribalism and identity politics are freaking BiZARRE, nonsensical, and completely lacking all self awareness.
Border Collie Dad
Flat Earther
Without a doubt, should some of you make that choice. But YOU CHOOSE; this is an exercise of free agency, actions and consequences. Either you have more self-control than a toddler or you don’t. That’s not up to me.
coalcracker
Veteran Member
The vax issue presents an almost uniquely difficult psychological challenge for each side of the debate.
Consider the vaxxed. Think of the magnitude of regret they must carry if they accept that these “died suddenlies” are caused by a substance that they know is currently inhabiting their own bodies. That is a colossal psychological challenge. So it’s much easier to repress or deny such a disturbing truth.
Now, consider the anti-vaxxed. Our challenge is to discuss what we believe to be a potentially deadly mistake (taking these shots) and still remain kind and patient with the people who have not arrived at this same conclusion. That is a colossal psychological challenge as well.
Consider the vaxxed. Think of the magnitude of regret they must carry if they accept that these “died suddenlies” are caused by a substance that they know is currently inhabiting their own bodies. That is a colossal psychological challenge. So it’s much easier to repress or deny such a disturbing truth.
Now, consider the anti-vaxxed. Our challenge is to discuss what we believe to be a potentially deadly mistake (taking these shots) and still remain kind and patient with the people who have not arrived at this same conclusion. That is a colossal psychological challenge as well.
Not to the ridiculous extent it was happening Sometimes people die. Sometimes people are a-holes. That fact pre-existed the creation of covid19. Stop turning it into hammer of satan. That creates a real failure in logic. They now admit fewer people died of Covid than reported. They used the same reasoning.
If you think someone died like that then add it to the Died Suddenly thread. This constant blamiming everything on Covid or the vaccine makes the board look ignorant and insane, not at all investigative.
ChicagoMan74
ULTRA MAGA
There is also a colossal psychological challenge to even admit that there is a middle ground somewhere re: this topic in the face of alot of of unknowns and lack of good information...but seeing grey is ALWAYS a challenge for people who refuse to see anything but black and white.
Southside
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Do you think?
No it couldn't have been.....
meandk0610
Veteran Member
But this is why people ask — we’re not privy to the actual numbers because the government won’t test and release real information. We’re trying to get a better handle on the patterns/rates as private citizens, in all likelihood because we have people we love whom we are terrified of losing sooner rather than later. We hope, perhaps in vain, that in gathering information we can at least maybe convince them to not keep adding to the danger (like for my 6-year-old vaxxed niece or my brother and his wife).
And, yes, if you cannot ask questions and have to walk on eggshells for fear of the response, I think that’s censorious. I understand that it may get tiresome but not being able to ask questions, even painful ones, discourages the open exchange of ideas.
But was he vaxxed?
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Well you’re not going to find the answer on this forum. You need to go to the author(s) of the source article and ask there. TB is simply a news aggregator. We didn’t write the articles.
That issue has NOTHING to do with this forum or constantly beating the vax question to death. That’s between you and your loved ones. Leave TB out of it.
Ask questions on the appropriate threads. Asking on EVERY DAMN THREAD is going to get you tossed off the board. If you can’t control yourself, better to self-exile now. If you do, you can come back when/if your mental illness is under control. If I toss you, you’re out for good.
Censor THAT Batman…
meandk0610
Veteran Member
As I said upthread, we went through this EXACT discussion when I had to come down on abortion comments drifting every thread. EXACT. SAME. DISCUSSION. And we’ll end up with the same result. Those who can separate themselves emotionally from the topic will post on appropriate threads moving forward. Those who aren’t in control of their emotions will be forced to comply against their will or leave the forum.
The last thing in the world I want is to be a hardass. But this Covid vax bullsh*t WILL NOT continue. End of story.
ETA: The abortion debate happened here over 15 years ago. Ask yourself the following two questions: Do we still discuss abortion on TB or was the topic censored? Do people hijack every thread with abortion commentary?
There’s your answer as to how this will go.
The last thing in the world I want is to be a hardass. But this Covid vax bullsh*t WILL NOT continue. End of story.
ETA: The abortion debate happened here over 15 years ago. Ask yourself the following two questions: Do we still discuss abortion on TB or was the topic censored? Do people hijack every thread with abortion commentary?
There’s your answer as to how this will go.
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TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
I get your impulse, and have been mulling over this thread because I have similar feelings on the matter. But I also have the same feelings on it that Dennis does. Asking if every sudden death on every new thread is like someone blurting out "that's what she said" over and over.
That is NOT to say that the question is not on many, many minds when the sudden deaths occur, especially in younger, fit people. As has been pointed out, there is a thread that directly addresses this phenomenon. So there is no censorship, per se, just an open compartmentalization to keep things neat on the board.
Personally, I think the question of "did they take the jab" will become moot, if things go as I fear. The answer will become obvious before you have to ask it. It may be that healthcare workers will become the only ones asking as it will become rare that the shot didn't harm/kill their patient...
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
That's how I see it, too. And that drum needs to keep getting beat. I think that shunting this question to that thread will make things more focused, to boot.
Dobbin
Faithful Steed
So like Twitter used to be, if you reference Covid Statistics or probable cause PUBLISHED ELSEWHERE - then you get ghosted?
Maybe still is... (Dunno, don't use Twitter.)
I mean its one thing to speculate. Another entirely to cite facts. Twitter for a long time, and perhaps even now, didn't differentiate. Their purpose was suppression of discussion at the request of your government.
Which is ENTIRELY in Dennis' purview.
But we are not a public forum like Twitter claimed to be.
I mean I hate to call it censorship, but...
When you run the party and those of obnoxious behavior make themselves more so, you can take the punch bowl away.
Dobbin
Maybe still is... (Dunno, don't use Twitter.)
I mean its one thing to speculate. Another entirely to cite facts. Twitter for a long time, and perhaps even now, didn't differentiate. Their purpose was suppression of discussion at the request of your government.
Which is ENTIRELY in Dennis' purview.
But we are not a public forum like Twitter claimed to be.
I mean I hate to call it censorship, but...
When you run the party and those of obnoxious behavior make themselves more so, you can take the punch bowl away.
Dobbin
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
On a different note and not to thread jack but, that centre image looks to me like a direct link to Monkeys in someone's lineage.
Personally not a look I'd put out there.
BTW:
I thought Kathy summed it up quite well (post 101 above)
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He bez a kang.
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
You left out nuke gay whales.
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
I understand the issue. But “the other issue” is we now have another social taboo. All the traditional ones have been thrown overboard, so I guess there’s room for new ones.
Clarify.