…… We never used "eclipse glasses" before

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
What new technology has come along to make direct viewing of an eclipse safe?

Who makes "eclipse glasses" and how do they work?

Optics is a science. What new breakthrough in optics has been applied to "eclipse glasses"?

They look like cheap, Chinese-made theater glasses for 3-D movies.
Yeah they are, but with really dark lenses. Also good for sunsets in Texas.
 

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When I was a kid, the school had us make viewersas a craft before an eclipse. It was a way to view it without looking directly at the sun. I don't remember how to make them.

It looks like these glasses are just cheap sunglasses with specific tints to block the spectrum most likely to damage the eyes.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Oh, good. I didn't make this up.


Regardless of the type of eclipse you're looking to view, it is essential that you use adequate eye protection whenever you look directly at the sun to avoid causing permanent and irreparable damage to your retinas.

While it might be tempting to pick up a cheap pair of solar-eclipse glasses from places like Amazon or eBay, this puts you at significant risk of buying unsafe or counterfeit glasses that won't provide your eyes with adequate protection. Instead, we recommend buying from one of the reputable sellers featured on this page, or from others that have been approved by the American Astronomical Society, to ensure that they meet current safety standards.

 

Terrwyn

Veteran Member
I wouldn't let a kid look at the eclipse period. Watch it on TV.. But then I'm not a parent so not my problem. I just think eyesight is too precious to take even the slightest risk. If you are going to look though source your goodies from a Welding supply store not Amazon.
 

Tex88

Veteran Member
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helen

Panic Sex Lady
I remember teachers saying only a welding helmet was safe. 50 years ago. We cut a slit in paper and used it to cast an image of the eclipse on the sidewalk.

I woke up in the wee hours, thinking about fresnel lenses. Then an image of all those kids with cheap eclipse glasses looking up. Then I wondered why I didn't get those for my kids when they were young.

I don't remember hearing about cheap eclipse glasses before. Are the cheap ones made overseas?

I'm praying for heavy rain on April 8.
 

Luddite

Veteran Member
We watched the last one here with a welding hood.

We had one youngster under 10 corralled up for the event.
I had them under an overhead roof. They couldn't see it even if they ignored instructions.

I put a welding hood on them and walked one at a time out from under the roof.

Hopefully it was a positive memory. They didn't even get yelled at if my memory serves.

The eclipse moves past "don't watch the welding rod" or
"don't touch the hot stove". These two are self-critiquing.;)
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
I bought these on Amazon:
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ECLIPSMART 2X POWER VIEWERS SOLAR ECLIPSE OBSERVING KIT​

$12.95

The Celestron EclipSmart 2x Power Viewers Solar Eclipse Observing Kit will provide excellent views of solar eclipses for you and a friend—at 2X magnification! These viewers go beyond traditional eclipse glasses with an extra boost in magnification to help you see sunspots and other details on the surface of the Sun.

Power Viewers fold flat when not in use and expand into a 3-D mini binocular when you’re ready to view. Plus, Power Viewers are equipped with sturdy plastic lenses that boost your magnification. These Celestron EclipSmart 2x Solar Power Viewers are affordable and easy to use—with Solar Safe filter technology that conforms to the current ISO standard.

This kit makes observing partial and total solar eclipses like the upcoming 2023 Annular Solar Eclipse and 2024 Total Solar Eclipse easy. You’ll receive two power viewers and a beautiful eclipse poster packed with helpful information, a city-by-city eclipse timetable, and a detailed map of the eclipse’s path.

Solar Safe Technology

EclipSmart solar products feature Solar Safe filter technology—the ultimate protection from harmful solar radiation—including IR and UV light—plus 99.999% of visible light. Celestron Solar Safe filter technology is SAFE for direct observation of the Sun and has been independently tested to conform to and meet the transmission requirements of ISO 12312-2:2015(E), Filters for Direct Observation of the Sun, EN 1836:2005 + A1:2007 (E) for an E15 Filter for the Direct Observation of the Sun and AS/NZS 1338.1:2012, Filters for Eye Protectors.

Important safety note: inspect your 2x Power Viewers before every use. Do not use and discard if any part of the viewer or the solar film inside is damaged, torn, punctured, or separated from the frame in any way. Do not use these viewers in combination with any magnifying optical device (i.e., telescopes, binoculars).
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
I bought these on Amazon:
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ECLIPSMART 2X POWER VIEWERS SOLAR ECLIPSE OBSERVING KIT​

$12.95

The Celestron EclipSmart 2x Power Viewers Solar Eclipse Observing Kit will provide excellent views of solar eclipses for you and a friend—at 2X magnification! These viewers go beyond traditional eclipse glasses with an extra boost in magnification to help you see sunspots and other details on the surface of the Sun.

Power Viewers fold flat when not in use and expand into a 3-D mini binocular when you’re ready to view. Plus, Power Viewers are equipped with sturdy plastic lenses that boost your magnification. These Celestron EclipSmart 2x Solar Power Viewers are affordable and easy to use—with Solar Safe filter technology that conforms to the current ISO standard.

This kit makes observing partial and total solar eclipses like the upcoming 2023 Annular Solar Eclipse and 2024 Total Solar Eclipse easy. You’ll receive two power viewers and a beautiful eclipse poster packed with helpful information, a city-by-city eclipse timetable, and a detailed map of the eclipse’s path.

Solar Safe Technology

EclipSmart solar products feature Solar Safe filter technology—the ultimate protection from harmful solar radiation—including IR and UV light—plus 99.999% of visible light. Celestron Solar Safe filter technology is SAFE for direct observation of the Sun and has been independently tested to conform to and meet the transmission requirements of ISO 12312-2:2015(E), Filters for Direct Observation of the Sun, EN 1836:2005 + A1:2007 (E) for an E15 Filter for the Direct Observation of the Sun and AS/NZS 1338.1:2012, Filters for Eye Protectors.

Important safety note: inspect your 2x Power Viewers before every use. Do not use and discard if any part of the viewer or the solar film inside is damaged, torn, punctured, or separated from the frame in any way. Do not use these viewers in combination with any magnifying optical device (i.e., telescopes, binoculars).
I think you should make sure they are approved per the article above.

Have an umbrella handy. I'm praying for rain. God please bring the rain. Amen.
 

_dd

Senior Member
During the eclipse in 2017 my parents car was parked just outside of the window to their den and it just turned out they could see the eclipse beautifully as it reflected on their windshield. Dad was disab!ed so it turned out perfectly my parents. Dad passed away about 3 months later so glad he was able to see it. My brother had purchased glasses for all of the family...I don't remember where he got them but he is a highly specialized scientist and had sources so they were trustworthy. I think America's Best maybe selling them this go around. Not in the path of totality here so I didn't remember to look into getting a couple pairs. Still should be about a 75% here.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Good "eclipse" glasses have been recommended for as far back as I can remember. That or doing the "pinhole" thang. The safe rule is still...don't look at the sun directly. Every time, there's some dimwit who gets fried retinas in the crowd. You can only do so much as far as dimwits are concerned. :shr:
 

Switchback

Veteran Member
People used the cheap ass Chinese Amazon glasses during the last big eclipse without any news articles of mass eye problems afterwards.
People make big claims and get others all stirred up before events and nothing ever happens as they claim. Just relax for cripes sake.
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
We had welding type glasses in 2017. The Illannoy park rangers came around before the eclipse handing out glasses to everyone.

Nice touch.
 

SSTemplar

Veteran Member
For 77 years I never had time to care about eclipses. I’m retired norw so I think I will stroll out to the front yard and look at this one. It’s been talked about so much it seems like the last one that is going to happen. Guess I’m lucky to be right in the middle of its predicated path.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Oh please...

Here ya go. I'm glad you asked.

There are plenty of eclipse glasses available for sale in person and online, but experts are urging people to shop carefully and beware of fakes.
Rick Fienberg, project manager of the AAS Solar Eclipse Task Force, says counterfeit eclipse glasses began appearing on the market just before the 2017 solar eclipse.

"[W]e didn't know who was making them, and we didn't know if they were safe,"
he told NPR via email.

The AAS issued a warning, and Amazon temporarily pulled some eclipse glasses from its website.

For this year's eclipse, Fienberg says, his group has had time to request testing information from many manufacturers. But he adds that some sellers of bogus eclipse glasses now fraudulently use the name or design of other companies.

 

helen

Panic Sex Lady

There is absolutely nothing wrong with posting information.


American Astronomical Society warns of counterfeit eclipse glasses​

BY RYAN CHATELAIN NATIONWIDE
PUBLISHED 3:37 PM ET MAR. 22, 2024

The American Astronomical Society warned Friday that counterfeit glasses for viewing next month’s solar eclipse are popping up online.


What You Need To Know

  • The American Astronomical Society warned Friday that counterfeit glasses for viewing next month’s solar eclipse are popping up online

  • The rare total eclipse will extend from Texas to Maine on the afternoon of April 8

  • Viewing the sun directly without proper eye protection — even for a short time — can permanently damage the retina and even cause blindness, called solar retinopathy, according to the American Academy of Ophthalmology

  • The American Astronomical Society said in a news release that, as recently as March 11, it had not seen evidence that solar viewers being sold were unsafe, but that has changed in recent days


The rare total eclipse will extend from Texas to Maine on the afternoon of April 8. Parts of Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, Illinois, Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, Vermont, New Hampshire are also in the path of totality. Other areas will see a partial eclipse.

Viewing the sun directly without proper eye protection — even for a short time — can permanently damage the retina and even cause blindness, called solar retinopathy, according to the American Academy of Ophthalmology.

Solar viewers are sold as cardboard glasses, plastic-frame glasses or handheld viewers.
The American Astronomical Society said in a news release that, as recently as March 11, it had not seen evidence that solar viewers being sold were unsafe, but that has changed in recent days.

Eclipse glasses certified as safe by the International Organization for Standardization are labeled “ISO 12312-2:2015.” And there are trusted manufacturers, some of which the AAS has included on its list of approved solar viewers.

But the organization noted that anyone can falsely print the ISO statement on a product and said unidentified Chinese factories are producing counterfeit glasses printed with the names and artwork of reputable brands, making them indistinguishable from the real things.

The AAS had already recommended people buy eclipse glasses included on its approved list. But now the group also is urging consumers to follow the list’s links to sellers when buying online.


The organization acknowledges its list is not comprehensive, saying there are hundreds of additional sellers “and we can’t possibly vet them all.” The AAS advises against searching sites such as Amazon, eBay and Temu and opting for the cheapest option.

Eclipse glasses should be “at least 1,000 times darker than even the darkest regular sunglasses,” said Rick Fienberg, project manager of the AAS Solar Eclipse Task Force.

“There’s no way to tell just by looking at them whether eclipse glasses are genuinely safe,” Fienberg said, “but it’s easy to tell if they are not safe.”

For those wondering if their solar viewers are safe, the AAS recommends a three-part test.

  1. First, try them out indoors. You should not be able to see anything through them, except perhaps very bright lights, which should be very faint. If you can see any hint of items such as household furnishings or pictures on the wall, consider the glasses unsafe.
  2. If the glasses pass the first test, try them outside on a sunny day, but don’t look at the sun yet. You still shouldn’t be able to see anything except perhaps the sun’s reflection, which, again, should be very faint, off a shiny surface or puddle.
  3. For the last test, glance at the sun for less than a second. You should be able to see a sharp-edged round disk (the sun’s visible “face”) that is comfortably bright. The sun may appear white, bluish white, yellow or orange, depending on the type of filter in the glasses.
If the glasses pass all three tests, they are “probably” safe, the AAS said.

American Academy of Ophthalmology also cautions not to use eclipse glasses that have scratches or are damaged. And it says people should never look at the eclipsed or partially eclipsed sun through an unfiltered camera, telescope, binoculars or other similar devices, even if they are wearing eclipse glasses. The solar rays coming through the devices can damage the protective filter in glasses, it says.
Solar filters for cameras, binoculars and telescopes must be securely mounted on the front of the optics, the AAS said.

Those who do not have protective eyewear can indirectly view the partial eclipse using pinhole projection. One method includes placing the slightly open fingers of both hands in a waffle pattern and then looking at your hands’ shadow on the ground. You should be able to see the crescent shape of the partially eclipsed moon in the spaces between your fingers.

The AAS also suggested using items with small holes in them for pinhole projection — a colander, a straw hat, even a Ritz cracker. Another option is to look for a shadow on the ground of a leafy tree, which should show crescent-shaped suns in the spaces between the leaves.

Pinhole projection won’t work during totality. It is safe to look at the totally obscured sun without eye protection, but you should stop looking or put protective eyewear back on as soon as the sun peaks out behind the moon again, the AAS said.

RYAN CHATELAIN - DIGITAL MEDIA PRODUCER​

Ryan Chatelain is a national news digital content producer for Spectrum News and is based in New York City. He has previously covered both news and sports for WFAN Sports Radio, CBS New York, Newsday, amNewYork and The Courier in his home state of Louisiana.

© 2024, Charter Communications, all rights reserved.

 

Creeper

Creeper
I would think the Celestron glasses would be trustable.
Celestron also makes "EclipSmart Safe Solar Eclipse Binoculars" in several sizes. I have the 10x42 version. Unless you are looking right at the sun, the view is completely black. Good for seeing sunspots.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Fixed filter welding hood, 30 bux at Tractor Supply.

It comes with a #10 filter, general consensus on the interwebz is to use a #12-#14 filter for solar viewing.

The lenses should be readily available for a few more dollars, may or may not have to go to a welding house tho.

When the eclipse is over, you'll still have something of value to someone, unlike questionable glasses.



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Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
We were taught in school to never look directly at an eclipse. We built the shoebox thing so we could see the shadow of it. The weather forecasters are now saying we could have heavy cloud cover that day.

That's an interesting detail. Wonder how that factors into the various calls for doom, what with the "eight cities named Nineveh" thing.
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
Back in the 60s/70s I had a telescope with a special lens for viewing solar eclipses. With that lens, there was a warning not to look for more than a few seconds.

The way the weather has been, here, since about January of 2023, I expect about a 1/3 chance of a rainy day on the 8th.
 

Papacub

Veteran Member
In 2017 I heard that #11 welding lens was the minimum darkness that would protect your eyes.
No citatations, just what was being talked about at the time.
 

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
I bought a 10 pack of certified ones. Went ahead and looked at sun for about 5 seconds. All is good, and will only allow kids the same time of viewing while under my supervision.
 

wlf0wtr

Senior Member
Does anyone know if it's safe to look by using a mirror instead of looking directly at it? Could looking at it via the image in the mirror damage your eyes?
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Owner uses his welding hood. His report is "No. 5 shade" is not quite strong enough (used normally in gas welding) and No. 11 shade is probably too strong (used normally for heavy electric arc welding) He seems to like No. 10 shade for looking at the sun.

Dobbin
 
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