Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
I'm still stunned that it took Canadians to invent poutine. French fries. With cheese and gravy. How did America NOT invent that??
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I'm still stunned that it took Canadians to invent poutine. French fries. With cheese and gravy. How did America NOT invent that??
6 courses?
1 meat
2 potatoes
3 meat
4 pickled beets
5 meat
6 sliced onions and cucumbers in vinegar
JT will have helicopter drops of cannabis and condoms with a note to be good, see ya in the spring.
and NO SPICEY STUFF!
ok, ok
according to my dad, when I was a kid.
1 meat
2 potatoes
3 meat
4 potatoes
5 meat
6 potatoes
it was mom who would put in the pickled beets and the onion & cucumbers in vinegar
Laurane
Canadian Loonie
The Ferry union went on surprise strike in 1973 summer, and we were stuck on the Island with an 18 month old for 10 days.....running back and forth to the Ferry Terminals along the coasts to get back to Vancouver and on to home in Alberta. Ended up ferrying to Seattle and driving back up into Canada - cost us a fortune in motel bills and ferry fare.Ya ferry termial twassian(spelling?) to nanaimo, cost the hell outta me with a boat in tow
Laurane
Canadian Loonie
You forgot the buns...... definitely pickled beets! And Nanaimo bars.
DefVoid
God Luck and good speed!
I live on Vancouver island.
That was the most crazy rain I’ve ever seen in my life. One for the record books. This event and the record breaking heatwave (51 Celsius )we had this summer have freaked many ppl out. Two record breaking events within months of each other.
On Sunday we strapped on all our rain gear and went for a hike to a waterfall. My kiddies had a blast jumping in puddles. It was a great day.
Yesterday morning I decided to stay home. And it’s a good thing I did or I would have been stuck on the other side of a 3 foot deep washout.
My sister in law came down from the okanagan for an event in Vancouver and is now cut off. They tried to go home the long way through whistler but got stuck on the highway as the road under them gave out. They had to leave their van and are now trying to fly home.
what a gong show
That was the most crazy rain I’ve ever seen in my life. One for the record books. This event and the record breaking heatwave (51 Celsius )we had this summer have freaked many ppl out. Two record breaking events within months of each other.
On Sunday we strapped on all our rain gear and went for a hike to a waterfall. My kiddies had a blast jumping in puddles. It was a great day.
Yesterday morning I decided to stay home. And it’s a good thing I did or I would have been stuck on the other side of a 3 foot deep washout.
My sister in law came down from the okanagan for an event in Vancouver and is now cut off. They tried to go home the long way through whistler but got stuck on the highway as the road under them gave out. They had to leave their van and are now trying to fly home.
what a gong show
I know they have beer pipelines in Germany, but Canada?
Melodi
Disaster Cat
OK first I was aware of all three Vancouvers (including the one in Washington State I have a close friend who lives there) - but I mentioned boats as a way out from EITHER the Island, the coast (or both) because they have harbors and if you can't get out any other way a boat is often a good way to travel.
San Francisco isn't an island either but people were using boats and later ferries to get back and forth from Oakland both right after the quake (and people were terrified of a 1906 type of fire) and for transportation to and from work for months.
Also, this storm affected more than just the city of Vancouver, I know people on Whitby Island who have no power, internet, or other services. So the entire area is a mess, it is just the City of Vancouver is really in a mess.
San Francisco isn't an island either but people were using boats and later ferries to get back and forth from Oakland both right after the quake (and people were terrified of a 1906 type of fire) and for transportation to and from work for months.
Also, this storm affected more than just the city of Vancouver, I know people on Whitby Island who have no power, internet, or other services. So the entire area is a mess, it is just the City of Vancouver is really in a mess.
parocan
Veteran Member
Hey, kewl another Van Islander. It was nuts where we live as well, thankfully only lost power for a few hours.
We are on the same grid as Canwest mall so we get our power back faster then most. Just topped off our truck
this morning. Hopefully they get the malahat highway open both ways soon rather then alternating traffic. They even
ran the ferry that runs from millbay to brentwood bay all night last night to try and alleviate traffic that was stuck
down here overnight.
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PalmettoGirl
Senior Member
They definitely have a harbor in Vancouver. I flew into Vancouver for an Alaskan cruise on Norwegian cruise line. Unfortunately, we flew in the evening before our morning cruise so I didn’t get to see much of the city.
bracketquant
Veteran Member
That's great for solid food.
Otherwise, Alexander Keith's, Labatt, Molson, Moosehead, Sleeman, and for good measure Unibroue (La Fin Du Monde).
Either one of each, or a six pack of one, with the exception of Unibroue. A six pack of that could be one's last meal.
Bones
Living On A Prayer
bracketquant
Veteran Member
Canadians know how to puck.
Laurane
Canadian Loonie
BC has such a diverse terrain and climate, that you could get stuck anywhere with a weather event at any time if the year…. I know it hit hot there this summer but 51C is crazy…. Think we had a 46 in penticton one year when the fires raged. At least their airports are open in OK.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
What a difference 500 miles makes, from Vancouver, BC to Portland Oregon.
It is SUNNY AND 52 FARENHEIT RIGHT NOW.
The chance of rain today is under 15% and will be ONE PERCENT NOON TOMMORROW.
And yeah, it is prepping when you do it BEFORE TSHTF, and HOARDING if you do it like this guy plans too to.
Trudeau is the head moron in Canada, so if they ain't combat prepped then they are
out of luck.
It will likely take WEEKS to fully repair that level of damage to the transport system. Some quick fixes on landslides etc are doable in one week or so, maybe some Canadian army combat engineers doing bridge repair with those HUGE mobile bridge tracked blobs we used back in the 1970's.
It is SUNNY AND 52 FARENHEIT RIGHT NOW.
The chance of rain today is under 15% and will be ONE PERCENT NOON TOMMORROW.
And yeah, it is prepping when you do it BEFORE TSHTF, and HOARDING if you do it like this guy plans too to.
Trudeau is the head moron in Canada, so if they ain't combat prepped then they are
out of luck.It will likely take WEEKS to fully repair that level of damage to the transport system. Some quick fixes on landslides etc are doable in one week or so, maybe some Canadian army combat engineers doing bridge repair with those HUGE mobile bridge tracked blobs we used back in the 1970's.
The only beer I drink. Should have bought stock in the company.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
NOW THAT IS WHAT DOOMER DOUG CALLS A ROAD REPAIR VEHCILE. 
asc.army.mil
HIGH MOBILITY ENGINEER EXCAVATOR (HMEE) TYPE I AND TYPE III
DESCRIPTION
The High Mobility Engineer Excavator Type I (HMEE-I) is a non developmental military vehicle fielded to the Army’s Brigade Combat Teams (BCT) and other selected engineering units. Tasks performed by the HMEE-I and III include repair and improvement of roads, trails, bridges and airfields.
The high mobility of the HMEE-I provides earth-moving machines capable of maintaining pace with the Army’s current combat systems. All HMEE-I will be capable of accepting armor in the form of an armor cab (Crew Protection Kit), are C-130 transportable without armor, and diesel driven. HMEE-I replaces Small Emplacement Excavators in BCT and HMEE-I in Stryker BCT. The HMEE-I is employed in Infantry BCT, Armored BCT, Stryker BCT, Multi-Role Bridge Companies and Engineering Support Companies.
The HMEE-III Backhoe Loader is a Commercial Off-The-Shelf backhoe loader with military modifications to include an armored cab designed for units that are relatively stationary and do not require speed and rapid deploy-ability. The HMEE-III is used by Combat Support Brigades in general construction tasks. It is employed by Horizontal and Vertical Construction Units, and other non engineering units such as Military Police and Quartermaster Units.
High Mobility Engineer Excavator (HMEE) Type I and Type III - USAASC
DESCRIPTION The High Mobility Engineer Excavator Type I (HMEE-I) is a nondevelopmental military vehicle fielded to the Army’s Brigade Combat Teams (BCT) and other selected engineering units. Tasks performed by the HMEE-I and III include repair and improvement of roads, trails, bridges and...
asc.army.mil
HIGH MOBILITY ENGINEER EXCAVATOR (HMEE) TYPE I AND TYPE III
DESCRIPTION
The High Mobility Engineer Excavator Type I (HMEE-I) is a non developmental military vehicle fielded to the Army’s Brigade Combat Teams (BCT) and other selected engineering units. Tasks performed by the HMEE-I and III include repair and improvement of roads, trails, bridges and airfields.
The high mobility of the HMEE-I provides earth-moving machines capable of maintaining pace with the Army’s current combat systems. All HMEE-I will be capable of accepting armor in the form of an armor cab (Crew Protection Kit), are C-130 transportable without armor, and diesel driven. HMEE-I replaces Small Emplacement Excavators in BCT and HMEE-I in Stryker BCT. The HMEE-I is employed in Infantry BCT, Armored BCT, Stryker BCT, Multi-Role Bridge Companies and Engineering Support Companies.
The HMEE-III Backhoe Loader is a Commercial Off-The-Shelf backhoe loader with military modifications to include an armored cab designed for units that are relatively stationary and do not require speed and rapid deploy-ability. The HMEE-III is used by Combat Support Brigades in general construction tasks. It is employed by Horizontal and Vertical Construction Units, and other non engineering units such as Military Police and Quartermaster Units.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
Here is a list of the type of military bridge laying options available for emergency use up in Vancouver.
"Fries" ?
Times have changed, lol.
ok it's been that way for a while. Those don't ask me if I want grilled or raw onions on my burger anymore either.
Also.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Provincial posted Nov 15, 2021 @ 12:30pm by Josh Duncan
Vancouver is now completely cut off from the rest of Canada by road
There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada.
The Lower Mainland and Fraser Valley are now completely cut off from the rest of British Columbia and the country by road.
.jpg "<who>Photo Credit: Linda Corscadden</who>The southbound lanes of the Coquihalla Highway have been completely washed out near Othello Tunnels.")
Photo Credit: Linda Corscadden
The southbound lanes of the Coquihalla Highway have been completely washed out near Othello Tunnels.
Flooding and mudslides had closed most routes between the coast and BC Interior over the past 24 hours, but the back route through Whistler on Hwy 99 remained open this morning.
That changed shortly after 11 am, when DriveBC reported that a mudslide 42 kilometres south of Lillooet had shut down Hwy 99 as well.
The only way to drive between the coast and the rest of Canada at this time is through the United States.
However, Washington is also seeing highway closures due to the inclement weather and residents would need a COVID-19 test to re-enter Canada.
Here’s a full list of mainland BC highways currently closed:
- Hwy 1 between Hope and Lytton
- Hwy 1 between Lytton and Spences Bridge
- Hwy 3 between Hope and Manning Park
- Hwy 3 between Princeton and Keremeos
- Hwy 3 near Fernie
- Hwy 5 between Hope and Merritt
- Hwy 7 on both sides of Agassiz
- Hwy 7 between Maple Ridge and Mission
- Hwy 11 between Mission and Abbotsford
- Hwy 93 between Radium Hot Springs and the BC-Alberta border
- Hwy 99 between Pemberton and Lillooet
Vancouver is now completely cut off from the rest of Canada by road
There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada. The Lower Mainland and Fraser Valley are now completely cut off fr.www.kelownanow.com
They may want to consult the Japanese for a fix for this problem, they had roads like this back up and running within a few days after that massive tsunami hit in 2011.
They might have some AVLBs around.
This is on the M-60 chassis.
I think they have adapted it to the M-1.
Shooter
Veteran Member
Armored Vehicle Launched Bridge
An armoured vehicle-launched bridge (AVLB) is a combat support vehicle, sometimes regarded as a subtype of combat engineering vehicle, designed to assist militaries in rapidly deploying tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles across rivers. The AV
Terriannie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Does Canada have a National Guard? After hurricanes we got the NG distribute MREs at local community distribution centers.
I'll be praying for Vancouver.
I'll be praying for Vancouver.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Otherwise known as Vantucky!
vessie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
vessie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
CanadianGuy
Veteran Member
Hi I graduated high school in 1982 in Port Hardy. Where are you?
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
I did a little more research and it looks like where I used to live in the late 1970's, Bellingham, Washington took a big hit from flooding also. Bellingham is south of Vancouver BC. Whatcom county must have gotten creamed also. Sheesh, they need water desperately all up and down the west coast, except in that immediate area of Bellingham, Vancouver BC. Oh well.
Siskiyoumom
Veteran Member
Just saw photos on face book about the empty store shelves in Bellingham.
Costco was out of stock on TP, sweet peppers, onions, oranges, milk, bread, coffee, all meat, beer.
Out of beer?
SHTF time.
SHTF time.
parocan
Veteran Member
The amount of damage is amazing, the Coquihalla highway will be out of commission for awhile I suspect
with the amount of damage. It was 1 of the better highways even though it's called the highway through
hell. The mudslide on highway 99, unfortunately killed 1 they know for sure. between 3 - 10 cars were involved
they won't know for sure till the area is cleaned up. It's going to be awhile before Bc recovers from this. The town
of merrit still is evacuated. They might be able to return in a week, just in time for the next batch of rain.
Sadly I think it could get worse as according to weather maps, we have more rain coming in via the pineapple
express towards the middle/end of next week into the weekend.
View: https://twitter.com/KamilKaramali/status/1460691884041400322
with the amount of damage. It was 1 of the better highways even though it's called the highway through
hell. The mudslide on highway 99, unfortunately killed 1 they know for sure. between 3 - 10 cars were involved
they won't know for sure till the area is cleaned up. It's going to be awhile before Bc recovers from this. The town
of merrit still is evacuated. They might be able to return in a week, just in time for the next batch of rain.
Sadly I think it could get worse as according to weather maps, we have more rain coming in via the pineapple
express towards the middle/end of next week into the weekend.
View: https://twitter.com/KamilKaramali/status/1460691884041400322
Thanks for the updates and please stay safe out there.
Laurane
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This is BC today....... all of Lytton village burned this summer, Merritt flooded 2 years in a row......Abbotsford is low farm land. The mountain passes are flooded and collapsed over the edges onto rail tracks. Military helicopters rescuing people. Princeton 40 miles from where I lived, Kelowna 30 miles north, Sicamous the Houseboat capital of Canada on Mara Lake, all across the province is in a mess. Highway #1 is the Trans Canada, but Vancouver seems fine, just no access.
How does it all get cleared up before winter sets in?
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Vancouver, BC is pretty much like Seattle. Winter generally means rain rather than snow although of course they can get snow, and I suspect Vancouver reacts to snow much like Seattle and Portland (which is to say, half an inch means it's the Snowpocalypse).
Profit of Doom
Dismember
Just ask Snake Plissken.
when I lived in northern BC (kitimat, stewart) the big prob was snowload..
5 ft dump was not unusual (2? yrs ago 7 ft)
and then weeks of rain
the roofs were built for major snow
but even then, they needed to be cleared
Kitimat had the best snow removal I have ever seen
grader came down each rd and put it all in the center of the rd
huge snowblower came by afterward
and put it onto folks lawns (not their driveways)
Melodi
Disaster Cat
This morning from RTE (Irish National News broadcaster) this looks EXTREMELY bad and will start affecting the US in a number of ways - from oil pipelines shut to access to Vancouver only by going via the US (I imagine truckers and relief will have to do this in the short term, followed by sea and air cargo emergency shipments). As I said yesterday, parts of Washington State are also affected but the oil shut down will make it worse I suspect.
www.rte.ie
Deadly mudslides cut off Vancouver from rest of Canada
Updated / Wednesday, 17 Nov 2021 08:44
The extreme weather comes after British Columbia suffered record-high temperatures over the summer that killed more than 500 people, as well as wildfires that destroyed a town
At least one person has died in torrential rains that trapped motorists in mudslides, forced thousands to evacuate their homes and cut off Vancouver from the rest of Canada.
Search and rescue teams recovered the body of a woman from a mudslide near Lillooet, 250km north of Vancouver, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said.
Staff Sergeant Janelle Shoihet added that investigators have received two missing person reports, but that they believe "there may have been other occupied vehicles that were lost in the slide".
"The total number of people and vehicles unaccounted for has not been confirmed," she said.
The rains had let up by late yesterday afternoon. But mudslides, rocks and debris washed out several roads leading to Vancouver, trapping hundreds of motorists who were rescued by military helicopters by nightfall on Monday.
Local television showed video footage of the Trans Canada highway, which connects the coastal city to the rest of the country, inundated. A bridge was also washed out.
Other routes have also been closed, according to Drive BC, which said on Twitter: "Highways are closed until further notice."
As a result, motorists wanting to travel to or from Vancouver would have to travel south to the US and back up into Canada.
Anyone taking this circuitous route, however, would have to show proof of a negative Covid-19 test upon re-entry into Canada.
Landslides also cut off rail traffic to and from Vancouver - one of Canada's busiest freight sea ports.
"Both CN and CP Rail indicate that no rail traffic is currently able to transit between Kamloops and Vancouver," a port spokesperson said.
In Ottawa, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said his government is "watching closely" the evolving situation in British Columbia.
He was to speak with the province's premier, John Horgan, later in the day to see what federal help might be needed.
"We'll be there to help in any way, shape or form," he told reporters.
Record rainfall
Environment Canada said up to 250mm of rain - what the region normally gets in a month - fell on Sunday and Monday in and around Vancouver, which was also hit last week by a rare tornado.
The extreme weather comes after British Columbia suffered record-high temperatures over the summer that killed more than 500 people, as well as wildfires that destroyed a town.
On Tuesday, thousands of British Columbians were unable to return to their homes due to evacuation orders still in effect due to flooding in a dozen communities - including all of Merritt and parts of Abbotsford - and as many as 9,000 homes were without power.
In Merritt, flooding compromised the wastewater treatment plant, while thousands in Abbotsford reportedly slept in their cars on an elevated road overnight, as farms in the Fraser Valley were inundated.
Others took shelter at emergency sites set up across the province, with some also sleeping in church pews or at schools, local media said.
Oil pipelines shut down
Floods have also hampered pipelines. Enbridge Inc shut a segment of a British Columbia natural gas pipeline as a precaution.
The storms also forced the closure of the Trans Mountain pipeline, which carries up to 300,000 barrels per day of crude oil from Alberta to the Pacific Coast.
Copper and coal miner Teck Resources Limited said the floods had disrupted movement of its commodities to its export terminals, while potash exporter Canpotex Ltd said it was looking for alternatives to move the crop nutrient overseas.
Directly to the south of British Columbia, in Washington state, heavy rains forced evacuations and cut off electricity for over 150,000 households on Monday.
The US National Weather Service yesterday issued a flash flood in Mount Vernon, Washington, "due to the potential for a levee failure".
Deadly mudslides cut off Vancouver from rest of Canada
At least one person has died in torrential rains that trapped motorists in mudslides, forced thousands to evacuate their homes and cut off Vancouver from the rest of Canada.
Updated / Wednesday, 17 Nov 2021 08:44
The extreme weather comes after British Columbia suffered record-high temperatures over the summer that killed more than 500 people, as well as wildfires that destroyed a town
At least one person has died in torrential rains that trapped motorists in mudslides, forced thousands to evacuate their homes and cut off Vancouver from the rest of Canada.
Search and rescue teams recovered the body of a woman from a mudslide near Lillooet, 250km north of Vancouver, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said.
Staff Sergeant Janelle Shoihet added that investigators have received two missing person reports, but that they believe "there may have been other occupied vehicles that were lost in the slide".
"The total number of people and vehicles unaccounted for has not been confirmed," she said.
The rains had let up by late yesterday afternoon. But mudslides, rocks and debris washed out several roads leading to Vancouver, trapping hundreds of motorists who were rescued by military helicopters by nightfall on Monday.
Local television showed video footage of the Trans Canada highway, which connects the coastal city to the rest of the country, inundated. A bridge was also washed out.
Other routes have also been closed, according to Drive BC, which said on Twitter: "Highways are closed until further notice."
As a result, motorists wanting to travel to or from Vancouver would have to travel south to the US and back up into Canada.
Anyone taking this circuitous route, however, would have to show proof of a negative Covid-19 test upon re-entry into Canada.
Landslides also cut off rail traffic to and from Vancouver - one of Canada's busiest freight sea ports.
"Both CN and CP Rail indicate that no rail traffic is currently able to transit between Kamloops and Vancouver," a port spokesperson said.
In Ottawa, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said his government is "watching closely" the evolving situation in British Columbia.
He was to speak with the province's premier, John Horgan, later in the day to see what federal help might be needed.
"We'll be there to help in any way, shape or form," he told reporters.
Record rainfall
Environment Canada said up to 250mm of rain - what the region normally gets in a month - fell on Sunday and Monday in and around Vancouver, which was also hit last week by a rare tornado.
The extreme weather comes after British Columbia suffered record-high temperatures over the summer that killed more than 500 people, as well as wildfires that destroyed a town.
On Tuesday, thousands of British Columbians were unable to return to their homes due to evacuation orders still in effect due to flooding in a dozen communities - including all of Merritt and parts of Abbotsford - and as many as 9,000 homes were without power.
In Merritt, flooding compromised the wastewater treatment plant, while thousands in Abbotsford reportedly slept in their cars on an elevated road overnight, as farms in the Fraser Valley were inundated.
Others took shelter at emergency sites set up across the province, with some also sleeping in church pews or at schools, local media said.
Oil pipelines shut down
Floods have also hampered pipelines. Enbridge Inc shut a segment of a British Columbia natural gas pipeline as a precaution.
The storms also forced the closure of the Trans Mountain pipeline, which carries up to 300,000 barrels per day of crude oil from Alberta to the Pacific Coast.
Copper and coal miner Teck Resources Limited said the floods had disrupted movement of its commodities to its export terminals, while potash exporter Canpotex Ltd said it was looking for alternatives to move the crop nutrient overseas.
Directly to the south of British Columbia, in Washington state, heavy rains forced evacuations and cut off electricity for over 150,000 households on Monday.
The US National Weather Service yesterday issued a flash flood in Mount Vernon, Washington, "due to the potential for a levee failure".