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Laurane

Canadian Loonie
Ya ferry termial twassian(spelling?) to nanaimo, cost the hell outta me with a boat in tow :confused:
The Ferry union went on surprise strike in 1973 summer, and we were stuck on the Island with an 18 month old for 10 days.....running back and forth to the Ferry Terminals along the coasts to get back to Vancouver and on to home in Alberta. Ended up ferrying to Seattle and driving back up into Canada - cost us a fortune in motel bills and ferry fare.
 

DefVoid

God Luck and good speed!
I live on Vancouver island.

That was the most crazy rain I’ve ever seen in my life. One for the record books. This event and the record breaking heatwave (51 Celsius )we had this summer have freaked many ppl out. Two record breaking events within months of each other.

On Sunday we strapped on all our rain gear and went for a hike to a waterfall. My kiddies had a blast jumping in puddles. It was a great day.

Yesterday morning I decided to stay home. And it’s a good thing I did or I would have been stuck on the other side of a 3 foot deep washout.

My sister in law came down from the okanagan for an event in Vancouver and is now cut off. They tried to go home the long way through whistler but got stuck on the highway as the road under them gave out. They had to leave their van and are now trying to fly home.

what a gong show
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
OK first I was aware of all three Vancouvers (including the one in Washington State I have a close friend who lives there) - but I mentioned boats as a way out from EITHER the Island, the coast (or both) because they have harbors and if you can't get out any other way a boat is often a good way to travel.

San Francisco isn't an island either but people were using boats and later ferries to get back and forth from Oakland both right after the quake (and people were terrified of a 1906 type of fire) and for transportation to and from work for months.

Also, this storm affected more than just the city of Vancouver, I know people on Whitby Island who have no power, internet, or other services. So the entire area is a mess, it is just the City of Vancouver is really in a mess.
 

parocan

Veteran Member
I live on Vancouver island.

That was the most crazy rain I’ve ever seen in my life. One for the record books. This event and the record breaking heatwave (51 Celsius )we had this summer have freaked many ppl out. Two record breaking events within months of each other.

On Sunday we strapped on all our rain gear and went for a hike to a waterfall. My kiddies had a blast jumping in puddles. It was a great day.

Yesterday morning I decided to stay home. And it’s a good thing I did or I would have been stuck on the other side of a 3 foot deep washout.

My sister in law came down from the okanagan for an event in Vancouver and is now cut off. They tried to go home the long way through whistler but got stuck on the highway as the road under them gave out. They had to leave their van and are now trying to fly home.

what a gong show
Hey, kewl another Van Islander. It was nuts where we live as well, thankfully only lost power for a few hours.
We are on the same grid as Canwest mall so we get our power back faster then most. Just topped off our truck
this morning. Hopefully they get the malahat highway open both ways soon rather then alternating traffic. They even
ran the ferry that runs from millbay to brentwood bay all night last night to try and alleviate traffic that was stuck
down here overnight.
 
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PalmettoGirl

Contributing Member
OK first I was aware of all three Vancouvers (including the one in Washington State I have a close friend who lives there) - but I mentioned boats as a way out from EITHER the Island, the coast (or both) because they have harbors and if you can't get out any other way a boat is often a good way to travel.

San Francisco isn't an island either but people were using boats and later ferries to get back and forth from Oakland both right after the quake (and people were terrified of a 1906 type of fire) and for transportation to and from work for months.

Also, this storm affected more than just the city of Vancouver, I know people on Whitby Island who have no power, internet, or other services. So the entire area is a mess, it is just the City of Vancouver is really in a mess.
They definitely have a harbor in Vancouver. I flew into Vancouver for an Alaskan cruise on Norwegian cruise line. Unfortunately, we flew in the evening before our morning cruise so I didn’t get to see much of the city.
 

bracketquant

Senior Member
Pea soup, meat pie, cipaille, poutine, pea meal bacon and pancakes with maple syrup.

That's great for solid food.

Otherwise, Alexander Keith's, Labatt, Molson, Moosehead, Sleeman, and for good measure Unibroue (La Fin Du Monde).

Either one of each, or a six pack of one, with the exception of Unibroue. A six pack of that could be one's last meal.
 

bracketquant

Senior Member
And remember Hockey Night! That along with the beer will alleviate much angst.

I notice on the NHL schedule that the Avalanche (ironically) are scheduled to be in Vancouver tomorrow night, followed by 'peg coming in later this week. If those games get postponed, there's liable to be serious backlash!

It's only peripherally relevant, but the old story in Canada is that doggie style was invented up there so Mom and Dad both could watch the game on Hockey Night.
Canadians know how to puck.
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
I live on Vancouver island.

That was the most crazy rain I’ve ever seen in my life. One for the record books. This event and the record breaking heatwave (51 Celsius )we had this summer have freaked many ppl out. Two record breaking events within months of each other.

On Sunday we strapped on all our rain gear and went for a hike to a waterfall. My kiddies had a blast jumping in puddles. It was a great day.

Yesterday morning I decided to stay home. And it’s a good thing I did or I would have been stuck on the other side of a 3 foot deep washout.

My sister in law came down from the okanagan for an event in Vancouver and is now cut off. They tried to go home the long way through whistler but got stuck on the highway as the road under them gave out. They had to leave their van and are now trying to fly home.

what a gong show
BC has such a diverse terrain and climate, that you could get stuck anywhere with a weather event at any time if the year…. I know it hit hot there this summer but 51C is crazy…. Think we had a 46 in penticton one year when the fires raged. At least their airports are open in OK.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
What a difference 500 miles makes, from Vancouver, BC to Portland Oregon.

It is SUNNY AND 52 FARENHEIT RIGHT NOW.
The chance of rain today is under 15% and will be ONE PERCENT NOON TOMMORROW.

And yeah, it is prepping when you do it BEFORE TSHTF, and HOARDING if you do it like this guy plans too to.

Trudeau is the head moron in Canada, so if they ain't combat prepped then they are :poop: out of luck.

It will likely take WEEKS to fully repair that level of damage to the transport system. Some quick fixes on landslides etc are doable in one week or so, maybe some Canadian army combat engineers doing bridge repair with those HUGE mobile bridge tracked blobs we used back in the 1970's.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
NOW THAT IS WHAT DOOMER DOUG CALLS A ROAD REPAIR VEHCILE. :eleph:



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Double_A

TB Fanatic
Those are Eastern Canadian meals...... in the West we could have moose, deer, fries, BBQ anything, scalloped corn/potatoes....and pancakes with syrup (any kind)
"Fries" ?

Times have changed, lol.

ok it's been that way for a while. Those don't ask me if I want grilled or raw onions on my burger anymore either.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Provincial posted Nov 15, 2021 @ 12:30pm by Josh Duncan
Vancouver is now completely cut off from the rest of Canada by road


There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada.

The Lower Mainland and Fraser Valley are now completely cut off from the rest of British Columbia and the country by road.

<who>Photo Credit: Linda Corscadden</who>The southbound lanes of the Coquihalla Highway have been completely washed out near Othello Tunnels.

Photo Credit: Linda Corscadden
The southbound lanes of the Coquihalla Highway have been completely washed out near Othello Tunnels.

Flooding and mudslides had closed most routes between the coast and BC Interior over the past 24 hours, but the back route through Whistler on Hwy 99 remained open this morning.
That changed shortly after 11 am, when DriveBC reported that a mudslide 42 kilometres south of Lillooet had shut down Hwy 99 as well.
The only way to drive between the coast and the rest of Canada at this time is through the United States.
However, Washington is also seeing highway closures due to the inclement weather and residents would need a COVID-19 test to re-enter Canada.


Here’s a full list of mainland BC highways currently closed:
  • Hwy 1 between Hope and Lytton
  • Hwy 1 between Lytton and Spences Bridge
  • Hwy 3 between Hope and Manning Park
  • Hwy 3 between Princeton and Keremeos
  • Hwy 3 near Fernie
  • Hwy 5 between Hope and Merritt
  • Hwy 7 on both sides of Agassiz
  • Hwy 7 between Maple Ridge and Mission
  • Hwy 11 between Mission and Abbotsford
  • Hwy 93 between Radium Hot Springs and the BC-Alberta border
  • Hwy 99 between Pemberton and Lillooet
They may want to consult the Japanese for a fix for this problem, they had roads like this back up and running within a few days after that massive tsunami hit in 2011.
 

Shooter

Veteran Member
 

CanadianGuy

Veteran Member
I live on Vancouver island.

That was the most crazy rain I’ve ever seen in my life. One for the record books. This event and the record breaking heatwave (51 Celsius )we had this summer have freaked many ppl out. Two record breaking events within months of each other.

On Sunday we strapped on all our rain gear and went for a hike to a waterfall. My kiddies had a blast jumping in puddles. It was a great day.

Yesterday morning I decided to stay home. And it’s a good thing I did or I would have been stuck on the other side of a 3 foot deep washout.

My sister in law came down from the okanagan for an event in Vancouver and is now cut off. They tried to go home the long way through whistler but got stuck on the highway as the road under them gave out. They had to leave their van and are now trying to fly home.

what a gong show
Hi I graduated high school in 1982 in Port Hardy. Where are you?
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
I did a little more research and it looks like where I used to live in the late 1970's, Bellingham, Washington took a big hit from flooding also. Bellingham is south of Vancouver BC. Whatcom county must have gotten creamed also. Sheesh, they need water desperately all up and down the west coast, except in that immediate area of Bellingham, Vancouver BC. Oh well.
 

Siskiyoumom

Veteran Member
I did a little more research and it looks like where I used to live in the late 1970's, Bellingham, Washington took a big hit from flooding also. Bellingham is south of Vancouver BC. Whatcom county must have gotten creamed also. Sheesh, they need water desperately all up and down the west coast, except in that immediate area of Bellingham, Vancouver BC. Oh well.
Just saw photos on face book about the empty store shelves in Bellingham.
Costco was out of stock on TP, sweet peppers, onions, oranges, milk, bread, coffee, all meat, beer.
 

parocan

Veteran Member
The amount of damage is amazing, the Coquihalla highway will be out of commission for awhile I suspect
with the amount of damage. It was 1 of the better highways even though it's called the highway through
hell. The mudslide on highway 99, unfortunately killed 1 they know for sure. between 3 - 10 cars were involved
they won't know for sure till the area is cleaned up. It's going to be awhile before Bc recovers from this. The town
of merrit still is evacuated. They might be able to return in a week, just in time for the next batch of rain.
Sadly I think it could get worse as according to weather maps, we have more rain coming in via the pineapple
express towards the middle/end of next week into the weekend.
View: https://twitter.com/KamilKaramali/status/1460691884041400322
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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The amount of damage is amazing, the Coquihalla highway will be out of commission for awhile I suspect
with the amount of damage. It was 1 of the better highways even though it's called the highway through
hell. The mudslide on highway 99, unfortunately killed 1 they know for sure. between 3 - 10 cars were involved
they won't know for sure till the area is cleaned up. It's going to be awhile before Bc recovers from this. The town
of merrit still is evacuated. They might be able to return in a week, just in time for the next batch of rain.
Sadly I think it could get worse as according to weather maps, we have more rain coming in via the pineapple
express towards the middle/end of next week into the weekend.
View: https://twitter.com/KamilKaramali/status/1460691884041400322
Thanks for the updates and please stay safe out there.
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie

This is BC today....... all of Lytton village burned this summer, Merritt flooded 2 years in a row......Abbotsford is low farm land. The mountain passes are flooded and collapsed over the edges onto rail tracks. Military helicopters rescuing people. Princeton 40 miles from where I lived, Kelowna 30 miles north, Sicamous the Houseboat capital of Canada on Mara Lake, all across the province is in a mess. Highway #1 is the Trans Canada, but Vancouver seems fine, just no access.

How does it all get cleared up before winter sets in?
 
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tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
How does it all get cleared up before winter sets in?
Vancouver, BC is pretty much like Seattle. Winter generally means rain rather than snow although of course they can get snow, and I suspect Vancouver reacts to snow much like Seattle and Portland (which is to say, half an inch means it's the Snowpocalypse).
 

zeker

Veteran Member
Vancouver, BC is pretty much like Seattle. Winter generally means rain rather than snow although of course they can get snow, and I suspect Vancouver reacts to snow much like Seattle and Portland (which is to say, half an inch means it's the Snowpocalypse).
when I lived in northern BC (kitimat, stewart) the big prob was snowload..

5 ft dump was not unusual (2? yrs ago 7 ft)

and then weeks of rain

the roofs were built for major snow

but even then, they needed to be cleared

Kitimat had the best snow removal I have ever seen

grader came down each rd and put it all in the center of the rd

huge snowblower came by afterward

and put it onto folks lawns (not their driveways)
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
This morning from RTE (Irish National News broadcaster) this looks EXTREMELY bad and will start affecting the US in a number of ways - from oil pipelines shut to access to Vancouver only by going via the US (I imagine truckers and relief will have to do this in the short term, followed by sea and air cargo emergency shipments). As I said yesterday, parts of Washington State are also affected but the oil shut down will make it worse I suspect.
Deadly mudslides cut off Vancouver from rest of Canada
Updated / Wednesday, 17 Nov 2021 08:44

The extreme weather comes after British Columbia suffered record-high temperatures over the summer that killed more than 500 people, as well as wildfires that destroyed a town

The extreme weather comes after British Columbia suffered record-high temperatures over the summer that killed more than 500 people, as well as wildfires that destroyed a town

At least one person has died in torrential rains that trapped motorists in mudslides, forced thousands to evacuate their homes and cut off Vancouver from the rest of Canada.

Search and rescue teams recovered the body of a woman from a mudslide near Lillooet, 250km north of Vancouver, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said.

Staff Sergeant Janelle Shoihet added that investigators have received two missing person reports, but that they believe "there may have been other occupied vehicles that were lost in the slide".

"The total number of people and vehicles unaccounted for has not been confirmed," she said.

The rains had let up by late yesterday afternoon. But mudslides, rocks and debris washed out several roads leading to Vancouver, trapping hundreds of motorists who were rescued by military helicopters by nightfall on Monday.

Local television showed video footage of the Trans Canada highway, which connects the coastal city to the rest of the country, inundated. A bridge was also washed out.



Other routes have also been closed, according to Drive BC, which said on Twitter: "Highways are closed until further notice."


As a result, motorists wanting to travel to or from Vancouver would have to travel south to the US and back up into Canada.

Anyone taking this circuitous route, however, would have to show proof of a negative Covid-19 test upon re-entry into Canada.

Landslides also cut off rail traffic to and from Vancouver - one of Canada's busiest freight sea ports.

"Both CN and CP Rail indicate that no rail traffic is currently able to transit between Kamloops and Vancouver," a port spokesperson said.

In Ottawa, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said his government is "watching closely" the evolving situation in British Columbia.

He was to speak with the province's premier, John Horgan, later in the day to see what federal help might be needed.

"We'll be there to help in any way, shape or form," he told reporters.



Record rainfall

Environment Canada said up to 250mm of rain - what the region normally gets in a month - fell on Sunday and Monday in and around Vancouver, which was also hit last week by a rare tornado.

The extreme weather comes after British Columbia suffered record-high temperatures over the summer that killed more than 500 people, as well as wildfires that destroyed a town.

On Tuesday, thousands of British Columbians were unable to return to their homes due to evacuation orders still in effect due to flooding in a dozen communities - including all of Merritt and parts of Abbotsford - and as many as 9,000 homes were without power.

In Merritt, flooding compromised the wastewater treatment plant, while thousands in Abbotsford reportedly slept in their cars on an elevated road overnight, as farms in the Fraser Valley were inundated.

Others took shelter at emergency sites set up across the province, with some also sleeping in church pews or at schools, local media said.


Oil pipelines shut down

Floods have also hampered pipelines. Enbridge Inc shut a segment of a British Columbia natural gas pipeline as a precaution.

The storms also forced the closure of the Trans Mountain pipeline, which carries up to 300,000 barrels per day of crude oil from Alberta to the Pacific Coast.

Copper and coal miner Teck Resources Limited said the floods had disrupted movement of its commodities to its export terminals, while potash exporter Canpotex Ltd said it was looking for alternatives to move the crop nutrient overseas.

Directly to the south of British Columbia, in Washington state, heavy rains forced evacuations and cut off electricity for over 150,000 households on Monday.

The US National Weather Service yesterday issued a flash flood in Mount Vernon, Washington, "due to the potential for a levee failure".


 
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