INTL 'Volcano tsunami' hits Indonesia after Krakatoa eruption

Melodi

Disaster Cat
'Volcano tsunami' hits Indonesia after Krakatoa eruption
12 minutes ago

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Anak Krakatoa has erupted a number of times in recent months: this image was taken in July

At least 20 people have been killed and 165 injured after a tsunami hit the coast around Indonesia's Sunda Strait, government officials say.


The country's disaster management agency says two people are missing, and dozens of buildings were damaged.

It says the possible cause of the tsunami were undersea landslides after the Krakatoa volcano erupted.

The Sunda Strait between the islands of Java and Sumatra connects the Java Sea to the Indian Ocean.

The deaths were reported in the Pandeglang, South Lampung and Serang regions.

Footage posted by the head of the disaster management agency showed the aftermath of the tsunami, with flooded streets and an overturned car.


He had earlier posted footage of water rushing in and local residents trying to flee in panic.

Emergency officials are now investigating whether the tsunami was caused by Krakatoa, a volcanic island in the Sunda Strait.

In September, more than 2,000 people died when a powerful earthquake struck just off the central Indonesian island of Sulawesi, setting off a tsunami that engulfed the coastal city of Palu.
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A town smashed to pulp in minutes
The child who came back from the dead after tsunami
Indonesia is prone to earthquakes because it lies on the Ring of Fire - the line of frequent quakes and volcanic eruptions that circles virtually the entire Pacific rim.

The Anak Krakatoa (Child of Krakatoa) volcano has reported increased activity in recent months.

Indonesia's geologic agency said that the volcano erupted for two minutes and 12 seconds on Friday, creating an ash cloud that rose 400 metres above the mountain.

It recommended that no-one be allowed within two kilometres of the crater.
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A satellite image of Anak Krakatoa erupting in August
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Melodi

Disaster Cat
Indonesia tsunami: at least 20 dead as beaches around Sunda Strait hit

National disaster management agency says at least 165 injured after tsunami, which could be linked to volcanic eruption

Associated Press

Sun 23 Dec 2018 00.24 GMT First published on Sat 22 Dec 2018 23.21 GMT

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Anak Krakatoa volcano
The Anak Krakatoa volcano in the Sunda strait, Indonesia. Photograph: Beawiharta/Reuters

Government officials say that at least 20 people have been killed after a tsunami hit the coast around Indonesia’s Sunda Strait. The national disaster management agency says 165 people were hurt and dozens of buildings were damaged early on Sunday morning, according to the BBC.

The agency added that one possible cause of the tsunami was undersea landslides after the Krakatoa volcano erupted. The Sunda Strait, between the islands of Java and Sumatra, connects the Java Sea to the Indian Ocean.


The BBC reports that footage posted by the head of the disaster management agency showed the aftermath of the tsunami, with flooded streets and an overturned car.

In September, at least 832 people were killed by a quake and tsunami that hit the city of Palu on the island of Sulawesi, which is just east of Borneo.

This is a breaking news event. More to follow
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...talities-as-tsunami-hits-beaches-in-indonesia
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
That one is a cinder cone volcano if I'm not mistaken and it could really blow and the whole cone could go in every direction.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
With that many dead and injured, I'm surprised there is not more news out on this. No reports? No videos?


Going to look....
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Wish Mz Kitty were on---I know she'd be finding tweets (with videos) by the dozen for us---I'm no good at all on searching Twitter....
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Supposedly "live" coverage---even if NOT live, very informative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tQ3r-IvgxA

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At least 20 are dead and 165 injured after a tsunami in Indonesia possibly caused by a volcano eruption. Get the latest details in our LIVE BREAKING NEWS COVERAGE.

Indonesian authorities say the tsunami was possibly caused by undersea landslides after the Krakatoa volcano erupted. In this interactive live stream, host Steve Lookner brings you the latest updates on the "volcano tsunami" in Indonesia, and he'll also read your comments and questions on the air!

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Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Run time 5:43---video of incoming Tsunami (other site witness reports of tsunami being 10 ft high or more)---

frightening---

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaaROc7axbE

NOTE---ONLY the first minute and a half or so is about the Indonesian tsunami---the rest he goes off on rabbit trails about cows dying in India and such---just watch for the tsunami footage....
 

blackjeep

The end times are here.
Supposedly "live" coverage---even if NOT live, very informative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tQ3r-IvgxA

Agenda-Free TV
Started streaming 3 hours ago
At least 20 are dead and 165 injured after a tsunami in Indonesia possibly caused by a volcano eruption. Get the latest details in our LIVE BREAKING NEWS COVERAGE.

Indonesian authorities say the tsunami was possibly caused by undersea landslides after the Krakatoa volcano erupted. In this interactive live stream, host Steve Lookner brings you the latest updates on the "volcano tsunami" in Indonesia, and he'll also read your comments and questions on the air!

Follow us on Twitter! http://twitter.com/AgendaFreeTV
Follow us on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/AgendaFreeTV
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They showed 43 dead on the YouTube channel you posted.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Well SHOOT----as soon as I FOUND some live coverage of the eruption / tsunami, the guy went off the air---"agenda-free TV" now says "Coverage has concluded"--

don't know if he's going to archive and post the 3 hours of video he HAD done on this or not---not up so far...
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
They showed 43 dead on the YouTube channel you posted.

Yeah--he said (BEFORE he went off the air, just now) that "this situation seems to be STILL ONGOING"--from which i understood the volcano is STILL ERUPTING....

anyone able to find out anything? Maybe on twitter?
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Found out a photographer who has his own website (www.oysteinlundamundsen.com) was a personal witness to the tsunami as he was on the beach taking pictures of the ERUPTING volcano when the tsunami hit.

His eye-witness account and a picture of the volcano (remember---the volcano is out to see 30-40 MILES from where this shore is!) are below.

ALL December pics of the volcano that WERE on his website are now not up--I suppose AP or some other news agency has bought and is holding them.
 

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Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
AP news article---latest I've found on the event:

https://apnews.com/e91d55a6b39542c0...AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

Tsunami triggered by volcano kills at least 43 in Indonesia

By ALI KOTARUMALOS4 minutes ago

JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) — A tsunami apparently caused by the eruption of an island volcano killed at least 43 people around Indonesia’s Sunda Strait, sending a wall of water crashing some 65 feet (20 meters) inland and sweeping away hundreds of houses including hotels, the government and witnesses said.

Some 600 people have been reported injured when the tsunami hit 9:27 p.m. Saturday, the Disaster Management Agency said.

Scientists from Indonesia’s Meteorology and Geophysics agency said it could have been caused by undersea landslides from the eruption of Anak Krakatau, a volcanic island formed over years from the nearby Krakatau volcano. They also cited tidal waves caused by the full moon.

“I had to run, as the wave passed the beach and landed 15-20m (meters) inland,” Norwegian Øystein Lund Andersen wrote on Facebook. He said he was taking pictures of the volcano when he suddenly saw a big wave come toward him.

“Next wave entered the hotel area where I was staying and downed cars on the road behind it. Managed to evacuate with my family to higher ground trough forest paths and villages, where we are taken care of (by) the locals. Were unharmed, thankfully.”

The worst affected area was the Pandeglang region of Banten province in Java, which encompasses the Ujung Kulon National Park and popular beaches, the disaster agency said. Of the deaths, 33 were in Pandeglang.

In the city of Bandar Lampung on southern Sumatra, hundreds of residents took refuge at the governor’s office.

Alif, a resident in Pandeglang district who goes by one name, said told MetroTV station that many people were still searching for missing relatives.

The Anak Krakatau volcano in the Sunda Strait that links the Indian Ocean and Java Sea erupted about 24 minutes before the tsunami, the geophysics agency said.

The 305-meter (1,000-foot) -high volcano, about 200 kilometers (124 miles) southwest of capital Jakarta, has been erupting since June. In July, authorities widened its no-go areas to 2 kilometers (1.24 miles) from the crater.

Gegar Prasetya, co-founder of the Tsunami Research Center Indonesia, said the waves were likely caused by a flank collapse — when a big section of a volcano’s slope gives way. He said it’s possible for an eruption to trigger a landslide above ground or beneath the ocean, both capable of producing a tsunami.

“Actually, the tsunami was not really big, only one meter,” said Prasetya, who has closely studied Krakatau. “The problem is people always tend to build everything close to the shoreline.”

Physical losses included 430 heavily damaged homes, nine heavily damaged hotels and 10 heavily damaged vessels. Footage posted by the head of the disaster agency showed the aftermath of flooded streets and an overturned car.

In September, more than 2,500 people were killed by a quake and tsunami that hit the city of Palu on the island of Sulawesi, which is just east of Borneo.



Interesting the article mentions Indonesian scientists citing "the full moon", as reports I've read said that at first officials would NOT report that any volcanic activity had caused this, but tried to say it was just "high tides due to the full moon."
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
https://twitter.com/PMBreakingNews/status/1076663686977204224?s=20

PM Breaking News
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@PMBreakingNews
Breaking Video: Tsunami wave crashes into a venue while a band performs in Indonesia.

Don't know if this will post correctly, but here are the links to the videos themselves---one of the band being inundated and the other of the wave crashing ashore at Anyer Beach, Indonesia:


 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Found out a photographer who has his own website (www.oysteinlundamundsen.com) was a personal witness to the tsunami as he was on the beach taking pictures of the ERUPTING volcano when the tsunami hit.

His eye-witness account and a picture of the volcano (remember---the volcano is out to see 30-40 MILES from where this shore is!) are below.

ALL December pics of the volcano that WERE on his website are now not up--I suppose AP or some other news agency has bought and is holding them.

HERE is the link to this photographer's Facebook page with the ORIGINAL of the above picture:

https://www.facebook.com/Oystein.Lu...T3i54pS2CNlHySJJgIqGAE35lFWwx_-8L_Fpg&fref=nf
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
For links see article source.....
Posted for fair use.....
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...3-in-indonesia-injures-hundreds-idUSKCN1OL0P2

World News December 22, 2018 / 3:02 PM / Updated 29 minutes ago

Krakatau-triggered tsunami kills at least 43 in Indonesia, injures hundreds

Wilda Asmarini, Tabita Diela
5 Min Read

JAKARTA (Reuters) - A tsunami killed at least 43 people and injured hundreds on the Indonesian islands of Java and Sumatra following an underwater landslide caused by the eruption of Krakatau, officials said on Sunday.

Hundreds of homes and other buildings were “heavily damaged” in the tsunami which struck along the rim of the Sunda Strait late on Saturday.

It was the latest in a series of tragedies that have struck Indonesia, a vast archipelago, this year. Successive earthquakes flattened parts of the tourist island of Lombok, and a double quake-and-tsunami killed thousands on Sulawesi island. Nearly 200 people died when a Lion Air passenger plane crashed into the Java Sea in October.

Authorities warned residents and tourists in coastal areas around the Sunda Strait to stay away from beaches and a high-tide warning remained in place through till Dec. 25.

“Please do not be around the beaches around the Sunda Strait. Those who have evacuated, please do not return yet,” said Rahmat Triyono, an official at the Meteorology, Climatology and Geophysics Agency (BMKG).

TV footage showed roads blocked by debris from damaged houses, overturned cars and fallen trees. The water washed away an outdoor stage where a local rock band was performing, killling at least one musician. Others were missing.

On Dec. 26 in 2004, an Indian Ocean tsunami triggered by an earthquake killed 226,000 people in 13 countries, including more than 120,000 in Indonesia. The eruption of Krakatau in 1883 killed more than 36,000 people in a series of tsunamis.

Endan Permana, head of the disaster mitigation agency in Pandeglang, told Metro TV police were providing assistance to victims in Tanjung Lesung in Banten province, a popular tourist getaway not far from the capital, Jakarta, as emergency workers had not arrived.

“Many are missing,” Permana said.

At least seven people were reported dead in Lampung in southern Sumatra.

Rescue workers and ambulances were finding it difficult to reach the affected areas because some roads were blocked by debris, said Ketut Sukerta, head of the disaster agency in South Lampung.

“WASHED AWAY”
Around 250 employees of the state utility company PLN had gathered in Tanjung Lesung for an end-of-year event, company spokesman I Made Suprateka told Reuters. At least seven people were killed and many suffered broken bones, he said.

Dramatic TV footage showed the seconds when waves hit a concert at the event and washed away the stage where local rock band Seventeen was performing.

“The water washed away the stage which was located very close to the sea,” the band said in a statement. “The water rose and dragged away everyone at the location. We have lost loved ones, including our bassist and manager...and others are missing.”

The disaster mitigation agency said it was still compiling information on the disaster and there was a “possibility that data on the victims and damage will increase”.

The tsunami was caused by “an undersea landslide resulting from volcanic activity on Anak Krakatau” and was exacerbated by abnormally high tide because of the full moon, disaster agency spokesman Sutopo Purwo Nugroho said.

Anak Krakatau, an active volcano which is located roughly halfway between Java and Sumatra and has been spewing ash and lava for months, erupted again just after 9 p.m. on Saturday and the tsunami struck at around 9.30 p.m., according to BMKG.

Anak Krakatau is the island that emerged from an area once occupied by Krakatau, which was completely destroyed in the 1883 disaster. It first appeared in 1927 and has been growing ever since.

Coastal residents reported not seeing or feeling any warning signs, like receding water or an earthquake, before waves of up to two meters washed ashore, according to media.

“The tsunami hit several areas of the Sunda Strait, including beaches in Pandeglang regency, Serang, and South Lampung,” the agency said.

Nugroho told Metro TV that tsunamis triggered by volcanic eruptions were “rare” and that the Sunda Strait tsunami had not resulted from an earthquake.

“There was no earthquake, and the Anak Krakatau eruption also wasn’t that big,” Nugroho told Metro TV, noting there were no “significant” seismic tremors to indicate a tsunami was coming.

The eruption created a column of volcanic ash up to 500 meters high.

Additional reporting by Jessica Damiana, Gayatri Suroyo; Writing by Fergus Jensen and Kanupriya Kapoor; Editing by Nick Macfie
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
Seen one video show some footage of the surge of water rushing up a street and people running just seconds before and then a river of water and then cars and trucks can be seen floating by.
This was on YouTube and just go to youtube and enter "Volcano" in the search you will find it.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Haven't seen any videos other than those already mentioned. That party band one was horrible; that's the one making the rounds everywhere. There was a lot of destruction, as would be expected.

:(


AFP news agency
‏Verified account @AFP
1m1 minute ago

#BREAKING Death toll hits 168 after Indonesia tsunami: officials
 

medic38572

TB Fanatic
read about this an hour ago on facebook. it might explain the weird ear tones though.

I had ear tones for 2 days then it was gone when I got up yesterday. But have had a weird feeling in the pit of my stomach something bad was gonna happen. Its gone now. I posted about in MLT.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I had ear tones for 2 days then it was gone when I got up yesterday. But have had a weird feeling in the pit of my stomach something bad was gonna happen. Its gone now. I posted about in MLT.


Yeah the ear tones were really weird this time around, me thinks she isn't done blowing her wad.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
West Mids News
‏ @HeartWMidsNews
43s43 seconds ago

#BREAKING The death toll in the Indonesia tsunami has risen to 222, with 843 injured and 28 missing, the country's disaster agency has said #HeartNews
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Death toll expected to rise - they are not even trying to estimate the number of dead and missing at this time - this doesn't sound good..

And yep Packy I had a weird ear tone too - but since it was in my bum ear I ignored it - silly me....

Indonesia tsunami death toll rises to 222, at least 843 injured

Anak Krakatau erupts, triggering underwater landslide

Tsunami washes band members from stage

Death toll has risen to 222, with 843 injured and 28 missing, the country’s disaster agency has said

Disaster strikes 14 years after Boxing Day tsunami kills 226,000
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Residents collect debris from their collapsed house after it was hit by a tsunami at Panimbang district in Pandeglang, Banten province, Indonesia, December 23, 2018, in this photo taken by Antara Foto. Antara Foto/Muhammad Bagus Khoirunas/ via REUTERS16

Johan Purnomo and Adi Kurniawan

December 23 2018 8:09 AM


The death toll in the Indonesia tsunami has risen to 222, with 843 injured and 28 missing, the country’s disaster agency has said.

The tsunami occurred on the Indonesian islands of Java and Sumatra following an underwater landslide believed caused by the erupting Anak Krakatau volcano, officials and media said on Sunday.


Hundreds of homes and other buildings were "heavily damaged" when the tsunami struck along the rim of the Sunda Strait late on Saturday, Sutopo Purwo Nugroho, spokesman for the disaster mitigation agency, said.

Thousands of residents were forced to evacuate to higher ground. There was no estimate on the number of missing.


TV images showed the seconds when the tsunami hit the beach and residential areas in Pandeglang on Java island, dragging with it victims, debris, and large chunks of wood and metal.

On Dec. 26 in 2004, an Indian Ocean tsunami triggered by an earthquake killed 226,000 people in 13 countries, including more than 120,000 in Indonesia.

Residents inspect body bags as they search for family members outside a local health center following a tsunami at Panimbang district in Pandeglang, Banten province, Indonesia, December 23, 2018. REUTERS/Adi Kurniawan16
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The eruption of Krakatau in 1883 killed more than 36,000 people in a series of tsunamis. Anak Krakatau is the island that emerged from the area once occupied by Krakatau, which was destroyed in 1883. It first appeared in 1927 and has been growing ever since.

Saturday's tsunami was the latest in a series of tragedies that have struck Indonesia, a vast archipelago, this year. Successive earthquakes flattened parts of the tourist island of Lombok, and a double quake-and-tsunami killed thousands on Sulawesi island. Nearly 200 people died when a Lion Air passenger plane crashed into the Java Sea in October.


Authorities warned residents and tourists in coastal areas around the Sunda Strait to stay away from beaches and a high-tide warning remained in place through till Dec. 25.

"Those who have evacuated, please do not return yet," said Rahmat Triyono, an official at the Meteorology, Climatology and Geophysics Agency (BMKG).

President Joko Widodo, who is running for re-election in April, said on Twitter that he had "ordered all relevant government agencies to immediately take emergency response steps, find victims and care for the injured".

Vice President Jusuf Kalla told a news conference the death toll would "likely increase".


Rescue workers and ambulances were finding it difficult to reach affected areas because some roads were blocked by debris from damaged houses, overturned cars and fallen trees.

The waves washed away an outdoor stage where a local rock band was performing in Tanjung Lesung in Banten province, a popular tourist getaway not far from the capital, Jakarta, killing at least one musician. Others were missing.


The western coast of Banten province in Java was the worst-hit area, Nugroho told reporters in Yogyakarta. He said at least 35 people were reported dead in Lampung in southern Sumatra.

Around 250 employees of the state utility company PLN had gathered in Tanjung Lesung for an end-of-year event, company spokesman I Made Suprateka told Reuters. At least seven people were killed, and around 89 are missing, he said.

Dramatic TV footage showed the seconds when the tsunami hit a concert at the event and washed away the stage where local rock band Seventeen was performing.

"The water washed away the stage which was located very close to the sea," the band said in a statement. "The water rose and dragged away everyone at the location. We have lost loved ones, including our bassist and manager...and others are missing."

Coastal residents reported not seeing or feeling any warning signs, like receding water or an earthquake, before waves of up to two metres washed ashore, according to media.

A man inspects his house which was damaged by a tsunami, in Carita, Indonesia, Sunday, Dec. 23, 2018. (AP Photo/Dian Triyuli Handoko)
But authorities said a warning siren went off in some areas.

Officials were trying to determine the exact cause of the disaster. Anak Krakatau, an active volcano roughly halfway between Java and Sumatra, has been spewing ash and lava for months. It erupted again just after 9 p.m. on Saturday and the tsunami struck at around 9.30 p.m., according to BMKG.

The tsunami was caused by "an undersea landslide resulting from volcanic activity on Anak Krakatau" and was exacerbated by abnormally high tide because of the full moon, Nugroho said.

Ben van der Pluijm, an earthquake geologist and a professor in the University of Michigan, said the tsunami may have been caused by a "partial collapse" of Anak Krakatau.

"Instability of the slope of an active volcano can create a rock slide that moves a large volume of water, creating local tsunami waves that can be very powerful. This is like suddenly dropping a bag of sand in a tub filled with water," he said.

Neighbouring Malaysia and Australia both said they were ready to provide assistance if needed.

https://www.independent.ie/world-ne...ses-to-222-at-least-843-injured-37653061.html
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Video posted here earlier.

Rob Frazier
‏ @RobRambler_
18m18 minutes ago

#BREAKING Shocking video: Indonesia #tsunami hits pop band 'Seventeen' #news #trendingnow #sundaymorning

*snip*

Dramatic video posted on social media showed a wall of water suddenly crashing into an open-air concert by pop group "Seventeen" -- hurling band members off the stage and then flooding into the audience.

In a tearful Instagram post, frontman Riefian Fajarsyah said the band´s bassist and road manager had been killed.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/409858-shocking-video-indonesia-tsunami-hits-pop-band-seventeen
 

mzkitty

I give up.
More of the band members dead or missing:


*snip*


Jaw-dropping footage emerging Sunday shows a giant tsunami wave sweeping away a boy band mid-performance in Indonesia.

Crowds can be seen in the shocking video swaying along to a beach-side Saturday performance by the rock band Seventeen — seconds before the natural disaster hits, engulfing the stage.

Loud shrieks can be heard before the 11-second video goes dark.

The band confirmed that their bassist M Awal Purbani, guitarist Herman Sikumbang and their road manager Oki Wijaya were dead.

“The water washed away the stage… and dragged away everyone at the location,” the statement said.

Two other musicians, a crewmember and the wife of the band’s frontman are still missing.

“Please pray that we can find Andi, Herman and Ujang and my wife,” the lead singer, Riefian Fajarsyah, said in a tearful Instagram video.

https://politicalreporter.net/2018/...d-mid-performance-in-indonesia-new-york-post/
 

Faroe

Un-spun
Couldn't happen to a better place imho.
Mostly muslims.

Plenty of better places.

Could be I've missed it, but I don't hear of hoards of Indonesians invading the West. Doesn't seem to be part of the national consciousness. Now Pakistan or Somalia...since the people of those nations are delighted to destroy us, I would prefer to see the next tsunami take out them out. 'eff em all to Hell.

All Islam is bad, but some is worse than others. (Also, some populations seem to be more enthusiastic about Islam than others. Persia was conquered. Not an expert, but as I understand it, from some reading, Indonesia's people may be in a similar situation. - seems to depend on how degenerate the local genetics are.)
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
Slightly off topic, but this was very weird and seeing this headline pop up yesterday evening because I had just watched a movie and a documenatry earlier in the day about the 2004 tsunami that hit that area. I was also reading about the huge explosion of Krakatoa in the 1800's which was so loud it burst people's eardrums 40 miles away. It was surreal to suddenly see a headline involving Krakatoa and another tsunami in that region the same day.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
I'm now finding out the volcano "Krakatoa" has collapsed and is currently erupting as I write this and all this happened post tsunami.
 

7th trump

Contributing Member
The lead singer in the rock band said he yelled out for Jesus Christ to help him when the water rushed through.

Lol.....
A person that is and makes it his business to be an idol to others (idol worshipping) cries out to Christ for help.
Sounds ironic doesnt it?
No surprise in the outcome.
 

7th trump

Contributing Member
Plenty of better places.

Could be I've missed it, but I don't hear of hoards of Indonesians invading the West. Doesn't seem to be part of the national consciousness. Now Pakistan or Somalia...since the people of those nations are delighted to destroy us, I would prefer to see the next tsunami take out them out. 'eff em all to Hell.

All Islam is bad, but some is worse than others. (Also, some populations seem to be more enthusiastic about Islam than others. Persia was conquered. Not an expert, but as I understand it, from some reading, Indonesia's people may be in a similar situation. - seems to depend on how degenerate the local genetics are.)

Muslims are muslims...are well just muslims.
If indonesia can be conquered by these muslim animals without a fight then so be it. They deserve what they get. I personally cannot see how converting to muslim is an advantage when its nothing but a dominating religion where nothing is valued, not your wife or your daughter.
Muslims are not a blessed people.
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
Lol.....
A person that is and makes it his business to be an idol to others (idol worshipping) cries out to Christ for help.
Sounds ironic doesnt it?
No surprise in the outcome.

No. It sounds like God gave him the grace to reach out to Him when the man needed Him the most. He lived.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Couldn't happen to a better place imho.
Mostly muslims.

The news is reporting that the Band Leader "called on Jesus Christ" to save him when the wave hit - he was the only member known to have survived (and he lost his wife poor guy).

There are a lot of Christians in Indonesia and not a few traditional (as in old style) Pagans/Animists as well; there are a lot of Islands there.

The BBC showed a Christmas Even service being held in a tent and it was pretty full...

Most of the Middle East has a lot of Christians (and some others) as well; one of the main stories I remember form Gulf War one was a family trying to celebrate Christmas with no power and the bombs falling, the reporter was their honored guest.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Hi Mary, I should have read the entire thread; glad you got that information out first - it is on the news.
 

7th trump

Contributing Member
The news is reporting that the Band Leader "called on Jesus Christ" to save him when the wave hit - he was the only member known to have survived (and he lost his wife poor guy).

There are a lot of Christians in Indonesia and not a few traditional (as in old style) Pagans/Animists as well; there are a lot of Islands there.

The BBC showed a Christmas Even service being held in a tent and it was pretty full...

Most of the Middle East has a lot of Christians (and some others) as well; one of the main stories I remember form Gulf War one was a family trying to celebrate Christmas with no power and the bombs falling, the reporter was their honored guest.

I know someone who has spent 3 months there a few years ago and its a hell hole cess pool for muslims. Let it burn and wash away. And it gets worse every day. Muslims are taking over that region of the world and the indigenous people do nothing. I beleive the government is already mostly muslim with Sharia being implemented.
Sure you have christians in the middle east. At one time it was mostly a christian region but it then became a muslim cess pool of shit!
 
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