TECH Visiting Qatar for the soccer world cup? Don’t bring your smartphone.

Tex88

Veteran Member

Everyone going to the World Cup must have this app - experts are now sounding the alarm​

Security experts believe Qatar's required mobile app will be like giving the World Cup country's authorities the key to your house.​

Egil Sande14. okt. kl. 07:41
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There are some apps that everyone going to Qatar must have in order to enter the country. Experts advise everyone who will be travelling there to be aware of what they are agreeing to.

Norwegian version

– It's not my job to give travel advice, but personally I would never bring my mobile phone on a visit to Qatar.

That's what NRK's head of security Øyvind Vasaasen says after a thorough review of the apps.

Everyone travelling to Qatar during the football World Cup will be asked to download two apps called Ehteraz and Hayya.

Briefly, Ehteraz is an covid-19 tracking app, while Hayya is an official World Cup app used to keep track of match tickets and to access the free Metro in Qatar.

In particular, the covid-19 app Ehteraz asks for access to several rights on your mobile., like access to read, delete or change all content on the phone, as well as access to connect to WiFi and Bluetooth, override other apps and prevent the phone from switching off to sleep mode.

The Ehteraz app, which everyone over 18 coming to Qatar must download, also gets a number of other accesses such as an overview of your exact location, the ability to make direct calls via your phone and the ability to disable your screen lock.

The Hayya app does not ask for as much, but also has a number of critical aspects. Among other things, the app asks for access to share your personal information with almost no restrictions. In addition, the Hayya app provides access to determine the phone's exact location, prevent the device from going into sleep mode, and view the phone's network connections.

EHTERAZ
The Ehteraz app, which everyone over the age of 18 going to Qatar must download, is receiving particular criticism.
– They can simply change the contents of your entire phone and have full control over the information that is there, is the conclusion of NRK's security manager.

As part of the media house's preparations for the Qatar WC, he has reviewed these apps.

Vasaasen is downright frightened by what NRK's security review has uncovered.

– When you download these two apps, you accept the terms stated in the contract, and those terms are very generous. You essentially hand over all the information in your phone. You give the people who control the apps the ability to read and change things, and tweak it. They also get the opportunity to retrieve information from other apps if they have the capacity to do so, and we believe they do.

– You're giving them the opportunity​

The security chief explains that it is essentially like the authorities getting full access to your house.

– You're saying that it is perfectly fine for the authorities to enter your home. They get a key, and they can get in. You don't know what they're doing there. They say they might not make use of the chance, but you're giving them the opportunity. And you would never do that, Vasaasen points out.

Øyvind Vasaasen leder DAB-arbeidet i NRK.
Øyvind Vasaasen, Head of Security at NRK.
NRK has asked Bouvet and Mnemonic, two independent IT security companies, to review the apps and give us their conclusions.

– Can do quite a lot of bad things​

The Ehteraz app in particular receives criticism, and it is compared to the first Smittestopp (Stop Infection) app in Norway.

– It was, after all, a privacy scandal. If someone has slightly more evil intentions than the Institute of Public Health, then you can do quite a lot of bad things with the information that the app collects in the first place, says Martin Gravåk at the Bouvet company.

– He explains that the app tracks where you go, and the mobile phones that are near you. In this way, they can cross-link the information and find out who you are meeting and talking to.

– If you're hunting the opposition, gays, or others you don't like, an app like this will make it much easier for you," Gravåk states.

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The Mnemonic company also compares the Ehteraz app with the first version of Smittestopp.

– The consequences for individuals and groups if data from Ehteraz goes astray can be significant," says Tor Erling Bjørstad of Mnemonic to NRK.

He has downloaded the apps and analysed what is in the application packages, and does not think the apps are hair-raising compared to "normal apps" that most people use.

– At the same time, they process data, particularly linked to GPS and position, which has a high potential for abuse. In a way, you have to trust the people who develop or own the apps, and it is not a given that you particularly want to trust the authorities in Qatar.

However, his technical analysis found no signs that they can actually change things that are stored locally on the mobile device, but nevertheless warns that the reason may be that it has not yet been implemented.

NRK has submitted the findings about the apps' security holes to FIFA. They tell us that they do not wish to comment on the matter.


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– Increases the risk​

Naomi Lintvedt, research fellow at the Faculty of Law at the University of Oslo, has reviewed the apps at the request of NRK.

She agrees with NRK's head of security that there is much that is problematic, and describes the apps as «very intrusive».

– You cannot consent to parts of the use, just everything. If I understand the apps correctly, there will also be limited options to change permissions there. This means that if you want to go to the WC, you have no choice. This is a mandatory app, with no options," she points out.

Lintvedt says bluntly that if she were an employer, she would not allow employees to take their work mobile phone to Qatar.

Even as a private person, she would have been very sceptical about using her own phone in the World Cup host country.

– What is the main criticism against these apps, as you see it?

– They go far too far in terms of what data is recorded and used. They get far too broad of access to change and take over functionality on your mobile phone, which appears to be completely unnecessary. It allows for government surveillance, and since it is Qatar, that has to be considered as well. This increases the risk that data will be used for purposes other than pure infection tracking, she believes.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
I thought you had to change the sim-chip for the country your going to.
My self have no interest in soccer and will not set foot in a islamic country, also the fact I do not have the money to travel like that.
 

Tex88

Veteran Member
I thought you had to change the sim-chip for the country your going to.
My self have no interest in soccer and will not set foot in a islamic country, also the fact I do not have the money to travel like that.

Depends on your carrier, if they allow you to use your phone abroad. But that's irrelevant here.
Being forced to put government spyware on your phone is the issue there. And why I posted this. I don't think anyone here has had any plans to visit Qatar to watch soccer. But governments not just in Arab countries do have plans if they're not already doing it to make computer and phone spyware. In this case, they're forcing your consent, but there's a shit ton other techniques to get the same access.

Remember all those news articles about "dumbass criminal buttdials police while committing or discussing a crime" some years back? Turned out what was going on was warrantless wiretapping, of which "construct alternative narrative as to how you got that conversation on tape" was part of the instructions.
 

Milkweed Host

Veteran Member
Times have changed. I went through the Qatar airport, twice in 2004
and didn't have a phone. There were caged chickens in the passenger area
and the A-hole guards would take bribes, I mean extra money.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Depends on your carrier, if they allow you to use your phone abroad. But that's irrelevant here.
Being forced to put government spyware on your phone is the issue there. And why I posted this. I don't think anyone here has had any plans to visit Qatar to watch soccer. But governments not just in Arab countries do have plans if they're not already doing it to make computer and phone spyware. In this case, they're forcing your consent, but there's a shit ton other techniques to get the same access.

Remember all those news articles about "dumbass criminal buttdials police while committing or discussing a crime" some years back? Turned out what was going on was warrantless wiretapping, of which "construct alternative narrative as to how you got that conversation on tape" was part of the instructions.
My daughter's HUSBAND buttdialed her while he was in the act of SEX WITH ANOTHER WOMAN. After they had been married less than two years. Needless to say that dissolved the marriage.

He was something of a notable, he had been prosecuting attorney of a medium size Western city, but was no longer in that job, being a mover and shaker in WA DC now.
 
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Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The problem they are going to run into is that folks are switching over to linux powered phones away from android, ios, and ms phones. Phones which do not have an app store like we know it. There is going to be an issue when the OS does not have a compatibility with their software.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
Good thing that is one of the last places on earth that I would ever want to step foot in, not just no, I won't ever go, it is hale no!

We cannot allow the creep of dystopian nazi fascist rule to come in, it needs to be rejected! No way would I travel TO IT!
 

PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I don't own a smart phone..........and even homeless people have them these days.

I'm finding out that by not having one I'm becoming more antisocial without any initiative on part other than I just don't happen to own one.

The reason is a simple one......my fingers are too big to use it and I can't see the screen good enough to be of any value with something that small..........sure you can blow up the size but then I only see a word or two and/or just a small part of a picture/screen that's useless too.

At my age and size ..........I'd need a phone that had a nice big key pad and a screen the size of a...........uh.............

Well...... hell I have all that stuff right now.......its called a desktop computer system.
 

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
The implication is one cannot even get into the country without a smart phone. That leaves me out.
I don't know which is the 1st reason I wouldn't go:
1. This invasive population tracking crap
2. Qatar being a Muslim country
3. I can find better things to spend $$$ on - Like a 2yr old Primo M1A Loaded w/ Leuopold, 10 mags, drag bag, bipod - turn key deal for $3500.00

Either would do for me . . . .
 
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