GOV/MIL Victory! Man beats camera issued speeding tickets in court

milkydoo

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Business owner beats speeding tickets by turning town's traffic enforcement camera technology against them



By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 12:46 PM on 22nd April 2011

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ent-camera-technology-them.html#ixzz1KHk2tFdf

A Maryland business owner has successfully discredited the camera equipment used by traffic enforcers – ironically by using their own technology against them to prove errors in the system.

Will Foreman, the owner of Eastover Auto Supply in Oxon Hill, Maryland, has managed to prove reasonable doubt five times before three separate judges, by bringing photos snapped on the highway of his company’s vehicles into court and proving that there is no way they were travelling over the speed limit.

But how did he do it?

Foreman took a close look at the photos snapped on Maryland’s Indian Head Highway by Optotraffic. The company’s devices first use sensors to detect vehicles traveling at least 12 miles over the imposed speed limit, and then snap two time-stamped image of the vehicle 50 feet down the road, at 0.363 second intervals.

The allegedly speeding motorist is then sent the pictures and a $40 ticket.

After superimposing the two photographs into one image - using the vehicle’s length as a frame of reference - Foreman was able to calculate the vehicle’s speed, given the distance and the elapsed time of the shots, and was able to prove that the vehicles were not in fact speeding.

‘I’ve never seen this before…You’ve produced an elegant defence and I’m sufficiently doubtful,’ Judge Mark T. O’Brien said in court before throwing the tickets out.

--snip-- Remainder of article and photos at link above
 

milkydoo

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I wonder how many thousands of people have been screwed by various auto-enforcer systems around the country thus far? And not only due to poor programming, but......deliberate? How would we know, if the programming deliberately skews the margins and issues the occasional bogus ticket? And how would you fight it?

Once the system is accepted as valid by the government, then the onus is on the victim to prove their innocence!
 

West

Senior
I hope he gets sufficiently compensated for his time and stress wasted on this. If not then just dropping the speeding ticket fine is not Justis/Victory.
 

Warthog

Black Out
I won't shop in any city that has speed or traffic cams. I live close to three small cities, one has cameras so I never shop in that one.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
These cameras are all privately owned by companies that are hired to install them and they collect like 80% of the fees.
 

Tundra Gypsy

Veteran Member
There was a guy on C2C who said some of the cities were shortening the time so that folks couldn't possibly get through a yellow light without getting a ticket for running a light. Cities are trying to get extra revenues at our expense. :( However, some cities are doing away with the practice because of all the legal issues.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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"Red light cameras" have created a surge in rear end accidents.

Many towns are starting to drop them.
 

Warthog

Black Out
"Red light cameras" have created a surge in rear end accidents.

Many towns are starting to drop them.
and have you ever been driving behind a senior citizen approaching the camera traffic lights? They're so scared they will get a ticket, it makes them a hazard for others.
 

NC Susan

Deceased
"Red light cameras" have created a surge in rear end accidents.

Many towns are starting to drop them.

WE had a camera on the intersection of Bragg Blvd. and Sycamore Dairy Road. During a car accident, a camera was knocked off its pole, crashed down onto a car roof that was legally sitting at a red light, and the unsuspecting young passenger was decapitated. All cameras were removed from the city pending lawsuits and never ending litigation. Those foto tickets made a large profit for ( Lockheed the installer/maintainer ) as the city only collected $15.00 for each $50.00 ticket.
 

gunnersmom

Veteran Member
Beside the cameras, there's a new game states are playing to pick up extra cash. My son attended a college in NC in the early part of this decade. He got a seat belt ticket, which he paid. In our state, he renewed his driver's license in 2002, 2006, and went for it again in 2010. Our state told him in 2010 he had an outstanding ticket in NC and couldn't get his DL until it was settled.

He hadn't been in NC since 2001, the ticket being given him in 2000. He called NC, sure enough, they said he owed the ticket. Ten years later he had no proof that he had paid. So, the 25 or so dollar ticket had now become $125, he paid with his CC, because he needed his DL!

This is a new ripoff these states are instituting. Who is going to drive hundreds of miles to fight a ticket? Who is going to still have the money order stubs from 10 years ago? And isn't it funny that that "charge" didn't surface for 10 YEARS and he had successfully renewed his DL twice in that time frame?

Lesson learned: Keep all proof of payment for any motor violation for the rest of your life. They have that stuff on computers and its easy to go back and erase stuff, jack the charge up $100 and make more money on the backs of non state citizens. I hate what these governments get away with.
 

sthrnfriedrocker

Veteran Member
They got me in a similiar way when I renewed my license six years ago, they had an old ticket from Georgia I had paid in the early nineties, and while they did take away the "extra" charges, I still had to pay the $116 all over again...but it had increased to over a grand, so I guess I got off lucky..
 
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