CORONA Vaccine injured clogging hospitals & calling 'em "Delta variant"

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
There's some kind of critical mass building. When the herd starts moving, it isn't going to be pretty.

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Hfcomms

EN66iq
Just anecdotal observations as I can't call them evidence but I have seen a fair amount of people about my age or a little older that have come down with a lot of health issues all of a sudden. One lady I know is a little overweight and older than I am but was in good health, I know she is vaxxed and I saw her the other day and she is on supplemental oxygen now.

Another guy who is older than me but was always in good health and I didn't see him last year but now he has to use a walker and a scooter and has MS type symptoms that came out of the blue and he is vaxxed. Maybe it's just my imagination or bad timing but these are just a few examples. Why so many all in a short period of time? Vaccines or stress induced from the pandemic reaction I don't know or maybe it's because I'm looking for it but it's just strange to see.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
Just anecdotal observations as I can't call them evidence but I have seen a fair amount of people about my age or a little older that have come down with a lot of health issues all of a sudden. One lady I know is a little overweight and older than I am but was in good health, I know she is vaxxed and I saw her the other day and she is on supplemental oxygen now.

Another guy who is older than me but was always in good health and I didn't see him last year but now he has to use a walker and a scooter and has MS type symptoms that came out of the blue and he is vaxxed. Maybe it's just my imagination or bad timing but these are just a few examples. Why so many all in a short period of time? Vaccines or stress induced from the pandemic reaction I don't know or maybe it's because I'm looking for it but it's just strange to see.
Based on what I am seeing locally, I think it's real.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
She sounds pretty knowledgeable, more so than you ever have. Funny thing about this video, there is one circulating here locally that has a lot of the same information. Plus some other information about treatment methods and how the accepted methods are more than likely killing people.

Nurses from a local hospital secretly taped this meeting with hospital administration.

In the video we see people we know, they actually work the positions they claim, they work higher level at the local hospital which by the way is part of a national chain of hospitals.

Currently the only way we can view the video is on a tablet held by someone else. They don't want the video on the Internet yet, but are saying they will release it at some point. Legal council is being consulted.

If and when they release it I will post it here immediately.

Thank you very much...and also, TIA for that info, and forthcoming! Hopefully soon.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
NOT TRUE!!

I work in a rural Federal health clinic. We test for Influenza A or B ALL the time!! And yes, the test determines which it is!!
Yes, but what variant of influenza?
  • H1N1, which caused Spanish Flu in 1918 and Swine Flu in 2009
  • H2N2, which caused Asian Flu in 1957
  • H3N2, which caused Hong Kong Flu in 1968
  • H5N1, which caused Bird Flu in 2004
  • Some other new annual variant
It's the same with influenza B. There is no routine testing to tell you the lineage of influenza B-is it Victoria or Yamagata?

Clinically what is the difference in treatment? There isn't any. It's supportive for the most part.

Same thing for Covid.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
We just talked with a good friend of our family in the next state over. They are a couple in their mid 30s. They have three kids, all the kids tested positive and are dealing with cold like symptoms but not bad. Two of the kids just have runny noses.

The only person in the family to be vaccinated is the husband. He's sick bad and is in bed. Their debating to take him to the ER.

And the wife was just tested and she's tested negative. And is healthy.

We suggested Ivermectin, he says he's not a horse!

Tell him that it was approved by the FDA for humans back in like 1996, and that "the NIH has upgraded their recommendation on ivermectin, making it an option for use in COVID-19."

 

corona

Contributing Member
I,m going to assume most members have a least a decade of membership here. How can some members totally disregard what this whislebrower is saying. What i,v learn with forums and programs i.e Coast to Coast Art Bell, and many others, There always some truth to the Woo. It's up to us and our common sense to detect truth and BS. The first thing i,m going to do about with this story is SEARCH!! AND YES I suspect some here are paid trolls.
 

ioujc

MARANTHA!! Even so, come LORD JESUS!!!
Yes, but what variant of influenza?
  • H1N1, which caused Spanish Flu in 1918 and Swine Flu in 2009
  • H2N2, which caused Asian Flu in 1957
  • H3N2, which caused Hong Kong Flu in 1968
  • H5N1, which caused Bird Flu in 2004
  • Some other new annual variant
It's the same with influenza B. There is no routine testing to tell you the lineage of influenza B-is it Victoria or Yamagata?

Clinically what is the difference in treatment? There isn't any. It's supportive for the most part.

Same thing for Covid.

The variant is whatever the CDC has identified it as for that year. There is no testing for that type of variant in a local clinic>>>>>HOWEVER, we KNOW it is not one of the ones you have mentioned above, because there would be MANY more people who were very sick. AND if you are as knowledgeable as you PRETEND to be, you already know that.

You REALLY ARE a shill and are obtaining talking points from your DEMON-RAT back-up team>>>>>why don't you go somewhere where people will listen to you and MAYBE even like you>>>>'cause it sure ain't HERE!!
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Here’s an odd bit of evidence, looking to be coming from our younger generation:

Not clear what we're supposed to be getting from that. I'll take a wild guess that the video doesn't show a needle. One of those auto-retracting syringes.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
The variant is whatever the CDC has identified it as for that year. There is no testing for that type of variant in a local clinic>>>>>HOWEVER, we KNOW it is not one of the ones you have mentioned above, because there would be MANY more people who were very sick. AND if you are as knowledgeable as you PRETEND to be, you already know that.

You REALLY ARE a shill and are obtaining talking points from your DEMON-RAT back-up team>>>>>why don't you go somewhere where people will listen to you and MAYBE even like you>>>>'cause it sure ain't HERE!!
Really.

You dont realize those strains are still circulating but are endemic now? There have been a half a dozen outbreaks of H1N1 in the last 10 years. They didn't just disappear. There were other H5N1 outbreaks in 2009. H3N2 is seasonal.

The vaccine is made by trying to guess which variant of H1N1, H1N2, H3N2 and Influenza be us most likely to be prevalent for the next season. Jeesh.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Not clear what we're supposed to be getting from that. I'll take a wild guess that the video doesn't show a needle. One of those auto-retracting syringes.

It looks like the safety cover is still on the needle.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
Every covid death I personally know of occurred on a vent. The machines may have undetected spikes in pressure. All of the people I personally know who died had "leaking lungs" or "blowout".
It's not too uncommon. Damaged lungs+higher pressures to force O2 across the alveoli can get you a pneumothorax. We dont use vents unless it's absolutely necessary, try to stay with bipap as long as possible. One good thing Trump did was spin up vent production; one thing there could be more of is ECMO.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Everyone starts out thinking it's allergies. Lots of sneezing. Sore throat, headache, pain in the back and joints. It probably spreads faster because you can sneeze 100 times in a day.

I don't have allergies. My vector came down with it 48 hours after contact with a sneezing vector. I was about 48 hours behind my vector. It's miserable, but didn't cough as much.

Coming late to this thread---

could you let me know if I'm correct--didn't the earlier variants start more with headache and fever?

So far, no one in my family has had EITHER---EXCEPT the members of my HUSBAND'S family who were VAXED!
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Were they tested with sequencing? I think that is the correct term. To determine if they did in fact have the Delta?

There's a thread here somewhere about how they are NOT sequencing the strains---and if they do take a blood sample, they don't let you know even if they DO send it out for sequencing what variety you have. Some say (from FOIA requests) that there "is" no "official" IDENTIFIED (CODIFIED) SEQUENCE for ANY of the Covid variants, except maybe the earliest / first.

See this article from Business Insider, which I found from that thread (wherever it is) here on TB:

You aren't legally allowed to know which variant gave you COVID-19 in the US, even if it's Delta


 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Not clear what we're supposed to be getting from that. I'll take a wild guess that the video doesn't show a needle. One of those auto-retracting syringes.

Actually it does--if you put it on full-screen you can see the nurse do the traditional "squirt" of fluid out of the needle to be sure it's clear of air bubbles--she does it TWICE--you wouldn't see the liquid squirt out if the cap was on.

And the girl has a point that our family has OFTEN talked about---WHY are no DEMOCRATS getting Covid? Pelosi, leading Demo CONgress-critters, leading DEMO political hob-nobs, Biden's cabinet officials---NONE of the "important" people are getting covid--NOR have they gone on-film getting the shot.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
On my phone screen, it was hard to tell. I'm just saying that I think that's the implication. If true, it is a hell of a video.

Hold on. I watched it again. Yep. Sequence of events:

1. Syringe handed to poke-person.
2. Poke-person makes motions to poke the pokee.
3. Poke-person pulls syringe away.
4. Safety cover ejected from syringe to make it look like it was used. Even on the small screen of my phone you can see the cover fly off.
 

juco

Veteran Member
NOT TRUE!!

I work in a rural Federal health clinic. We test for Influenza A or B ALL the time!! And yes, the test determines which it is!!

Correct. My SIL was recently diagnosed with Influenza-b. How would they know if they didn't test for type?
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
She sounds pretty knowledgeable, more so than you ever have. Funny thing about this video, there is one circulating here locally that has a lot of the same information. Plus some other information about treatment methods and how the accepted methods are more than likely killing people.

Nurses from a local hospital secretly taped this meeting with hospital administration.

In the video we see people we know, they actually work the positions they claim, they work higher level at the local hospital which by the way is part of a national chain of hospitals.

Currently the only way we can view the video is on a tablet held by someone else. They don't want the video on the Internet yet, but are saying they will release it at some point. Legal council is being consulted.

If and when they release it I will post it here immediately.
THANK YOU for some REAL, inside info. Tell them if they post it to put it somewhere like Bitchute where it can't be taken down (I believe we can still download from that site?)
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Hold on. I watched it again. Yep. Sequence of events:

1. Syringe handed to poke-person.
2. Poke-person makes motions to poke the pokee.
3. Poke-person pulls syringe away.
4. Safety cover ejected from syringe to make it look like it was used. Even on the small screen of my phone you can see the cover fly off.

I disagree---it's grainy but what I saw was TWO squirts of FLUID out of the needle--please check again---put if on FULL screen--you CANNOT SEE THIS on a PHONE--SCREEN TOO SMALL
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Hold on. I watched it again. Yep. Sequence of events:

1. Syringe handed to poke-person.
2. Poke-person makes motions to poke the pokee.
3. Poke-person pulls syringe away.
4. Safety cover ejected from syringe to make it look like it was used. Even on the small screen of my phone you can see the cover fly off.
Is this supposed to be some "important" person getting vaxed? I thought the video was of some misc "old man" ---I can't see the HIGH and MIGHTY being vaxed in their CARS--????
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
It looks like the safety cover is still on the needle.

I downloaded and froze it. There's only one frame where the needle could be visible, and it's pretty clearly there as she retracts the syringe. In all other frames the needle is either hidden or washed out by backlight.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Actually it does--if you put it on full-screen you can see the nurse do the traditional "squirt" of fluid out of the needle to be sure it's clear of air bubbles--she does it TWICE--you wouldn't see the liquid squirt out if the cap was on.

I got up off the couch (metaphor there!) and pulled it up on my computer. You may be right. There's two bits of action off the end of the syringe, so either she squirted twice at the end, or it was cover eject, then squirt.

One way or another, Anthony Hopkins did not have whatever it was in the syringe injected into him
 

libertylover

Contributing Member
I seem to remember ronda saying something about being surprised he wasn't on ignore and took ioujc's response as an answer to that remark. It is understandable why people are reacting the way they do. It is a back and forth between two completely different sides. When you have a poster who is a self acclaimed "expert" and responds, at times in such a condescending way it just plain pisses people off (I suspect that is the goal). Most of us have had this happen when seeing a healthcare provider. They do not want to look at your peer reviewed studies because they already know it all.

Everything will work out in the end. For those who are pushing the vaccine, they will know what it is like to be on the other side when something down the line is forced on them. After all, it will be for their own good.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Is this supposed to be some "important" person getting vaxed? I thought the video was of some misc "old man" ---I can't see the HIGH and MIGHTY being vaxed in their CARS--????

My understanding is it was Anthony Hopkins. There's no reason he wouldn't get his poke in the car, his car is probably just a whole lot nicer than ours. Being the All-Father and all.

Of course, being an actor, he could have just been playing a role.
 
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