GOV/MIL US Census 2010 and Confederate Southern Americans

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1WNuSXlAEM

Confederate America was an independent nation for 4 years before being illegally trampled by Lincoln and his cronies.

Kirk D. Lyons, Chief Trial Counsel of the Southern Legal Resource Center, explains how Americans with Southern/Confederate ancestry can be counted on the US Census, now being mailed to American homes.

In box 9 for race, check other, then enter.

Confed Southern Am
 
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GingerN

Veteran Member
A guy on another board I go to calls himself an Appalachian American. I think either one would be good, but unfortunately, technically, it is not a race, though neither is hispanic.

I got my short form yesterday, and I am not sure exactly how I will answer it. It asks for names and birthdays, and a phone #. I just dont see how that is relevant to a head count. I can see giving them the number of people, and the age range, but not specifics, and not names.
 

Sligo

Membership Revoked
The form was so serious hung up on latino/hispanic that it even said that they aren't a race, I was going to put down "other" for mine and then fill out "White American of European descent". It had so many different names for hispanics, I didn't recognize them all! I also wrote on mine "Do not release any information on any person on this form to ANYONE for 72 years as per the Constitution without express written permission" I did not give them my phone number.
 

Malone Laveigh

Senior Member
"Do not release any information on any person on this form to ANYONE for 72 years as per the Constitution without express written permission" I did not give them my phone number.

Uh-oh, now you went did it, you mentioned the "C-word" . . . welcome to the domestic terrorist list. :lol:



Malone
 

Desertrat

Inactive
If you''re of European background, "Caucasian" is accurate--whether or not there is any Italian/Spanish in your mix.

"Latin", by definition, is racist, just as is "White". :D
 

gcsdls

Thread-killer...see?
To Whom it May Concern,

Pursuant to Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the Constitution, the only information you are empowered to request is the total number of occupants at this address. My “name, sex, age, date of birth, race, ethnicity, telephone number, relationship and housing tenure” have absolutely nothing to do with apportioning direct taxes or determining the number of representatives in the House of Representatives. Therefore, neither Congress nor the Census Bureau have the constitutional authority to make that information request a component of the enumeration outlined in Article I, Section 2, Clause 3. In addition, I cannot be subject to a fine for basing my conduct on the Constitution because that document trumps laws passed by Congress.

Interstate Commerce Commission v. Brimson, 154 U.S. 447, 479 (May 26, 1894)
“Neither branch of the legislative department [House of Representatives or Senate], still less any merely administrative body [such as the Census Bureau], established by congress, possesses, or can be invested with, a general power of making inquiry into the private affairs of the citizen. Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 190. We said in Boyd v. U.S., 116 U. S. 616, 630, 6 Sup. Ct. 524,―and it cannot be too often repeated,―that the principles that embody the essence of constitutional liberty and security forbid all invasions on the part of government and it’s employees of the sanctity of a man’s home and the privacies of his life. As said by Mr. Justice Field in Re Pacific Ry. Commission, 32 Fed. 241, 250, ‘of all the rights of the citizen, few are of greater importance or more essential to his peace and happiness than the right of personal security, and that involves, not merely protection of his person from assault, but exemption of his private affairs, books, and papers from inspection and scrutiny of others. Without the enjoyment of this right, all others would lose half their value.’”

Note: This United States Supreme Court case has never been overturned.

Respectfully,

A Citizen of the United States of America
 

ofuzzy1

Just Visiting
Have you noticed that the retuenr envelope is not billed to a GSA organization?

Answered only question number one.

made a photo copy of that along with the address / bar code.
Will mail it on fools day, because that is when we know the answer to the question asked.
 
A guy on another board I go to calls himself an Appalachian American. I think either one would be good, but unfortunately, technically, it is not a race, though neither is hispanic.

I got my short form yesterday, and I am not sure exactly how I will answer it. It asks for names and birthdays, and a phone #. I just dont see how that is relevant to a head count. I can see giving them the number of people, and the age range, but not specifics, and not names.

I put an X through mortgage info and phone number--put a note for them to contact me via U.S. Mail. I answered everything else...except B-days. They already have that info on the tax rolls. Plus, I wanted to put in the NA stuff so the correct tribes would have the credit.
 

Kalliope

Inactive
To Whom it May Concern,

Pursuant to Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the Constitution, the only information you are empowered to request is the total number of occupants at this address. My “name, sex, age, date of birth, race, ethnicity, telephone number, relationship and housing tenure” have absolutely nothing to do with apportioning direct taxes or determining the number of representatives in the House of Representatives. Therefore, neither Congress nor the Census Bureau have the constitutional authority to make that information request a component of the enumeration outlined in Article I, Section 2, Clause 3. In addition, I cannot be subject to a fine for basing my conduct on the Constitution because that document trumps laws passed by Congress.

Interstate Commerce Commission v. Brimson, 154 U.S. 447, 479 (May 26, 1894)
“Neither branch of the legislative department [House of Representatives or Senate], still less any merely administrative body [such as the Census Bureau], established by congress, possesses, or can be invested with, a general power of making inquiry into the private affairs of the citizen. Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 190. We said in Boyd v. U.S., 116 U. S. 616, 630, 6 Sup. Ct. 524,―and it cannot be too often repeated,―that the principles that embody the essence of constitutional liberty and security forbid all invasions on the part of government and it’s employees of the sanctity of a man’s home and the privacies of his life. As said by Mr. Justice Field in Re Pacific Ry. Commission, 32 Fed. 241, 250, ‘of all the rights of the citizen, few are of greater importance or more essential to his peace and happiness than the right of personal security, and that involves, not merely protection of his person from assault, but exemption of his private affairs, books, and papers from inspection and scrutiny of others. Without the enjoyment of this right, all others would lose half their value.’”

Note: This United States Supreme Court case has never been overturned.

Respectfully,

A Citizen of the United States of America

Did you know that this Census is almost exactly like the 1790 Census? So the Founding Fathers were wrong? The only questions that are not on this one is 1. Head of Household & 2. How many slaves do you own?
 

Ben Sunday

Deceased
Did you know that this Census is almost exactly like the 1790 Census? So the Founding Fathers were wrong? The only questions that are not on this one is 1. Head of Household & 2. How many slaves do you own?

Somehow, I don't think that phone numbers were an issue in 1790.
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
"Did you know that this Census is almost exactly like the 1790 Census? So the Founding Fathers were wrong? The only questions that are not on this one is 1. Head of Household & 2. How many slaves do you own?"

No it isn't - only Heads of Households were listed in 1790.....no children's names at all, not even spouse's names.
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
"Did you know that this Census is almost exactly like the 1790 Census? So the Founding Fathers were wrong? The only questions that are not on this one is 1. Head of Household & 2. How many slaves do you own?"

No it isn't - only Heads of Households were listed in 1790.....no children's names at all, not even spouse's names or any ages, just age ranges and numbers by gender.
 

hope4mil

Veteran Member
"Did you know that this Census is almost exactly like the 1790 Census? So the Founding Fathers were wrong? The only questions that are not on this one is 1. Head of Household & 2. How many slaves do you own?"

No it isn't - only Heads of Households were listed in 1790.....no children's names at all, not even spouse's names or any ages, just age ranges and numbers by gender.

Laurane,

That is correct. But, it is almost exactly like the 1850, 1860, ... 1930.

The .gov already has the answers to these questions from our birth records, DOT, land and court records. So we are not giving out info that is not already readily available.

I have been doing genealogy for about 17 years and the census is one of our best kept records of our family history. I sure hope that my ancestors answered those questions truthfully.

We owe it to our grandkids, great-grandkids, and all future descendants to record our history as accurately as possible.

Hope
 

truthseeker

Membership Revoked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1WNuSXlAEM

Confederate America was an independent nation for 4 years before being illegally trampled by Lincoln and his cronies.

Kirk D. Lyons, Chief Trial Counsel of the Southern Legal Resource Center, explains how Americans with Southern/Confederate ancestry can be counted on the US Census, now being mailed to American homes.

In box 9 for race, check other, then enter.

Confed Southern Am

A nation that no other nation recognized and was formed to keep human slave labor. That's something to be proud of. The Union did NOT start the shooting.

I'm sure there are those in Germany that relish and miss the Nazi era, too.

:kk1:
 
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