ALERT URGENT!! 5K US & NATO SURROUNDED IN KABUL BY 20K HEAVILY ARMED TALIBAN, NO ESCAPE

Lilbitsnana

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Blinken
addressing people that had paperwork etc and being turned away at airport or before they can get to airport

82000+ evacuated
45-46% have been women/children
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Did anyone else watch War Room this morning? If so, did I hear MTG correctly when she said congress has been told there's about 50,000 US citizens stranded in A-Stan still??? 50K ????? Did I mishear her?


I don't know the number, but it wouldn't surprise me as it appears they've been prioritizing others before American Citizens.
 

philkar

Veteran Member
Doc -

I believe me and mine are where you are. It is so sad. I never thought it would happen so quickly. I mean, did anyone REALLY see this complete cluster happening at the beginning of the year?

In all of the blustering I have read about this and that, and we'll get them out... we all want to arm chair quarterback ... I'm not so sure. This morning, I had a talk with my husband on this, and his answer was they'll leave them. The .mil will evacuate, but when it comes right down to it orders will be followed for the pull out and if you aren't on that last plane, well...

While I do understand helping those that helped us, my own personal opinion is that Americans should have been first and a top priority. I cannot even begin to imagine the thoughts of someone when they realize that they are completely on their own in such a hostile environment. We all need to harden our hearts to what we will probably be witnessing that happens to those left behind.

We all should start to turn to ourselves, to ensure that we survive. Us, our families, and build strong groups. I dare not type what I fear is coming to our homeland.

Snakes and all, I believe I need to go outdoors today and spend some quality time in my woods.
Building a strong group is very very important on so many different levels. It is as important to us as prepping items that might be needed. Funny you mention snakes...grabbed one today while weeding. He went one way and I went the other way! Small rat snake!
 

Zahra

Veteran Member
FOX

KT McFarland
said Trump had been evacuating people, NGOs etc. out before he left office, but Biden shut it down as bad optics and that Taliban would take offense.
I remember hearing that mentioned before.

Dear Lord..... SMH

Besides being utterly evil, Biden doesn't come across like he even has any empathy for the US citizens he's preparing to abandon either - or sympathy for the terror and anguish their families here must be going through. Could you imagine having a husband, son, or daughter who went there to work as a contractor, or volunteered to help in some humanitarian relief organization and now helplessly watch as your "president" cuts and runs?
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic
Did anyone else watch War Room this morning? If so, did I hear MTG correctly when she said congress has been told there's about 50,000 US citizens stranded in A-Stan still??? 50K ????? Did I mishear her?
No, you did not mishear her, Steve Bannon asked her, where she got the number from?
 

Zahra

Veteran Member
No, you did not mishear her, Steve Bannon asked her, where she got the number from?

Thanks for the confirmation .....

Well that will make the terrorists extremely rich very soon..... I wonder how many pallets of cash Biden will send to ransom them out of there? Could go on for years.....

All it will take is a few featured as the star attraction in the soccer stadium for the public outcry to save them no matter what it takes....

Could be Joe's retirement plan -- 10% off the top and all that....
 

The Hammer

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Dear Lord..... SMH

Besides being utterly evil, Biden doesn't come across like he even has any empathy for the US citizens he's preparing to abandon either - or sympathy for the terror and anguish their families here must be going through. Could you imagine having a husband, son, or daughter who went there to work as a contractor, or volunteered to help in some humanitarian relief organization and now helplessly watch as your "president" cuts and runs?
I agree with you, but what I think Biden is trying to do is convince us he's not leaving anyone behind. Thus no empathy needed. Just another day at the office, basically.
 

Fenwick Babbitt

Veteran Member
Thanks for the confirmation .....

Well that will make the terrorists extremely rich very soon..... I wonder how many pallets of cash Biden will send to ransom them out of there? Could go on for years.....
Could be Joe's retirement plan -- 10% off the top and all that....
Half of the bribe money will go right into offshore accounts for Biden and Obama, U.S. Taxpayer money is the gift that just keeps giving, hang em all
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
These are quotes from a long article posted upthread by Melodi:
'Let's be quite clear, parliament and the British public have reduced the armed forces of this country to very very small players, and we cannot do things,' he told MailOnline.

'We should be paying at least 3 per cent of gross national product on defence.

'People say ''why don't we do more?'' Well, we can't do more. We haven't got the resources to do more, because they have all gone.
^^ I find this ironic because that was one of the things Trump tried to do was get our European allies to pay more for their own defense and to stop expecting USA to foot the bill. Their failure to do that has now bitten them in the butt.

The Prime Minister, along with Emmanuel Macron and Angela Merkel, had used a G7 meeting to urge the US President to keep the operation going longer.

But Mr Biden reportedly rejected the request 'point blank'. 'Mr Biden made clear that it wasn't a runner,' a senior government source reportedly told The Telegraph last night.
This behavior from Bidet is weird. There is a lot of blowback from all of our allies and also from the foreign press (and maybe even a bit from his usual MSM allies here) I would have expected him to cave in after all the bad press. That tells me that (as we have suspected) someone powerful is behind the scenes pulling the strings. For him to act so decisively is just odd to me. Look at how he acted toward the G7 leaders, like he had a backbone (although in this case he is showing a steel resolve to make sure Americans die) - it just strikes me as odd. Whoever is pulling the strings behind the scenes must really have some dirt on him for him to withstand all of this international pressure and stick to his guns. JMHO
 

Pinecone

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One thing I cannot understand is why anyone in charge of communication in this administration has not been fired, and publicly.

The communication has been absolutely, consistently inept so far. No organization (except apparently the government) would accept this.

They don't even lie well.
Yeah, but who's gonna fire them? Biden? I don't think so. He can barely read the teleprompter. There's too many people walking in the sewage in DC right now. No one in the administration is clean enough to fire anyone.
 

The Hammer

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Yeah, but who's gonna fire them? Biden? I don't think so. He can barely read the teleprompter. There's too many people walking in the sewage in DC right now. No one in the administration is clean enough to fire anyone.
Unfortunately, you're right. No integrity left at just about any level, that I can see.
 

AlfaMan

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That angers me so much. Not only are they planning on leaving all those Americans there, but the few people that the US govt did evacuate were mostly non-Americans! I do want us to help the Afghans who helped us but we should have removed our own people first. All those early photos of the planes that were 100% packed with Afghans fleeing the country just makes my blood boil, knowing that they were leaving Americans there.

They're going to leave Americans there-of that I have no doubt. During the Soviet war there; the muj used to play a game. Soccer actually-using the severed head of a captured Soviet soldier.
People are deluding themselves if they think the Taliban will allow Americans to stay alive, let alone escape after the end of this month.
Our communist leader is setting himself up to allow Americans left there to be murdered en masse.

Yet, if you drive by Route 28 north in Chantilly, VA and look to your right where the Dulles Expo center is located-you'll see Afghan refugees being unloaded from buses by the busload. They're being housed in the Expo center itself (it's maybe 3 miles south of Dulles airport). And literally right across Rt. 28 is the National Reconnaisance office (NRO). We'll probably be hearing about a peaceful Afghan refugee trying to blow up a truck bomb outside the gates or something.

This country is currently living in the Twilight Zone.
 

Cacheman

Ultra MAGA!
I have some questions I've been thinking about that perhaps could be answered by people here...

We know there has always been a large number of "Contractors" in A-stan. I don't think anyone has ever given the totals because if I owned the "Business" I certainly WOULD NOT give the actual number employed or who they are. I would not run them through the regular channels such as the State Dept or Homeland Security, you signed our contract and if it doesn't work out tough shit. Who and where the "Contractors" are and where they are from I can only think is a proprietary secret and they can come and go as they please based on who they work for.

So contractors operate in the shadows, without effective oversight from our betters, the politician, they allow politicians to have their cake and eat it too – by appearing to withdraw, while keeping proxy forces in a shithole.

I think people know where I'm going....


And maybe nobody actually knows how many or who is there?
 

Seeker22

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I have some questions I've been thinking about that perhaps could be answered by people here...

We know there has always been a large number of "Contractors" in A-stan. I don't think anyone has ever given the totals because if I owned the "Business" I certainly WOULD NOT give the actual number employed or who they are. I would not run them through the regular channels such as the State Dept or Homeland Security, you signed our contract and if it doesn't work out tough shit. Who and where the "Contractors" are and where they are from I can only think is a proprietary secret and they can come and go as they please based on who they work for.

So contractors operate in the shadows, without effective oversight from our betters, the politician, they allow politicians to have their cake and eat it too – by appearing to withdraw, while keeping proxy forces in a shithole.

I think people know where I'm going....


And maybe nobody actually knows how many or who is there?

I do NOT intend to turn this post into a religious wacko free for all- but evil exists, it is moving bravely about. Not much real resistance so far.

These so called contractors left their service dogs behind. Just abandoned them in lots of cases. Charlotte Maxwell went around and collected them up and brought them back to her shelter, KSAR. Penn Farthing did much the same with his animal charity, NOWZAD. That sounds easier than it was.

There are two distinct types of people on this rock- those who try to do good and those who try to do evil. We are having quite a tug a tussle with that right at the moment.

I have known good people who were contractors, and I have known some who would make slime look beautiful. Between such people and the Hidden Hand (those above the powers we see, heads of state, etc.) much evil is being done.

They have to have those willing to put the show together and whether you are in the covid show, or the Kabul airport show, it is the very same evil prepetrated by the same people.

Ageless and predictable. It thinks we will sit and accept our fate. Prove them wrong.
Take a chance.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
These are quotes from a long article posted upthread by Melodi:

^^ I find this ironic because that was one of the things Trump tried to do was get our European allies to pay more for their own defense and to stop expecting USA to foot the bill. Their failure to do that has now bitten them in the butt.


This behavior from Bidet is weird. There is a lot of blowback from all of our allies and also from the foreign press (and maybe even a bit from his usual MSM allies here) I would have expected him to cave in after all the bad press. That tells me that (as we have suspected) someone powerful is behind the scenes pulling the strings. For him to act so decisively is just odd to me. Look at how he acted toward the G7 leaders, like he had a backbone (although in this case he is showing a steel resolve to make sure Americans die) - it just strikes me as odd. Whoever is pulling the strings behind the scenes must really have some dirt on him for him to withstand all of this international pressure and stick to his guns. JMHO
He [Biden/his handlers] also flat out lied, several times last night (or his handler's who wrote the speech did) by insisting that all the US Allies were "on board" with leaving on the 31st.

This is one reason today the UK and European Press were SCREAMING about Biden, it ranged from rather harsh criticism to really ugly things that normally aren't even allowed in the British Tabloid Papers (aka National Enquirer types).

Not only are the "allies" not on board with this, but they also tried extremely hard to get "Biden" to reconsider and I gather he blew them off in seven minutes.

The UK Military is doing better under the Torries (or it was) and there have been some attempts to improved military spending there and in some other European countries but things have been bad for a long time and they simply can't rebuild everything overnight.

I suspect after this, there will be more motivation to speed things up a bit.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I'm posting this headline as an example, the full article can be read at the link but I've posted several versions of the "never-ending" UK Daily mail articles (they just keep adding stuff). But the headline shows what I was talking about in the above post - while the UK can have some pretty provocative headlines, their media is somewhat monitored and they just couldn't say this stuff without a tacit OK from "Whitehall" or "The Foreign Office." ...

Headline this evening 8/25/21 about 10pm UK Time

Full article at:
'Biden isn't fit for the role - he's gone gaga': Tory MPs join US Republicans in condemning President's Afghanistan 'betrayal' as UK races to get last 2,000 people out in 24 hours - while America BLAMES its citizens for not leaving earlier
 

zeker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I suggest we take a portion of the Taliban, maybe 20,000 or so and fly them to DC, and let them take over DC like they did Kabul. It surely can't be any worse.


and let DC be surrounded by patriots

just to keep the taliban INSIDE

dont enter DC..

just surround and observe

and listen to the whiners pray for the 'deplorables' to come save them
 

zeker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"He [Biden/his handlers] also flat out lied, several times last night (or his handler's who wrote the speech did "

I do not give the piece of shyt, any wiggle room to blame it on others
 

nehimama

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Admiral Kirby

mandatory vaccination of military (since FDA approved, what a joke)

will continue to evacuate all the way to the end if need

but last couple of days before deadline will begin to prioritize US military troops and equipment (will try to find a balance with other country mil)
"Vaccinate to evacuate"?
 

zeker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
These are quotes from a long article posted upthread by Melodi:

^^ I find this ironic because that was one of the things Trump tried to do was get our European allies to pay more for their own defense and to stop expecting USA to foot the bill. Their failure to do that has now bitten them in the butt.


This behavior from Bidet is weird. There is a lot of blowback from all of our allies and also from the foreign press (and maybe even a bit from his usual MSM allies here) I would have expected him to cave in after all the bad press. That tells me that (as we have suspected) someone powerful is behind the scenes pulling the strings. For him to act so decisively is just odd to me. Look at how he acted toward the G7 leaders, like he had a backbone (although in this case he is showing a steel resolve to make sure Americans die) - it just strikes me as odd. Whoever is pulling the strings behind the scenes must really have some dirt on him for him to withstand all of this international pressure and stick to his guns. JMHO


dirt.. its spelled HUNTER and BIG GUY $
 

Pinecone

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Our Sec of State and a bunch of other admin officials were crowing about how many people have been evacuated. Very little to no mention of how much of it was done by our allies. I'm sure they listened. I wonder how many TV sets overseas will also have to be replaced.

I almost threw mine out the window when biden said Trump killed the Refugee Program. (It's been chained to the floor to keep this from becoming more than a mental exercise - the throwing of the TV, that is.)
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
So now that we've surpassed the Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys, who will suggest our moniker?
 

vector7

Dot Collector

Melodi

Disaster Cat
This is the UK Daily Mail so consider the source (sometimes they do print stories they retract later) but this sounds believable.
EXCLUSIVE: 'We're leaving in 72 HOURS - it doesn't matter who's left on the ground.' Former CIA officer says he's been told the deadline to evacuate Americans from Kabul is far shorter than August 31 cutoff
Former CIA officer Sam Faddis has claimed Americans and Afghan allies stuck in Kabul actually have far less time to evacuate

The terrorism expert told DailyMail.com he's been informed civilian evacuation flights out of Afghanistan are set to end in three days - not August 31

'Biden decided we're pulling out within 72 hours. We're gone, and it doesn't matter who's left on the ground,' Faddis said citing military sources


US forces need time to get out and have to 'collapse on themselves to maintain some sort of security perimeter,' he added
A military contractor who spoke to DailyMail.com on the condition of anonymity claimed that he too had been told that the deadline was swiftly approaching

'They're talking uniformed military personnel out by the 31st, and they're giving a shorter window for all non-military civilians,' he said
By JOSH BOSWELL FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 19:32, 25 August 2021 | UPDATED: 22:32, 25 August 2021

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American civilians and Afghan allies have just 72 hours before evacuations from Kabul end, a former CIA officer and terrorism expert has claimed.

Sam Faddis, who served as the head of the Counter Terrorism Center's Weapons of Mass Destruction unit, said sources in the Pentagon, military officers in Kabul and other former intelligence agency officers have told him that flights for civilians out of the Afghan capital will actually end in the next three days.

The alleged deadline has not been officially announced or verified, but raises fears that American citizens could be left behind in the Taliban-occupied city.

On Tuesday President Joe Biden confirmed that US forces will be leaving the country by August 31, a date agreed with the Taliban - but Faddis claims American civilians currently in the city have a far shorter deadline.

'Biden decided we're pulling out within 72 hours. We're gone, and it doesn't matter who's left on the ground,' the ex-CIA officer told DailyMail.com.


'From folks inside Kabul, the word they're getting is everything shuts down in 72 hours. I presume that translates to evacuation flights of any civilians terminate in 72 hours.

'Because just getting the troops and their equipment out takes a certain period of time. They have to collapse on themselves to maintain some sort of security perimeter.

'The word is, it doesn't matter about American citizens. Because there's no hard headcount.'


Top generals have refused in press conferences and briefings to lawmakers to disclose the precise number of American citizens still in Kabul, simply saying they were in the 'thousands'.

'What I'm constantly being told, and have been told for many days now, is that any notion this is conditions-based is wrong,' Faddis added. 'We're leaving, anybody who is not gone is cut away.

'Every time I say it I find it staggering to even hear myself say it, but it's apparently true. We're just going to leave.'

Faddis took the first CIA team into Iraq prior to the 2003 invasion and wrote a book about his experiences in the agency, Beyond Repair: The Decline and Fall of the CIA.

In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com on Tuesday, he claimed that defense officials had also told him that Biden rejected an alternative evacuation plan even after being warned that Kabul's international airport could not be defended if attacked.

Faddis said officials in the 18th Airborne Corps proposed US forces retake Bagram air base about 30 miles north of Kabul, which was abandoned in July due to the limited number of American troops and surrendered to the Taliban by Afghan troops on August 15.

'The original plan that came out of the 18th Airborne Corps in Fort Bragg was, there's really only one rational way to do this,' he said.

'We've got to go retake Bagram and establish a real base of operations at a defensible location with multiple runways that will allow us to operate our own aircraft.

'I've been told by multiple people that this was the plan, it was the only rational plan, and the answer [from the White House] was 'that's not happening.'

'The idea of introducing more forces, retaking Bagram, was just ruled out completely.'

Faddis claimed that Bagram was dismissed despite senior military officials briefing the White House against using Kabul's city-center civilian airport, Hamid Karzai International, as a base because of the vulnerability of US troops were it attacked by the Taliban.

'It was made very clear in regard to Kabul International Airport that it is a completely non-viable military solution to begin with because it is a militarily indefensible position,' Faddis said.

'It's a tiny little perimeter on a single airstrip surrounded by high ground with potentially tens of thousands of enemy fighters closing in.

'The only resupply is by that single airstrip, and that airstrip can be rendered essentially useless any time the enemy decides by firing rockets and artillery onto the runway.'

Faddis said Biden was told: 'You are placing our troops on the ground in a position which we cannot hold if it is contested.'

'The military told him explicitly this is not a viable military option, meaning if you do this, unless we are extraordinarily lucky, we are going to lose very badly and be lucky if we ever see any of our people ever again. That's what that translates to in US military parlance,' he said.

'Biden made that decision knowing that he was placing an American force in a position where potentially he knew going in he wasn't even guaranteed to get the troops out – forget about the American citizens in Kabul.'

Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby dismissed the idea of retaking Bagram when questioned by journalists on Monday.

'What you're talking about would be an expenditure of resources, and personnel, as well as an increase most likely to the threat that they're under to try to go back and... retake Bagram airbase, which is the size of a small city,' he said.

'It was closed down as part of the retrograde. It was always supposed to be closed down as part of the retrograde. It was the last base to be turned over to the Afghans.'

Kirby declined to comment to reporters about the alleged 82nd Airborne Division denied proposal to seize the airbase.

A military contractor who spoke to DailyMail.com on the condition of anonymity said he had been asked by the DoD to source pilots and planes to evacuate civilians from Kabul.

He claimed that he too had been told by sources in Kabul that the deadline for the civilian evacuation was swiftly approaching and would be much sooner than the Taliban's August 31 cutoff for all American troops.



'They're talking uniformed military personnel out by the 31st, and they're giving a shorter window for all non-military civilians,' he said.

The contractor added that after readying pilots and making planes available to evacuate the thousands waiting in Kabul for rescue, senior government officials scrapped the job.

'We were approached to provide aircraft for the airlift to start getting people out,' he said. 'We provided a bunch of aircraft and then were denied permission to land. Go figure.

'Two weeks ago US military came to me and said 'Can you find planes and pilots willing to fly into Kabul?'

'I said 'Yes, no problem.' The next day I was working on it. We said we could get these amount of planes, can carry this many packs, they're willing to fly in.

'They said ok, we'll get the clearances. They went back to get the clearances and they were told no.'
 

The Hammer

Has No Life - Lives on TB
They're not going to get everyone even if they want to, because they are clearly not prepared. They likely don't even know how many there are to get out, where they are, or who they are.

It's clear they not only never had their ducks in a row, they weren't even aware there were ducks.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
I didn’t think I could be more disgusted with this FRAUDULENT administration, but wouldn’t you know it,

They let our US embassy staff to even rot in Afghanistan. The one word I use to describe Trump, compassionate. Biden, EVIL

This is the same Administration more or less that allowed for Benghazi to happen and then lied, lied, lied, lied and lied more about it.
RT 1min
View: https://twitter.com/DoctorSekzi/status/1430646806787076100?s=20
 

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
I suspect things will wind down quickly now.

Don't be shocked if we are out before Aug. 31?
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No surprise.

I posted this morning about being gone in a few days, maybe as early as Friday.


per FOX

Pentagon says evacuations will be halted in a matter of days.
Halting early before deadline to allow US mil to get all troops (equipment too?) out.

I believe I had posted a tweet or something a day or two ago about halting evacs by Friday. (could be miss remembering)
 
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