HEALTH Unmasking true health

[L.A.B.]

Over the holiday weekend DW was feeling a little bladder pressure. She was taking cranberry juice, then cranberry health product, then an OTC for pain or urgency.

She was hesitant to go do a walk in appointment due to the remote chance of walking into a room of potential COVID-19 due to a sick person.

She donned her mask, checked in, walked back out and left continued wearing (the light-blue loose fitting mouth bra) as I call them. She waited outside with me for half an hour before bring called in for her check up.

DW has been known to be 100% on Oxygen test. Even 99% back in a December visit.

Today, donning the mask for 30 minutes, with NO lung or breathing or heart problems, she measured a 96!

As I watched a 80-something to 90 year old man aided by his son donning his breathing muzzle, I got chills watching his eye lids change and drop after sitting down with it on for just a few brief minutes.

Hey governor newbie... ..|..

 

[SmithJ]

But how can that be? So many people on tb2k have assured us that the masks can’t stop anything.

Its like “trying to stop the virus with a chain link fence” they say.......

I’m confused. How can they not stop the virus, but stop the oxygen?

 

[Border Collie Dad]

I’m confused. How can they not stop the virus, but stop the oxygen?

She should have worn it over her eyes.
That seems to be a transmission point.

And, there is no proven new virus

 

[L.A.B.]

But how can that be? So many people on tb2k have assured us that the masks can’t stop anything.

Its like “trying to stop the virus with a chain link fence” they say.......

I’m confused.How can they not stop the virus, but stop the oxygen?

I concur.

Still, best I can do is simply offer clear data with a beta test type standard. That’s all.

The simplicity of your position is a direct correlation between your porous mask of sincerity, and your seemingly veiled agenda. I don’t care to know why.

All theory-opinion-agenda aside. I did have a real world experience. My wife had recently lost a sister out of country to COVID-19; one she has not seen since she helped her through another health problem in 2009. In all likelihood it was from the dentist who worked on her while wearing a mask in his office

I watched my wife receiving text’s from her niece down south as the niece would ask about escalating symptoms neither understood. The input of serious members here and the data they collected over the last six months proved to me early on in my sister-in-law’s condition, she was COVID-19 bound for death.

It is next to impossible to change the mind of arrogance. Ego screws people slowly. My wife pleaded with her sister to find some clove oil for her tooth problem and just sit out the dentist visit two months ago.

30 days later...

She was gone.

Day 27 through 30 was like a bad horror movie. Day 24 offered just enough hope to toy with the family. Then the high fever over 104.5, the copious volume of mucus, the cackling sputter of breath, the failing organs, the 180+ pulsing heartbeat, the blood pressure drop to 30, and the blood oxygen content dropping below the machine gaged reading.

Blue lips 12 hours before death.

Limbs going blue about 6 hours before death.

Every vein under her tee-shirt at death was like a blue stream against her light skin.

My wife would get these updates from the niece by text and phone call. We could not get prophylactics into that FUBAR $#!+ #•£e of a corrupt communist nation. The stuff has to go carry-on with a family contact later this month for her nieces protection.

The niece who has crossed the 30 day incubation period was the caretaker during her mom’s 30-day countdown of life. One hospital visit declaring it pneumonia; the rest of her sickness at home. Such are conditions in a defunded dystopian motherland.

.357smith, before we go blowing smoke into theory, consider a beta test if you will.

Place a typical N-95 disposable mask over your mouth and nose. Put on a pair of large lensed glasses and simply breath or even just talk a few words out-loud.

I have yet to find a fabric or fiber mask that stops the glasses from fogging. That fog is the vapor of breath from the air you cycled through your lungs. Sick and transmitting or healthy as a horse, it matters NOT!...

...WHY? Because we just proved that mask that can inhibit the oxygenation of your blood, is porous enough to transmit vapor, water molecules and thereby virus, around the fit of the mask against your face.

If you were only concerned about yourself, and not The Kenny’s and Karen’s with ridicule spears around you; you would understand the fail factor in your attempts at avoiding contact with potential virus.

Self deception on the drawn breath.

Lying to Kenny & Karen as you exhale.

Virologist wear positive pressure space suits with this type of stuff while us simple folk do the six-foot radius Waltz around the grocery store acting like do-good’ers, badge of courage participants, PC Purple Warriors, or wanna-be NAZI Tracer - Statist finger pointer enforcer.

Anyone who has pushed a belt sander, swept black coke dust off the hull of a vessel, or helped mom in the kitchen cutting the fleshy pulp from a jalapeño pepper, is leagues over qualified in experience of the realities of shielding, filtering, and the practicalities of PPE.

We are baby sitting The Red China Virus of Compliance on our soil now. It effects our nation, our freedoms, our laws and our sensibilities in ways 9,999/10,000 would have never first imagined.


Managed chaos requires the heavy-lift free thinking spirit of imagination that reads the OPP-FORCE footprints before they lift the next foot to place.

CRISIS ACTIONS

CRISIS AUTHORITARIANS

CRISIS COMPROMISING DECISIONS.

IMPORTED PROBLEMATIC STRESS
FEAR-FOOLISHNESS
BORG-GROUP CONSENSUS

Nah... This too shall pass.

 

[SmithJ]

There is a lot in your post above; Much that I assume is not meant to be addressed, so I'll just address a couple of items.

But first I will say - I don't mean or intend to be argumentative or judgmental, as far as I'm concerned we are just having a discussion, the outcome of which in reality matters not, because we are just anonymous on the internet and I'm sure no ones behavior will be modified at all.

And second, I am sorry for your family's loss.

Back to the topic. - First, any joking aside, I truly don't understand the statements regarding cloth masks stopping oxygen flow but not stopping the virus. Whichever side is correct, it seems to be mutually exclusive. Either one or the other. I just can't see how it can be both. Pick a side, either one. Don't argue both in the same breath. (not you specifically)

Second, regarding the mask and leaking, fogging etc. No one (at least that I see/hear) is claiming the cloth masks to be 100% airtight. The whole theory is that the masks create a barrier to slow exhaled particles and decrease transmission. It's just common sense, the same as covering your mouth/nose when coughing/sneezing. And hence they are much more effective in stopping a person from transmitting disease than from catching it. That's why a high level of compliance is necessary.

And whether someone is willing to wear a mask or not, I really just don't see how someone can argue that having a cover over your mouth/nose doesn't slow the velocity of spit/snot/exhaled air. And that's the point. Don't be a carrier/spreader.

People (and I don't mean you specifically) should just quit making arguments that don't make sense. If you just won't wear one - just say "I don't want to" Quit making up stuff about masks that don't make sense.

And finally, regarding the glasses fogging. I wear glasses, and your statement is true regarding most cloth masks. But again, they are not intended or claimed to be 100%. As stated above, they are intended to slow the velocity/range of spit/snot/exhaled air. Regarding glasses and n95s, I’ve worn them for years. If properly sized, I have no fogging issues.

 

[L.A.B.]

Smith.357, I can only go by my experiences.

As a young man half a life ago, I endured a series of heath test for the industry I was stepping into. One such test to measure lung strength, volume and stamina was the test depicted in the film ‘The Right Stuff’ about the Apollo astronauts. It’s where you blow into the flex-hose and suspend the ping-pong looking ball to a certain graduated level for a certain amount of time.

A good ways into the test, the data collector recording my efforts was like OMG! Your a full 1/3 over the best results I have seen over two weeks of giving these test all day.

OK. I got that then. I was a middle distance runner who took on scrambling up and down a 150’ nearby cliff as part of a 4.2 mile run 4 to 5 days a week for 20 years. Breathing is fundamental. We should not over or under-think it.

Our vehicles suffer from restrictions in air flow, and even have oxygen sensors for optimizing efficient operation.

A simple restriction might be the diminished air flow through the (air-filter) due to micro or macro debris. The same oxygen at sea level of almost 21%, falls to 17.3% at 5,000 feet altitude. The oxygen is still there, but your going to need to move a larger volume in ratio to time to achieve the same comfort level.

Placing any obstruction that hinders unimpeded air flow over the nose and or mouth, will decrease measured oxygen content of blood. Compounding the negative effects and leading to further pulmonary stress.

There is no case for reason in your position that if a virus passes right through a mask, then oxygen can surely as well. Of course it can! What cannot, is the volume of unrestricted breath at the same level, without copious effort on those least able to perform at that level.

During the cold-peak of this bio-war flu season, people asked me why I wore a 3-M P-100 silicone half mask and independent goggles. I said because I can, and because the folks who brought us this party need to see our American Neanderthals adapting to over come.

This isn’t about my opinion, or yours. It’s about adapting, complying, or just going to our knees with a loose fitting spittle deflecting mouth bra on because any compliance is good compliance.

I gotta go now before the wife finds me foaming at the mouth.

Thanks .357smith for the springboard opportunity to delve deeper into this with a little resistance.

Too late, here she is. Gotta go.

 

[WalknTrot]

96% is still normal if you are sitting around and not doing anything to work your lungs.

 

[L.A.B.]

96% is still normal if you are sitting around and not doing anything to work your lungs.

And 96% with a mask might equate to 92%.

And this isn’t about my wife. As I said, she’s good to go. It’s about the rest of older, frail, or incompetent among us; those who are mandated to be the good sheep.

About a month ago I was watching the fear culminate the weekend people were ‘allowed’ to hike the beach. It was a bright sunny day on the trails. Still very few people out.

Being a clairsentient, and by the way Smith, I’ve never embellished a single testimony... I sense people like they are flash cards, and sometimes the return turns my stomach for knowing their fragile construct. It was on a day like that, I put a used N-95 on each knee and hiked against traffic on a trail by the street.

It was eye opening.•. to (((PING))) the non-verbal feedback. Always is I guess.

Yeah, on occasion I do a bit of non-invasive mind stimulating meme’s for the folks who have become volunteer zombies. It’s the sort of a public service message that neither NPR, nor See-BS, or FOX could find the sovereignty to promote.

Based on my observations over the last few months, In my estimation, the sheeple are being duped (conditioned) into believing and thereby will be reacting to any future airborne potential aerosolized, or other threat in a one size fits all prophylactic, and uninformed, inexperienced, and know it all is gonna hurt.

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