TECH Unlimited Power? You decide! He wants to release this as open source for others to develop

[metroguy]

This is quite amazing, he has seemingly harnessed unlimited power..What do you think? This may make interrstellar space travel a reality, and so much more!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzfgq1zv8jg

 

[Ender]

This is quite amazing, he has seemingly harnessed unlimited power..What do you think? This may make interrstellar space travel a reality, and so much more!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzfgq1zv8jg

Fabulous!

 

[bw]

Fabulous!

a : resembling or suggesting a fable : of an incredible, astonishing, or exaggerated nature

 

[LoupGarou]

Naudin played with the design back in 1997, and could not reproduce the results.

The laws of thermodynamics still stand.
I wouldn't hold your breath.

Loup

 

[twincougars]

Then there's my invention, the Low Inertia Armature Generator (LIAG)
http://www.twincougars.com/LIAG.TXT

 

[twincougars]

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http://www.twincougars.com/LIAG.TXT

 

[Satanta]

Naudin played with the design back in 1997, and could not reproduce the results.

The laws of thermodynamics still stand.
I wouldn't hold your breath.

Loup

Rules, like bones, are meant to be broken.

Actually I am running in Safe Mode so my sound system is disabled until I resolve this computer. I am considering my shotgun.

Is this guys idea worth saving?

Outside the box thinking is IF it has merit it is going to 'Go Away' fairly quickly.

 

[WFK]

The LAWS of Physics are not rules, so trying to break them may be futile.
These goodies will re-appear within 15 years maximum, which is the time frame for
really big mistakes to be repeated.

In theory the energy problems of the world are already solved by
over-unity efficiency motors,
cold fusion,
cars running on water.
Unfortunately, all these discoveries were suppressed by the PTB!
If you check a collection of big claims over the past 15 years, you might actually find many more!

 

[Satanta]

The LAWS of Physics are not rules, so trying to break them may be futile.
These goodies will re-appear within 15 years maximum, which is the time frame for
really big mistakes to be repeated.

In theory the energy problems of the world are already solved by
over-unity efficiency motors,
cold fusion,
cars running on water.
Unfortunately, all these discoveries were suppressed by the PTB!
If you check a collection of big claims over the past 15 years, you might actually find many more!

Well, I am in no position to argue for or against and I tend to approch things with a huge chunk of skepticism, however these LAW are cinstantly beinf found as non-valid.

I *think* it was BBC a few weeks ago talking about scientists discovering a molecule, aton or whatever that moves FTL. Broke Einsteins E=MCsquared IIRC the article correctly.

They found a few years ago tha light can be bent tho the LAW stated it moved in a straight line.

That said-do I think someone can run their car on water? Not unless it is a boat car using gas/diesel as fuel...

 

[Uhhmmm...]

Well, I am in no position to argue for or against and I tend to approch things with a huge chunk of skepticism, however these LAWS are constantly being found as non-valid.

I *think* it was BBC a few weeks ago talking about scientists discovering a molecule, atom or whatever that moves FTL. Broke Einsteins E=MCsquared IIRC the article correctly.

They found a few years ago that light can be bent tho the LAW stated it moved in a straight line....

Sat, the laws of physics are rarely found to be incorrect. Of course, their mathematical representation upon scales of wildly differing dimensions might give that illusion.

Newtonian mechanics described the motion of planetary bodies well enough for mankind to reach the moon and return. However, they did not describe well various electromagnetic phenomena or very small or large scales. Einstein's general and special theories of relativity defined special cases for the very small and for the electromagnetic fields. The theories of relativity are quite consistent with Newtonian mechanics - they are just a broader description of the same facets of the universe.

As for the recent discovery of FTL particles, you may note that the media has jumped the gun, so to speak. While such particles have theoretically been identified, the difference in speed between these particles and the speed of light is a very small fraction that appears to be within the range of error. Scientists are still discussing this and hope to repeat the work at some time in the near future. With any luck, they will find that the results do indeed fall with the experimental error.

As for discovering that light bends, that was covered by the laws of relativity. Einstein predicted it, it was found to be true, and it was indeed a major validation of the general relativity theory.

No one has ever found a flaw in the principles of thermodynamics, and none are expected. Most of the 'perpetual motion' machines get around this by finding new 'sources' of energy in space.

While it is true that scientists debate the meaning and composition of dark matter and dark energy, the forces manifested by these two as yet unexplained phenomena are too weak to power anything of value here on earth. Every other source of energy has been identified and exploited if at all possible.

.

 

[Satanta]

Uhhmmm.....

Well, ok then.

Actually I got most of what you said and the little I am not sure of just leaves me with something to research.

Curiosity, you said:

With any luck, they will find that the results do indeed fall with the experimental error.

Why with any luck?

If they find that they are correct it seems it would open up other venues for research perhaps in FTL travel, if it is within the norm it just seems like it would be a simple failure on a calculation or measurement.

 

[TerryK]

Good post Uhhmmm

 

[Uhhmmm...]

...Curiosity, you said:

'With any luck...'

Why with any luck?

If they find that they are correct it seems it would open up other venues for research perhaps in FTL travel, if it is within the norm it just seems like it would be a simple failure on a calculation or measurement.

Sat, I suspect you have both the heart of a scientist and a science fiction fan.

You are quite correct. Life would be much more interesting if we discovered a particle that could exceed the speed of light. It would keep both scientists and science fiction authors busy for a generation. You and I could set back and be happily amazed.

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[BoatGuy]

It was recently thought that Einstein's special theory of relativity might have been brought to it's knees by the observation of a particle that "seemed" to be moving faster than light. But, an error may have been found in the calculations that made them think so. So far, Einstein's theory is still standing... and it's still just a theory.

A LAW is a theory that has withstood repeated attempts to bring it down. Bringing down a law is such an extraordinary event, that I can't think of a single time that it has occurred in modern history. I'm not saying that it can't be done. But, it would definitely be earth-shattering. I won't hold my breath.

 

[Ender]

That said-do I think someone can run their car on water? Not unless it is a boat car using gas/diesel as fuel...

My brother had a friend who invented a car that ran on water- had to go into hiding; his life was threatened.

On that note, Tesla invented power that would be free to all; wonder where that went.

 

[BoatGuy]

My brother had a friend who invented a car that ran on water-

So did I. But, I was only half successful. But, I haven't given up on the idea that someday my car will go uphill, as well as downhill.

(just yanking your chain, Ender... LOL)

 

[BoatGuy]

Ok... All joking aside, I have watched the video and am in the process of reading through the guy's website. This is very intriguing.

 

[milkydoo]

No one has ever found a flaw in the principles of thermodynamics, and none are expected. Most of the 'perpetual motion' machines get around this by finding new 'sources' of energy in space.

This is very important to note, because 'skeptics/scientists' are always bashing cutting edge (alt) scientists and laymen when we talk about 'new laws'. The labels and lingo get so many people stirred up for no good reason.

In layman's speak, a 'new energy source' is the practical equivalent of a 'new law'. It has the same effect. Now maybe 'new law' is the incorrect term, but if somebody finds a new source of energy that can be tapped, then that is a fabulous thing, regardless of what you call it.

The basic idea that energy cycles or transmutes, rather than being created or destroyed, is a very simple, and easy to understand concept. So I don't have a problem with new energy sources all falling into line with the Thermodynamics laws.

The bottom line is, there are other energy sources out there. There are just too many people still gorging themselves on the idea that, 'we've just about got it all locked down'. Really? Haven't we learned anything from history? We have a toe hold, at best, and look what we've done with it. We have an entire society based on war and domination and truth manipulation. Am I supposed to believe that the most cutting edge ideas and scientific truths are going to flow freely from a foundation like that?

The speed of light may be an actual maximum in 3D, but who the hell is still clinging to 3D? A bunch of rickety old scientists, stroking their egos with lectures and textbooks who know nothing of what it is to live life as a real human being?

3D is old hat. It's time to get with the 90's. If you look at ALL of our civilization's history, there is evidence pointing to far better and grander things than the piss-ant crap we've got going on now. Few are willing to put the pieces together, though.

 

[ainitfunny]

Well, I have been asserting as long as I can remember that there is no such thing as a straight line in the Universe, finally someone agrees with me. When I can't sleep I try to figure out how to defeat the Universe (in absolute space and time) and create a straight line but it always ends up a coil and I fall asleep thinking about it.

I hope the power and money morons who control everything are not so stupid as to kill off this guy to prevent his knowledge coming to bear on the system of wealth power and control they have established for themselves. They would REALLY be shooting themselves not in the foot but in the head with anything so stupid as to try to kill this man and his source of wisdom. Wealth is NOT a ZERO SUM GAME. Too bad the wealthy cannot perceive that.

 

[Chair Warmer]

Well, I have been asserting as long as I can remember that there is no such thing as a straight line in the Universe, finally someone agrees with me. When I can't sleep I try to figure out how to defeat the Universe (in absolute space and time) and create a straight line but it always ends up a coil and I fall asleep thinking about it.

I hope the power and money morons who control everything are not so stupid as to kill off this guy to prevent his knowledge coming to bear on the system of wealth power and control they have established for themselves. They would REALLY be shooting themselves not in the foot but in the head with anything so stupid as to try to kill this man and his source of wisdom. Wealth is NOT a ZERO SUM GAME. Too bad the wealthy cannot perceive that.

Everything in our realm is temporary. All straight lines eventually give way to more powerful forces that erode and bend them out of place.

Of course they would want to kill him rather than to lose their power and money.

 

[Electronrider]

Just a heads up about the FTL particles talked about above, they found out that they did not properly do the calculations. They disproved that the particles went faster than light.

 

[Dobbin]

Keely Motor?

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/keely/keely-h.htm

No horsepower is free. 2nd Law of Thermodynamics (increasing entropy) makes sure.

And you don't need to be a horse, or a professional engineer to know that.

Joe

 

[willowlady]

Uhhmmm, SOMETHING is moving faster than the speed of light:

f

or the simplest interpretation of your question, the answer is that the universe does expand faster than the speed of light, and, perhaps more surprisingly, some of the galaxies we can see right now are currently moving away from us faster than the speed of light!

See: http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=575

Therefore, the speed-of-light maximum is no longer accurate even in the visible universe. One of the implications of this fact is that we can never know the full scope and size of the universe we live in, because much of it has already moved out of our range of sight.

Further, there is recent news that the rate of expansion of the universe is increasing. Where is the energy coming from for this increase? Seems to violate the first law of thermodynamics... The boffins don't know, but they've made up a new source called Dark Energy. My point is, what we think we know today may, and most likely will, change in the future.

So, relevant to OP, all you dreamers, you: Keep looking for ways to bend and break all the rules and make a better life... The universe itself points the way.

 

[LoupGarou]

The key to believing any invention or claim is when other people or groups can duplicate the exact invention or claim. So far, I have yet to find anyone able to do this with this claim, including Naudin. Naudin DOES have some devices and systems that DO work on his site, BUT none of them are actually "over unity", but instead they use energy from other sources, such as magnets. Several of us locally have duplicated several of Naudin's designs.

Odd wound coils creating "odd" H-field and E-field results? Sure, I can believe that. One creating free energy or becoming an over unity device? So far nobody has been able to do that.

You want free energy? Get a space tether system setup. Then all you have to do is get it back down to Earth safely...

Loup

 

[Delta]

I watched the video very carefully. Perhaps this explains my DW's hot flashes.

 

[LoupGarou]

Uhhmmm, SOMETHING is moving faster than the speed of light:

f
See: http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=575

Therefore, the speed-of-light maximum is no longer accurate even in the visible universe. One of the implications of this fact is that we can never know the full scope and size of the universe we live in, because much of it has already moved out of our range of sight.

Further, there is recent news that the rate of expansion of the universe is increasing. Where is the energy coming from for this increase? Seems to violate the first law of thermodynamics... The boffins don't know, but they've made up a new source called Dark Energy. My point is, what we think we know today may, and most likely will, change in the future.

So, relevant to OP, all you dreamers, you: Keep looking for ways to bend and break all the rules and make a better life... The universe itself points the way.

It's not expanding at the speed of light, that was just the easiest layperson explanation.

From that same link:

Is the universe expanding faster than the speed of light?

I had a recent discussion with a professor about the early universe and rapid expansion. He affirmed that the expansion was not greater than the speed of light. Why is there such a misunderstanding about this?

It's a perspective issue, not a "breaking the speed of light issue", where the measuring is a relative one using two points, both moving away from each other. They go on to start to explain this later on in the article:

The bottom line is that different pairs of galaxies are moving at different speeds with respect to each other; the further the galaxies are, the faster they move apart. So when we ask whether the universe is "expanding faster than the speed of light," I am going to interpret that to mean, "Are there any two galaxies in the universe which are moving faster than the speed of light with respect to each other?"

Think of it this way, you are on the highway, zipping along at a mild 70 miles per hour, as is everybody else on the highway (Yeah, I know, fat chance). As you see it, people standing on the side of the highway next to their broken down vehicle are being passed by at 70 miles per hour, and the traffic in the other direction is now doing 140 miles per hour at you. Yes, technically both views are correct, but they are both in reference to a moving location itself.

Loup

 

[Dobbin]

Think of it this way, you are on the highway, zipping along at a mild 70 miles per hour, as is everybody else on the highway (Yeah, I know, fat chance). As you see it, people standing on the side of the highway next to their broken down vehicle are being passed by at 70 miles per hour, and the traffic in the other direction is now doing 140 miles per hour at you. Yes, technically both views are correct, but they are both in reference to a moving location itself.

This is getting real close to a Stephen Wright routine:

You're in your car, travelling at the speed of light. What happens when you turn the headlights on?

Einstein's answer (not Wright's) is that to the driver of the car NOTHING would change. The lights would appear to go "on."

Of course driver's timeframe (perception of passage of time) would be "different."

Stephen Wright: I named my dog "Come Here." This worked until I wanted him to stay. He got confused.

Funny human.

Joe

 

[Tom McDowell]

Well, I have been asserting as long as I can remember that there is no such thing as a straight line in the Universe, finally someone agrees with me. When I can't sleep I try to figure out how to defeat the Universe (in absolute space and time) and create a straight line but it always ends up a coil and I fall asleep thinking about it.

Sacred Living Geometry -Enlightened Environmental Theories of Viktor Schauberger
2:50:47

See about 2:30:00

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5643559434275921302&ei=kjOdS6HVOZmmrAOj_dmSDA&q

I hope the power and money morons who control everything are not so stupid as to kill off this guy to prevent his knowledge coming to bear on the system of wealth power and control they have established for themselves. They would REALLY be shooting themselves not in the foot but in the head with anything so stupid as to try to kill this man and his source of wisdom. Wealth is NOT a ZERO SUM GAME. Too bad the wealthy cannot perceive that.

The Occupy Movement is a stand against Corruption & the Elite
Uploaded by GregorArturo85 on Oct 7, 2011

Gregor Arturo shares his perspective is the core philosophies of of Occupy Movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32aiugcfFQQ

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[Avatar]

The key to believing any invention or claim is when other people or groups can duplicate the exact invention or claim. So far, I have yet to find anyone able to do this with this claim, including Naudin. Naudin DOES have some devices and systems that DO work on his site, BUT none of them are actually "over unity", but instead they use energy from other sources, such as magnets. Several of us locally have duplicated several of Naudin's designs.

Odd wound coils creating "odd" H-field and E-field results? Sure, I can believe that. One creating free energy or becoming an over unity device? So far nobody has been able to do that.

You want free energy? Get a space tether system setup. Then all you have to do is get it back down to Earth safely...

Loup

Ya know Loup.
I always look for your posts when it comes to matters of science and hard facts. You and Hfcomms and a few others here have a very high level of practical analytical intelligence that I respect and admire. I have no head for math, but I do have a pretty good grasp on vague concepts and trying to look at the BIG picture of "reality". To do this I have learned to listen to my intuition and not to analyze everything. What we humans have done with what we have been given is mind boggling, and we're pretty proud of ourselves for it. But I don't think we have a CLUE as to how things really work.

My intuition strongly tells me this whole field of study is something that should not be dismissed out of hand just because it does not fit well into our presumed laws. Because when you start looking into these things you start seeing how it really does encompass just about everything and how perfectly and simply it all fits together.

in other words...

USE THE FORCE LOUP

 

[LoupGarou]

...
My intuition strongly tells me this whole field of study is something that should not be dismissed out of hand just because it does not fit well into our presumed laws. Because when you start looking into these things you start seeing how it really does encompass just about everything and how perfectly and simply it all fits together.

in other words...

USE THE FORCE LOUP

I'm not dismissing the possibility of their being energy sources out there that would be great to be able to tap into. I am dismissing things that claim internal only "over-unity" (the device itself generates more power than it uses. Some of these LOOK like they are doing this, but under closer examination, are actually using other energy sources, or have been poorly measured or documented. Most are outright frauds.

As I said, check out the work of Naudin, especially his magnetic based devices.

As far as other power sources that I would REALLY LIKE to see come to everyday use, the one at the top of my list is as simple as Einstein's E=MC^2. If we could ever break the barrier of matter to energy conversion (and vice versa). THAT would be the pinnacle of energy sourcing, as we CONSTANTLY have an insanely large supply of junk that we don't need that could be converted to energy. And it does not take a lot of matter to create a LOT of energy, so we would be set for a long time...

I'm waiting...I'm just not holding my breath...

Loup

 

[LoupGarou]

For example, ones that I have personally seen work:
JLN's SMOT:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotidx.htm
(Perfect for demonstrating the possibilities, as well as using 4 to make a continuous loop "toy" for (someone else's) kids. (It will keep going and going till the magnets give out (think years), clack, clack, clack, clacking all the way).

Howard Johnson's motor:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/johnmot.htm
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Howard_Johnson_Motor/1979Paper/
http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/US04151431__
http://www.newebmasters.com/freeenergy/sm-pg45.html
http://www.rexresearch.com/johnson/1johnson.htm
(This design is probably the most useful as it is big enough to do real work with).

JLN's RMOG:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/rmodmk2.htm
(It works, but you need to make DANG sure that there is some form of load on the rotor to keep it from over-revving and flinging those three steel ball bearings out at a pretty good clip. The first one off WILL make it unstable enough to send the other two almost instantly. Make it run a fan or something, just to keep it spinning and not flinging. Do NOT let kids play with this one.

Loup

 

[willowlady]

Okay, I stand corrected, somewhat.... It's not the universe expanding faster than the speed of light, it is space itself. Sure seems like it's all in the same pot to me! I'll take NASA's word for it. And I reiterate.... Something (even if it's the mostly-nothingness of space) is traveling (expanding) faster than the speed of light.

It is true that nothing can go faster than the speed of light. And it is also true that our universe is expanding faster than the speed of light today. This sounds like a contradiction, but actually it is space itself that is expanding faster than the speed of light, driving objects further apart at an increasing rate.

See: http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/070904a.html

 

[Satanta]

Uhhmmm... I was into Paleontology, biology and such when I was younger but it was 'discouraged'. Enough years of being told "You'll never make a living like that-learn to be a manager or something.' and you give up.

I aam inquisitive, however.

Now, on another note. If you are traveling faster than the speed of light in your car and turn on the headlights will your beams flap along behind your car?

REmember-it was once a fact that the Earth is flat and the Sn revolves around it.

 

[Dobbin]

Now, on another note. If you are traveling faster than the speed of light in your car and turn on the headlights will your beams flap along behind your car?

Nope. Nuttin can go faster than the speed of light according to Einsteinian theory.

If it were possible to go the speed of light (and its not) you would sit in the drivers seat and flip the switch. But what has happened is as you approach that speed the passage of time has slowed and if you're truly going at the speed of light, the passage of time for the car, driver, and headlights will actually have STOPPED completely.

The classic science book example is the astronaut who takes a rocket to the nearest star Alpha Centauri. The trip at 80 percent of the speed of light takes him 40 years to go and return. He arrives back on earth as a spritely 65 year old ready for retirement.

However, he find in the interim that 800 years have passed on earth (because it's not moving) and he files for Social Security only to find that the trust fund has been depleted in his absence (no surprise there!)

Along with the slowing or stopping of the passage of time, other effects will be an increase in the mass of the moving parts, including the driver. Weight Watchers will not help. Plus to accelerate even closer to the speed of light will require yet more acceleration, and this applied to an even larger mass. You finally reach a point where infinite force is required to move infinite mass at the speed of light. This is VERY not possible. Epic Fail.

At least according to Mr. Einstein.

Nuclear physics from a horse. Well, a somewhat talented horse.

I can count too.

Bang - one

Bang - two

Figures. Owner yells at me to stop banging on the stall.

Joe

 

[Kook]

My brother had a friend who invented a car that ran on water- had to go into hiding; his life was threatened.

On that note, Tesla invented power that would be free to all; wonder where that went.

Tesla's broadcasting of power idea failed because of the inherent inefficiencies of most of the power radiating into space, much worse than resistive losses in modern power lines.

IF there was someone that invented a car that ran on water, that scientific knowledge was also waiting for others to discover, and most likely would have been done by now. Maybe sometime we'll capture zero point energy, but for now there's no free lunch.