Two Cheers for Bush's Moral Mandate!

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Two Cheers for Bush's Moral Mandate!
The Bright Side of Black Tuesday

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

What was the presidential election about?

In their victory speeches, Vice President Cheney and President Bush claimed a "mandate," "historic victory," and that "America has spoken."

A mandate for what? A victory for what? How spake America?

Pundits have declared that the election was about "moral values." Americans in the red states voted against homosexual marriage and abortion.

Let's hope that this is correct. Otherwise, America is doomed if Bush's reelection is based on his economic and foreign policy record.

Can you imagine our peril if Bush's mandate is for unprecedented trade and budget deficits and job loss? Or for taking the country to war based on incompetence or deception?

Thankfully, the electorate did not give Bush a mandate for getting thousands of Americans killed and maimed for no other reason than the Bush administration's inability to assess the intent and capability of Iraq. Bush's reelection is not a mandate for establishing a dozen or more permanent US military bases in Iraq and expanding the war to Syria, Lebanon, and Iran.

If Bush limits his second term to homosexual marriage and abortion, we and the world will be a lot safer. Medical doctors will not stop putting the mother's life first, and homosexuals are no more in need of marriage than the large percentage of heterosexuals who have abandoned it. Homosexual marriage has never been much more than a way to assert legitimacy that most rubs opponents' noses in the proverbial.

If Americans allow Cheney, Bush and their neoconservative masters to claim a mandate for preemptive attack against misperceived enemies and for removing disliked dictators, no draft aged American and few countries without nuclear weapons are safe. If Republicans claim a mandate for moving American jobs offshore while amnestying millions of illegals, no American's job is secure. If Bush claims a mandate for unprecedented red ink, American children have no future.

By all means, please let's keep Bush's mandates limited to moral values. Let us not even criticize the Christian right-wing for preening their "moral values" feathers while ratifying an illegal invasion that has killed somewhere between 15,000 and 100,000 innocent Iraqis, mostly women and children, and ended or ruined the lives of some 10,000 American sons, fathers, husbands and brothers.

For our own sakes, we must limit Bush's mandate to a veto of homosexual marriage and to Supreme Court appointments that might, possibly, overturn Roe v. Wade.

Repeat after me: No mandate for preemptive war. No mandate for American Empire. No mandate for isolating America from its allies. No mandate for Israeli territorial expansion in the Middle East. No mandate for endless red ink. No mandate for selling out American jobs and occupations to foreigners. No mandate for a domestic police state.

I am beginning to like the outcome of this election.

Paul Craig Roberts is John M. Olin Fellow at the Institute for Political Economy and Research Fellow at the Independent Institute. He is a former assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury. He is the co-author of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.
 

fruit loop

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This "mandate" crap is bullshit

he could claim a mandate if he'd won in a landslide. He didn't.

he had a "majority" of votes in that he won....but two or three million votes isn't a mandate. The country was all but evenly split. In other words, about half the country loves him and the other half hates him.

You have a mandate from the voters when the vast majority support you and your policy.

That is not the case here.
 

Opus Dei

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Perhaps by "mandate", he meant Republican control of Presidency, Senate, and House as opposed to landslide.
 

atlantajack

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I couldn't believe it when Cheney claimed a "mandate" either! 51% does not a mandate make!
This morning's paper indicates Bush is going to spend his "political capital" to push his second-term agenda of reforming Social Security and the tax code. I don't recall him campaigning on those issues, do you?!
Jack :shk:
 

mbo

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because you never listened

atlantajack said:
I couldn't believe it when Cheney claimed a "mandate" either! 51% does not a mandate make!
This morning's paper indicates Bush is going to spend his "political capital" to push his second-term agenda of reforming Social Security and the tax code. I don't recall him campaigning on those issues, do you?!
Jack :shk:

Every single campaign speech included them.


  • I for one would be ecastatic if the Fed butted it's nose out of my retirement funds.


  • I for one would be ecastatic if I did not need a tax preparation service every year.
 

fruit loop

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I'm not surprised

I told TOucan Sam he'd do that....claim a mandate....

the article is right. glad SOME people see through the red-white-and-blue stars-and-stripes-forever hooey

The problem is that this guy has always believe he was anointed and chosen by God to be president.

Now he thinks that the public is his flock of faithful and that they believe it too.

This guy has more in common with Osama Bin Laden than he realizes.

They both think they're on a mission from God. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

mbo

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huh?

fruit loop said:
I told TOucan Sam he'd do that....claim a mandate....

the article is right. glad SOME people see through the red-white-and-blue stars-and-stripes-forever hooey

The problem is that this guy has always believe he was anointed and chosen by God to be president.

Now he thinks that the public is his flock of faithful and that they believe it too.

This guy has more in common with Osama Bin Laden than he realizes.

They both think they're on a mission from God. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Since when was tax simplification and social security reform based on religious footings??? I don't seem to remember anything in the speeches that said "God has spoken, and I must reduce the compexity of the tax code!!!"
 

CygnusXI

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I'm bored here, so I'll do some snide remarking(in bold) to this crying mans drivel.

Two Cheers for Bush's Moral Mandate!
The Bright Side of Black Tuesday

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

What was the presidential election about?

In their victory speeches, Vice President Cheney and President Bush claimed a "mandate," "historic victory," and that "America has spoken."

A mandate for what? A victory for what? How spake America?
Mandate for the Platform.. duh.
Victory from the Democratic/socialist they had run against W.
America spoke through the Election.. another Duh.. C'mon.


Pundits have declared that the election was about "moral values." Americans in the red states voted against homosexual marriage and abortion.
Pundits<-- Key word. There is an ongoing drive to pin the results on the Homo-movement. The election was about much more than that, and I believe that this pinning to Homo is just a basis for which the left, and their cohorts can come out in the future calling Bigotry and the like... A common and often used tactic.

Let's hope that this is correct. Otherwise, America is doomed if Bush's reelection is based on his economic and foreign policy record.
Why hope it's correct? Oh, I see.. because the Homo-movement is an acceptable stop-gap for you and any further issue rejection concerning other liberal ideas horrifies you to no end.

DOOMED?!
Tax cuts (for all, not the rich. We all pay, and we all got a cut. But I won't bore you with facts) are a Dooming America Policy?

DOOMED?!
Bush's foreign policy is puching America to be doomed? Please explain that one.


Can you imagine our peril if Bush's mandate is for unprecedented trade and budget deficits and job loss? Or for taking the country to war based on incompetence or deception?
Can't speak to trade issue, as I am not informed. Budget Deficit? Yeah, there is one and It's big. It does cost money to fight a global war, and a war in two nations.

Blame Bush!
Saddam was in violation of a cease-fire for 12 years. We (including the UN) had spotty (at best) info on his compliance. Saddam also fired on allied aircraft time and time again. Yet, to your mind WE are incompetent and deceptive warmongers. Whatever man. have some more koolaid


Thankfully, the electorate did not give Bush a mandate for getting thousands of Americans killed and maimed for no other reason than the Bush administration's inability to assess the intent and capability of Iraq See my comment above fool. Bush's reelection is not a mandate for establishing a dozen or more permanent US military bases in Iraq and expanding the war to Syria, Lebanon, and Iran. You know something I dont? Wow! Is sweden, Italy and France next too, or is your ass talikng?

If Bush limits his second term to homosexual marriage and abortion, we and the world will be a lot safer. Medical doctors will not stop putting the mother's life first, and homosexuals are no more in need of marriage than the large percentage of heterosexuals who have abandoned it. Homosexual marriage has never been much more than a way to assert legitimacy that most rubs opponents' noses in the proverbial.
I tried... but could not make any sense of this whole paragraph..

If Americans allow Cheney, Bush and their neoconservative masters to claim a mandate for preemptive attack against misperceived enemiesMisperceived enemies? I don't even have the time to document all the threats, and realities that qualified Saddam as an enemy of the US. Oh, and nice to know that you think that a countrys president that plots to assasinate our president is not really an enemy. Dumbass. and for removing disliked dictators Ok. Saddam was "disliked". Much like I dislike asparagus, or stepping in poo., no draft aged American and few countries without nuclear weapons are safe.You hear us ICELAND!!! We are coming for YOU!!! HAHAHAHA. If Republicans claim a mandate for moving American jobs offshore while amnestying millions of illegals, no American's job is secure. DING DING DING!!! One point I agree on. OMG!?! If Bush claims a mandate for unprecedented red ink, American children have no future.Wha?? Mandate for red ink?

By all means, please let's keep Bush's mandates limited to moral values. Let us not even criticize the Christian right-wing for preening their "moral values" feathers while ratifying an illegal invasion that has killed somewhere between 15,000 and 100,000 innocent Iraqis, mostly women and children, and ended or ruined the lives of some 10,000 American sons, fathers, husbands and brothers.
Illegal war? Hmmm.. guess that means that you think the UN is an illegal body, and the rules of a cease-fire are an illegal concept, and also that the approval of congress is an illegal ruling. Lots of illegalness goin on here. As far as the death part goes.. might wanna look up what war actually does. GASP! People die? What? Why didn't anyone tell me???????

For our own sakes, we must limit Bush's mandate to a veto of homosexual marriage and to Supreme Court appointments that might, possibly, overturn Roe v. Wade.I'm confused here? Are you saying you WANT no Homo-marriage and you WANT Roe overturned?

Repeat after me: No mandate for preemptive war.We haven't had one yet. Iraq was not a preemtive war. No mandate for American Empire.Wha?? No mandate for isolating America from its allies.Specifically Germany and France right? I mean, they are the only major allies that are pissed. But dosent matter if they are wrong... must not make them feel bad. No mandate for Israeli territorial expansion in the Middle East.Yep. Cause I hear they are expanding into Syria and Egypt next week. No mandate for endless red ink.Again... Wha?? No mandate for selling out American jobs and occupations to foreigners.I'm with ya there. No mandate for a domestic police state.I have to go thru 5 checkpoints on my way to work. What a pain. Idiot.

I am beginning to like the outcome of this election.
My second agreement with you.
 

fruit loop

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MBO, it'll never happen

Social Security is a sacred cow and Bush will never touch it. It'll keep on ripping off workers till the end of time.

Simplify the tax code???? Yeah. Riiiiiighhhhtttt

But of course every prez keeps his campaign promises, right?

Shrub didn't do it in Texas.

He ain't doin' it in Washington either.

Never trust a Yankee
 

mbo

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hmmm...

PentelPen* said:
Shouldn't we pay for it, then?


I believe if we closed the Department of Education, the savings would more than cover it. Always wondered what that Department was for as all the schools I'm aware of are funded by local property taxes.
 

mbo

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maybe it won't happen

fruit loop said:
Social Security is a sacred cow and Bush will never touch it. It'll keep on ripping off workers till the end of time.

Simplify the tax code???? Yeah. Riiiiiighhhhtttt

But of course every prez keeps his campaign promises, right?

Shrub didn't do it in Texas.

He ain't doin' it in Washington either.

Never trust a Yankee

Maybe it won't happen, but it's still a good thing to do in both cases!!!
 

PentelPen

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mbo said:
I believe if we closed the Department of Education, the savings would more than cover it.
It might, but Bush certainly has no plans to do that, what with "No Child Left Behind" and all. In fact, he doesn't appear to have any plans to cut anything to pay for this war.
 

mbo

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Yep!

PentelPen* said:
It might, but Bush certainly has no plans to do that, what with "No Child Left Behind" and all. In fact, he doesn't appear to have any plans to cut anything to pay for this war.

All the more reason why the hand-wringing and claims of Bush being the extremist right-winger to beat all by the Dems are so laughable. All the more reason why even a remotely centrist candidate put forth by the Dems would have had a cake walk. All the more reason why the Dems have painted themselves into a left-wing corner, seeing as Bush won't slash entitlements as he should.
 
:lol:

Anytime the Left begins talking about morality you can bet it will only be a few paragraphs until the subject matter reverts to THEIR god - MONEY!
 
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