CORONA Trump Warns Suicides From The Coming Economic Depression Will Far Surpass Those From The Virus

[CaryC]

You can't deal with a virus when all your doctors are volunteers, either. You need cash.

Ever hear of Doctors without Borders? Samaritan's Purse? I don't think very many of them drive Caddie's.

Back in the day doctor's worked for barter, egg's, chicken's veggie's. So no you don't NEED cash at least for the doctors you mentioned.

Your premise suggests that doctors during the Great Depression, quit work because they didn't get paid, cash.

 

[TheSearcher]

Ever hear of Doctors without Borders? Samaritan's Purse? I don't think very many of them drive Caddie's.

Back in the day doctor's worked for barter, egg's, chicken's veggie's. So no you don't NEED cash at least for the doctors you mentioned.

Your premise suggests that doctors during the Great Depression, quit work because they didn't get paid, cash.

Quite so. There was not a glut of doctors during the Great Depression, nor of their needed tools nationwide. Yes, there are doctors that work via charity and barter, and God bless them. Most don't and most won't.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

Ever hear of Doctors without Borders? Samaritan's Purse? I don't think very many of them drive Caddie's.

Back in the day doctor's worked for barter, egg's, chicken's veggie's. So no you don't NEED cash at least for the doctors you mentioned.

Your premise suggests that doctors during the Great Depression, quit work because they didn't get paid, cash.

Your premise was valid 80 years ago. Now try comparing the total number of paid doctors to the total number of volunteer doctors and ask yourself how many of them would stick around without pay.

Yes, there will be SOME doctors that work on an unpaid basis, but how many? And for how long? Long enough to beat coronavirus? Probably not.

 

[CaryC]

Quite so. There was not a glut of doctors during the Great Depression, nor of their needed tools nationwide. Yes, there are doctors that work via charity and barter, and God bless them. Most don't and most won't.

Yeah I get that. And IMHO there never was a glut of doctors until they started making caddie cash at it. Then the universities saw an opportunity of making cash, and the story goes on.

'Course there is always the other means of making doctor's practice their profession. In Russia it's called forced labor.

 

[CaryC]

Your premise was valid 80 years ago. Now try comparing the total number of paid doctors to the total number of volunteer doctors and ask yourself how many of them would stick around without pay.

Yes, there will be SOME doctors that work on an unpaid basis, but how many? And for how long? Long enough to beat coronavirus? Probably not.

It's still valid for today. As I already noted, and as you noted. Those will be the ones in it to help people. Of course you do realize that if they quit, they have no other skills to promote to a new employer. Unhireable. I guess they could go to work in a factory, but wait they aren't open either.

I will give doctors, and nurses a pass on those who don't want to go to work because they are more likely to catch the disease. Especially when PPE's are in short supply.

 

[TheSearcher]

Yeah I get that. And IMHO there never was a glut of doctors until they started making caddie cash at it. Then the universities saw an opportunity of making cash, and the story goes on.

I suppose I should have worded it differently. What I meant was that there was a definite shortage of medical personnel during the Great Depression. A glut then or now wasn't the point. I didn't mean to trigger your social warfare sensibilities.

'Course there is always the other means of making doctor's practice their profession. In Russia it's called forced labor.

Is that what you advocate? Practice medicine or the gulag with you?

 

[CaryC]

I suppose I should have worded it differently. What I meant was that there was a definite shortage of medical personnel during the Great Depression. A glut then or now wasn't the point. I didn't mean to trigger your social warfare sensibilities.



Is that what you advocate? Practice medicine or the gulag with you?

I have no idea what you are talking about. Sounds like someone other than me was triggered. During this time of stress maybe you should get out more.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

It's still valid for today. As I already noted, and as you noted. Those will be the ones in it to help people. Of course you do realize that if they quit, they have no other skills to promote to a new employer. Unhireable. I guess they could go to work in a factory, but wait they aren't open either.

I will give doctors, and nurses a pass on those who don't want to go to work because they are more likely to catch the disease. Especially when PPE's are in short supply.

So they work for free or torch their career? Not making a lot of sense....

 

[CaryC]

So they work for free or torch their career? Not making a lot of sense....

I have no idea what you are talking about. Sounds like someone other than me was triggered. During this time of stress maybe you should get out more.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

You're the one who said it, man, not me.

Those will be the ones in it to help people. Of course you do realize that if they quit, they have no other skills to promote to a new employer. Unhireable. I guess they could go to work in a factory, but wait they aren't open either.

Basically, they work for free for the duration or they become unhireable.

 

[TheSearcher]

I have no idea what you are talking about. Sounds like someone other than me was triggered. During this time of stress maybe you should get out more.

LOL. You're the one bringing up the whole "caddie cash" thing. I wasn't even talking about how much money doctors make, rather that if they make no money at all, a majority of them won't work. And they aren't even the only profession to follow that general rule.

This is not the discussion at hand, and will move on.

 

[CaryC]

You're the one who said it, man, not me.



Basically, they work for free for the duration or they become unhireable.

I think you need to leave it alone. Because you have no idea about what I said.

So to clarify for others, because I don't think you will get it. YOU basically said if Doctor's don't get paid they will quit doctoring.

I said that idea was wrong, because doctors have in the past worked for little or no pay; example the Great Depression, and before.

Then I said IN RUSSIA Note: IN RUSSIA, those who didn't want to work were forced to work. And for a doctor to be forced to WORK IN RUSSIA meant forced labor. Duh dude.

I said nothing, note NOTHING about wanting that done here. Go for a walk.

 

[CaryC]

More than Half a Million Britons Join NHS Volunteer Coronavirus Corps

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560,000 Britons have volunteered to support the National Health Service (NHS) in taking care of the country’s vulnerable citizens during the coronavirus pandemic, more than double the initial government call for 250,000.

On Tuesday, Secretary of State for Health and Social Care Matt Hancock called for volunteers to perform simple but vital tasks for the 1.5 million Britons who will be forced to self-isolate for months.


The request was exceeded by Wednesday evening when it was revealed that 405,000 had volunteered, with reports this morning that the number had breached the half-a-million mark.
Run by the Royal Voluntary Service and coordinated through the Good SAM app, volunteers will pick up and deliver medicines and groceries to those quarantined, drive patients to medical appointments, and take time to call people to check on their wellbeing.


Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage called it a “stunning” response, adding: “I don’t think since Kitchener in 1914 have we had a national response to a call anything like that measure and number. It is absolutely fantastic and says some really good things about so many people living in our country. It’s amazing.”
Downing Street has since raised the target to 750,000. An official spokesman told a Westminster briefing in comments reported by the i newspaper: “I think the most recent number I’ve seen was around 560,000 people who have volunteered so far which is amazing — but we want people to continue to volunteer and if we can reach a number of 750,000 then that would be fantastic.”
One volunteer, Ainsley Hinchcliffe, told The Guardian that she felt it was her duty to give back to the NHS because of the help she received in beating cancer twice. The 53-year-old computer programmer said: “If anyone needs to give something back, it’s me.”
“It helps you to feel like you can do something positive, because you feel overwhelmed,” Ms Hinchcliffe said. “There’s so many sad stories, so you want to do what you can to relieve the burden on the NHS. I’m willing to do anything that’s required.”

read:More than Half a Million Britons Join NHS's Volunteer Coronavirus Corps

To bad there won't be any doctors.

 

[TheSearcher]

To bad there won't be any doctors.

Damn, this is getting out of hand. Nobody said there won't be any doctors. Stop being hyperbolic.

FWIW, as with the article you posted, it's beautiful that people will do this. It really is. I think the point some of us are trying to make is that volunteerism is good and necessary in a pinch, but it isn't viable in the long term. An economic motivation and the associated mechanism will have to be re-established. That's all.

Doctors will volunteer, they certainly are now. But without actual pay, those numbers will dwindle, and it won't take long. So, we have to plan for an economic restart, and soon, BEFORE we get to the point that unpaid volunteers decide to throw up their hands and walk away.

 

[Coulter]

Does he say this because of all the criminals they are going to release to prey on innocent citizens?