COMMUNISM Trump to Declare Insurrection Act on November 4th.

INVAR

INVAR

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dstraito said:
If Trump is elected and executes the Insurrection act, it will be widely condemned by half the population and the media. If the house or senate are controlled by the Dims, the impeachment attempts will begin immediately.
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They will likely begin those regardless who controls the House - which I do not see going GOP. Then there is the fact the Pentagon and the Military brass will refuse to enforce that Act should Trump invoke it.

dstraito said:
The delusion runs great and half the countey wants the vision that collapses.and rebuilds the.nation, the other half believes this was a great nation and is commited to the vision of the founding fathers.

How do you correct a delusion?

How do you heal dysphoria? ... How do you tell a person that the founding fathers were right when they believe everything they created is wrong? Is it even possible? ... Can the two sides ever live in harmony?
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The answer is obvious, the answer is NO. Never again.

Unless the "Right" wants to surrender and live under subjugation (which is possible) for a false promise of peace and bread.

The Left will never live in harmony with anyone but themselves. They would have to be utterly destroyed and their ideology shamed to the point that no one would dare touch it again publicly for generations.

Which is not going happen.
 
Doomer Doug

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I'm not sure why the left thinks the military will join with them below the command level. Granted, you will get the one third obamabots, gangbangers etc that will do their thing. One third, MINIMUM will just go home for the holidays, with or without their guns. One third will hunt down and kill any Marxist they can catch. Trump inspires loyalty and biden, mattis etc do not. Trump will have MILLIONS of armed militia who support him. And when the chinese or UN gets involved, the globalists will enrage the third that went home.
It will be one hell of a ride either way.
 
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Dozdoats

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DOL at Bragg is fenceline to fenceline, bumper to bumper, door handle to door handle with broke down vehicles. Been that way for years.

My folks down there used to say they couldn't get out of their own motor pools. Now they say they can't get out of their own barracks.
 
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intothatgoodnight

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Dozdoats said:
if DJT feels that he's being subverted and calls for the un-organized militia to come to the aid of the legitimate government

Realize that if this happens, there are literally no options left. The die will have been cast.
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Also realize that an "unorganized militia" would face two opposing forces - liberal family, friends with the means to end the life of any "unorganized militia" in opposition to their views, and an insurrectionist and lethally armed U.S. military machine embedded within the military command and control structure. Then, if things really got that jiggy, there could always be a third opposing force possibility under the guise of U.N. "peace keeping" troops, or worse - foreign military assets on CONUS soil - BOTH could/would be aided and abetted by above mentioned liberal misguided family and friends.

Successfully controlling the logistics is what will become the deciding factor - as in EVERY war.


intothegoodnight
 
Mikiekimi

Mikiekimi

I’m just here for the gasoline...
Doomer Doug said:
I'm not sure why the left thinks the military will join with them below the command level. Granted, you will get the one third obamabots, gangbangers etc that will do their thing. One third, MINIMUM will just go home for the holidays, with or without their guns. One third will hunt down and kill any Marxist they can catch. Trump inspires loyalty and biden, mattis etc do not. Trump will have MILLIONS of armed militia who support him. And when the chinese or UN gets involved, the globalists will enrage the third that went home.
It will be one hell of a ride either way.
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As someone who retired within the last decade, most AD military are fairly apolitical (at least while in uniform). I couldn't tell you the political leanings of the last SNCOs or officers I worked with. That's my experience within one branch, over 20 years and a dozen or so locations across the globe...YMMV.

Also, weapons other than those used by MP/SF units are kept in long-term storage. Even weapons of mobilized individuals traveling overseas are tightly controlled. It's not like you just 'get to take your rifle home with you' when you want to. They are stored in armories - even those that are used by MPs/SF going out to post have to be checked out/in and only for daily duties.

In fact, at one time anyone living on-base had to maintain their firearms at the base armory but I think that changed 15 or so years ago.
 
Mikiekimi

Mikiekimi

I’m just here for the gasoline...
intothatgoodnight said:
Also realize that an "unorganized militia" would face two opposing forces - liberal family, friends with the means to end the life of any "unorganized militia" in opposition to their views, and an insurrectionist and lethally armed U.S. military machine embedded within the military command and control structure. Then, if things really got that jiggy, there could always be a third opposing force possibility under the guise of U.N. "peace keeping" troops, or worse - foreign military assets on CONUS soil - BOTH could/would be aided and abetted by above mentioned liberal misguided family and friends.

Successfully controlling the logistics is what will become the deciding factor - as in EVERY war.


intothegoodnight
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Agree, an unorganized militia by it's nature would totally lack an effective command and control structure and would probably have zero logistical support. Not to mention air superiority...just think of the damage one C-130 gunship could do to some podunk militia stronghold...it's downright scary.

I would say though, that it would be nearly impossible for our military to occupy much more than a city or small state with any effectiveness. Too many variables in there besides just the 2A supporters to prevent that from happening.

It does make for interesting fodder for discussion though.
 
CaryC

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Mikiekimi said:
As someone who retired within the last decade, most AD military are fairly apolitical (at least while in uniform). I couldn't tell you the political leanings of the last SNCOs or officers I worked with. That's my experience within one branch, over 20 years and a dozen or so locations across the globe...YMMV.
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Son got out last year. They express their views among themselves, and at that date. Were in full support of Trump.

Mikiekimi said:
Also, weapons other than those used by MP/SF units are kept in long-term storage. Even weapons of mobilized individuals traveling overseas are tightly controlled. It's not like you just 'get to take your rifle home with you' when you want to. They are stored in armories - even those that are used by MPs/SF going out to post have to be checked out/in and only for daily duties.

In fact, at one time anyone living on-base had to maintain their firearms at the base armory but I think that changed 15 or so years ago.
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Not much as changed concerning that. In my time (72-75)all weapons on base had to be in the armory, including personal firearms, unless checked out, and returned.

Son worked in the armory and it is still the same. At least that was it at Hood which we both were at.

Living off post different story, but you had better not try and bringing it on post. Severe world of hurt, if you did. Like: "Get out of the car with your hands up!" With every security guard (no longer MP) with their weapon drawn.
 
Trivium Pursuit

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Mikiekimi said:
Agree, an unorganized militia by it's nature would totally lack an effective command and control structure and would probably have zero logistical support. Not to mention air superiority...just think of the damage one C-130 gunship could do to some podunk militia stronghold...it's downright scary.

I would say though, that it would be nearly impossible for our military to occupy much more than a city or small state with any effectiveness. Too many variables in there besides just the 2A supporters to prevent that from happening.

It does make for interesting fodder for discussion though.
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THIS. Along with "what do the sergeants think?", "Who controls the Spectres and Spooky's?" is on my mind. Oh, and the armed drones...
 
Starrkopf

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Troke said:
Don't forget drones.
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I highly encourage everyone to look at the Armenia vs Azerbaijan war thread to get a very sobering look at what modern drone warfare looks like. It's not pretty at all and J6P has zero countermeasures that would be effective against them.

Even if you had access to armor it wouldn't do much good.
 
To-late

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medic38572 said:
Most important post on this thread! You think because your a Patriot your not going to arrested if your out in the street trying to protect stuff this is going to include everyone!.
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Yes,, remember. Once the military comes in, they usually are reluctant to leave. And mostly dont.
 
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Starrkopf said:
I highly encourage everyone to look at the Armenia vs Azerbaijan war thread to get a very sobering look at what modern drone warfare looks like. It's not pretty at all and J6P has zero countermeasures that would be effective against them.

Even if you had access to armor it wouldn't do much good.
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The "drone situation" is the new variable that needs to be considered. Besides the South Caucuses, current active use by the Cartels are a harbinger of things to come.
 
Starrkopf

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LoupGarou said:
Speaking of Drones, these are in Turkey, so you can imagine what other groups can get their hands on...

KARGU - Autonomous Tactical Multi-Rotor Attack UAV (2:03)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqv9yaPLhEk



Kargu - The Kamikaze Drones Getting Ready For The Swarm Operation (1:54)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d28APIfwSI

Think Flying Claymores
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Yep, just one form of loitering munitions they have both quad copter and fixed wing flying bombs essentially, the new swarm of this variety is being assembled for attacks on radars and I think has equipment for discovering radar signals to home in on them. They also have drones very similar to our predator drone with missiles capable of taking out tanks.

Thanks to modern drone tech it's been a blood bath and a lot of tanks, artillery, SAM sites and pretty much anything you can name has been destroyed with very little risk and expense. and since the drones are so tiny most widely available air defence systems are incapable of effectively targeting them.

Whoever controls the military will win because they can deploy this and more against anyone that decides to be a problem
anyone getting froggy will end up like Soleimani.
 
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155 arty

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CaryC said:
Son got out last year. They express their views among themselves, and at that date. Were in full support of Trump.


Not much as changed concerning that. In my time (72-75)all weapons on base had to be in the armory, including personal firearms, unless checked out, and returned.

Son worked in the armory and it is still the same. At least that was it at Hood which we both were at.

Living off post different story, but you had better not try and bringing it on post. Severe world of hurt, if you did. Like: "Get out of the car with your hands up!" With every security guard (no longer MP) with their weapon drawn.
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Spot on !
 
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intothatgoodnight

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Housecarl said:
The "drone situation" is the new variable that needs to be considered. Besides the South Caucuses, current active use by the Cartels are a harbinger of things to come.
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In all three "flavors."

1) 24/7 look-down recon of oppositional troops/movements, fielded equipments and fortifications/bunkers, logistics chain and operations, and their precise location.

2) barely detectable real-time targeting platforms for use by other stand-off precision munitions.

3) "Flying Claymores," as noted, above, by Loup.

3b) an ability to attack in swarms that are somewhat self-regulating, like a swarm of bees - "chase a target" - also, similar to a flock of birds with their uncanny ability for close formation flight - a group evasiveness/turning-on-a-dime function without running into another drone - hive mind in its navigational ability within a group of drones.

This drone swarming capability was discussed here, on TB2K, several years ago - not new tech - brings an additional operational dimension into the battlespace.


intothegoodnight
 
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Walrus Whisperer

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My neighbor told me that a prophet said that there will be TWO attempts on my beloved Presidents life after the election. I pray it not be so!
 
paul bunyan

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danielboon said:
Then he saw armed protesters, fighting in the streets, people pummeling each other, businesses shutter & shut up, schools close, schoolrooms with cobwebs in them and posters falling off the walls, bank buildings with the roofs being taken off and money flying through the roofs as if being sucked up by a vacuum cleaner, politicians in back rooms making deals smiling & smirking, Washington D.C burning, fires everywhere, people being rounded up, Chinese & Russian soldiers on U.S. soil, the Russian soldiers were telling the Chinese soldiers to go pick up certain people & secure this area, blue helmets of the U.N., military things taking place, no sign of President Trump, no sign of leadership in Washington D.C., the vultures were now like *gargoyles and were 10-15 feet off the ground and attacking people mercilessly, people hiding in their homes and garages, churches & homes being burned…absolute chaos. The fist punch on the November 2020 calendar is what got his attention then he heard the words again, “Brace Yourself, Brace Yourself, Brace Yourself”. {dana coverstone} *gargoyles (drones)
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Source please.
 
Raggedyman

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as I sit here and watch these interesting discussions go back and forth I'm going to repeat what I said previously . . . when it goes live everybody will be off the porch and in the street - like it or not.
 
jed turtle

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Mikiekimi said:
What on earth are you talking about? Troops mobilized? I’m retired mil...my son in law and sisters in law are still active. Multiple branches. My brother in law is a contractor...there has been no such mobilization that I’m aware of. Unless the term ‘mobilization’ is being used VERY loosely.

And who in the military command has been taken out?

...time for some deep breathing exercises...
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I did this screen shot October 7, 2019...A60CD36F-CBA0-4D0C-BFD6-12150732F4C9.jpeg
 
Doomer Doug

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Gee, I did a search and the senior Coast Guard officer tested positive and ALL senior officers are now in quarantine.
This was on October 2nd.
On June 1st, FIVE MONTHS AGO, Trump mobilized the military for all kinds of potentional duties in the future.
 
Doomer Doug

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Less than 7 days now. The Democrats are getting very DESPERATE and will hold nothing back now. FALSE FLAG IS POSSIBLE ANYTIME. Obamabot in Michigan, sucking for Biden, oh yeah Trump is going to massacre them
 
Seeker22

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It is now November 5th. Trump was supposed to declare the Insurrection Act yesterday. If he did, I must have missed it somewhere. If not, it's not as if this can get any worse. Pop that puppy off and let the heads roll.
 
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Dozdoats

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weapons other than those used by MP/SF units are kept in long-term storage. Even weapons of mobilized individuals traveling overseas are tightly controlled.

I can't speak to now, but way back when, arms rooms were inventoried 100%, serial number by serial number, twice a day.

I think stuff is bar coded these days :D
 
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