ALERT TRUMP THROWING DOWN ON DEMS. MAY DECLARE STATE OF EMERGENCY TO FUND BORDER WALL

Doomer Doug

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Gang, if this actually happens, well it will be the end of life as we know it here in CONUS. Seriously, the fecal material will truly hit the rotating blade if Trump has the stones to call the Marxist Democrat bluff. The fact that ABC, a fake news site to be sure is even MENTIONING A POTENTIAL STATE OF EMERGENCY is a huge dot in my view. ABC is either trying to instill hysteria, which is possible, or is preparing people for some serious level of crazy happening.

the link is here.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...onal-emergency-to-secure-border-wall-funding/

BREAKING: Trump Considering Declaring National Emergency to Secure Border Wall Funding
Cristina Laila by Cristina Laila January 4, 2019 511 Comments

President Trump is considering declaring a national emergency to redirect funds from the Department of Defense and elsewhere to fund the border wall.
Via ABC News:

Sources tell ABC News the discussions are still on the “working level” adding that there’s a range of legal mechanisms that are being considered before such a decision is announced.


Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) emerged from a meeting with the President Friday and said Trump threatened to keep the government shut down for a long period of time — months or even years

The Democrats are refusing to fund the border wall.

In a presser at the Rose Garden, President Trump confirmed he told Schumer during their meeting over the government shutdown that it could go on for months or even years.

The President revealed that he had considered declaring a national emergency to secure border wall funding and said, “I still might.”

The Trump administration will continue to hold meetings Friday and into the weekend to discuss the next steps going forward although it is unclear who would be a part of the ongoing meetings.

President Trump also told reporters Friday that he had a “very, very good meeting” with top Democrats and other Congressional leaders.

House Democrats passed a bill to reopen the government late Thursday night — of course this was just more showboating from the obstructionists because Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell repeatedly stated he would not bring a vote on a Democrat bill that the President won’t sign.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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If he does declare, a marxist judge will immediately void the declaration, requiring it go before the SC.
 

Doomer Doug

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Coup de etat, or Counter Coup/Revolution?

My view is Trump has now backed himself into a corner on the wall. TRUMP HAS TO WIN ON THIS; HE HAS TO BUILD THE WALL, NO MATTER EXACTLY HOW HE DOES IT. IF TRUMP DOESN'T NOW BUILD THE WALL, HE IS FINISHED AS POTUS. I THINK TRUMP HAS FINALLY, AND WHY THIS TOOK SO LONG AMAZES ME, FIGURED OUT THE DEMOCRATS, THE MEDIA, THE NEVER TRUMPERS, AND THE SO CALLED DEEP STATE HATE HIS GUTS AND HE CAN'T MAKE ANY COMPROMISE WITH THEM. TRUMP FINALLY GETS THAT NOW, SO HE WILL GO SCORCHED EARTH AND PLAY TO HIS BASE.

When Trump does that he will WIN, WIN, WIN. The coup against Trump has been going on over two years now. This is/may be Trump's counter coup move and effort to crush the Democrats and force them to the table. We shall see.

And yeah, the leftists are going to go Hitler seizing power mode if Trump really does declare a state of border emergency and deal with the wall that way.

The military, everybody below the Colonels will fully support Trump now. Further, Trump has made, and I hope people picked up on what he actually said, and actually meant, certain comments related to what the 2nd Amendment, and the Armed militias will do, if he is taken out. Trump said, and he may figure he can both the lower to mid ranks of the military to fight for him, LITERALLY, AS WELL AS THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF ARMED MILITIA WHO ARE NOW ENRAGED AT WHAT A DEMOCRAT HOUSE WILL DO ON GUN CONTROL.

You all do realize Doomer Doug said waaaaaay back when Trump was first running and elected that one result of all this would be a Second American Civil War to finally restore the American Republic and take down the corrupt oligarchy. This is also the reason Mattis got the axe, because he won't support Trump if he declares a state of emergency.

We are truly on the edge here, and I'm saying the left will respond with massive violence when/if Trump does this. Trump may also be forcing the Dems to fund the wall or he will declare a state of emergency, which will give him a free hand to do stuff, like Lincoln did, arresting TRAITORS IN THE SENATE AND HOUSE. Yep, perp walks for Maxine Walters, Peolosi etc all.:D
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
total fake news again >>>> I watched every minute of the Rose Garden press conference - and the ONLY thing Prez Trump said about using the presidential emergency powers was in answering a question about the emergency powers >>>> he said it was totally within his powers but the current negotiated budget settlement is what is desired ...
 

Dozdoats

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Bottom line no matter who said what when, is that it is now either CRUSH or BE CRUSHED.

Choose ...
 

Doomer Doug

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Sorry, but it is listed on multiple other web sites. I have found it on ABC news, Briebart and The Gateway Pundit.

Another link is here.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ing-a-state-of-emergency-to-fund-border-wall/

Donald Trump Open to Declaring a State of Emergency to Fund Border Wall

President Donald Trump said he was willing to declare a state of emergency on Friday, in order to build a wall on the Southern border.

“Absolutely, we can call a national emergency,” Trump said when asked about the idea by a reporter. “I haven’t done it. I may do it. I may do it.”

The president spoke to reporters in the Rose Garden on Friday at the White House after meeting with Congressional leaders for more than two hours to try to make a deal.

The president is allowed by law to issue a declaration of emergency to quickly move federal funds to a specific area based on his discretion. The state of emergency declaration is frequently used ahead of a hurricane or other national disaster.
 

Bubble Head

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I wouldn't dismiss State of Emergency as the War of the Americas heats up. President Trump knows far more of what is coming from the south and is preparing to roll out barriers. The Venezuela Commie situation will soon come to a head. Brazil and Columbia have had enough and will move on Venezuela. China, Russia and Nicaragua could intervene on behalf of Venezuela. We would back Columbia and Brazil via supplies and medical aid. Heck the whole thing is so volital in that neighborhood that Argentina might even get bold and make another try at the Falklands. We need the wall now and President Trump knows it. Chuck can go suck his thumb finding a happy place. Nancy Pee can increase her mind meds but in the end the War of the Americas in coming.
 

nadhob

Veteran Member
He seems to be addicted to that "High Road"......

It's now or never....He said that clearly when he signed that omnibus bill in the spring, warning all he ain't doing it again. Good for him....good for the country. After Friday's jobs report showing this economy continues to roll, he's got some political capital to spend. By declaring a " border emergency" I suspect he' all have the ability to stop all commerce if he so chooses. That should get the swamp a little agitated, maybe put some more pressure for the Dem's to come to their senses.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
put some more pressure for the Dem's to come to their senses.

Problem is, the Dems have no senses to come to ...
 

Doomer Doug

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HERE IS A LINK TO THE VIDEO WHERE TRUMP TALKS ABOUT DECLARING A STATE OF EMERGENCY TO FUND THE BORDER WALL.

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-c...secure-wall-funding-sources/story?id=60164759

Trump considering declaring national emergency in an effort to secure wall funding
Sources tell ABC News the discussions are still on the "working level."

By Katherine Faulders, John Santucci and Elizabeth McLaughlinJan 5, 2019 3:54 AM ET

President Donald Trump said Frday he is considering declaring a national emergency to help pay for his long-desired border wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

The president, when asked by ABC News' senior national correspondent Terry Moran during a press conference, acknowledged that he would consider declaring a national emergency to help get funds to build the wall "for the security of our country."


Trump did not elaborate on the details of such a process.

Earlier Friday, multiple sources familiar with the ongoing discussion told ABC News that options could include reprogramming funds from the Department of Defense and elsewhere -- a move which would circumvent Congress.

Sources tell ABC News the discussions are still on the "working level" adding that there's a range of legal mechanisms that are being considered before such a decision is announced.

The discussions have intensified as the president is now 14 days into a partial government shutdown, facing newly empowered House Democrats who are refusing to budge issue of wall funding. "We are not doing a wall," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday, calling the proposed structure an "immorality."
 

hiwall

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If he did that Congress could stop the order (but unlikely).
I hope he does it!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Doomer Doug

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Good Trump/Bad Trump!

Yeah, it is hard to negotiate with a group that hates your guts like the Democrats hate Trump. This also "may" be a case of good cop/bad cop by Trump. Trump may be setting out a negotiation where he says if you don't fund my border wall like this, I will fund it like that, ie declare a state of emergency which gives me a broad range of authority to do whatever I want to relating to getting control of the border.

At that point, the Marxist Democrats will be faced with a bad/worse situation. Of course, now that "new" Democrat party has locked into a Socialist/marxist mindset they are UNABLE to negotiate with Trump. After all it really isn't negotiation when Trump says fund the wall or else, and the Marxist Democrats respond with "impeach the "mother$%^^^^." I'm not seeing much room for compromise there.:D
 

sunny225

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I truly wish he would stop running his mouth and JUST DO IT!!
Declaring a national emergency is within his authority and the situation at the border is definitely an emergency.
 

ShyGirl

Veteran Member
I really believe that he has been waiting for the right time. He couldn't do it before because of Muller and the rest of the crap that has been thrown at him but now that nothing has come of all this he can stand his ground and do what needs to be done. Nancy can pee her pants and Shitmer can flap his jaws but they have nothing left to throw at Trump. He let the lies run their course and now he has the perfect time to do what he needs to do. He also has justification with the caravans attacking our southern border.
 

Sooth

Veteran Member
This is also a good time to add the Presidential and Vice Presidential Secret Service details and President Trump’s private security to your prayers. This is especially important considering that Nancy Pelosi is two heartbeats away from the Oval Office. Let that sink in.

They will go to the most extreme measures if they cannot Impeach him in the House, Convict him in the Senate and remove him from office.

Sooth
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
The wall has mutlple layers. It should incorparate razor wire the the entire legth....so just lay that down as you determine the walls precise location throughout the border. It is a first step that has to be done, might as well knock it out and add troops to make it secure. Then follow up and put up the wall, a highly efficient wall made from local rock with the ability to move within it, undetected.......the enemy would not know your location, and the abillity to move within invisibly would keep the smaller groups out easily. This wall is a piece of cake, and cheap, if done locally and using local resources.....backed up by the full power of the NG.

It could be secured damn near overnight, and reinforced fully in a matter of months....if the will was there. A national emergency makes that possible. Just do it. Lets televise it too.
 

Bubble Head

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This is also a good time to add the Presidential and Vice Presidential Secret Service details and President Trump’s private security to your prayers. This is especially important considering that Nancy Pelosi is two heartbeats away from the Oval Office. Let that sink in.

They will go to the most extreme measures if they cannot Impeach him in the House, Convict him in the Senate and remove him from office.

Sooth

There in lies the truth of the whole matter. This group of Globalist will stop at nothing and kill anyone who gets in their way. End of story.
 

Bubble Head

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Any concrete wall built should have razor wire embedded in the concrete so portions of the razors are sticking out of the concrete. This will discourage attempting to climb or slide down on the US side.
 

Infoscout

The Dude Abides
My suspicion is he will get the wall funded and end the shutdown, the compromise will be comprehensive gun control, he already caved on that with the bump stock ban, and that is an easy win for the swamp.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
I truly wish he would stop running his mouth and JUST DO IT!!
Declaring a national emergency is within his authority and the situation at the border is definitely an emergency.

It's to Trump's benefit the more the Dems "young turks" go nuts and the more frazzled the Dem senior leadership looks, as well as the Rinos painting themselves into their own corners.

Who is the more desperate, the Swamp dwellers or Trump? Well for starters Trump's power isn't build on the mud that the professional political class' power, as well as sense of self, is built upon. We all saw that in the meeting between Pelosi, Schumer, Pence and Trump where they wanted the cameras out of the room and Trump kept them running late last year. It only gets more obvious the longer and deeper this goes.
 
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sunny225

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My suspicion is he will get the wall funded and end the shutdown, the compromise will be comprehensive gun control, he already caved on that with the bump stock ban, and that is an easy win for the swamp.

That suspicion had better not be the end result of this. "Unintended Consequences" would be taking place country wide. And I'd have to say that it should start in DC.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
There in lies the truth of the whole matter. This group of Globalist will stop at nothing and kill anyone who gets in their way. End of story.

And that they've been telegraping that for the last two years reinforces my thoughts on the likelihood of this going kinetic. The other side went "banana republic" rules with the thinking it only applied to their opponents and forgot that those opponents have a vote too.

If this "goes hot" POTUS only needs one judge anywhere within the US to sign warrants "for appearances" sake. And "Gitmo" wouldn't be in play, think in terms of some place like Area 51 or such...
 

hardrock

Veteran Member
This is also a good time to add the Presidential and Vice Presidential Secret Service details and President Trump’s private security to your prayers. This is especially important considering that Nancy Pelosi is two heartbeats away from the Oval Office. Let that sink in.

They will go to the most extreme measures if they cannot Impeach him in the House, Convict him in the Senate and remove him from office.

Sooth

I would run from Nancy, fast, if both Trump and Pence were not 'available.' the only safe place for her might be in that deep bunker we don't know about.
 

Hambone

Contributing Member
It's to Trump's benefit the more the Dems "young turks" go nuts and the more frazzled the Dem senior leadership looks, as well as the Rinos painting themselves into their own corners.

Who is the more desperate, the Swamp dwellers or Trump? Well for starters Trump's power isn't build on the mud that the professional political class' power, as well as sense of self, is built upon. We all saw that in the meeting between Pelosi, Schumer, Pence and Trump where they wanted the cameras out of the room and Trump kept them running late last year. It only gets more obvious the longer and deeper this goes.

I'm fully expecting sometime in the near future another mass shooting to steer the agenda hard left and away from any potential damage from this on going shut down. Especially if they sense that they are losing public opinion (which I believe they are).
 

AlfaMan

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I don't think Nancy will get the door open to the bunker. Arlington house is still being renovated. She wouldn't be welcome anyway-The military does NOT like her. At all.

And I'm holding my breath that Pres Trump calls the socialist rabbles' bluff and calls a national emergency to build the wall. If anyone has the guts to do it, it's our president.

If he does there will be blood ALL OVER the streets of DC But not from a civil war in the streets..nope, it will be from the socialists' heads exploding en masse. NW DC, boom! Adams Morgan...BOOM! Capitol Hill and Petworth neighborhoods...boom boom boom! It would look like the 4th of July!

It won't bother me to wear a poncho when I'm down there working.

I would run from Nancy, fast, if both Trump and Pence were not 'available.' the only safe place for her might be in that deep bunker we don't know about.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
total fake news again >>>> I watched every minute of the Rose Garden press conference - and the ONLY thing Prez Trump said about using the presidential emergency powers was in answering a question about the emergency powers >>>> he said it was totally within his powers but the current negotiated budget settlement is what is desired ...

Well, not fake news. I saw him on TV saying these things.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
It's now or never....He said that clearly when he signed that omnibus bill in the spring, warning all he ain't doing it again. Good for him....good for the country. After Friday's jobs report showing this economy continues to roll, he's got some political capital to spend. By declaring a " border emergency" I suspect he' all have the ability to stop all commerce if he so chooses. That should get the swamp a little agitated, maybe put some more pressure for the Dem's to come to their senses.

I think that he said that he wouldn't do that again because he got quite a bit of flack for funding PP.
 
The wall has mutlple layers. It should incorparate razor wire the the entire legth....so just lay that down as you determine the walls precise location throughout the border. It is a first step that has to be done, might as well knock it out and add troops to make it secure. Then follow up and put up the wall, a highly efficient wall made from local rock with the ability to move within it, undetected.......the enemy would not know your location, and the abillity to move within invisibly would keep the smaller groups out easily. This wall is a piece of cake, and cheap, if done locally and using local resources.....backed up by the full power of the NG.

It could be secured damn near overnight, and reinforced fully in a matter of months....if the will was there. A national emergency makes that possible. Just do it. Lets televise it too.

Nothing of your plan is easy or cheap. Doubt if there is enough local rock to make a difference, and hand masonry work would cost far more than poured concrete. Perhaps you mean local gravel for aggregate. Making it hollow would be an additional expense and complication, you would also need many exit doors to be effective. I think anything we build will need manpower and surveillance to be effective, there are just too many ways to breech an undefended wall.
Why has nobody brought up drug running with drones or catapults? How can you stop that?
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
There is a TESTED sensor suite for the Southwest.

I know the guy who built it, and tested it.

FASCINATING holiday dinner discussions in ref the parent system that has that suite in it.
 
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