INTL Trump says U.S. not necessarily bound by 'one China' policy

[Housecarl]

Well this is going to disturb a few people who wanted the "status quo".....

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-china-idUSKBN1400TY

POLITICS | Sun Dec 11, 2016 | 10:09am EST

Trump says U.S. not necessarily bound by 'one China' policy

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump questioned whether the United States had to be bound by its longstanding position that Taiwan is part of "one China" and brushed aside Beijing's concerns about his decision to accept a phone call from Taiwan's president.

"I fully understand the 'one China policy,' but I don't know why we have to be bound by a 'one China policy' unless we make a deal with China having to do with other things, including trade," Trump said on an interview with Fox News Sunday.

The congratulatory call that Trump accepted from Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen was the first such contact with Taiwan by a U.S. president-elect or president since President Jimmy Carter switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to China in 1979, acknowledging Taiwan as part of "one China."

Taiwan is one of China's most sensitive policy issues, and China generally lambastes any form of official contact by foreign governments with Taiwan's leaders.

In the Fox interview, Trump criticized China over its policies on issues such as currency, the South China Sea and North Korea and said it was not up to Beijing to decide whether he should take a call from Taiwan's leader.

"I don't want China dictating to me and this was a call put into me," Trump said. "It was a very nice call. Short. And why should some other nation be able to say I can't take a call?"

"I think it actually would've been very disrespectful, to be honest with you, not taking it," Trump added.

(Reporting By Caren Bohan; Editing by Phil Berlowitz)

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Trump talks to president of Taiwan. China could get mad.
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[TerryK]

This is so refreshing.
The average man in the street probably knows nothing of the one china policy and would think it strange indeed if the president of the United States was not allowed to even take a phone call from another country because China told him not to.
The concept of such kowtowing is simply beyond the imagination of the average American.

Ahh, it truly is morning in America.

 

[Dozdoats]

The only thing he could have done to upset more people would have been to Tweet that message

 

[Medical Maven]

I read a quote from one of the China papers that said something like they were not going to dragged into any horse-trading. That was after the phone call. Trump will get it done. Or China will go to war. One or the other. Open Borders and our China Policy over the decades have collectively brought this country to the brink of total ruin. And it was by design, both of the policies.

So we are fighting against outright extinction at this point, the extinction of Liberty followed by becoming an outright Commodity Colony for China.

"I fully understand the 'one China policy,' but I don't know why we have to be bound by a 'one China policy' unless we make a deal with China having to do with other things, including trade," Trump said on an interview with Fox News Sunday.

 

[Housecarl]

I read a quote from one of the China papers that said something like they were not going to dragged into any horse-trading. That was after the phone call. Trump will get it done. Or China will go to war. One or the other. Open Borders and our China Policy over the decades have collectively brought this country to the brink of total ruin. And it was by design, both of the policies.

So we are fighting against outright extinction at this point, the extinction of Liberty followed by becoming an outright Commodity Colony for China.

The official Chinese media has also floated the idea/thought that they may need to expand their strategic nuclear forces to match PEOTUS' possible threats to their global position...

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/11/us/politics/trump-taiwan-one-china.html

Trump Suggests Using Bedrock China Policy as Bargaining Chip

By MARK LANDLER
DEC. 11, 2016


WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump, defending his recent phone call with Taiwan’s president, asserted in an interview broadcast Sunday that the United States was not bound by the One China policy, the 44-year diplomatic understanding that underpins America’s relationship with its biggest rival.

Mr. Trump, speaking on Fox News, said he understood the principle of a single China that includes Taiwan, but declared, “I don’t know why we have to be bound by a One China policy unless we make a deal with China having to do with other things, including trade.”

“I mean, look,” he continued, “we’re being hurt very badly by China with devaluation; with taxing us heavy at the borders when we don’t tax them; with building a massive fortress in the middle of the South China Sea, which they shouldn’t be doing; and frankly, with not helping us at all with North Korea.”

Mr. Trump is not the first incoming Republican president to question the One China policy, but his suggestion that it could be used as a chip to correct Chinese behavior sets him apart, several Asia experts said. While Mr. Trump has been praised by some Republicans for taking a new look at China policy, his stance could risk a backlash by Beijing, the analysts said.

Not since 1972, when President Richard M. Nixon and Mao Zedong enshrined the One China principle in the Shanghai Communiqué, has an American president or president-elect so publicly and explicitly questioned the agreement, which resulted in the United States’ ending its diplomatic recognition of Taiwan in 1979.

The Chinese government issued no immediate response to Mr. Trump’s remarks. But the comments are likely to reignite a debate that erupted nine days ago when he took a congratulatory phone call from President Tsai Ing-wen of Taiwan.

At first, Mr. Trump played down the implications of the call, saying he was just being polite. Later, his aides said he was well aware of the diplomatic repercussions of speaking to Taiwan’s leader. Lobbyists for Taiwan, including the law firm of former Senator Bob Dole of Kansas, spent months laying the groundwork for the call.

On Friday, China’s senior foreign policy official, Yang Jiechi, met with Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, whom Mr. Trump has designated as his national security adviser, according to a person told about the meeting. It was not clear what the two men had discussed.

Some Republican foreign policy experts — including John R. Bolton, who is believed to be a front-runner for the post of deputy secretary of state — have praised Mr. Trump for shaking up a decades-old diplomatic agreement.

As a candidate, Ronald Reagan criticized the decision to abrogate recognition of Taiwan; after his election, he invited a delegation from Taiwan to attend his inauguration, antagonizing Beijing.

In 1982, as president, Reagan pushed for the so-called Six Assurances, one of which was a reaffirmation that the United States did not formally recognize Chinese sovereignty over Taiwan. Still, he abided by the terms of the 1979 joint communiqué that established relations between the United States and China.

But Mr. Trump’s suggestion that the policy could be wielded as a chip in a broader negotiation with China has implications not just for Washington’s relationship with Beijing, several experts on Asia said, but also for America’s support for Taiwan.

“By putting One China up for grabs, Trump will suck all the oxygen out of the U.S.-China relationship, and it risks eventually trading away U.S. support for Taiwan for another U.S. interest,” said Evan Medeiros, a former senior director for Asia at the National Security Council.

“There are good reasons why eight presidents since 1972 have relied on the One China policy,” he added. “This is one area where the Trump team would do well to heed the lessons of history instead of bucking them in the uncertain hope of getting something.”

Jeffrey A. Bader, Mr. Medeiros’s predecessor in the Obama administration, said the One China policy had “always been seen as a foundation of the relationship.”

“Now Trump apparently sees it as part of a broader set of new transactions,” he said. “Mixing trade with an issue seen by Beijing as involving sovereignty is likely to produce an angry Chinese backlash and worsen both issues.”

Mr. Trump, however, did not appear worried about inflaming Beijing. He repeated in the Fox News interview many of the criticisms he has made about China, particularly on trade and currency manipulation. He also emphasized what he said was China’s unwillingness to help curb the nuclear ambitions of its neighbor North Korea — an issue that foreign policy experts believe could confront Mr. Trump as the first geopolitical crisis of his presidency.

The president-elect said he would not tolerate having the Chinese government dictate whether he could take a call from the president of Taiwan. He reiterated that he had not placed the call, and described it as “a very short call saying, ‘Congratulations, sir, on the victory.’”

“Why should some other nation be able to say I can’t take a call?” Mr. Trump asked. “I think it actually would’ve been very disrespectful, to be honest with you, not taking it.”

The Chinese government, which once viewed Mr. Trump favorably as an alternative to the hawkish Hillary Clinton, has struggled to respond to Mr. Trump’s unorthodox approach. China’s foreign minister, Wang Yi, initially played down the significance of the phone call, calling it a “petty action by the Taiwan side” that he said would not upset the longstanding policy of One China.

But as Mr. Trump has repeated his campaign criticisms of China — and as his statements about Taiwan have rippled throughout the region — Beijing has noticeably hardened its tone. It warned him last week, in a front-page editorial in the overseas edition of People’s Daily, that “creating troubles for the China-U.S. relationship is creating troubles for the U.S. itself.”

In a pointed rejoinder to Mr. Trump, the editorial said that pushing China on Taiwan “would greatly reduce the chance to achieve the goal of making America great again.”

 

[Richard]

Taiwan has been a separate entity since 1949.......

 

[AlfaMan]

I am THRILLED to see President Trump considering ditching the "One China" policy. Either as a bargaining chip, or supporting freedom over communism-it makes me happy to no end.

We can check the aggressiveness of the ChiComs in the south China sea-put Duarte and the Phillipines back in their (US controlled) box and Taiwan can bask in being a nation among nations, rather than hiding in the shadows of an oppressive regime. Mainland China got their butts kicked during both Quemoy incidents; the ROC has better soldiers and equipment.

The nice thing is that mainland China is this nervous after one phone call-if President Trump were to go to Taiwan, and make a speech regarding freedom for the ROC and Hong Kong (a' la Kennedy's Ich bin ein Berliner speech in 1961) then China would be massively weakened. The umbrella revolution in Hong Kong would explode,
China would lose much of their financial strength and more importantly; lose face in the eyes of the world. We would back the ChiComs into a corner-and an alliance between Russia and the US would finish them off as a govt. should China decide to go to war. (And they would-China has had skirmishes with Russia and India, Vietnam, Cambodia in the past. All would love to see a weakened China.

Win for us, President Trump!