WoT Trump administration debates designating Muslim Brotherhood as terrorist group

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World News | Thu Jan 26, 2017 | 6:06pm EST

Trump administration debates designating Muslim Brotherhood as terrorist group

By Mark Hosenball | WASHINGTON

A debate is under way in the Trump administration about whether the United States should declare the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization and subject it to U.S. sanctions, according to U.S. officials and people close to President Donald Trump's transition team.

A faction led by Michael Flynn, Trump's National Security Advisor, wants to add the Brotherhood to the State Department and U.S. Treasury lists of foreign terrorist organizations, the sources said.

"I know it has been discussed. I'm in favor of it," said a Trump transition advisor, who declined to be named because of the sensitivity of the issue.

The advisor said Flynn's team discussed adding the group to the U.S. list of terrorist groups but said it was ultimately unclear when or even if the administration ultimately would go ahead with such a move.

Other Trump advisors, as well as many veteran national security, diplomatic, law enforcement and intelligence officials argue the Brotherhood has evolved peacefully in some countries, according to officials and people close to Trump's entourage.

They worry that a U.S. move to designate the entire Brotherhood a terrorist group would complicate relations with Turkey, a key American ally in the fight against Islamic State, and where the Islamist-rooted AKP Party that dominates the Turkish government of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is in power. Tunisia's Islamist Ennahda Party has also participated in democratic elections.

The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, the country's oldest Islamist movement, was designated as a terrorist organization in that country in 2013.

It is not clear which faction within the U.S. administration has the upper hand, and Senator Ted Cruz and Representative Mario Diaz-Balart this month introduced legislation to add the Brotherhood to the terrorist list.

There was no immediate comment from the White House.

MIXED RECORD

Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates among others have designated the group on their terrorist lists, and Trump's nominee for Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, described the Brotherhood an "an agent of radical Islam", during his Senate confirmation hearing.

U.S. criminal law prohibits people in the United States from knowingly providing "material support" to designated terrorist organizations, and members of such groups are banned from entering the United States.Some conservative and anti-Muslim activists have argued for years that the Brotherhood, which was founded in Egypt in 1928 and sought to establish a worldwide Islamic caliphate by peaceful means, has been a breeding ground for terrorists.

Some branches of the Brotherhood, including the Palestinian group Hamas, have engaged in anti-government violence and provoked violent government reactions. Ayman al-Zawahiri, the leader of al-Qaeda, was once a member of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood.

Other offshoots in Turkey and Tunisia have forsworn violence and come to power by democratic means.*Muslim Brotherhood President Mohammed Mursi became Egypt's first freely elected president in June 2012 in the aftermath of the ousting of long-time ruler Hosni Mubarak. An army takeover stripped Mursi of power in 2013 following mass protests against his rule. Hundreds of Islamists have since been killed and arrested.

Sisi and Trump spoke by phone this week and the two leaders discussed ways to boost the fight against terrorism and extremism.

A U.S. official who declined to be identified told Reuters there had been discussions at the State Department which looked at intelligence and information on the group in which it was thought "it would be difficult to justify legally, in terms of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, to meet the criteria".

"It's one thing to say one group's ideology has been used to influence a terrorist organization and another thing to say that this group is a terrorist organization," said the U.S. official.

Following the Sept. 11, 2001, al Qaeda attacks on the United States, the George W. Bush administration launched investigations into the Brotherhood and related Islamist movements.

After years of investigations, however, the U.S. and other governments, including Switzerland's, closed investigations of the Brotherhood leaders and financial group for lack of evidence, and removed most of the leaders from sanctions lists.

A British government review into Egypt's outlawed Muslim Brotherhood published in December 2015 concluded that membership of or links to the political group should be considered a possible indicator of extremism but stopped short of recommending that it should be banned.

(Additional reporting and writing by Yara Bayoumy; Editing by John Walcott and James Dalgleish)
 

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Satanta

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I'm wondering what the religious makeup is of the MB and the countries they have "Peacefully" come into power in?
Not hard to be peaceful when everyone else agrees with you.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
There should be no debating it.

Just do it!

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Housecarl

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Part two of this would need to be a hard look at Saudi and Gulf funding and sending imans to mosques in the US.
 

bw

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What a breath of fresh air, about time we had a leader that didn't bow to them and kiss their ass

I doubt you're going to see Trump bowing a whole bunch. Actually it would be instructive to have some side-by-side pictures of the Groveller-in-Chief meeting muzzies and Trump meeting muzzies.
 

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Chance

Veteran Member
Do it - shouldn't even have to think about it.

The UK declared it a terrorist organization.

Even Egypt and Saudi Arabia declared it a terrorist organization, for pete's sake.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
No bout adoubt it!!! Of COURSE they are terrorists...no dispute on that one. It is the "subject them to sanctions" part that will be a problem...
 

Millwright

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I'm fairly certain that it has already been decided.

This was "leaked", for some reason.

Maybe just to get 'splodey heads now and when they announce it as an official position...twofer.
 

Be Well

may all be well
I'm fairly certain that it has already been decided.

This was "leaked", for some reason.

Maybe just to get 'splodey heads now and when they announce it as an official position...twofer.

I am sure you are correct. Next week it will be found after investigating that yes indeed, the MB is a terrorist organization.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Do it! And CAIR should be next.

And a bunch more orgs in the US that advocate Sharia law, world wide Caliphate and all the rest.

What Be Well said.

Any group with proven ties to the Brotherhood should then be shut down from operating within our borders. This would include Council on American Islamic Relations ( CAIR, who are consultants to many law enforcement agencies, the military, and Hollywood ), Muslim Student's Association ( MSA with over 200 chapters on every major college campus in the U.S. ), Islamic Society of North America ( ISNA who choose imams for the military and prison system and are the number one certifier of halal foods in America ), IIIT ( International Institute of Islamic Thought, basically the Islamic Bank of America who hold the deeds to approximately 80% of American mosques ) and Hamas themselves ( who, in their charter, admit that they are the Palestinian branch of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood ).

They ALL need to go!
 
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