WEATHER Tropical Weather Time. Things are picking up in the Atlantic. 9/21/22 Hurricane Ian.


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Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 PM EDT Sun May 22 2022

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. North Central Gulf of Mexico:
An area of low pressure is located over the north-central Gulf of
Mexico about 150 miles south of Pensacola, Florida. This system is
producing disorganized thunderstorms and gusty winds across portions
of the Florida Panhandle, southern Alabama, and over the central and
northern Gulf of Mexico. Surface pressures remain high, and strong
upper-level winds should prevent significant development before this
system moves inland over the central Gulf Coast later tonight or on
Monday. Regardless of development, heavy rainfall and gusty winds
are expected to continue across portions of the central Gulf Coast
and will spread across the southeast U.S. during the next day or so.
Additional information on the rainfall and flooding potential can be
found in products issued by your local National Weather Service
Forecast Office and Excessive Rainfall Outlooks issued by the
Weather Prediction Center.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...10 percent.

Forecaster Cangialosi
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Just found this on FB:

(The Conversation) – The Atlantic hurricane season starts on June 1, and the Gulf of Mexico is already warmer than average. Even more worrying is a current of warm tropical water that is looping unusually far into the Gulf for this time of year, with the power to turn tropical storms into monster hurricanes.
It’s called the Loop Current, and it’s the 800-pound gorilla of Gulf hurricane risks.
When the Loop Current reaches this far north this early in the hurricane season – especially during what’s forecast to be a busy season – it can spell disaster for folks along the Northern Gulf Coast, from Texas to Florida.
If you look at temperature maps of the Gulf of Mexico, you can easily spot the Loop Current. It curls up through the Yucatan Channel between Mexico and Cuba, into the Gulf of Mexico, and then swings back out through the Florida Strait south of Florida as the Florida Current, where it becomes the main contributor to the Gulf Stream.
An image of the Gulf of Mexico showing how deep heat reaches.
The Loop Current was about as far north as Tampa, Florida, in mid May 2022. The scale, in meters, shows the maximum depth at which temperatures were 78 F (26 C) or greater. Nick Shay/University of Miami, CC BY-ND
When a tropical storm passes over the Loop Current or one of its giant eddies – large rotating pools of warm water that spin off from the current – the storm can explode in strength as it draws energy from the warm water.
This year, the Loop Current looks remarkably similar to the way it did in 2005, the year Hurricane Katrina crossed the Loop Current before devastating New Orleans. Of the 27 named storms that year, seven became major hurricanes. Wilma and Rita also crossed the Loop Current that year and became two of the most intense Atlantic hurricanes on record.
An image of the Gulf of Mexico showing how deep heat reaches in 2005, with a clear loop from west of Cuba up toward Louisiana.
The Loop Current in May 2005 looked strikingly similar to May 2022. Nick Shay/University of Miami, CC BY-ND
I have been monitoring ocean heat content for more than 30 years as a marine scientist. The conditions I’m seeing in the Gulf in May 2022 are cause for concern. One prominent forecast anticipates 19 tropical storms – 32% more than average – and nine hurricanes. The Loop Current has the potential to supercharge some of those storms.
Why the Loop Current worries forecasters
Warm ocean water doesn’t necessarily mean more tropical storms. But once tropical storms reach waters that are around 78 F (26 C) or warmer, they can strengthen into hurricanes.
Hurricanes draw most of their strength from the top 100 feet (30 meters) of the ocean. Normally, these upper ocean waters mix, allowing warm spots to cool quickly. But the Loop Current’s subtropical water is deeper and warmer, and also saltier, than Gulf common water. These effects inhibit ocean mixing and sea surface cooling, allowing the warm current and its eddies to retain heat to great depths.
In mid-May 2022, satellite data showed the Loop Current had water temperatures 78 F or warmer down to about 330 feet (100 meters). By summer, that heat could extend down to around 500 feet (about 150 meters).
The eddy that fueled Hurricane Ida in 2021 was over 86 F (30 C) at the surface and had heat down to about 590 feet (180 meters). With favorable atmospheric conditions, this deep reservoir of heat helped the storm explode almost overnight into a very powerful and dangerous Category 4 hurricane.
Map of path of Hurricane Ida showing its central pressure and hurricane strength at each point and the depth of ocean heat capable of fueling a hurricane.
Hurricane Ida’s pressure dropped quickly as it crossed a warm, deep eddy boundary on Aug. 29, 2021. Nick Shay/University of Miami, CC BY-ND
Within a storm, warm ocean water can create towering plumes of rising warm, moist air, providing high-octane fuel for hurricanes. Think about what happens when you boil a large pot of spaghetti on the stove and how the steam rises as the water gets hotter. As more moisture and heat rise within a hurricane, the pressure drops. The horizontal pressure difference from the center of the storm to its periphery subsequently causes the wind to speed up and the hurricane to become increasingly dangerous.
Since the Loop Current and its eddies have so much heat, they don’t significantly cool, and the pressure will continue to fall. In 2005, Hurricane Wilma had the lowest central pressure on record in the Atlantic, and Rita and Katrina weren’t far behind.
La Niña, wind shear and other drivers of a busy season
Forecasters have other clues to how the hurricane season might shape up. One is La Niña, the climate opposite of El Niño.
During La Niña, stronger trade winds in the Pacific Ocean bring colder water to the surface, creating conditions that help push the jet stream farther north. That tends to exacerbate drought in the southern U.S. and also weaken wind shear there. Wind shear involves the change in wind speeds and wind directions with height. Too much wind shear can tear tropical storms apart. But less wind shear, courtesy of La Niña, and more moisture in the atmosphere can mean more hurricanes.How La Niña affects U.S.
La Niña has been unusually strong in spring 2022, though it’s possible that it could weaken later in the year, allowing more wind shear toward the end of the season. For now, the upper atmosphere is doing little that would stop a hurricane from intensifying.
It’s too soon to tell what will happen with the steering winds that guide tropical storms and affect where they go. Even before then, the conditions over West Africa are crucial to whether tropical storms form at all in the Atlantic. Dust from the Sahara and low humidity can both reduce the likelihood storms will form.
Climate change has a role
As global temperatures rise, the ocean’s temperature is increasing. Much of the heat trapped by greenhouse gases that are released by human activities is stored in the oceans, where it can provide additional fuel for hurricanes.

Studies suggest that the Atlantic is likely to see more storms intensify into major hurricanes as those temperatures rise, though there won’t necessarily be more storms overall. A study examined the 2020 hurricane season – which had a record 30 named storms, 12 of them hitting the U.S. – and found the storms produced more rain than they would have in a world without the effects of human-caused climate change.
Another trend we have been noticing is that the Loop Current’s warm eddies have more heat than we saw 10 to 15 years ago. Whether that’s related to global warming isn’t clear yet, but the impact of a warming trend could be devastating.


Neither here nor there.

RT 10:25 - Mr. Weatherman

A new tropical storm is likely to form for parts of the Caribbean. This strong tropical disturbance is moving into the Eastern Caribbean. It will then develop as it heads toward Jamaica and the Cayman Islands. Meanwhile, Hurricane Fiona continues to bring hurricane conditions to the Turks & Caicos.


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That same old late September hurricane pattern. Typically its the northern gulf that's affected this time of the year. I don't see anything different this time. No systems coming in from the north to deflect it or to push it toward Texas.

Absent something weird it looks like a strong storm hitting somewhere from the Lousiana/Tx line to the big bend of Florida sometime late next week / weekend


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If it hits at the Louisiana/ Texas border, it'll be close to the anniversary of Hurricane Rita hitting here. A month after Katrina hit New Orleans.


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If it hits at the Louisiana/ Texas border, it'll be close to the anniversary of Hurricane Rita hitting here. A month after Katrina hit New Orleans.
I certainly remember that well, although I did not live here then. Although we did evacuate here in this area for katrina. People around here were freaking out about Rita, my ex and I were going ho hum.


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Got my ass ing
I certainly remember that well, although I did not live here then. Although we did evacuate here in this area for katrina. People around here were freaking out about Rita, my ex and I were going ho hum.
Got my ass in gear prepping watching people in New Orleans stuck on an overpass with nothing. 2005.


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We are winding up a vacation at Cape Hatteras this week, the surf from fiona is building but so far manageable. Rip current warnings and coastal flood advisories posted. Just passed high tide in Buxton as I write this and so far the beach is holding. Next high tide is around 6pm this evening. The swells ARE larger, with more heft to them. It could make for an interesting Saturday departure from here.


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I have a friend who lives up that way…she just messaged me, actually.
They’re almost finished with preparations for it to hit; she’s not in the direct line of fire, but close enough to expect some issues.

She’ll keep me updated but if I don’t hear from her on Saturday, assume they’ve lost power.

She’s got their generator, propane heater, wood stove, etc ready to go.

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Folks, I'm going to try to keep a weather eye on this thread...
If I get distracted by life or..... please drop me a PM if the spaghetti worm tracks stand up and say West Central TX., west of the Metroplex (Like Crazy Water Mineral Wells) as a target. I might have to hasten down there and retrieve my camper if I can convince it to start and run the distance...

Thank y'all kindly....