Too Hot to Garden

HoofTrimmer

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I don't know how it is in other locations but here it's hot. It starts out hot because it doesn't cool off in the evenings now. So putting off chores until the sun goes down or has just come up doesn't work.

I've just let the garden go now. Except for gathering what is left to eat, the weeds are winning again.

I hate getting soaked through with sweat, and it starts the moement you leave the a/c. What in the world did the early settlers do?

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summerthyme

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What in the world did the early settlers do?

For starters, they sweated because it beat starving all winter! Yes, they were tough folks- the ones who survived.

They also used the time honored tradition of the siesta- got up VERY early in the morning and worked before the sun was up. There's usually a good hour of "early dawn" light where you can see well enough for most chores, but the heat isn't building up yet.

Then they'd do their morning animal and livestock chores, and do what they could during the hottest part of the day- often napping (to make up for the very early rising) for an hour or two after dinner.

When the hottest sun started passing, they'd start working again.

Of course, some jobs, like putting in hay, simply had to be done, heat or not. Folks who really couldn't handle it moved someplace else.:lol:

But I'd like to see SOME heat. It's been in the low forties, and even down to the thirties nearly every night for the past 2 weeks. We've only had 2 days so far that got above 80 degrees, and it's been hell trying to get the hay dry enough to bale. It is wonderful weather for the pastures, and the cows love it. And I'm surprised and gratified to see that my garden is growing very well despite the lack of heat. Even the heat lovers- tomatoes and melon plants- are growing like crazy. I'm not sure how well they'll fruit if we don't get some warmth, though.

There is a reason why folks in California and other hot spots build out of adobe and brick and even sod.... without AC, anything that blocked the heat of the sun and helped hold the "cool" in was valuable. Our stick built houses, even with insulation, are very poor substitutes.

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rb.

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I'd definitely take some of that heat! We had frost last night, believe it or not! It's been so wet and cool here that many plants in my flower gardens are mildewing. Lovely whitle delphinium flowers opening up blackened. Yuck. At least the veggie garden is doing ok, peas are loving it, so are the lettuces. Not doing much for the maters and peeeeepers though. Maybe we had our summer in May?:shr:
 

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
It has cooled off a little the past couple of days here in Alabama with all the rain.

Two days ago, it was 94 degrees and really humid. I worked for about two hours between 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm and got tired really quick. So I decided to go inside and cool for a bit. After about 10 minutes of sitting in front of the air and chugging some water, I decided to head back out into the heat again. After about 5 minutes my legs started giving out. I quickly went back inside and sat back in the air again. I had been sweating heavily the whole time and my clothes were drenched, so my body's cooling mechanism should be working properly. Then the cold air from the air conditioner seemed to hurt because it was so cold and my scalp started tingling. It was then I realized I was too hot and it scared me a little. So I called it quits for the day and layed down on the bed for a while. Whew! I'm not going through that again.

Wake up call for a 39 year old that did this all day long as a teenager.
 

wasabell

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When I moved here (Houston area) I had to rethink things.

Instead of taking 2 months off in the winter from gardening, I shut things down in Aug-Sept (sometimes Jul-Aug) Its either too darn hot and dry to grow anything, or something tropical makes it too darn wet.
 

wasabell

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Sorry,

Forgot to say....Rethink your day, if possible. I get up at 4 a.m. and used to hit the garden at daybreak. 2-4 pm is the hottest part of the day.
 

HoofTrimmer

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rhughe13: that is exactly what I am talking about.

Got out and dug potatoes yesterday evening. Drenched my clothes. This was about seven in the evening. It was too much. Plus it was a "cool" evening.

Perhaps you are right, maybe I must make consessions for age. Bummer.

Since it is overcast today perhaps I'll try to run the tiller through the harvested areas.

Get up at 4 am? Not even when I am milking!!!! But honestly, if we were in survival mode I would. Because you have to find ways to beat the heat here.

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Para36

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In spite of the cool weather here the last two weeks my tomato plants are growing very rapidly with many blossoms and some small fruits. This even without seeing many pollinators around. With all the rain , the rest of the garden is superb.

HoofTrimmer, not sure if the early settlers did this but I remember our root cellar at my earlier farm as being a delightul place to visit on those really hot days. I believe that in early days most farms and even houses had a root cellar. I hope to build one here this year.
 

HoofTrimmer

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Para36: I pine for a root cellar. I don't know if it would be very cool or not. Plus with our sandy soil and high water table construction would be delicate.

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Para36

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HoofTrimmer , it certainly is more challenging with a high water table but perhaps not impossible if you limited head room and were able to get a good covering over the roof and LOTS of fill around the sides. It would be interesting to see if there are any others in your area and what their experience has been.
Where I am we have between 5 and 10 feet of glacial till over bed rock. One side of the lower floor to our house actually empties out onto the bed rock. I plan to build on the bedrock and backfill , with a walk in insulated door to the cellar from the bedrock level.

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rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
HoofTrimmer said:
Para36: I pine for a root cellar. I don't know if it would be very cool or not. Plus with our sandy soil and high water table construction would be delicate.

HoofTrimmer

Same problem here with a high water table. I have been thinking of burying a steel 10x20 shipping container for a root cellar. I would put it on a slope and possibly build a small shed over the top of it for access. Containers run about $1,000.
 

HoofTrimmer

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Been thinking of a contaner too. Found out that a Refer or refridgerated ones are more durable. What would keep it from floating up?

HoofTrimmer
 
Normally this time of year it'd be getting very warm and humid but we've also had unusual weather in the midwest, from flooding in areas (after drought for 3 years), cooler weather mixed in with the warmer days, and our raspberries are earlier than I've ever seen them. Normally I'm out picking them in the hottest, most humid weather (the type where you feel like you'll die from the heat & humidity), but we've had a cool down and I've been picking in weather that's in the 70's! What a blessing.

Our gardens were doing really well but some of us are having a problem with a fungus (too much rain) and the weeds are trying to take over.

Rhughe13, that's the hottest time of the day to be out in the heat, so if it's at all possible, don't be in the sun during those times if it's a hot day. What you experienced is what I've often experienced while picking berries. I have a lot of territory to cover so I take my vehicle or rider mower and always take a jug of ice water with me. On the hottest days, I take a wet hand towel and have been known to pour water over my head and shirt just to cool down. You'll find a wet towel around your neck helps keep you cooler.

Some of you talked about a shipping container for a root cellar. Can you provide us with a url so we could see one? I've been wanting to dig a root cellar for a few years now to store our food stuff in. If I do, I'd like it to be big enough to act as a shelter too. I know some people have used large culverts. I'd probably dig down as far as possible, then cover it with earth and sod and build some type of protection around the opening, so nothing could block the opening (like downed trees from storms, etc.).
 

nchomemaker

Veteran Member
I was going to start a thread on the discovery of how wonderful a dew rag or is it do rag is. I have started wearing a bandana around my head if I have garden or other chores that need to be done when it's really hot.
Yes I look like a gypsy or whatever, but I hate it when the sweat coming down my forhead gets in my eyes and hurts so bad. And I hate stopping every few minutes to wipe my head with a cloth.
So now what I do when it's hot is just wrap a bandana around and tie it in the back of my head. It covers my whole head which protects from the sun rays and it catches the sweat from running in my eyes.
Maybe I will still start another thread about this because there are probably other hints that some of us have like above with the ice water and the wet rag on the back of the neck.
Some things just have to be done outside even when it's hot like bean picking because picking while the dew or rain is on them is not an option.:)
 

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
Thanks for the tips on keeping cool. I've gotta try and do a better job of taking breaks during hot times. I get busy and forget how long I've been working.

As for shipping containers, I have a couple of links. Also e-bay usually has several if you search on "Shipping Containers." I think the best way to keep a container from floating after buryial, is to put down a rather thick layer of gravel with some drainage pipes. Then a layer of heavy mil plastic as a moisture barrier. I have something in my computer about burying these things and I'll have to look it up.

http://www.containermarketing.com/
http://www.onsitestorage.com/
 

gonefishin

Contributing Member
Too Hot

Just a few days ago I decided to throw caution to the wind and go at those weeds.. I never should have done it. You should see the sunburn I have. Just staying out in the sun for 10 minutes is ridiculous when it's so hot. I try to always do yard work/garden work early in the a.m or late evening.

Think I learned my lesson:(
 

marsh

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I also recall someone in the distant past talking about using a new septic tank for a root celler or bomb shelter.
 

Flagwaver

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What Summerthyme said is true. I visited an old historic farmstead place where they told us how people did things long ago. They would get up the crack of dawn and get as much work done as they could. Their biggest meal was always breakfast because that was the coolest time for mama to be standing over the cookstove. Lunch and afternoon dinner were smaller meals, leftovers.

They had put their garden on the base of a fairly steep slope though and that confuses me. I wished I had asked them about that. Seems the rain would pour off that hill and wash their garden right out.

They had a spring house which felt really cool and nice inside. They would keep things cool in the water in that stone building. They had a root cellar, but it had caved in long ago so all we saw was a depression in the earth where it once was.
 
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